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Antisemitism rising sharply across Europe
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re-reg wrote:Or evil old George Soros?
Does the coincidental fact of being Jewish automatically make a person above legitimate criticism for using their money to interfere in the internal politics of other democratic countries?
I didn't even know Soros was Jewish until recently, just that he's a wealthy individual who uses his money to fund political movements outside his own country of residence. Regardless of a person's ethnic heritage, most people find that kind of behaviour uncomfortable at the very least. It's no different to the very legitimate condemnation of wealthy American conservatives bankrolling the anti-equality and anti-abortion movements here during our two recent referenda, from funding the groups themselves to block-buying YouTube ads commenting on a democratic vote taking place in someone else's country.
Does being Jewish mean a person can do this and be immune to others calling them anti-democratic assholes for doing so?
Nicholas Sarkozy has (that I know of) no Jewish heritage whatsoever, and I and many others roundly condemned him, repeatedly, for his attempts to interfere in Irish democracy by vocally demanding we overturn our Lisbon referendum result and threatening to block various things at the EU level unless we did. Are you suggesting that if he had been a Jew, this criticism would suddenly have been "anti semitic" even though his Jewish heritage and the fact that he thought he had the right to tell a democratic electorate which way to vote would have still been two completely unrelated and separate facts?
George Soros happens to be Jewish. He also happens to be using his wealth in an attempt to influence politics in countries he neither resides in nor hails from. These two sentences have absolutely nothing to do with eachother, but the latter is 100% something which makes him absolutely worthy of being called a scumbag.
The Koch Brothers, to my knowledge, have absolutely no Jewish heritage whatsoever, and yet are constantly condemned by the left for the same reasons Soros is condemned by the right. Trying to use Soros' Jewish heritage as a deflective shield against criticism of the fact that he's a rich individual who attempts to undermine democracy with money, is exactly the reason so many people don't take accusations of anti-semitism seriously anymore.0 -
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hatrickpatrick wrote: »Does the coincidental fact of being Jewish automatically make a person above legitimate criticism for using their money to interfere in the internal politics of other democratic countries? I didn't even know Soros was Jewish until recently, just that he's a wealthy individual who uses his money to fund political movements outside his own country of residence. Regardless of a person's ethnic heritage, most people find that kind of behaviour uncomfortable at the very least. It's no different to the very legitimate condemnation of wealthy American conservatives bankrolling the anti-equality and anti-abortion movements here during our two recent referenda, from funding the groups themselves to block-buying YouTube ads commenting on a democratic vote taking place in someone else's country.
Does being Jewish mean a person can do this and be immune to others calling them anti-democratic assholes for doing so?
Nicholas Sarkozy has (that I know of) no Jewish heritage whatsoever, and I and many others roundly condemned him, repeatedly, for his attempts to interfere in Irish democracy by vocally demanding we overturn our Lisbon referendum result and threatening to block various things at the EU level unless we did. Are you suggesting that if he had been a Jew, this criticism would suddenly have been "anti semitic" even though his Jewish heritage and the fact that he thought he had the right to tell a democratic electorate which way to vote would have still been two completely unrelated and separate facts?
George Soros happens to be Jewish. He also happens to be using his wealth in an attempt to influence politics in countries he neither resides in nor hails from. These two sentences have absolutely nothing to do with eachother, but the latter is 100% something which makes him absolutely worthy of being called a scumbag.
The Koch Brothers, to my knowledge, have absolutely no Jewish heritage whatsoever, and yet are constantly condemned by the left for the same reasons Soros is condemned by the right. Trying to use Soros' Jewish heritage as a deflective shield against criticism of the fact that he's a rich individual who attempts to undermine democracy with money, is exactly the reason so many people don't take accusations of anti-semitism seriously anymore.
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hatrickpatrick wrote: »Does the coincidental fact of being Jewish automatically make a person above legitimate criticism for using their money to interfere in the internal politics of other democratic countries? I didn't even know Soros was Jewish until recently, just that he's a wealthy individual who uses his money to fund political movements outside his own country of residence. Regardless of a person's ethnic heritage, most people find that kind of behaviour uncomfortable at the very least. It's no different to the very legitimate condemnation of wealthy American conservatives bankrolling the anti-equality and anti-abortion movements here during our two recent referenda, from funding the groups themselves to block-buying YouTube ads commenting on a democratic vote taking place in someone else's country.
Does being Jewish mean a person can do this and be immune to others calling them anti-democratic assholes for doing so?
Nicholas Sarkozy has (that I know of) no Jewish heritage whatsoever, and I and many others roundly condemned him, repeatedly, for his attempts to interfere in Irish democracy by vocally demanding we overturn our Lisbon referendum result and threatening to block various things at the EU level unless we did. Are you suggesting that if he had been a Jew, this criticism would suddenly have been "anti semitic" even though his Jewish heritage and the fact that he thought he had the right to tell a democratic electorate which way to vote would have still been two completely unrelated and separate facts?
George Soros happens to be Jewish. He also happens to be using his wealth in an attempt to influence politics in countries he neither resides in nor hails from. These two sentences have absolutely nothing to do with eachother, but the latter is 100% something which makes him absolutely worthy of being called a scumbag.
The Koch Brothers, to my knowledge, have absolutely no Jewish heritage whatsoever, and yet are constantly condemned by the left for the same reasons Soros is condemned by the right. Trying to use Soros' Jewish heritage as a deflective shield against criticism of the fact that he's a rich individual who attempts to undermine democracy with money, is exactly the reason so many people don't take accusations of anti-semitism seriously anymore.
Soros is a man who places people before money every time. He doesn't care about his image.
I am always HIGHLY amused by people complaining this rich man spends all of his money on leftist politicians and charity.
Do you think he doing it for himself?? this big business man who throws money at people like Ocasio Cortez???
This big business man who throws money at muslims refugees.This big Business man who threw money at poor black students going to university in Apartheid South Africa.This rich Business man who threw 100 million to Russian Universities.
Yes this man who throws money like water towards education and Newspapers its HIM who is an enemy of democracy.
He even funded the yes side for our abortion ref.
He throws money like WATER at human rights in places he has never even BEEN. He throws money like WATER at politicians who want to tax the bejaysus out of him!
Yet its purely for his own selfish ends. And do you know what ..YOU ARE RIGHT it is. He does all this ...because he wants to. For his own selfish reasons.
And that is why he is own of my personal heroes.0 -
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Patty Hearst wrote: »Not at all..
You sure everyone was lil antisemitic back then?
Can you prove it?
I NEED PAPERS!
Ich brauche deine Papiere!
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ILoveYourVibes wrote: »They are not oblivious. They perceive it as punching up because they perceive Jews to be wealthy and elite.
They also have no idea that about 70% of Israelis are Arab Jews from Arab or descended from Arab countries. And that most present day Israelis have at least one grandparent from the original Palestinian Jewish population.
And most Ashkenazi are descended from people who had to flee for obvious reasons. Hitler was the one who forced many ashkenazi to palestine. And the grand mufti supported hitler at the time.
If Israel wasn't stealing land and murdering, I think antisemetism in the region would drop sharply
It's about the criminal Israel regime and it's policies. The sooner BiBi does time the better for everyone.0 -
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