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Keeper league

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,049 ✭✭✭boccy23


    Ok. 10 teams it is then.

    League is set and each team must decide on its 6 keepers by 25th of March.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,296 ✭✭✭Coeus


    boccy23 wrote: »
    Right lads. Just to let you know, we have 2 managers from last year, "Machete" and "The Southern Dandies" who are definitely out. Still waiting for "Henry le Cheat" to come back to me. He was active last year, so hopeful he will sign up again.

    If we do get to 10, will we run with 10 or open up the above two teams to an additional 2 owners to keep the league at 12?
    Hey Guys, I signed up a few days ago. I was away for the last 2 weeks and didnt have much net access but my team is now there :)

    Re adding cats I like adding holds for pitching. For batting I suggest OPS which is on base percentage and slugging. We can always throw up a poll.

    Im cool with 10 aswell. Are we gonna add extra roster spots? The free agent pool will be much shallower with only 10 teams.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭Iang87


    I definitely like the OBP and maybe quality starts to the pitching maybe even Ks/9.

    I've no problem with an extra roster spot given the quality of teams are going to improve. Should make trade activity a little more lively too


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭Iang87


    Ok keepers have been selected. Anyone who was hoping they'd be getting Gonzo best come up with an awesome trade offer


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,296 ✭✭✭Coeus


    boccy23 wrote: »
    Ok. 10 teams it is then.

    League is set and each team must decide on its 6 keepers by 25th of March.
    This date is fine for picking the keepers but I just noticed that the draft is set for March 30th which is after the 2 games in Japan. If these 2 games are to be included in the week 1 scoring we will have to draft before the 28th. I'm good with any night (25th, 26th or 27th) in the few days before that series starts...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,049 ✭✭✭boccy23


    Coeus wrote: »
    boccy23 wrote: »
    Ok. 10 teams it is then.

    League is set and each team must decide on its 6 keepers by 25th of March.
    This date is fine for picking the keepers but I just noticed that the draft is set for March 30th which is after the 2 games in Japan. If these 2 games are to be included in the week 1 scoring we will have to draft before the 28th. I'm good with any night (25th, 26th or 27th) in the few days before that series starts...
    How about we make it a week earlier alround?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,296 ✭✭✭Coeus


    boccy23 wrote: »
    How about we make it a week earlier alround?
    Keeper date is fine, according to the league the keepers must be picked by 8am on the morning of the March 25th so I'll pick mine the day before. We can have the draft that night. A week earlier is Paddies weekend and some peops may not be around.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,049 ✭✭✭boccy23


    Can't do a poll on an existing thread so, these are some of the outstanding points. Can each member please look at these and reply or send me a PM:

    Draft Date:
    Sunday, 25th, Monday 26th or Tuesday 27th.

    Max Aquisitions:
    6 now. Do we need to increase?

    Min Innings pitched:
    Set at 7. Do we need to increase?

    Batters Catagories:
    OBP / OPS / Hits / Walks

    Pitcher Catagories:
    Complete Games / Quality Starts / Losses / Shutouts / Holds / Ks per 9 / Ks per Walk ratio

    Roster Make Up:
    Set at 1IF / 2 UTIL. Do we add a Corner Infielder or Middle Infielder or another outfielder. Roster size set at 5 bench. Increase to 7 with smaller league size?

    If we can finalise these, then I can set these before Keeper date of 25th March.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,049 ✭✭✭boccy23


    In answer to my own questions:

    Draft Date:
    Sunday, 25th

    Max Aquisitions:
    6 now. Do we need to increase? 10

    Min Innings pitched:
    Set at 7. Do we need to increase? 25 (Puts a preium on quality starting pitching)

    Batters Catagories:
    OBP

    Pitcher Catagories:
    Ks per 9

    Roster Make Up:
    4th outfielder.
    Increase to 7


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,296 ✭✭✭Coeus


    Here are my thoughts...

    Draft Date:
    Sunday, 25th, Monday 26th or Tuesday 27th.
    I can do any 3 nights from 9 pm on. I think keeper league 2.0 is going to be set for Mon 26th according to the threads here. I havn't set a date for the non-keeper league yet so Sun 25th is free wink.gif

    Max Aquisitions:
    6 now. Do we need to increase?
    With less teams I was thinking increase aswell. My initial reasoning for 6 keepers was to put more talent back in the draft pool but with 2 teams been dissolved there is less of a need. I would go for 8 with the current roster size.

    Min Innings pitched:
    Set at 7. Do we need to increase?
    Yea, I guess there is no harm increasing. Think I was passing 50 innings pitched most gameweeks last season. Increasing to 25 innings is fine by me.

    Batters Catagories:
    OBP / OPS / Hits / Walks
    OPS.

    Pitcher Catagories:
    Complete Games / Quality Starts / Losses / Shutouts / Holds / Ks per 9 / Ks per Walk ratio
    Of the above, Holds as all players who dominate that stat will be available in the draft.

    Roster Make Up:
    Set at 1IF / 2 UTIL. Do we add a Corner Infielder or Middle Infielder or another outfielder. Roster size set at 5 bench. Increase to 7 with smaller league size?
    If we go for holds as the pitching stat I would add a pitcher position, we can probably add this anyway. In the fielding positions I would remove the 1IF and add 1CIF and 1MIF. Then maybe increase the bench size to 6 and add another DL position.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭Iang87


    I liked the roster set up last year but i'm open to change.

    Apart from that I agree with everything else you suggested. I'm available any of those nights too for draft


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,747 ✭✭✭fisgon


    Draft date: The Sunday is definitely the best date for me of the three.

    Roster: If we have fewer players/teams it's probably good to expand the roster size. Exactly how we do that I don't have an opinion on.

    Categories: Again, don't really have a strong opinion on this, though if we're going to add any, I think only add one for pitchers and one for hitters. There's no need to change things too much.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,335 ✭✭✭smackbunnybaby


    Sunday suits me the best as well.
    Monday - Ok-ish
    Tuesday - Out

    with regards to extra categories, how about something negative for the batters like Ks or Errors....just to keep it interesting...

    I'm not sure what is meant by IF, CIF and MIF (well I know what IF meant, but not the other 2)

    /////////////////////////////////////////
    Draft Date:
    Sunday, 25th

    Max Aquisitions:
    9!

    Min Innings pitched:
    25 sounds good to me. Less chance of sitting pitchers!

    Batters Catagories:
    OBP, Ks or Errors

    Pitcher Catagories:
    Holds. I think it makes more pitchers worth something and forces people to study the middle innings more.

    Roster Make Up:
    An extra pitcher.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 444 ✭✭brilliantboy


    Draft Date: Sunday 25th

    Max Aquisitions: 7

    Min Innings pitched: 25

    Batters Categories: OBP

    Pitcher Categories: K/BB

    Roster Make Up: No strong feelings
    I'm not sure what is meant by IF, CIF and MIF (well I know what IF meant, but not the other 2)

    Corner Infielder (1B, 3B) and Middle Infielder (2B, SS)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,049 ✭✭✭boccy23


    Sorry lads, by max. acquisitions I meant adds per week. If we add holds or increase number of innings pitched, then I thought we might want to increase the number of adds per week to 10.

    I would rather keep the number of keepers at 6. But if everyone wants to increase this, then fine.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,049 ✭✭✭boccy23


    Right here goes:

    Draft Date: Sunday 25th of March at 9PM

    Kepper Date: Saturday 24th

    Added OBP for Batters and Holds for Pitchers to make it a 6x6 league.

    Increased weekly aquisitions to 10 and min. innings pitched to 25.

    I decided to lave the rest of the rosters as is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,296 ✭✭✭Coeus


    The changes look good to me.

    Just 6 keepers, gonna to tough to to wittle the squad down. At the moment only 2 of mine are certain. Are the keepers revealed after the deadline passes? Would be good to know who is available in the draft after the keeper decisions have been made :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,335 ✭✭✭smackbunnybaby


    Coeus wrote: »
    Are the keepers revealed after the deadline passes? Would be good to know who is available in the draft after the keeper decisions have been made :)

    Keep them hidden! It will add to the drama ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭Iang87


    Oh i am excited


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,366 ✭✭✭✭8-10


    Will/can the draft work that whoever finished last last year gets first pick and the overall winner last year picks last? And then move forward like that?

    Or is it random?

    Also where did we fall on keepers? It was 6 but then I thought it increased to 8, now it seems to be 6 again. Can we not just meet in the middle and have 7 or something?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,335 ✭✭✭smackbunnybaby


    Hey guys,

    I want a few clarifications as well like 8-10.

    So how does this work?

    We have (maybe) 6 keepers. So does drafting start in round 7 for everyone?

    Or do you miss rounds where you kept a player and get to pick rounds where you gave up a player?

    I decide to keep my Round 1 draft , so I miss round 1
    I decied to give up my 3rd round player, so i pick in round 3?

    Yours
    Confused


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,296 ✭✭✭Coeus


    The draft setting for the keeper league is a live standard draft so my take on this is that we pick 6 keepers each and then start the draft with the remaining players with managers taking turns drafting players in a fixed back-and-forth snake format.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,049 ✭✭✭boccy23


    Yes Coeus. We "lose" the first 6 rounds based on keepers and start a random snake draft from there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭Iang87


    Hmmmi think I'm confusing myself but lets see.

    1. We select keepers
    2. Draft begins with pool of all non keepers
    3. team 1, team 2, team 3................... all select
    4. team 3, team 2, team 1................... then select.
    5. pick til roster fills


    The confusion is I dont understand this "losing of draft picks"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,747 ✭✭✭fisgon


    Iang87 wrote: »
    Hmmmi think I'm confusing myself but lets see.

    The confusion is I dont understand this "losing of draft picks"

    There is no losing of draft picks, as far as I understand it. This is one way of running a keeper league, that you lose the pick of the round in which you drafted each keeper, but as I see it we're not doing it that way.

    The way you outlined it above is the way it's going to go. It's a normal snake draft, just without the players who have been kept being available.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,335 ✭✭✭smackbunnybaby


    Thanks for all the clarifications guys.

    Just about to Finalize my keepers!
    everyone done theirs?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,366 ✭✭✭✭8-10


    Keepers finalized! I just hope there's enough decent players left to fill the massive gaps in some stats that I need.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,049 ✭✭✭boccy23


    Ok, from the suggestion by 8-10, I have decided to alter the draft slightly.
    I have set the draft order in reverse order to last years finishing positions.
    So the draft order will be as follows:
    Tolka Drakes
    Golden Nuggets
    Artful Dodgers
    HotBalls
    Seattle Seamonkeys
    Judean Peoples Front
    Homer's Homers
    K Kings
    Albuquerque Isotopes
    Henry Le Cheat III

    As a Keeper League, it makes more sense to set the draft order this way. It is still a snake draft, so Tolka will have pick 1 & 20 etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,296 ✭✭✭Coeus


    Has the keeper deadline past? I thought it was today but at midnight tonight. I was just attempting to pick my guys there and I see a message saying that it has past :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,049 ✭✭✭boccy23


    It was set for the 24th. As far I know it is midnight tonight. Will check it later when at home.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,296 ✭✭✭Coeus


    boccy23 wrote: »
    It was set for the 24th. As far I know it is midnight tonight. Will check it later when at home.
    Yea, I checked the settings and they say the deadline passed this morning at 7am :confused:

    Anyway I have been looking in the commish section of help and you have to finalize the picks so if you cant reopen the keeper selection. I'll send mine on via PM...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,049 ✭✭✭boccy23


    Yeah, deadline has passed. But PM me the 6 players and I can set these manually.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,296 ✭✭✭Coeus


    boccy23 wrote: »
    Yeah, deadline has passed. But PM me the 6 players and I can set these manually.
    PM sent. I would check that other teams in case anyone else missed the deadline. See everyone at the draft tommorrow evening...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,049 ✭✭✭boccy23


    Right lads. Keepers set and available Player List now shows who we can draft. Remember I have set the draft order in reverse of last years final standings.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭Iang87


    9pm tonight. 9.


    no confusion its 9 yes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,049 ✭✭✭boccy23


    9PM tonight.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭Iang87


    9 it is. final study of the team needs and i'm ready. I can feel it this is my year (as you can tell i'm a liverpool fan)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,296 ✭✭✭Coeus


    Iang87 wrote: »
    9 it is. final study of the team needs and i'm ready. I can feel it this is my year (as you can tell i'm a liverpool fan)
    Yes, I'm seeing 1 hour 15 mins until the start of the draft. My team needs are obvious, pitching, as all my keepers are batters...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,335 ✭✭✭smackbunnybaby


    Coeus wrote: »
    Yes, I'm seeing 1 hour 15 mins until the start of the draft. My team needs are obvious, pitching, as all my keepers are batters...

    ditto!
    I am in trouble though, the window isn't loading for me properly (mock draft). the green bar goes to about 90%
    And I have tested it loads of times on this computer as well!
    balls!
    If I dont make it in, you know why!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭Iang87


    already with the excuses tut tut. I must test my connection thing now too.

    Ok now that I know i'm not the only one going after pitching I have to readjust plan


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,296 ✭✭✭Coeus


    ditto!
    I am in trouble though, the window isn't loading for me properly (mock draft). the green bar goes to about 90%
    And I have tested it loads of times on this computer as well!
    balls!
    If I dont make it in, you know why!
    Draft will open 30 mins before the start so you'll have time to play around with the browsers before its starts. I used Firebox for a Yahoo live draft last week and had no probs...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,366 ✭✭✭✭8-10


    I'm pretty happy with that. There's 2 other teams that I'm pretty jealous of, but I do think this starting team is stronger than the one I finished 2011 with.

    EDIT: Woah. Looking down I just realised that I have 11 pitchers who posted under 2.75 ERA last year.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 5,014 Mod ✭✭✭✭GoldFour4


    I'm happy with my team. I think i can compete for it all this year hopefully ! I was hurt by injuries a lot last year !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,296 ✭✭✭Coeus


    Yea, it was a good draft. Great to see everyone there, it should be a good competative season. I have 3 players playing in Japan so the season starts for me on Wednesday morning :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 444 ✭✭brilliantboy


    I lost count of how many times I said to myself "Jesus, why is that guy still on the board? There must be something wrong with him" :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,335 ✭✭✭smackbunnybaby


    Not sure about my team.
    Took a good few gambles.
    Expect to change it up a good bit within the 1st month


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42 lankythecamel


    I had the first and last pick,the draft took just 63 minutes which was great last season I was in a public league it took over two hours!!!!!.Happy enough with my selections.:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,049 ✭✭✭boccy23


    Thanks to everyone for shpwing up for the draft last night. Really rattled through it.
    Sone very strong looking teams out these. First week opponents for me, Homers Homers look very strong.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭Iang87


    I cant believe I walked into Henry first game. Be gentle with me


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,366 ✭✭✭✭8-10


    Picked Bryce Harper and V-Mart off FA. Now that it's a keeper league and all! Slightly surprised both were available. Not sure it's wise using up a DL and BN spot for pretty much the entire season (Harper won't be up until July at the very earliest I reckon if at all), could probably have waited on Harper a few months.

    I guess it's early season excitement and I'm easily led by hype!


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