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Tesla Model S

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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,197 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    Any signs of progress on the SFord SuC? I'm up there next week, a chunking sound coming from front suspension which is known on the S and X



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,197 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    Rear tyres on a 85 model, any recommendations?

    Sides of tyre fine but worn in centre which points to over inflating but I check it every few weeks and always have around 44psi versus 45psi recommendation



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,231 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    I went with michelin pilot sport 4 as it was what was on the car. I'd just replace like with like unless there was cheap chinese tires on it or i had specific concerns



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,197 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    Previous owner had different makes front and back so I think I'll replace back with what's on the front to match up, bit annoyed at the over inflating though when I've been sticking to recommended pressure



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    What make of tyres are they out of interest? I don't think I have ever heard that happening with modern good quality tyres. The opposite can still happen (shoulder wear) though if your tyres are seriously uninflated.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,197 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    Good Years, don't know exactly, car in Sandyford at minute looking at a few warranty issues



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83 ✭✭Vinnymcdonnell


    Picked up a Model S there and already planning the upgrades such as the powered froot/frunk and CCS upgrade. Have a M3 performance also, but the S will be more so the wifes car as we needed the extra space. Pretty happy with it must say.

    Just have to wait on the logbook now to get the app working and check if it really does have the free supercharging was told it apparently has!

    Delighted it has the ventilated seats though, real nice thing to have in the warmer months and seems to be a rare thing in them!




  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,197 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    Your logbook won’t tell you anything re free SuC, just rock up to a SuC and plug in is the only way. In the car itself under the charging menu it should say “no recent Supercharging” under the Supercharging menu, this also means free SuC. Best of luck with it



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83 ✭✭Vinnymcdonnell


    I know the logbook wont, but cannot add it to my cars on the Tesla account until it comes which will have the spec and if the Supercharging is on if there



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65,725 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    For anyone interested in not paying silly Tesla prices for basic maintenance: I just had my front brake pads and brake disks (Brembo - I saw the box) replaced by my local garage on my P85. Total cost €450 incl. labour. Tesla charge near double this for a standard Model S. Don't know if the performance uses the same disks as the standard or bigger ones.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,197 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    In the meantime your car will also tell you as above, look for "no Recent Supercharging".

    Tesla can and do withdraw free SuC for any car that makes it's way back to them via CPO sales anywhere along the line. I have free SuC but if I traded into Tesla for say, a Model 3 then Tesla would remove the free SuC



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,231 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    You can either get the prior owner to check if it has SC01 on their portal, or wait.

    Other clues are the "no recent supercharging" in the MCU but this is not 100% accurate. Plenty of cars from 2017-2019 were sold with free but non transferable supercharging. In order to have free transferable supercharging the car needed to be delivered before Q2 2017. If you have a car delivered from April 2017 onwards the free supercharging is not transferable. If it's a 172 plate, it is not transferable (unless it was a showroom model sold by Tesla themselves, these unicorns exist).

    It's possible to buy a 2019 car that shows "no recent supercharging" and the currentowner has free supercharging, however the act of adding it to your account removes the free supercharging.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,231 ✭✭✭✭ELM327




  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,197 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    LOL, €242 more expensive for Tesla to replace two tyres than locally (Michelin Primacy 3 Tesla spec with foam inserts on both quotes)

    Setting aside the Tesla Vs Local, are the Tesla spec really worth the differential over say, OEM Michelin Primacy 3s?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65,725 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    LOL!


    Why??? For an out of warranty car? They both use the exact same parts (not made by Tesla), the parts are fitted by qualified mechanics. There is zero difference.


    If you want to overpay Tesla, why don't you just transfer some money into their bank? 😂



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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,197 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    Oh, I agree, I won't be using Tesla for tyres.

    Anyhow, any comments on tyres ye guys are running on?



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,797 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    I had Pirelli P-Zero on my P85+.

    Found them good but were prone to the front wheel crabbing on small tight turns and over surface changes. Seems to be a common Tesla issue with the 21" wheels and it was also present in some Porsches depending on the choice of tyre.


    On my current P90DL, also with the 21" wheels, i have Continential Contisport 5p (T0). If find them good, better than the Pirelli but i only have them on since August so the difference could simply be the newer car and new tyres etc


    Personally speaking, i dont find a huge difference between most of the top branded tyres. I have Nexen on my 520d and i find them one of the best tyres ive ever used!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65,725 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    Never knew the word for it, but my car has that really badly in winter. When I reverse out of my driveway in the cold first thing in the morning with steering fully locked to the left, you get a horrible feeling and noise, as if the tyre is falling off the rim. Crabbing, is that what you call it?


    I'll check in a minute exactly what front tyres I have. I really want that gone with the next set of front tyres I will buy :-(



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,197 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    I have exact same issue, why my car is in Sandyford right now



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65,725 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    Michelin Primacy 245/45r19 on all 4 corners. I'm pretty sure these were OEM tyres in the UK when my car was new.


    Don't even bother mentioning it to Tesla, slave1. They'll tell you it's a feature of the car, LOL. Well I guess it's not their fault if it can be fixed by changing the OEM tyre to a different one.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,870 ✭✭✭✭mfceiling


    To be fair to Tesla my wife had an A7 and it used to do that as well. You'd reverse out in the morning and on full lock you thought the tyre had come off the rim. Fierce annoying.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,197 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    Well I just checked my rears with a tyre gauge and the rears need replacing, they are Good Year Eagle F1 Asymmetric 5

    On the front I have same on the Passenger side and a Primacy 3 on the Drivers side which is annoying, I'd look to change all 4 but the depth of the fronts are 4/5/5 inside to out so they are too good to replace (my brain tells me)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65,725 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    You could try and find a part worn from a quality supplier (that x-ray them) to match either of the fronts?

    Either that or fork out for 4 tyres. Two different tyres on the same axle is a complete no-no to me, even though it's not the driven wheels.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,797 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Yeah that’s it.

    tesla checked over mine last year. They said it was a characteristic of the car, highlighted even further by the 21” wheels and the Pirelli tyres which are not OEM. One of the lads on the Tesla FB group had the same issue too.


    really noticeably on full lock and coming down off a slight kerb pr going from one surface to another.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65,725 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    Yes there is a big manhole cover on the road that the front right wheel goes over when it happens. Could very well be the chance of surface you mention.


    Tesla also told me it was "a feature" of the car


    I would love if that feature would disappear if I get a different make / model of tyre next time. Any ideas on this?



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,197 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    I'm going to get all 4 corners replaced, my preference is Michelin Primacy 4 acoustics.

    I'll let you know if the crabbing disappears.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,197 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    After rakes of phoning around and looking online, going with these guys

    770604_fcs_en.pdf (tyrelabelling.eu)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65,725 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    How much you getting them for delivered? I guess add €15 to that per corner for fitting, balancing and recycling your old tyres in your local tyre shop?



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,197 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    Marginally more expensive to get at local tyre shop so I couldn't be arsed in ordering myself and taking to them to do (€20/corner) so just getting local place to do it all, €1040 all in.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65,725 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    Let us know about the crabbing! If I'm to invest another grand in the car, I want to make sure it doesn't do that 😁



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83 ✭✭Vinnymcdonnell


    Logbook arrived yesterday so was able to add the car to my account, Happy days it does have the free supercharging! Also have it booked in for MCU2 upgrade and while there they will also be fitting HW3 computer and the CCS Charging



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,342 ✭✭✭markpb


    Did the car come with FSD, is that why they're fitting HW3?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,231 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    +1

    They won't fit HW3 unless you've (or the previous owner/s) paid for FSD. Not just subscription but the full chunk upfront. Otherwise it's just the MCU that changes.

    If you have AP2 /2.5 hardware then for me it's worth paying for FSD to get the HW3 fitted. It's a big leap forward from 2/2.5



  • Registered Users Posts: 286 ✭✭BobbyBingo


    Afflicted by this issue too and really noticeable now that the temp has dropped in the last few weeks. Will be super interested to see if the Primacy 4 tyres are the answer. I have Primacy 3's 245/45R19s and the 'crabbing' is awful.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,797 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    The colder temp make it more noticeable alright.

    I'm noticing it now on the OEM Continential Tyres too. Its just something you'll have to live with.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,197 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    This is all a bit strange, had the car well over a year and only happening now.

    In my case the variant is worn tyres



  • Registered Users Posts: 286 ✭✭BobbyBingo


    Grrrr! More first world problems !

    Dear BobbyBingo

    We’re contacting you regarding the timing of your Model S order. As we ramp up production, launch timings for markets outside North America have been delayed. We will further update you on delivery timings through your Tesla Account as the production of your Model S approaches. In order to expedite delivery of existing orders, including your Model S order, as much as possible we will for now no longer accept new orders for Model S and Model X in markets outside North America. Your Model S will continue to adhere to the price at the date of ordering unless you modify your vehicle configuration. If you would like to apply your Order Fee to a different model or receive a full refund, request a call to speak directly with a Tesla Advisor. We apologise for any inconvenience this may have caused.

    Best Regards,

    The Tesla Team 



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,342 ✭✭✭markpb


    It's probably good news for existing S/X owners who are looking to sell in the next few years. Supply of second-hand Teslas was already low anyway, Brexit made it worse and this will take the bottom out of the market completely.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,197 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    End of Midlife Tesla models will hold value very well, I'm talking the LR ones not ones tagged 100D etc.

    The new interior is a bit Marmite for an existing S owner, I can see many jumping ship to alternative makes especially if the SuC opened up.

    I would not (cost aside) buy the new S with just the single screen and instrument stick eliminations, i really like the screen behind the wheel and the larger screen in current S and portrait mode



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,231 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    I'm not really for or against the new interior. What would hold me off buying a new S/X is the supercharger network opening up or not. If it opens up then I'd be more likely to choose a BMW iX, or a Taycan/etronGT etc than a Tesla. Tesla loses its USP.

    Assuming the network is opened up, the only Tesla I'd be interested in would be an older S/X with free supercharging, a used P100DL model X, or the cybertruck I have on order. IE the base attraction to "any tesla" i had as a former fanboy is gone and its only the niche products I'd be interested in.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,874 ✭✭✭garo


    Late to this. It may well have been more than 15 minutes as I was in a meeting. So maybe just felt like 15 mins. But trust me I have a pre-facelift and it cost me 181 all in. I can email you the receipt if you want 😜



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,874 ✭✭✭garo


    Not sue if you got yours already. I went with Michelin Pilot Sport 4 when I got my rears replaced earlier this year. Pretty happy with those.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65,725 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    Cheers for the update garo. I think I will let Tesla do the job so when the time comes, not going to spend several hours trying to get that old battery out myself 😂



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,197 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    Deposit paid, on order, so I'll stick with the Primacy 4's as lower rolling resistance and quieter (on paper anyhow)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,874 ✭✭✭garo


    Yeah I was seriously considering both Primacy 4 and Pilot Sport 4. The acoustic foam has divided opinions with many people saying it's not worth the premium. But tbh I don't think it really matters. I paid 510 for the rears at the local shop with them buying and installing.

    If it makes you feel any better my car came with a mix of Primacy3 and and the Goodyear Eagle A/S 5s. I still have one of each on the front. Doesn't bother me and I haven't noticed anything untoward. And no crabbing here either even though we have a tight right and reverse to get out of the driveway.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65,725 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    Saw that last night. The door handle is pretty desperate. Not sure how he didn't spot the missing boot cover. He must have accepted the car without even opening the boot. That's just dumb. It's his 4th Tesla, you'd think he would know at this stage to have a good look around and check all is well. Mind any of those issues will be sorted by Tesla without quibble under warranty of course.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,197 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    I think there's a separate thread for the Plaid because it really is a different beast. I also follow Will on YT, he's out there, gone from living in a van to falling over with money so that Plaid was bought from less than one months income, good luck to him.

    That door though, that's bad, that constant wirring/clicking was a Gen 2 trait which they don't make anymore so is a bit confusing.

    There is an excellent Tesla Door handle Gen 1 - 3 and the improvements they have made so I'd say poor ole Will is an outlier in terms of handle failure.

    As Unkel says, Tesla will replace it on his driveway straight away, mine failed a few months back at the weekend and I reported it on Monday and they replaced it on my driverway with Gen 3 on the Wednesday.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,197 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    So the Primacy 4 (acoustics) were fitted a few minutes ago, very short drive home and no crabbing when I was hard lock reversing into driveway (this was the worst place it constantly happened)



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,197 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    Oh, and no noticeable "noise" difference, think was within 2db of previous tyres



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