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Justice League **Spoilers from post 980 onward**

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,904 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    Having watched Justice League: Doom, I think Nathan Fillion could potentially make a good Green Lantern. Well, that and I just want to see him in more movies.

    I was never really interested in JL as I have zero interest in Superman but JL Doom sounds worth a watch for Nathan Fillion and Kevin Conroy alone. No way should JGL play Batman. He is a BRILLIANT actor but he just couldn't pull off Bats.

    Kevin Conroy has been the best portrayal of Batman, even though he has just been a voice for animated series and games, he pulls off the lines flawlessly. I don't think there has been a great representation of Batman on the big screen. Keating got closest to it though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,904 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    Also, I think of the film can be produce even 10% of what this trailer does, then this JL film could be something really special.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,320 ✭✭✭splashthecash


    He'll probably cast himself as Superman if he gets it...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    He'll probably cast himself as Superman if he gets it...

    he technically already played Superman in Hollywoodland :pac:

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,234 ✭✭✭Thwip!


    It has since been discredited by a rep for JGL, then again how often do we have actors vehemently denying their future role only to announce they have it mere days later


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,145 ✭✭✭TheIrishGrover


    Nah, I'd have been VERY surprised if he had done it. JGL has worked very hard at getting smart or slightly off-kilter roles. Even when he does his summer blockbusters like TDKR and Inception (and, to a lesser estent Looper which I only thought was "meh") they are top quality and not your typical dumb action blockbuster.
    Now I'm not saying that Justice League, if it ever actually goes ahead (Look how close it came a few years ago) will be dumb but it won't exactly be Christopher Nolan. That's not necessarily a bad thing. Not EVERYTHING has to be dark and gritty: The Avengers was one of my favourite movies this year and it was light and funny. I just think it would be a major step backwards for him.

    To be honest, I can't even see the film being made at all. 2015 they are talking about? Nah.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,680 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    Okay, sorry, but there's too many of these Justice League/Batman reboot threads floating around, so I've merged them all together. Batman will probably be rebooted in the Justice League film, so we can discuss that here as well. I'd imagine the next standalone Batman film is a good few years off anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,191 ✭✭✭✭RobbingBandit


    JGL changes his name to Robin, he won't play Batman at best he will play Nightwing, it is a potential clusterfcuk to consider him for Batman. I don't know why Nolan didn't put JGL in charge of the kids and Wayne Manor at the end of the film seeing as he was an orphan too, it could have led into a spin off or reboot with him becoming Nightwing or even Batman and one of the kids Robin.


  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,396 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    JGL changes his name to Robin, he won't play Batman at best he will play Nightwing, it is a potential clusterfcuk to consider him for Batman. I don't know why Nolan didn't put JGL in charge of the kids and Wayne Manor at the end of the film seeing as he was an orphan too, it could have led into a spin off or reboot with him becoming Nightwing or even Batman and one of the kids Robin.

    I guarantee we have seen the last of John Blake. Nolan has made it pretty clear imo that his films were a stand alone trilogy. When Batman gets rebooted it will be Bruce Wayne under the cowl, I will eat mine and every other poster in this forum's hat if they make John Blake Batman in another movie.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,370 ✭✭✭GAAman


    Mickeroo wrote: »
    I guarantee we have seen the last of John Blake. Nolan has made it pretty clear imo that his films were a stand alone trilogy. When Batman gets rebooted it will be Bruce Wayne under the cowl, I will eat mine and every other poster in this forum's hat if they make John Blake Batman in another movie.

    Well I know which hat I will be offering.....

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    :D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,940 ✭✭✭Corkfeen


    It would have been an awful rumour if it turned out to be true. :pac: There's one particular reason that they would never consider doing it, it would be like the studio treading on Nolan's work and I suspect studios wouldn't want to irritate and potentially lose such a big money maker.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,186 ✭✭✭Niles


    It would have been intriguing, but I'm kind of glad they've decided not to go with Gordon Joseph Levitt's Batman. It was a nice little twist to end the Nolan series on but I think for the purposes of Justice League it needs to be 'the real deal' - Bruce Wayne is as an important facet of the character as Batman himself.

    Having said that a 'Batman Beyond' type film might be intriguing... imagine if it had Michael Keaton playing an aged Bruce Wayne!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 865 ✭✭✭FlashD


    Why don't they just reboot Batman by making 'The Dark Knight Returns'

    ...perfect opportunity to bring back an older, crazier Keaton. :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,348 ✭✭✭✭ricero


    FlashD wrote: »
    Why don't they just reboot Batman by making 'The Dark Knight Returns'

    ...perfect opportunity to bring back an older, crazier Keaton. :pac:
    Id rather bale do that than keaton


  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,396 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    FlashD wrote: »
    Why don't they just reboot Batman by making 'The Dark Knight Returns'

    ...perfect opportunity to bring back an older, crazier Keaton. :pac:
    ricero wrote: »
    Id rather bale do that than keaton


    Funnily enough, though B&R was a crime against cinema and basically a smelly dump on the dreams of Batman fans everywhere I still reckon Clooney was a good choice for Batman. I think he'd be perfect has the grizzled old Bruce Wayne in Dark knight Returns movie.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 6,335 Mod ✭✭✭✭PerrinV2


    Talk of Darkseid being the villian,I'll try to find a concrete link

    *
    http://www.examiner.com/article/darkseid-the-main-villain-new-justice-league-movie
    Well I've never heard of latino review but there ya go


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,905 ✭✭✭✭Handsome Bob


    The more I hear the more I worry. I can already hear the Thanos rip off cries.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,731 ✭✭✭Bullseye1


    The hilarious thing is Jim Starlin based Thanos on Darkseid.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,115 ✭✭✭✭Nervous Wreck


    Hmmm, would probably prefer if they left Darkseid to a sequel. Start off slow and build it up towards him... But oh well!


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,566 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    Is Darkseid definite then? I hope they get Michael Ironside to do his voice.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,186 ✭✭✭Niles


    Is Darkseid definite then? I hope they get Michael Ironside to do his voice.

    Pity Bea Arthur is no longer with us, she'd make an excellent Granny Goodness!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,560 ✭✭✭✭Kess73


    FlashD wrote: »
    Why don't they just reboot Batman by making 'The Dark Knight Returns'

    ...perfect opportunity to bring back an older, crazier Keaton. :pac:


    The Dark Knight Rises already has scenes and plotlines lifted straight from The Dark Knight Returns.

    To do a faithful take on Returns they would end up with a hellof a lot of similarities with Nolan's Rises.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,234 ✭✭✭Thwip!


    Finished my dream cast and decided to put it all together

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,656 ✭✭✭norrie rugger


    Total nerd gasm splurt right there


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,905 ✭✭✭✭Handsome Bob


    Having rewatched Batman/Superman: Apocalypse, I have new hope for Darkseid as the villain. If they used WW, Big Barda and The Furies, that could offer an amazing female dynamic that The Avengers doesn't have.

    Imagine a JL film helmed by Snyder with battles between Batman/Darkseid, Superman/Darkseid, Wonder Woman/Big Barda, Wonder Woman/The Furies and a big free for all between Supes/Batman/GL/The Flash/WW and Darkseid/The Furies/Big Barda.

    That would be a tour de force that any action film would find difficult to contend with, never mind TA2.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,115 ✭✭✭✭Nervous Wreck


    Having rewatched Batman/Superman: Apocalypse, I have new hope for Darkseid as the villain. If they used WW, Big Barda and The Furies, that could offer an amazing female dynamic that The Avengers doesn't have.

    Imagine a JL film helmed by Snyder with battles between Batman/Darkseid, Superman/Darkseid, Wonder Woman/Big Barda, Wonder Woman/The Furies and a big free for all between Supes/Batman/GL/The Flash/WW and Darkseid/The Furies/Big Barda.

    That would be a tour de force that any action film would find difficult to contend with, never mind TA2.

    Apart from the word 'Snyder', I was right there with ya.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,905 ✭✭✭✭Handsome Bob


    Heh touche. :D I guess MOS will tell us a lot about his credentials.


  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,396 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    Looks like it's just going to be Bats, Supes, WW, GL & Flash in the movie, no Hawman/woman, Aquaman or Martian Manhunter then: http://latino-review.com/2013/01/24/exclusive-meet-final-5-members-justice-league-final-cut/

    Makes sense not to have too many characters and stick with the ones people will know for the first film I suppose.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,618 ✭✭✭Mr Freeze


    Definitely not going to get my hopes up for this. Just hope they don't mess up Batman, I care not for much of the others to be honest.

    I would prefer them to make a JL film without Bats, or give him a very minor role. Its fine seeing him an animated film with the rest of JL, but I can't see it working in live action.

    Would be delighted to be proved wrong, of course.


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  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,396 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    Mr Freeze wrote: »
    Definitely not going to get my hopes up for this. Just hope they don't mess up Batman, I care not for much of the others to be honest.

    I would prefer them to make a JL film without Bats, or give him a very minor role. Its fine seeing him an animated film with the rest of JL, but I can't see it working in live action.

    Would be delighted to be proved wrong, of course.

    Would be a disaster if they left him out imo.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,731 ✭✭✭Bullseye1


    I really need to pick that one up. Watched the fight sequence with WW and BB and it was amazing.


    Having rewatched Batman/Superman: Apocalypse, I have new hope for Darkseid as the villain. If they used WW, Big Barda and The Furies, that could offer an amazing female dynamic that The Avengers doesn't have.

    Imagine a JL film helmed by Snyder with battles between Batman/Darkseid, Superman/Darkseid, Wonder Woman/Big Barda, Wonder Woman/The Furies and a big free for all between Supes/Batman/GL/The Flash/WW and Darkseid/The Furies/Big Barda.

    That would be a tour de force that any action film would find difficult to contend with, never mind TA2.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,731 ✭✭✭Bullseye1


    I'm surprised they have not included Cyborg. It would have helped gain a wider audience in US.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,397 ✭✭✭✭Turtyturd


    Mr Freeze wrote: »
    Definitely not going to get my hopes up for this. Just hope they don't mess up Batman, I care not for much of the others to be honest.

    I would prefer them to make a JL film without Bats, or give him a very minor role. Its fine seeing him an animated film with the rest of JL, but I can't see it working in live action.

    Would be delighted to be proved wrong, of course.

    They won't mess him up but the Batman you will see in a Justice League movie will not be the Batman you are used to seeing in the recent movies. For me believing that these two versions are the same character has always been one of the problems with the DCU.

    As for leaving him out of the movie, when you have 3-4 characters at a stretch that non comic fans would recognise, and have two characters that are ingrained in the social conscious around the world, leaving one of them out would be a stupid move.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,207 ✭✭✭maximoose


    Rumours Bats won't be in it at all
    Christopher Nolan's Dark Knight Trilogy may be over, but that does not mean that Batman has been forgotten. Audiences can not get enough of superheroes, and even though Man of Steel arrives in theaters soon, fans are still looking forward to more Batman. Unfortunately, fans will not be seeing the Caped Crusader in the highly anticipated Justice League movie in 2015. According to Batman-on-Film, DC is not planning to have Bruce Wayne appear on screen again until 2017!

    This is still technically a rumor, and no official announcement has been made from Warner Bros. The studio may be trying to give Superman a chance to dominate the box office for a few years, or they could be focusing efforts on an animated Batman. I can see the point in not wanting to have Batman back on the big screen so soon after The Dark Knight Rises, but if there is enough fan interest anything is possible.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,922 ✭✭✭McLoughlin


    http://www.digitalspy.ie/movies/news/a453271/batman-movie-reboot-for-2017-release-date.html

    Says
    Warner Bros is expected to introduce its next on-screen incarnation of the Caped Crusader in 2015's Justice League, which has been tipped to serve as a launch vehicle for a slate of solo movies.

    I can't see Batman been left out but its going to take Batman in an interesting direction for the next decade of so.




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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,186 ✭✭✭Niles


    It's messy, but I'd rather see the next Batman solo outing have to wait than have one rushed for the sake of getting it out before Justice League.

    As for leaving him out of Justice League, not sure about this, I think he and Supes are needed to sell it to a general audience. Otherwise it will just come across as 'Superman & Friends'.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,940 ✭✭✭Corkfeen


    I'd suspect that a justice league film wouldn't work half as well without Batman and Supes being completely at odds with each other in terms of their ideals and leadership.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,207 ✭✭✭maximoose




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,515 ✭✭✭tupac_healy


    maximoose wrote: »

    TBH I can only see that as the way forward, anytging else will just not attract the audience, Warner Bros would be mad not to beg Bale to Reprise the role


  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,396 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    I'd rather they just recast someone else as Bruce/Bats.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,320 ✭✭✭splashthecash


    maximoose wrote: »

    This would be a very clever move on the part of WB - would be as close a guarantee of a box office smash as they could get.

    i already loved the look of man of steel, throw a teaser of bale into the mix and the prospect of a movie together and im putty in your hands


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,145 ✭✭✭TheIrishGrover


    maximoose wrote: »
    I'll believe it when I see the trailer. Would be great but I just can't see it happening.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,515 ✭✭✭tupac_healy



    This would be a very clever move on the part of WB - would be as close a guarantee of a box office smash as they could get.

    i already loved the look of man of steel, throw a teaser of bale into the mix and the prospect of a movie together and im putty in your hands

    Exactlt! If someone else was cast as bats I doubt there would be much putty floating about!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,603 ✭✭✭IncognitoMan


    Does this mean Ryan Reynolds is going to continue as Green Lantern?


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Oh lord, my first instinct is to casually dismiss this as mere tattle and overactive fanboy imagination, because if it were true it would effectively undermine all the arcs, journeys and themes of the batman trilogy.

    Whatever about the ins and outs of just how "realistic" they were, the batman films were self-contained in a world without magic and the fantastic. If suddenly it turns out that Supes, Zod and the rest of the gang were knocking around all this time, I think it cheapens a lot of what happened to Gotham city, to the point where it all becomes a little meaningless. The battle for Gothams soul doesn't add up to much if superman could have saved them


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,603 ✭✭✭IncognitoMan


    Looking at the trailers for man of steel it looks as though superman has to hide his powers because the world has not seen anything like it before so that could suggest that it is set in a similar universe to batman.

    Superman could only beginning now while batman has retired. That would explain why superman wasn't around to save Gotham.

    Maybe at the end of man of steel we will see zod retreating and vowing to return to defeat superman, Bruce would be aware of this and this might force him out of retirement and the formation of the justice league


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Looking at the trailers for man of steel it looks as though superman has to hide his powers because the world has not seen anything like it before so that could suggest that it is set in a similar universe to batman.

    Superman could only beginning now while batman has retired. That would explain why superman wasn't around to save Gotham.

    Maybe at the end of man of steel we will see zod retreating and vowing to return to defeat superman, Bruce would be aware of this and this might force him out of retirement and the formation of the justice league

    Perhaps, I guess we'll know more about Supermans world soon enough, but even the potentiality of magic and fantasy in batmans world (which, let's be honest, is what Superman is all about) undercuts a lot of what happened in Gotham.

    I always saw the Dark Knight films as crime epics more than superhero films - Heat with capes almost - and it potentially undermines Bruces struggle if ultimately a bit of convenient hoodoo could have saved the day instead of hardship and toil.


  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,396 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    pixelburp wrote: »

    Perhaps, I guess we'll know more about Supermans world soon enough, but even the potentiality of magic and fantasy in batmans world (which, let's be honest, is what Superman is all about) undercuts a lot of what happened in Gotham.

    I always saw the Dark Knight films as crime epics more than superhero films - Heat with capes almost - and it potentially undermines Bruces struggle if ultimately a bit of convenient hoodoo could have saved the day instead of hardship and toil.

    Even setting aside the fantasy/sci-fi aspects it would completely undermine the ending and Bruce's character arch over the course of the trilogy.

    I'm calling bs on the rumour for that reason alone.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,731 ✭✭✭Bullseye1


    I just hope Nolan is not responsible for casting WW, he would probably pick Maggie Gyllenhaal LOL.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,905 ✭✭✭✭Handsome Bob


    In fairness he hired some fine wimmin for TDKR. :pac::pac:


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