So, what you playing at the mo? Retro Edition

Retr0gamer · 04-07-2018 9:12am

Thought the motion controls worked great in that game for the most part. Flying the bird was atrocious though.

The main issue with Skyward sword is that it just isn't a good game. Its way too linear. Everything plays out like it's a dungeon and there's no down time.

Mr.Saturn · 04-07-2018 7:13pm

Retr0gamer wrote: »

The main issue with Skyward sword is that it just isn't a good game. Its way too linear. Everything plays out like it's a dungeon and there's no down time.

Not to mention the 6 millions year long tutorial that seems to think it's the first video game to have ever existed and you need to be led by the nose the whole way. Christ, the tedium. It's bizarre that SS and BotW are even part of the same series made by the same people.

Burzum · 05-07-2018 11:43pm

Not retro but am just about to start Valkyria Chronicles Remastered am looking forward to it.

o1s1n · 06-07-2018 1:58pm

Started Persona 4 again last night. It's one of those games I've tried to play through a few times but end up not finishing it.

Don't know why as it's absolutely great! Going to see if I can get another 3-4 hours in this evening.

Retr0gamer · 06-07-2018 2:41pm

o1s1n wrote: »

Started Persona 4 again last night. It's one of those games I've tried to play through a few times but end up not finishing it.

Don't know why as it's absolutely great! Going to see if I can get another 3-4 hours in this evening.

Maybe because it's 80-120 hours long so a big investment! I usually get side tracked a little while playing so you have to drag yourself back in to finish it.

Infernum · 06-07-2018 2:49pm

Steam summer sales resulted in my desktop being overloaded with nostalgia. I've been trying to hone my skills on Doom 3, Quake (1-4) and Unreal (Unreal '98-3 Black).

Also bought classics like Myst, Oddworld, Half Life 1 and 2, Stronghold Crusader, GTA (III-San Andreas), Return to Castle Wolfenstein, Red Faction's I and II, Star Wars Dark Forces and Mega Man Legacy Collection.

I'm all geared up to spend the rest of my summer trying to complete at least half of them.

o1s1n · 06-07-2018 3:57pm

Retr0gamer wrote: »

Maybe because it's 80-120 hours long so a big investment! I usually get side tracked a little while playing so you have to drag yourself back in to finish it.

Jaysus, didn't realise it was that long! :eek: that definitely explains it alright.

megaten · 06-07-2018 4:28pm

I think Persona 4 probably has the beast pacing of the modern persona games so that might make a difference. Though Golden was the one I finally managed to beat so I'm not sure how the latter game in the original compares.
Still man to go back and do the FeMC route in Persona 3 Portable.

CiDeRmAn · 06-07-2018 8:14pm

Infernum wrote: »

Steam summer sales resulted in my desktop being overloaded with nostalgia. I've been trying to hone my skills on Doom 3, Quake (1-4) and Unreal (Unreal '98-3 Black).

Also bought classics like Myst, Oddworld, Half Life 1 and 2, Stronghold Crusader, GTA (III-San Andreas), Return to Castle Wolfenstein, Red Faction's I and II, Star Wars Dark Forces and Mega Man Legacy Collection.

I'm all geared up to spend the rest of my summer trying to complete at least half of them.

I really enjoyed Quake, Quake 2&4 and Doom 3.
I have Doom 3 on the OG Xbox and it's a marvel they got it on there, running so well.
I have it on the 360 as well, the BFG edition, which comes with the DLC and, handily, also works on the XBOne.

o1s1n · 07-07-2018 7:02pm

Just remembered the Wiiu outputs analog 480i!

BOTW looks absolutely gorgeous. Great thing about this too is that it allows me to stream video content to the BVM via Youtube/netflix.

Best way to watch standard def 80s and 90s anime

Retr0gamer · 23-07-2018 10:16am

Finished Ninja Gaiden Black on Normal.

I only played the original version of Ninja Gaiden before. I was sceptical at how much the improvements Black brought improved the game but it's just so much better. The swallow Dive is no longer overpowered and there's less reliance on defence as enemies have grab attacks meaning you cant turtle up.

I means Ninja Gaiden has been transformed from an amazing game to the best character action game eve made in my opinion. So much so that it's actually ruined my enjoyment of the new God of War. I just can't get into it because it's no where near as good as NGB.

Going to try the higher difficulty levels as apparently it adds brand new enemies and really changes things up. Although saying that, my first attempt at hard mode ended before the first checkpoint.

CiDeRmAn · 23-07-2018 10:36am

I dug out my copy of NGB for the Xbox but have yet to try it out, as I failed so spectacularly the first time I tried to play Ninja Gaiden.
Must actually try it, though it is likely to break my heart!

Retr0gamer · 23-07-2018 10:58am

It's harsh but fair. There's always places you can stock up on healing items and there's only one or two difficulty spikes, the first boss when you don't understand the game, and Alma who can go suck all the dick.

DaveyDave · 28-07-2018 12:06am

Doom on the Saturn, which I'm promptly turning off. The frame rate is awful, it's actually giving me a headache. Must be 15fps or something...

accensi0n · 28-07-2018 12:39am

Tom and Jerry on the NES. It's alright, lots of slowdown though.

Burzum · 29-07-2018 1:32pm

Just started Final Fantasy 8 again for the millionth time

love that game.

Chaos Tourist · 02-08-2018 6:23pm

Gonna fire in WipEout 3 (1999) into the ps3 tonight and continue on with it over the weekend. So much futuristic goodness there. The art design and electronica soundtrack are terrific. I'm interested in the special edition but not so much in the price it's going for. Looks like another emulation job then.

DaveyDave · 02-08-2018 6:48pm

I've been undecided of what to play recently across all consoles, so I've been playing Wipeout Omega Collection on PS4

CiDeRmAn · 02-08-2018 7:14pm

Chaos Tourist wrote: »

Gonna fire in WipEout 3 (1999) into the ps3 tonight and continue on with it over the weekend. So much futuristic goodness there. The art design and electronica soundtrack are terrific. I'm interested in the special edition but not so much in the price it's going for. Looks like another emulation job then.

Wip3out SE is the one to find though, I got it on release and, contrary to my normal modus operandi, I never sold it on!
Looks amazing still, think it used the PS HD mode, didn't it?

Chaos Tourist · 02-08-2018 7:43pm

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

Wip3out SE is the one to find though, I got it on release and, contrary to my normal modus operandi, I never sold it on!
Looks amazing still, think it used the PS HD mode, didn't it?

Heard some good things about it--never played it though, the SE. It must be the best version of Wipeout on the ps1 and one of the best racers for that system. Hardly anyone knows about it, I only found out about it last year and I'd consider myself clued in enough about the ps1.

CiDeRmAn · 02-08-2018 9:20pm

If one likes Wipeout one has to own Rollcage and its first sequel, very good indeed though with the visual effects on overtime the frame rates aren't as stable as they could be, still worth owning if you like the genre.
Also, Powerdrome on the PS2 is pretty good, a sequel to the Amiga original and itself a forebear of Wipeout.

Retr0gamer · 03-08-2018 8:46am

The best Wipeout game is F-Zero GX :pac:

CiDeRmAn · 03-08-2018 2:37pm

Retr0gamer wrote: »

The best Wipeout game is F-Zero GX :pac:

Get out you buffoon!

Steve X2 · 03-08-2018 2:58pm

Why play, just watch

https://phoboslab.org/wipeout/

brianregan09 · 03-08-2018 4:04pm

Been playing the Omega Collection in VR it's probably one of the best VR games yet

DaveyDave · 03-08-2018 11:14pm

Played through House of the Dead 2 earlier. Wish it was a bit longer

CiDeRmAn · 05-08-2018 10:37am

DaveyDave wrote: »

Played through House of the Dead 2 earlier. Wish it was a bit longer

Did you get any secrets or branching paths?

A lot like much of Sega's output, such as Outrun 2, it's about replaying rather than lashing through and seeing all it has to offer.

I recall some numpty thinking one of there games was poor because a player could have seen everything in a couple of hours, completely forgetting the nature of the game.
It's like suggesting that Galaga or Robotron are boring.

DaveyDave · 05-08-2018 11:18am

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

Did you get any secrets or branching paths?

A lot like much of Sega's output, such as Outrun 2, it's about replaying rather than lashing through and seeing all it has to offer.

I recall some numpty thinking one of there games was poor because a player could have seen everything in a couple of hours, completely forgetting the nature of the game.
It's like suggesting that Galaga or Robotron are boring.

I took few different paths than usual, but I'll look into the secrets. I know of one secret room on the last level but didn't remember how to get it . Ah sure I've for original mode, training and boss mode to do also

accensi0n · 06-08-2018 1:51pm

Been playing Joe & Mac on the NES. It's not a great game but got far enough after a few attempts so kept playing until I finished it. There are 6 weapons but only 2 of them are really useful (stone wheel and fireball), so much so that if none of the enemy kills in the first 2 levels result in one of those two weapons I would just restart the game... did manage to kill the final boss with the default weapon though.

Here's a capture of my playthrough:

Retr0gamer · 07-08-2018 11:15am

Not retro as it's only just out but La mulana 2 is insanely good. The puzzles are much fairer than in the original but still manages to be a great homage to the MSX games it's based on.

o1s1n · 10-08-2018 10:43pm

What do you do when your BVM won't support NTSC 60HZ over composite?

Dig out a 9 inch PVM and play your famicom on that instead

They actually look really cool together, size difference is amazing.

accensi0n · 12-08-2018 9:15pm

Played through Battletoads again. Was hoping to finish it with no continues and max points but no luck, last level didn't go well at all.

KevW24601 · 14-08-2018 3:40pm

Been playing through The Lion King (Mega Drive). I'm making a point of passing that Level 2. Slowly but surely getting there. :P

DaveyDave · 14-08-2018 4:02pm

KevW24601 wrote: »

Been playing through The Lion King (Mega Drive). I'm making a point of passing that Level 2. Slowly but surely getting there. :P

I don't think I've been past level 2, it's very difficult!

KevW24601 · 14-08-2018 4:32pm

DaveyDave wrote: »

I don't think I've been past level 2, it's very difficult!

Probably the biggest difficulty spike in any game out there, considering that level 1 is practically a cakewalk!

Retr0gamer · 14-08-2018 5:02pm

I see a lot of people in the last few months say Lion King on the megadrive is a very tough game. I remember it as an absolute cakewalk. It's not that difficult at all except for the awful final boss fight.

CiDeRmAn · 16-08-2018 11:59pm

Spent the evening road testing the various versions of Outrun 2/2006 I have.
The PSP version is remarkable, though choppy at times.
The 360 native version looks and moves the best but is very limited in content.
The Xbox Outrun 2 is stunning, runs well natively but the frame rate bucks about on the 360 via backwards compatibility making it a waste of time.
The PS2 version of 2006, via HDMI, is stunning though not as sharp as the native 360 title. Where it does score better is the amount of content, which is all of Outrun 2 and 2006. Only thing it falls down on is the likes of the unlockable Scud Race tracks from Outrun 2 on the Xbox, which is the only place to find them.

Doge · 17-08-2018 5:57pm

Retr0gamer wrote: »

I see a lot of people in the last few months say Lion King on the megadrive is a very tough game. I remember it as an absolute cakewalk. It's not that difficult at all except for the awful final boss fight.

The maze level which I think is before the boss fight iirc is a pig though.

Retr0gamer · 17-08-2018 7:02pm

Doge wrote: »

The maze level which I think is before the boss fight iirc is a pig though.

Ah. Just remembered that now. Easy once you know how but before you know it off it's horrible. Like the last stage of revenge of shinobi

accensi0n · 29-08-2018 9:12pm

Been playing Batman on the NES the last while, finally finished it there. It's a good game, can see myself playing it again. Reminds me of Kabuki Quantum Fighter.

Infernum · 01-09-2018 8:34am

I mentioned in another thread that I've been playing Half-Life recently. My first time playing through it in fact, as I pretty much switched to PC gaming this year and am slowly catching up on all the great games I missed out on.

Also enjoying DMs on Quake III Arena and Unreal games whenever others feel up to playing.

Inviere · 01-09-2018 12:03pm

I'm waiting for Black Mesa to be finished (!), before playing through the HL's again.

o1s1n · 01-09-2018 1:06pm

Inviere wrote: »

I'm waiting for Black Mesa to be finished (!), before playing through the HL's again.

I only finished episode 2 for the first time two weeks ago!

Incredibly impatient to find out what happens next - honestly don't know how everyone has been coping all these years!

Inviere · 01-09-2018 1:42pm

o1s1n wrote: »

honestly don't know how everyone has been coping all these years!

CiDeRmAn · 01-09-2018 6:16pm

Half Life 3 coming to a Switch near you!

Don't worry.

It is only a timed exclusive.

After three months they'll release it on the other major consoles.

Dreamcast and Atari Jaguar!

DaveyDave · 05-09-2018 2:45pm

Played a bit of Typing of the Dead. Didn't do too bad, I think getting used to a new keyboard is more difficult than the romaji.

The boss fight for Tower is difficult because it asks a question so it's a shot in the dark and Magician has to be a perfect/no miss shot every time but luckily he spins infinitely until you start typing so you can see the word beforehand.

CiDeRmAn · 12-09-2018 8:46am

Played some of my recently purchased Wipeout 3, or Wip3out as this Japanese edition calls itself.
Very nice indeed, and a definite refinement over the original NA and EU release.
Apparently the tweaked the physics and handling to make the game a little friendlier and added some hidden tracks to unlock.
It's not quite the package that Wipeout 3 SE represents, which adds in quite a bit, I have that in the collection as well. That was an EU only release and now fetches quite big bucks in the US and Japan.

The Wipeout games, on the PS at least, always seemed to present the best combination of visuals, music and gameplay of most games of the era and have always seemed to weather the years quite well, even the original with all the tearing and simplistic ships.
But 2097 and 3 have been superb to look at, even decades later.

However, my recent time with Wipeout 3 has caused some sadness as it does, finally, appear quite dated now.
I mean, it plays great especially with the aforementioned tweaks.
Maybe the PS Vita and PS4 port of same have finally done for the old titles?

Pity then that Sony seem happy to keep the franchise on ice, releasing and re-releasing the last decent one instead.
Though the VR update was nice.... it has to be said.

Retr0gamer · 12-09-2018 10:40am

I enjoyed 2097 at the time and it was stylistically and visually stunning but by the time Wipeout 3 came along the sheen was gone and I didn't play it all that much. I just felt it was a poorer cousin to F-Zero and even the teams own rollcage games.

Last night I fired up Magic Carpet on GoG.

For all the **** Molyneaux gets, the man produced some of the all time PC greats and Magic Carpet still looks stunning. The engine is spectacular for a 1994 game. Your view might be obscured by a wall of fog but you have deformable terrain, undulating water, water reflections, undulation in said reflections, transparent shadows and even full screen anti aliasing in a 1994 release.

I spent ages messing with the CPU cycles in dosbox to get the game running at 60fps in SVGA mode, only to find that while it looked gorgeous it makes the map totally unreadable. So spent ages getting the game running properly in VGA mode.

The controls use the arrow keys instead of WASD so hoping to remap them as I've died a few times.

It's a very hard game to understand at first as it's unlike anything else on the market but once you actually figure out how to play it it's actually a very simple but fun shooter. Definitely worth digging out and playing.

Shapey Fiend · 13-09-2018 10:20am

Moleneux was involved with nothing but classics for years. That said I think he was quite hands off on some titles I don't think he'd much involvement.

I used play the game a ton on PSOne and never completed it due to difficult last few levels. It'd be fun to try on PC with a better draw distance. There's the sequel too of course.

CiDeRmAn · 13-09-2018 11:04am

When the 3DO came out there was a massive push from EA, as Trip Hawkins was behind both companies.
The benefit of this was the enhanced PC ports to the new, very expensive, system.
And this included Syndicate and the marvelous Magic Carpet.
I played Magic Carpet to death, the main campaign was pretty big as far as I remember, and a whole lot of fun, working well with the controller setup.
It's been years since I played it though.
The deformable nature of the game engine made it amazing, but the fixed nature of race tracks made it a poor choice for Hi-Octane, which compared really badly to Wipeout.

Rollcage and the sequel held up well next to the Wipeout series but the frame drops really hamper things, especially the second one.
They were doing lots of effects on screen, but the poor PS didn't have the horses!

I would say that, aside from the F-Zero games which were a very different animal, the only zero-g racing title that floated my boat was Powerdrome, on the PS2, a reboot of the Amiga game afaik.
It was terribly delayed and fell quickly into obscurity but still plays well today.

So, what you playing at the mo? Retro Edition

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