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Tesla Model 3 thread - V2.0

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  • #202
    smokybacon
    Registered Users Posts: 188 ✭✭smokybacon


    hatrack wrote: »
    The what?!

    I used it in the other office. Gave it to the intern, the nice new English girl, gave a lend of it on 1st May. Thought would get it following week, no mid May,

    Wait there one more week,

    Let me see.

    $35000
    Add Import duty /
    Add vat /
    Add vrt
    /exchange rate translated to say €49000?
    Add expensive electrician,
    Add second most expensive electricity in EU.
    = EIRE


  • #203
    Sabre Man
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,029 ✭✭✭Sabre Man


    Navigate on Autopilot is now available in Ireland.


  • #204
    unkel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65,716 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    Sabre Man wrote: »
    Navigate on Autopilot is now available in Ireland.

    Which cars get this?

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  • #205
    Slaanesh
    Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 1,863 Mod ✭✭✭✭Slaanesh


    AP 2.0+ equipped cars I think.


  • #206
    hatrack
    Registered Users Posts: 256 ✭✭hatrack


    unkel wrote: »
    Which cars get this?

    All cars with Enhanced Autopilot (which is no longer available to purchase) and those with Full Self Driving.

    Frustrating that we’re still waiting for the configurator a month after it went live in the UK.

    Based on Elon’s leaked email it won’t make much difference whether it opens tomorrow or in another four weeks - looks like they are fully focused on delivering as many cars as possible for Q2 so no reason for them to complicate things by running off more RHD. There may be around 300 RHD heading to the UK but that will be all until July.

    Once the end of quarter rush is done we should see them produce a decent number of RHD cars.


  • #207
    Sabre Man
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,029 ✭✭✭Sabre Man


    Slaanesh wrote: »
    AP 2.0+ equipped cars I think.

    I think this is correct.


  • #208
    hatrack
    Registered Users Posts: 256 ✭✭hatrack


    Sabre Man wrote: »
    I think this is correct.

    AP3 cars that only have basic Autopilot do not get it.


  • #209
    unkel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65,716 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    A bit confusing still. So:

    AP1 - no
    AP2 - yes
    AP2.5 - no unless FSD was bought
    AP3 - no unless FSD was bought

    ?

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  • #210
    hatrack
    Registered Users Posts: 256 ✭✭hatrack


    unkel wrote: »
    A bit confusing still. So:

    AP1 - no
    AP2 - yes
    AP2.5 - no unless FSD was bought
    AP3 - no unless FSD was bought

    ?

    Almost.

    AP1 - no.
    AP2 - yes if Enhanced Autopilot was purchased.
    AP2.5 - yes if Enhanced Autopilot was purchased.
    AP3 - yes if Full Self Driving was purchased.


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  • #211
    Dont be at yourself
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,586 ✭✭✭✭Dont be at yourself


    Has anybody tested it? Curious to see how it copes on Irish roads with Irish drivers.


  • #212
    alexpowermetal
    Registered Users Posts: 42 ✭alexpowermetal


    Don't know how Navigate On Autopilot will work on Irish road, but new EU regulations makes Autopilot crap and very frustrating to use.


  • #213
    Sabre Man
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,029 ✭✭✭Sabre Man


    alexpowermetal wrote: »
    Don't know how Navigate On Autopilot will work on Irish road, but new EU regulations makes Autopilot crap and very frustrating to use.

    That's not my experience. Where did you drive?


  • #214
    alexpowermetal
    Registered Users Posts: 42 ✭alexpowermetal


    Sabre Man wrote: »
    That's not my experience. Where did you drive?

    I don't own Tesla.
    Just saw video on YouTube from Tesla Driver.
    Problem with Navigate On Autopilot is that car has to make lane change within 5 seconds frop when you indicate. If there is car on adjacent lane, tesla will usually wait for car to pass and then make lane change, but now it cancel after 5 seconds.


  • #215
    hatrack
    Registered Users Posts: 256 ✭✭hatrack


    Sabre Man wrote: »
    That's not my experience. Where did you drive?

    It changed on the last update, some time around the beginning of May. UN regulations (which have been adopted in the EU) have limited the amount the steering wheel can turn (amongst other things).


  • #216
    Sabre Man
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,029 ✭✭✭Sabre Man


    Autopilot still works well even on fairly sharp bends. In time I think it will improve as the car learns to slow down.

    I haven't tried NoA yet but I will this weekend. I can imagine that the 5 second lane change restriction can be a bit annoying in heavy traffic but all you have to do is (hopefully) just wait for a suitable opening like you normally would.


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  • #217
    goob20s
    Registered Users Posts: 138 ✭✭goob20s


    Configurator opened up!!


  • #218
    goob20s
    Registered Users Posts: 138 ✭✭goob20s


    47840 euro for sr+ with no extras. Too pricey for me


  • #219
    AidenL
    Registered Users Posts: 983 ✭✭✭AidenL


    goob20s wrote: »
    47840 euro for sr+ with no extras. Too pricey for me

    Very different from the configuration in other countries in the way you configure a Performance model.

    No white interior available, no 19” wheels option, no PCP, same as UK currently.


  • #220
    hatrack
    Registered Users Posts: 256 ✭✭hatrack


    AidenL wrote: »
    Very different from the configuration in other countries in the way you configure a Performance model.

    No white interior available, no 19” wheels option, no PCP, same as UK currently.

    It seems you can order the stealth performance, i.e. the performance “engine” but without the red brake callipers and 20 inch wheels.

    Only black interior hopefully means they will just run off a load of cars in various colours and fill the orders quickly.

    July is estimated delivery date.


  • #221
    hatrack
    Registered Users Posts: 256 ✭✭hatrack


    AidenL wrote: »
    Very different from the configuration in other countries in the way you configure a Performance model.

    No white interior available, no 19” wheels option, no PCP, same as UK currently.

    You can get 19 inch wheels. Need to tick the performance upgrade option.

    EDIT: Sorry, I’m mixing up 19 and 20 inch wheels. You’re right it seems it’s aero or Performance upgrade package for now.


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  • #222
    JohnnyJohnJohns
    Registered Users Posts: 310 ✭✭JohnnyJohnJohns


    goob20s wrote: »
    47840 euro for sr+ with no extras. Too pricey for me

    When you go to the next page, on estimated savings it lists the 5k SEAI grant. That puts it at 42840 of in reading it right (still pricey but competitive for the range)


  • #223
    hatrack
    Registered Users Posts: 256 ✭✭hatrack


    JohnnyJohnJohns wrote: »
    When you go to the next page, on estimated savings it lists the 5k SEAI grant. That puts it at 42840 of in reading it right (still pricey but competitive for the range)

    The €47,840 includes the SEAI grant.


  • #224
    goob20s
    Registered Users Posts: 138 ✭✭goob20s


    JohnnyJohnJohns wrote: »
    When you go to the next page, on estimated savings it lists the 5k SEAI grant. That puts it at 42840 of in reading it right (still pricey but competitive for the range)
    I hope you're right. I thought the 48000 price was with seai off already


  • #225
    Villain
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,951 ✭✭✭✭Villain


    That is going to price it out of a lot of people’s range. An awful lot of car options for 48k


  • #226
    SachaJ
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,746 ✭✭✭SachaJ


    Also I believe it brings it outside the 0% BIK threshold for company cars


  • #227
    Petetheroadie
    Registered Users Posts: 399 ✭✭Petetheroadie


    goob20s wrote: »
    I hope you're right. I thought the 48000 price was with desi off already

    Yeah, the pricing is confusing alright...


  • #228
    hatrack
    Registered Users Posts: 256 ✭✭hatrack


    Petetheroadie wrote: »
    Yeah, the pricing is confusing alright...

    The €48k includes the SEAI grant. See attached. €48k is the price you pay.


  • #229
    SachaJ
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,746 ✭✭✭SachaJ


    They should remove that gasoline savings. Very misleading.


  • #230
    CFC007
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 837 ✭✭✭CFC007


    Have stuck in a cancellation request. Will see now how long it takes now to get money back. As predicted having a reservation meant nothing in the end!


  • #231
    Markjsca1
    Registered Users Posts: 235 ✭✭Markjsca1


    Just ordered SR+, Midnight Silver, didn't go for FSD. Estimated delivery date is July.

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  • #232
    Slaanesh
    Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 1,863 Mod ✭✭✭✭Slaanesh


    Markjsca1 wrote: »
    Just ordered SR+, Midnight Silver, didn't go for FSD. Estimated delivery date is July.

    Exactly what I was gonna order but the wife won't let me!

    I'd say Jan 2020 ... if I'm lucky.


  • #233
    ted1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,655 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    hatrack wrote: »
    The €48k includes the SEAI grant. See attached. €48k is the price you pay.

    That after savings pricing is ridiculous and needs to be stopped


  • #234
    slave1
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,192 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    You can't even select the LR model


  • #235
    Zenith74
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 755 ✭✭✭Zenith74


    SachaJ wrote: »
    Also I believe it brings it outside the 0% BIK threshold for company cars

    It's more of an exemption than a threshold. You'll still pay 0% BIK on the first €50k of the Model 3, you'll just pay some BIK on anything over €50k. So it's still a very attractive tax break.


  • #236
    Slaanesh
    Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 1,863 Mod ✭✭✭✭Slaanesh


    slave1 wrote: »
    You can't even select the LR model

    Yeah you're right! Looks like our market has been heavily gimped. Can't choose white interior. Have to go performance pack upgrade for 20" wheels etc.


  • #237
    Munurty
    Registered Users Posts: 176 ✭✭Munurty


    SachaJ wrote: »
    Also I believe it brings it outside the 0% BIK threshold for company cars

    Anybody buying through a company?
    My understanding is first 50k is BIK exempt and the balance over 50k is subject to BIK.

    If my BIK calculations are correct I'll order a performance in silver.


  • #238
    Old diesel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,821 ✭✭✭Old diesel


    Sabre Man wrote: »
    Navigate on Autopilot is now available in Ireland.

    Apparently EU regulation reduces it's effectiveness hugely.


  • #239
    mloc123
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,454 ✭✭✭mloc123


    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=106508491&postcount=1348

    I guess Tesla do apply "Paddy tax" :)


  • #240
    Zenith74
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 755 ✭✭✭Zenith74


    Munurty wrote: »
    Anybody buying through a company?
    My understanding is first 50k is BIK exempt and the balance over 50k is subject to BIK.

    If my BIK calculations are correct I'll order a performance in silver.

    You can also claim back a small portion of the VAT. And you can write off the full value in the first year through the ACA programme, which is great if the company is turning a profit.


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  • #241
    smokybacon
    Registered Users Posts: 188 ✭✭smokybacon


    Munurty wrote: »
    Anybody buying through a company?
    My understanding is first 50k is BIK exempt and the balance over 50k is subject to BIK.

    If my BIK calculations are correct I'll order a performance in silver.

    Ordered. Wondering bout how to get out of business after 3 yrs! Will cross that bridge.

    Vrt total is 8k.

    Still great deal though.

    Obviously big batch of rhd with uk ship delivery.

    Question: is 5.6 zero to 100km same as 5.3 zero to 60mph??? And the top speed and range equal?


  • #242
    Zenith74
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 755 ✭✭✭Zenith74


    Slaanesh wrote: »
    Yeah you're right! Looks like our market has been heavily gimped. Can't choose white interior. Have to go performance pack upgrade for 20" wheels etc.

    Same for the UK, quite possible they're trying to reduce the number of different models they need to make for RHD. So LR might appear at some stage...


  • #243
    maclek
    Registered Users Posts: 297 ✭✭maclek


    Was looking to get a dual motor not performance, would have stretched to a performance but no white interior is a hard pass for me. I bought my leaf 40 early and slightly regret it, not making that mistake again.


  • #244
    catharsis
    Registered Users Posts: 312 ✭✭catharsis


    well as a reservation holder since April 2016 that's pretty disappointing.

    1. no white interior available in this country no matter what model you select.
    2. the LR car is not available in single or dual motor specs
    3. having a reservation made zero difference to delivery date.

    I presume there is also no 'off-book' ordering from Sandyford?


  • #245
    catharsis
    Registered Users Posts: 312 ✭✭catharsis


    maclek wrote: »
    Was looking to get a dual motor not performance, would have stretched to a performance but no white interior is a hard pass for me. I bought my leaf 40 early and slightly regret it, not making that mistake again.

    basically exactly my thinking (albeit don't regret the leaf SVE purchase, but the launch edition was not great)

    it never even crossed my mind that they would NOT make an LR model available - and I have zero interest in a performance.


  • #246
    unkel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65,716 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    €48k is disappointing although it is the on the road price. Did anyone ring Tesla Sandyford to find out how much a base model (off menu) is on the road? About €45-€46k? Without AP (which used to be an option) that would compare to about €43-€44k? If so that would be pretty much in line with what most of us predicted in this thread all that time ago. Delivery this summer is better than most of us predicted
    smokybacon wrote: »
    Question: is 5.6 zero to 100km same as 5.3 zero to 60mph??? And the top speed and range equal?

    Yeah 60mph = 96km/h so 5.6 to 100km/h is about right. I'm sure they have made no changes to the car so top speed and range are all the same world wide.

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  • #247
    Dagryl
    Registered Users Posts: 40 ✭Dagryl


    So how much BIK would I have to pay on base Model 3? 8,900?


  • #248
    maclek
    Registered Users Posts: 297 ✭✭maclek


    catharsis wrote: »
    basically exactly my thinking (albeit don't regret the leaf SVE purchase, but the launch edition was not great)

    it never even crossed my mind that they would NOT make an LR model available - and I have zero interest in a performance.


    Yeah I have a launch edition, crappy sound system, no heated seats. First world problems. :)


    I also requested a reservation refund, once (if?) the white interior becomes available I can put the whole lot through the company.


  • #249
    alexpowermetal
    Registered Users Posts: 42 ✭alexpowermetal


    maclek wrote: »
    Was looking to get a dual motor not performance, would have stretched to a performance but no white interior is a hard pass for me. I bought my leaf 40 early and slightly regret it, not making that mistake again.

    They basically made the LR AND P cars the same car. You have the option to turn LR AWD into a P car for 4400+ taxes


  • #250
    Mec-a-nic
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 407 ✭✭Mec-a-nic


    It should be pretty easy to gauge immediate takeup in Ireland by looking at the invoice number - 4075A00000000XX

    My XX is under 30 so not many people buying, <squints>, €50k cars in the past 4 hours...


  • #251
    dingledosser
    Registered Users Posts: 450 ✭✭dingledosser


    When I go to place my order, there's no mention of the €1000 reservation deposit I've already paid. I'm logged in. Any idea what's up before I call Sandyford?


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