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Motorcycle FAQ

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  • #152
    jimbling
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,053 ✭✭✭jimbling


    sorry, wrong thread.


  • #153
    chicken_food
    Closed Accounts Posts: 939 ✭✭✭chicken_food


    Quick point of clarification for anyone new to this and reading it for the first time.
    As not stated in the link above-once your full B license has been issued before october 2007, then you are entitled to drive a moped. However if you have only gotten your license since after october 2007, as far as I'm aware you must sit another theory test and apply for the M license.

    Im open to correction, but thats the way I think it is.


  • #154
    RandomQuestion
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9 ✭RandomQuestion


    Does anyone know if motorcycles and mopeds are exempt from pay and display? Cause eh where would we display it?

    Just got my license today :D and will be parking in a pay and display area tonight, so if anyone could let me know or give point me in the right direction it would be great.


  • #155
    thehomeofDob
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,452 ✭✭✭thehomeofDob


    Find somewhere a bit away from the P&D area with a wide footpath and park there. I park on the footpath all over dublin and have never had issues. As long as your parked on a wide part with plenty of room for pedestrians + buggies and what not.


  • #156
    jmck87
    Closed Accounts Posts: 197 ✭✭jmck87


    Is the holder of a Cat A full licence permitted to drive mopeds of 50cc?


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  • #157
    Del2005
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,031 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    RandomQuestion wrote: »
    Does anyone know if motorcycles and mopeds are exempt from pay and display? Cause eh where would we display it?

    Just got my license today :D and will be parking in a pay and display area tonight, so if anyone could let me know or give point me in the right direction it would be great.

    I think I read somewhere that it's illegal for a motorcycle to use a pay and display area, that's why they don't ticket motorbikes for parking on the kerb once you don't take the p!ss.
    jmck87 wrote: »
    Is the holder of a Cat A full licence permitted to drive mopeds of 50cc?

    Yes, provided they have insurance:D


  • #158
    Bb4sure
    Closed Accounts Posts: 76 ✭✭Bb4sure


    I have a provisional license which covers the 33bhp. I'm 21 and wanting to know if I get the full license now. What cc bike can I drive after that? Do I have to do more tests to upgrade through higher cc categorys???


  • #159
    jameshayes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,772 ✭✭✭jameshayes


    Bb4sure wrote: »
    I have a provisional license which covers the 33bhp. I'm 21 and wanting to know if I get the full license now. What cc bike can I drive after that? Do I have to do more tests to upgrade through higher cc categorys???

    You can drive any CC bike you wish providing it is restricted to 33bhp for 2 years after the date of issue on your full driving licence & you can get insured of course!


  • #160
    thehippychippy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 220 ✭✭thehippychippy


    Hi all,
    I'm new to this site so i'm sorry if I'm stpping on toes when I post this but!!!
    I've got my bike test in a few days and have just noticed the test is for Cat. A.
    Now my learner permit says A< (restricted) and the number 993.
    My bike is a 650cc and I've been told by different people that

    1, i can't do the test
    2, i have to restrict the bike (which is fine)
    3, i have to apply for an A<25kw test.
    4, cancel the test until I find out some more info.
    (I've cancelled twice because I was still working
    on getting the bike ready)

    I was on a 250 from '03 until '07 and am on my third lerner permit now.

    Any clarification would be appreciated, I getting the last of my lessons tonight and think I'll turn up for the test anyway and see how it goes.
    Thanks in advance and safe journey


  • #161
    jameshayes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,772 ✭✭✭jameshayes


    thehippychippy wrote: »
    Hi all,
    I'm new to this site so i'm sorry if I'm stpping on toes when I post this but!!!
    I've got my bike test in a few days and have just noticed the test is for Cat. A.
    Now my learner permit says A< (restricted) and the number 993.
    My bike is a 650cc and I've been told by different people that

    1, i can't do the test
    2, i have to restrict the bike (which is fine)
    3, i have to apply for an A<25kw test.
    4, cancel the test until I find out some more info.
    (I've cancelled twice because I was still working
    on getting the bike ready)

    I was on a 250 from '03 until '07 and am on my third lerner permit now.

    Any clarification would be appreciated, I getting the last of my lessons tonight and think I'll turn up for the test anyway and see how it goes.
    Thanks in advance and safe journey



    You'll have to sign a declaration saying the bike is restricted & insured - there will be no formal checks made. You can do the test on the bike you're driving...

    Just done mine yesterday;)


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  • #162
    thehippychippy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 220 ✭✭thehippychippy


    Sweet! How'd you get on, any tips?


  • #163
    Lumen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,137 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    FYI, the link to http://www.soyouwanttodrive.com/ for licence information on the FAQ is bad:

    "Account suspended

    Account for domain www.soyouwanttodrive.com has been suspended".


  • #164
    Jokermuffin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 21 ✭Jokermuffin


    Hello

    I apologise in advance for being seriously dim, but I have read EVERYTHING about scooters and mopeds and bikes in general and I am actually more confused. If somebody doesn't mind helping me out in their own time I would really appreciate it......

    Sceil is - My partner and I have bought a Vespa PX80 that is 139cc. My partner has a full driving licence and I am on the short notice list for mine so I should have one in a few weeks, but for now I would like to learn and use the scooter. We both passed our Theory test for motorbikes this week so I am trying to find out what exactly the next step is before I get us insured.

    1. Do we both need a new learner permit licence?
    2. Do we need to do a training course to be allowed ride?
    3. Can either of us take a pilon passenger?

    I know that the answers to these questions are probably jumping out at me from various different posts but i just can't seem to get my head around them.

    Thank you in advance!!!
    Sound.

    M&V


  • #165
    Cuddlesworth
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,997 ✭✭✭✭Cuddlesworth


    Jokermuffin wrote: »
    Sceil is - My partner and I have bought a Vespa PX80 that is 139cc. My partner has a full driving licence and I am on the short notice list for mine so I should have one in a few weeks, but for now I would like to learn and use the scooter. We both passed our Theory test for motorbikes this week so I am trying to find out what exactly the next step is before I get us insured.

    I'm reading this as your husband has a full CAT B License. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
    Jokermuffin wrote: »
    1. Do we both need a new learner permit licence?

    You need to get your A cat placed onto your current permit. Fill out a new provisional form without the payment or eye check, tick the new box for Cat A as well as your Cat B section and hand it in with the theory test results and your current permit. A new one will be sent out.

    Your partner will most likely need to apply for a new permit if he has had his full license over 2 years.
    Jokermuffin wrote: »
    2. Do we need to do a training course to be allowed ride?

    No but it would be recommended.

    Jokermuffin wrote: »
    3. Can either of us take a pilon passenger?

    Only with a full bike license. After two years of holding it.


  • #166
    Hotblack Desiato
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,476 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    You can carry a pillion passenger as soon as you get your full licence, de-restriction has to wait two years.

    Scrap the cap!



  • #167
    Jokermuffin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 21 ✭Jokermuffin


    It's a full B category licence, over two years. I'm only getting mine in the next few weeks.

    Thanks for all the help.

    Sound.

    M&V


  • #168
    Cuddlesworth
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,997 ✭✭✭✭Cuddlesworth


    ninja900 wrote: »
    You can carry a pillion passenger as soon as you get your full licence, de-restriction has to wait two years.

    Cool.


  • #169
    Channel
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3 ✭Channel


    A. Where could I buy good motorcycle helmets without being ripped off.
    B. Are there helmets with communication devices?


  • #170
    KamiKazi
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,201 ✭✭✭KamiKazi


    Channel wrote: »
    A. Where could I buy good motorcycle helmets without being ripped off.
    B. Are there helmets with communication devices?

    Cotters are having a sale next Saturday, you'll get a cracker of a helmet for a good price. Check the other thread.

    Don't think there are any that come with comms, maybe you should look at getting something like the Scala Rider 2


  • #171
    parttime
    Registered Users Posts: 284 ✭✭parttime


    Ok, so i have a provisional licence for category b and category a1. Does this mean i can drive said power of motorbike, provided I have insurence? All replies apprieciated!


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  • #172
    Idleater
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,236 ✭✭✭Idleater


    parttime wrote: »
    Ok, so i have a provisional licence for category b and category a1. Does this mean i can drive said power of motorbike, provided I have insurence? All replies apprieciated!

    Yup, you can drive any bike within the power restrictions specified by the A1 licence.
    Specifically that is: Motorcycles up to 11kW and up to 125cc with or without a sidecar and you must be at least 16 years old.


  • #173
    parttime
    Registered Users Posts: 284 ✭✭parttime


    Cheers nereid :D


  • #174
    LD 50
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,559 ✭✭✭LD 50


    Can one of the Mods ammend the orig post, now that Hibernian don't do bike ins, and haven't done for 3 or 4 years now.


  • #175
    dceire
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,881 ✭✭✭dceire


    a_ominous wrote: »
    Well since I suggested it, I'll start the ball rolling.

    Licence
    You need a licence to ride a bike. Here for some details.

    There seems to be a problem with this link guys.


  • #176
    jrt123
    Registered Users Posts: 26 ✭jrt123


    Currently driving a 50cc moped on full car license. Can I get a 125 scooter with a full car license, or do I need to do the whole 16hrs driver training stuff to move to a 125 scooter?

    thanks.


  • #177
    KamiKazi
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,201 ✭✭✭KamiKazi


    You need to do IBT.


  • #178
    Hotblack Desiato
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,476 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    KamiKazi wrote: »
    You need to do IBT.

    And get an A1 or A learner permit of course...

    Incidentally, if your full car licence was first obtained on or after 21 October 2006, you're NOT entitled to ride a moped on that licence. Source: citizensinformation.ie

    Scrap the cap!



  • #179
    DF1
    Registered Users Posts: 121 ✭✭DF1


    Just wondering how the new changes introduced in december effect a new rider.
    I never had a bike licence (car 14 years), do I now have to do a set number of hours training before I can even do test ?


  • #180
    Wossack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,026 ✭✭✭Wossack


    DF1 wrote: »
    Just wondering how the new changes introduced in december effect a new rider.
    I never had a bike licence (car 14 years), do I now have to do a set number of hours training before I can even do test ?


    if you've never held a learner permit prior to dec 6 2010, you need to pass an Initial Basic Training (IBT) course of 16 hours

    not only will you not be able to pass your test without a IBT cert, you're not allowed out on public roads without one :o

    more details


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  • #181
    eurofoxy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 440 ✭✭eurofoxy


    DF1 wrote: »
    Just wondering how the new changes introduced in december effect a new rider.
    I never had a bike licence (car 14 years), do I now have to do a set number of hours training before I can even do test ?

    yes you will have to do the ibt and also you will have to do the theory test, having a car licence means nothing other than you can drive a car and scooter under 50cc.


  • #182
    Murfteck
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2 ✭Murfteck


    Hello All.
    I'm looking at this sticky and looking at all the comments, I'm probably seeing my answer but not listening so here goes with my question and all I need is for someone to confirm.

    I used to ride motorcycles years ago and would love to get back into riding them again. I never had a full bike license but had a few "old" style provisionals before. I should add that I have a car license for decades and I'm now well over 45yrs old. Basically do I have to start again and do it the new way?


  • #183
    EvilMonkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,823 ✭✭✭EvilMonkey


    I'm not surprised you couldn't find anything in this sticky :D
    If your bike provisional is over 5 years expired then you would have to start again as far as i know.


  • #184
    Wossack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,026 ✭✭✭Wossack


    EvilMonkey wrote: »
    I'm not surprised you couldn't find anything in this sticky :D
    If your bike provisional is over 5 years expired then you would have to start again as far as i know.

    I think its over 10 years - might need to give the Motor Tax office a bell tbh


  • #185
    Murfteck
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2 ✭Murfteck


    Thanks guys for the update. I will ring the local motor tax office and let ye know how I got on.


  • #186
    yamahaman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8 ✭yamahaman


    just to say i'm with quinn direct who are a lot cheaper than the quotes i got from those companies... especialy for younger drivers i would say it wud save u a fortune... but they are still basturds ... like everything else that takes all my money


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  • #187
    flyton5
    Registered Users Posts: 1,112 ✭✭✭flyton5


    Quick question. I want to take a restricted 650cc to Europe on a full licence with a pillion passenger. At the moment I only have 3rd party Fire & Theft insurance wise. Can I take it over or do I need to adjust my cover and/or wait until my two year restriction is up?


  • #188
    Idleater
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,236 ✭✭✭Idleater


    flyton5 wrote: »
    Quick question. I want to take a restricted 650cc to Europe on a full licence with a pillion passenger. At the moment I only have 3rd party Fire & Theft insurance wise. Can I take it over or do I need to adjust my cover and/or wait until my two year restriction is up?
    As long as you have a full license for the bike you are riding then all you need by law is third party insurance. I.e. full licence states the dates for restriction so your driving abroad are also subject to that restriction. Obviously learner permits only allow riding in this jurisdiction.
    Depending on your insurer, the T's n C's may stipulate conditions on cover outside the country. Eg. 30 days max, or eu only etc. etc. You're better off ringing them to ensure you have the cover for your intended use.

    Also, when traveling abroad,you should take the original full a4 policy documents with you.


  • #189
    TheZohanS
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,582 ✭✭✭✭TheZohanS


    My first Provisional/Learners permit is about to expire. Do I have to apply for the test now or can I just pop down to the Tax Office and get a new one?


    Thanks.


  • #190
    RosieJoe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,500 ✭✭✭RosieJoe


    TheZohan wrote: »
    My first Provisional/Learners permit is about to expire. Do I have to apply for the test now or can I just pop down to the Tax Office and get a new one?


    Thanks.

    From the citizen's information website:
    A driving test is a compulsory requirement for motorcyclists who have been issued with two 2-year provisional driving licences. It is important to be aware that you may not apply for a third or subsequent provisional licence for any category of vehicle unless you can show evidence you have applied for a driving test.

    Seeing as you are going from your first to second permit there is no need for the test. So yeah, just pop down to the tax office to get your new permit.


  • #191
    Captain-America
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,391 ✭✭✭Captain-America


    Just a quick question with regards insurance, is the first post in this thread still accurate when it says Carole Nash and Hibernian are the only two bike insurers in Ireland?


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  • #192
    Blondie919
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,454 ✭✭✭Blondie919


    Captain-America wrote: »
    Just a quick question with regards insurance, is the first post in this thread still accurate when it says Carole Nash and Hibernian are the only two bike insurers in Ireland?

    Adelaide who are based in the North cover motorbikes. I think Quinn Direct do too.


  • #193
    P.C.
    Registered Users Posts: 2,782 ✭✭✭P.C.


    Captain-America wrote: »
    Just a quick question with regards insurance, is the first post in this thread still accurate when it says Carole Nash and Hibernian are the only two bike insurers in Ireland?

    No.

    There are four companies that do insurance for bikes in Ireland at the moment:
    Carole Nash
    Quinne, or whatever they are called now.
    Adelaide
    Anon


  • #194
    RosieJoe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,500 ✭✭✭RosieJoe


    P.C. wrote: »
    No.

    There are four companies that do insurance for bikes in Ireland at the moment:
    Carole Nash
    Quinne, or whatever they are called now.
    Adelaide
    Aon

    FYP there PC


  • #195
    oleras
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,724 ✭✭✭oleras


    P.C. wrote: »
    No.

    There are four companies that do insurance for bikes in Ireland at the moment:
    Carole Nash
    Quinne, Liberty Insurance.
    Adelaide
    Anon

    FYP


  • #196
    Outofthecity
    Registered Users Posts: 10 ✭Outofthecity


    eurofoxy wrote: »
    yes you will have to do the ibt and also you will have to do the theory test, having a car licence means nothing other than you can drive a car and scooter under 50cc.



    Can anyone confirm the bit here about a car licence being ok for scooter under50cc .....i have heard it before but cant find it written anywhere . thank you


  • #197
    RosieJoe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,500 ✭✭✭RosieJoe


    Outofthecity wrote: »
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    Can anyone confirm the bit here about a car licence being ok for scooter under50cc .....i have heard it before but cant find it written anywhere . thank you

    Have a read of this post here


  • #198
    Outofthecity
    Registered Users Posts: 10 ✭Outofthecity


    RosieJoe wrote: »
    Have a read of this post here
    Very much appreciated !


  • #199
    danzdan
    Registered Users Posts: 36 ✭danzdan


    I'm a leaner driver in Ireland. I've drivin In Spain for 10 years so I think I'm a pretty okay driver. I'm always careful and and never drive like a maniac. But I recently drive from Galway to Shannon. On the back roads. Not a bad drive, but not a safe drive either. Why aren't experienced learner motorcyclist aloud to drive on the motorway. The motorway Is far safer than some of the back roads I had to take with diesel spills and wet slurry on the roads. Just an a thought I had while I was driving. Thought I'd share. Any feed back greatly appreciated. Cheers!


  • #200
    gipi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,032 ✭✭✭gipi


    danzdan,

    No learner drivers (whether it be car or bike) are allowed on the motorway in Ireland regardless of experience.

    The ban is most likely because of the increased speeds on the motorway, which a learner might find daunting.

    It was the same in the UK up until this year when they changed their rules to allow learners onto the motorway.

    It's possible that the Irish will look at the pros and cons of the UK situation and might decide to change the rules.

    As an aside, if you've driven in Spain, did you not swap your licence for an Irish one, or did you not ride bikes over there? Why did you have to start as a learner again?


  • #201
    danzdan
    Registered Users Posts: 36 ✭danzdan


    @gipi. While I lived in Spain I drove 125 type cruiser jap import. As I had full driving license for a car I could drive the motorcycle too. It was great, cheap insurance to. I looked into doing the test over there but it's alot more complicated than here or in the uk. I decided to wait till I moved back, being quiet content driving this bike. I know have a restricted sv 650. It's an absolute dream. I am applying to do my test shortly but will get a few pretest lessons to knock out some of my bad habits of which I'm sure I have. Thanks for reply. Happy and safe driving to all ;)


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