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Greta and the aristocrat sail the high seas to save the planet.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 28,119 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    hetuzozaho wrote: »
    What does Gurning Greta mean?



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,840 ✭✭✭hetuzozaho


    It's just a shallow and fatuous insult based on nothing at all bar an attempt to appear clever and funny.

    Ah I see. They didn't manage either


  • Registered Users Posts: 81,446 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    Has she completely left mainstream education? Surely that's a waste of good carbon?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,840 ✭✭✭hetuzozaho


    Think education wise she has done quite well..

    The people with the Gurning remarks maybe need to go back to school :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,421 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    So a climate change conference in Chile, which was to call for increased introduction of carbon taxes to fight climate change had to be cancelled because of the violent public reaction to an increase in transport costs due to the introduction of carbon taxes.

    Oh the ironing.

    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



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  • Registered Users Posts: 81,446 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    hetuzozaho wrote: »
    Think education wise she has done quite well..

    The people with the Gurning remarks maybe need to go back to school :)


    In most developed countries not going to school results in the parents being jailed as idiots unless the parents are 'cultural'.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,840 ✭✭✭hetuzozaho


    In most developed countries not going to school results in the parents being jailed as idiots unless the parents are 'cultural'.

    Yikes. Some of my friend's folks are very lucky so haha


  • Registered Users Posts: 81,446 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    hetuzozaho wrote: »
    Yikes. Some of my friend's folks are very lucky so haha


    Yes their choice of absence impacts on the rest of the class and results in overall education being reduced for those complying with the rules.


    Anyone wanting to move their kids outside the curriculum should finance it accordingly.


  • Registered Users Posts: 21,520 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    In most developed countries not going to school results in the parents being jailed as idiots unless the parents are 'cultural'.

    Not when the child is over the age of 16 (15 years 3 months in Ireland I think) and has not registered for the school year.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,818 ✭✭✭Tea drinker


    JJayoo wrote: »
    Would Greta's level of English be common for kids/teens in Sweden?

    When you think about the average Irish kid....12 years of learning Irish...
    Swedes have excellent english, have worked with many of them and they all had excellent social and professional levels. At 12 I'd say good grasp is expected.
    I don't think the Irish education system can really be a model or comparison to others. The socialist model has worked well for them till now.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 28,119 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Swedes have excellent english, have worked with many of them and they all had excellent social and professional levels. At 12 I'd say good grasp is expected.
    I don't think the Irish education system can really be a model or comparison to others. The socialist model has worked well for them till now.

    I've lived with a few, find them a bit weird and can get offended easily. Certainly not as much crack as the Irish, we shouldn't be copying them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    She is of course joking about her travelling the wrong way.

    Current domestic situation in Chile has led to the conference being moved.



    Expect she will have to fly to Spain if she is to make the conference. Her detractors will enjoy that.

    Why does she have to be there at all??


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,849 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    Why does she have to be there at all??

    because she is saving the planet remember :rolleyes:, yes by coming up with super ideas like taxing the ****e out of people in the hope the brazilians will stop burning their forests or the indonesians will stop using the ocean as a landfill ...


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    It's just a shallow and fatuous insult based on nothing at all bar an attempt to appear clever and funny.

    oh noes a shallow and fatuous remark in this thread

    you only take issue with it on one side, obviously.

    theres probably a word for that


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,818 ✭✭✭Tea drinker


    I've lived with a few, find them a bit weird and can get offended easily. Certainly not as much crack as the Irish, we shouldn't be copying them.
    I found them great crack, and similar to Irish. I'd certainly say we could learn a few things from them. Well, absent the Greta experience


  • Registered Users Posts: 33,139 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    You often hear China slagged off about their coalmines, but I see the UK is allowing a new one to open

    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-cumbria-50274212


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,500 ✭✭✭Pa ElGrande


    The first world problems of young adults . . . .



    Activists sail four weeks across Atlantic for climate change summit -- then learn it is canceled
    (CNN)A group of climate activists crossing the Atlantic by sailboat to a UN summit in Chile were shocked to learn the event was canceled -- four weeks into their grueling voyage.

    The 36 young environmentalists set off from Amsterdam on October 2, using a sailboat in order to highlight the impact of flying on greenhouse gas emissions.
    They had completed more than half of their seven-week journey to the UN Climate Conference (COP25) in Santiago, Chile, which was scheduled to take place in early December.

    However Chile's President Sebastián Piñera announced Wednesday that the country would no longer host the summit, amid protests that have left at least 20 people dead and led to the resignation of eight cabinet ministers.

    Instead of turning back, the Sail to the COP group, as the activists are known, have now decided to sail on to Belém, Brazil.

    source


    About Belem. The weather is nice there as well. ;). If they want to take a container ship home it will probably set them back $100 a day and it takes a lot longer as you have to go as slowly as the container ship.
    Belém is served by two airports: Val de Cans International Airport, which connects the city with the rest of Brazil and other cities in South America, North America (USA) and Europe (Lisbon) and Brig. Protásio de Oliveira Airport (formerly called Júlio César Airport) dedicated to general aviation.

    source


    Greta Thunberg Begs For Help After Traveling Halfway Around The World 'The Wrong Way'



    Hans von Storch: "The demand of Greta Thunberg, we should panic, has something of ideas of an end-time sect" URL="https://kaltesonne.de/hans-von-storch-die-forderung-von-greta-thunberg-wir-sollten-in-panik-geraten-hat-etwas-von-ideen-einer-endzeitsekte/"]DE[/URL
    Abendblatt : Greta Thunberg says: Listen to science! Is that good for you?

    Hans von Storch : She calls for listening to scientists who should reinforce what she believes and says anyway. Some colleagues then use particularly pithy statements to address cultural notions that we hold archetypally deep inside us - for example, that we humans are destroying the world because of our sinful behavior. This is an ancient motive. There is indeed an important issue with climate change. But the way it's treated has more to do with public psychology than with the science it claims to be.


    URL="https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fkaltesonne.de%2Fhans-von-storch-die-forderung-von-greta-thunberg-wir-sollten-in-panik-geraten-hat-etwas-von-ideen-einer-endzeitsekte%2F"]google translate[/URL


    Spain has problems of its own.

    Net Zero means we are paying for the destruction of our economy and society in pursuit of an unachievable and pointless policy.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,352 ✭✭✭1800_Ladladlad


    Info like the below always puts in things in perspective when it comes to coverages


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  • Registered Users Posts: 13,901 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    For gods sake we need to stop producing plastic not finding better ways of cleaning up our mess which is an impossible task at the rate we are polluting. We cant continue as we are with exponential economic growth it is eco suicide.


  • Registered Users Posts: 21,520 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Info like the below always puts in things in perspective when it comes to coverages


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    This shows the benefit of the effort that Greta is doing. 11M have joined her in Global protests and the conversation on this is ever louder.

    One familiarity between Boyan and Greta is the detractors lining up telling them it won't work. I would bet both of them are supportive of the others efforts.

    One thing I would be worried about Boyan's approach is that many might use it as an argument to not change, saying 'sure the ocean clean up will catch it'.

    To use an analogy, if you had a hole in your roof and water was pouring in, boyan has invented a clever system to catch it all, Greta is saying we should listen to the engineers who says the hole in the roof should be fixed.


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    For gods sake we need to stop producing plastic not finding better ways of cleaning up our mess which is an impossible task at the rate we are polluting. We cant continue as we are with exponential economic growth it is eco suicide.

    Yeah you are right.

    That young lad isn't half as amazing as a girl who stopped going to school because of the environment and has been foisted onto the main stage by her parents, listing her disability as a superpower.

    Go greta.


  • Registered Users Posts: 21,520 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Yeah you are right.

    That young lad isn't half as amazing as a girl who stopped going to school because of the environment and has been foisted onto the main stage by her parents, listing her disability as a superpower.

    Go greta.

    Can you point to any evidence of this? Or is it just a rumour you are using to negate the value of what she has done.

    Also, this isn't an either or, Boyan should be applauded for his efforts, so too should Greta. Those saying there is no point, no need, they are puppets for socialist governments to raise taxes, their parents are abusing them, they are doing it for attention, they just want to make money, and so on and so on are really the only ones not adding value in the whole conversation. Well, they are adding one piece of value, they are showing there is a critical need for work to be done because people are not going to change their behaviours on their own.


  • Registered Users Posts: 141 ✭✭DeconSheridan


    Amazing they wont go to China or India the worlds biggest polluters.. Communism is what they really want, the climate farce is just a stick to bang the drum with.


  • Registered Users Posts: 21,520 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Amazing they wont go to China or India the worlds biggest polluters.. Communism is what they really want, the climate farce is just a stick to bang the drum with.

    Hi, welcome to Boards.

    How do you reckon 'they' want communism? What evidence is there in anything which Greta has said to indicate this?


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,901 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    Amazing they wont go to China or India the worlds biggest polluters.. Communism is what they really want, the climate farce is just a stick to bang the drum with.

    Who is they? Greta went to the United Nations, China and India are part of the UN. No one expects her to change the world but at least she's making some people aware of the issues at play.


  • Registered Users Posts: 26,282 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    Amazing they wont go to China or India the worlds biggest polluters.. Communism is what they really want, the climate farce is just a stick to bang the drum with.
    Its always the same.
    'listen to the scientists' our own Jess Spear who's speaking at a PbP climate indoctrination in dublin soon


    EDIT : twitter wouldnt embed properly but if you look at her twitter feed its a lot of her calling for forced nationalisation, the jailing of executives, forced green new deals, socialist uprisings etc.... massive greta fan with a marxist flair


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,901 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    Its always the same.
    'listen to the scientists' our own Jess Spear who's speaking at a PbP climate indoctrination in dublin soon


    EDIT : twitter wouldnt embed properly but if you look at her twitter feed its a lot of her calling for forced nationalisation, the jailing of executives, forced green new deals, socialist uprisings etc.... massive greta fan with a marxist flair

    She sounds amazing, right up my street, I'll look her up


  • Registered Users Posts: 26,282 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    She sounds amazing, right up my street, I'll look her up

    494437.jpeg

    well she does make her agenda very very clear. the venn diagram of communism vs climate activism is rapidly becoming a circle.


  • Registered Users Posts: 141 ✭✭DeconSheridan


    Hi, welcome to Boards.

    How do you reckon 'they' want communism? What evidence is there in anything which Greta has said to indicate this?

    Its not the child per se but the people and funding behind the movement.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 21,520 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Its not the child per se but the people and funding behind the movement.

    Who are 'the people'?

    Do you think there is an issue in terms of mans impact on the environment?
    How do you think we should tackle it?

    Greta thinks there's an issue, she thinks we need to unite behind the science to develop solutions to reduce the impact on society and facilitate alternative methods to supplying worldwide economies.

    It's not very complicated, or unreasonable to hold this view is it?


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