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General Premier League Thread 2020-21 - Mod Notes in 1st post. [Updated 17/12/20]

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,399 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


    8-10 wrote: »
    In Europe, yes, not sure how people could think otherwise, it's literally always mentioned when we play big European games at home and there's a significant number of examples.

    But the PL is not the same. Not by a long long way. Crowd is rarely a factor and is regularly disappointing at Anfield.

    I'd say it makes no difference in as many as 15 of the 19 league games. But there's 12 points to play for in the ones it does, and they're likely to be very significant this year.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,144 ✭✭✭DVDM93


    European & the big Premier League games like City & United this season for example, yes.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.skysports.com/amp/football/news/11669/11752599/pep-guardiola-says-anfield-is-like-no-other-stadium-in-the-world

    the rest not so much.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,265 ✭✭✭✭citytillidie


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,224 ✭✭✭marklazarcovic


    Quote it and die !


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,429 ✭✭✭Wuff Wuff


    it

    so im gonna die?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,024 ✭✭✭✭Baggly


    Wuff Wuff wrote:
    so im gonna die?


    We all will eventually

    *exhales smoke from French cigarette*


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,116 ✭✭✭✭RasTa


    I hope to never see a list like that again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,024 ✭✭✭✭Baggly


    RasTa wrote: »
    I hope to never see a list like that again.

    Too real for you? :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,508 ✭✭✭✭ArmaniJeanss


    dubmick wrote: »
    bit silly going back to normal tv schedule for the new season with empty stadiums

    Interestingly according to the Mail, Sky/BT were offered more games but turned them down as too pricey. I guess there's diminishing returns when you get to the games which would be 7th/8th choice on a game week - they just aren't going to drive subscriptions enough to justify £7M a game or whatever the fee was.
    adaminho wrote: »
    Any idea when the tv schedule is out? I know Chelsea and Wolves games have to be on the Monday at the earliest.

    Sky reckon early next week.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,039 ✭✭✭✭Fitz*


    He could be in a spot of bother alright.

    https://www.espn.com/soccer/manchester-united/story/4164069/man-united-captain-maguire-detained-on-greek-island-after-brawl

    "The soccer player was verbally abusive to an officer and then hit him," a police official said. "The three were resisting when brought to the Mykonos police station."


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,429 ✭✭✭Wuff Wuff


    Great example for your club captain to set


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,333 ✭✭✭brinty


    Wuff Wuff wrote:
    Great example for your club captain to set


    About as good as another club captain I recall assaulting a DJ in a night club cos he wouldn't play said captains favourite song.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,353 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    brinty wrote: »
    About as good as another club captain I recall assaulting a DJ in a night club cos he wouldn't play said captains favourite song.

    Could you not just say he did wrong, stop trying to deflect and cut out the crap? Just because someone else did something doesn't excuse what Maguire has done.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,333 ✭✭✭brinty


    TitianGerm wrote: »
    Could you not just say he did wrong, stop trying to deflect and cut out the crap? Just because someone else did something doesn't excuse what Maguire has done.

    Oh so its ok for one set of fans to say its a "Great example for a club captain to set" in nothing more than a point scoring excercise ;) As usual ignoring their own past indiscretions as if they never happened. ;)

    None of us have any knowledge of what happened. Allow due process and lets see what really happened. Its easy to throw stones in glasses houses.

    Maguire isn't the first and won't be the last club captain to be arrested.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,409 ✭✭✭✭gimli2112


    Yeah Utd need to do the right thing here now, learn from our mistakes and not have their players wear Free Harry Maguire tee-shirts.
    This could be jail time if it's assault of a police officer as is being reported, although I assume the Greek police are well used to being assaulted by UK tourists.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,333 ✭✭✭brinty


    gimli2112 wrote: »
    Yeah Utd need to do the right thing here now, learn from our mistakes and not have their players wear Free Harry Maguire tee-shirts.
    This could be jail time if it's assault of a police officer as is being reported, although I assume the Greek police are well used to being assaulted by UK tourists.

    Yep, as i said allow due process and lets see what comes from it. Looks terrible right now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,353 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    brinty wrote: »
    Oh so its ok for one set of fans to say its a "Great example for a club captain to set" in nothing more than a point scoring excercise ;) As usual ignoring their own past indiscretions as if they never happened. ;)

    None of us have any knowledge of what happened. Allow due process and lets see what really happened. Its easy to throw stones in glasses houses.

    Maguire isn't the first and won't be the last club captain to be arrested.

    There you go again, sure I think they did it to take the piss so I'm going to have a jab back.

    Nothing anyone has posted is wrong. It's a poor example for a club capitan to set. Posting about other wrong doings years ago doesn't change that.

    People are posting about an incident that has being reported on Sky. And going on those facts. I bet it's being discussed in the United thread as well and I'd be very surprised if I didn't see mention of it being a bad look for the club capitan.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,116 ✭✭✭✭RasTa


    I always wondered why English fans abuse their own players. Throw the book at him, set an example of the English thug would be my preferred action(If he did punch the cop).


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,353 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    RasTa wrote: »
    I always wondered why English fans abuse their own players. Throw the book at him, set an example of the English thug would be my preferred action(If he did punch the cop).

    There's something about the English (not all of them obviously) that they just always seem to be involved in trouble when they go on holidays.

    Wasn't there a big problem with them sitting on the streets in Spain during lockdown and gave the police loads to f trouble when they tried to move them on?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,814 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    brinty wrote: »
    Oh so its ok for one set of fans to say its a "Great example for a club captain to set" in nothing more than a point scoring excercise ;) As usual ignoring their own past indiscretions as if they never happened. ;)

    None of us have any knowledge of what happened. Allow due process and lets see what really happened. Its easy to throw stones in glasses houses.

    Maguire isn't the first and won't be the last club captain to be arrested.

    Nothing is proven yet, its all just claims so could be nonsense
    But surely you do realise why people think assaulting a police man outside a bar during a global pandemic is different form getting into a row with a DJ ,

    Of course it would be best if neither incident happened and no point measuring who is worse as none of us know what really happened in both incidents .

    As you said you just got to see what happens and move on ,


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,333 ✭✭✭brinty


    Nothing is proven yet, its all just claims so could be nonsense
    But surely you do realise why people think assaulting a police man outside a bar during a global pandemic is different form getting into a row with a DJ ,

    Of course it would be best if neither incident happened and no point measuring who is worse as none of us know what really happened in both incidents .

    As you said you just got to see what happens and move on ,

    Exactly correct. Until we all know whats happened lets not stone the lad to death. Allow due process


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,476 ✭✭✭✭martyos121


    I dont think anyone is saying which incident is worse, I think most are just confused as fcuk as to why someone is so petty and desperate to bring up an incident that occurred over a decade ago in an attempt to deflect and start yet another clusterfcuk of an argument between United and Liverpool supporters in the general PL thread.

    Well done brinty, once again a job well done.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,407 Mod ✭✭✭✭DM_7


    Mod: move on from the comparison presented to the thread please


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,366 ✭✭✭✭8-10


    Are United in Greece for pre-season or is he on holiday does anyone know?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,333 ✭✭✭brinty


    8-10 wrote: »
    Are United in Greece for pre-season or is he on holiday does anyone know?

    Holidays i would guess. I doubt United would go straight into preseason after the Europa league


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,039 ✭✭✭✭Fitz*


    8-10 wrote: »
    Are United in Greece for pre-season or is he on holiday does anyone know?

    I wonder will this affect his return to pre-season training?

    If he did assault a police officer, there could be charges and a delayed release from the country. I'm not sure what the current quarantine rules are for UK & Greece but that would be an extra 14 days. There is a tight timeline for return to play as it is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,366 ✭✭✭✭8-10


    Fitz* wrote: »
    I wonder will this affect his return to pre-season training?

    If he did assault a police officer, there could be charges and a delayed release from the country. I'm not sure what the current quarantine rules are for UK & Greece but that would be an extra 14 days. There is a tight timeline for return to play as it is.

    No quarantine for Greece for returning to the UK as it stands.

    But even then elite athletes are exempt


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,508 ✭✭✭✭ArmaniJeanss


    Fitz* wrote: »
    I wonder will this affect his return to pre-season training?

    If he did assault a police officer, there could be charges and a delayed release from the country. I'm not sure what the current quarantine rules are for UK & Greece but that would be an extra 14 days. There is a tight timeline for return to play as it is.

    No quarantine for elite sportspeople as per UK government advice, just lots of continuous testing.
    To be honest sport wouldn't be able to cope with a 14 day rule, as players will going abroad for midweek internationals/ECL/Europa throughout the season.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,039 ✭✭✭✭Fitz*


    8-10 wrote: »
    No quarantine for Greece for returning to the UK as it stands.

    But even then elite athletes are exempt
    No quarantine for elite sportspeople as per UK government advice, just lots of continuous testing.
    To be honest sport wouldn't be able to cope with a 14 day rule, as players will going abroad for midweek internationals/ECL/Europa throughout the season.

    That clears up that then!

    He still might end up being kept in Greece for a few days longer. But we don't know if he was staying for another week or whatever anyways before this incident.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,689 ✭✭✭sky88


    No quarantine for elite sportspeople as per UK government advice, just lots of continuous testing.
    To be honest sport wouldn't be able to cope with a 14 day rule, as players will going abroad for midweek internationals/ECL/Europa throughout the season.

    is harry kane not in quarentine after a holiday?? i thought i had read that which would mean he shouldnt be if exempt


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,022 ✭✭✭✭Iused2likebusts


    Is it not very risky for a player to go on holiday as while you are away the destination you go to could be added to a list of countries that you have to quarantine for 14 days on your return. This happened with Croatia yesterday and Spain a few weeks ago.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,366 ✭✭✭✭8-10


    Is it not very risky for a player to go on holiday as while you are away the destination you go to could be added to a list of countries that you have to quarantine for 14 days on your return. This happened with Croatia yesterday and Spain a few weeks ago.

    Happened with Austria which has quarantine for those returning after 4am tomorrow. But doesn't apply to PL teams. Liverpool were already in Austria prior to the decision and are playing 2 games there after the quarantine rules come into effect overnight.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,508 ✭✭✭✭ArmaniJeanss


    sky88 wrote: »
    is harry kane not in quarentine after a holiday?? i thought i had read that which would mean he shouldnt be if exempt

    You're quite right as it happens, just read up on it now. Bahamas removed from the safe list whilst he was there. I thought his 'elite sportsperson status' overrode that, but apparently not.

    It raises an interesting point I guess if a country (lets say Greece as we are talking about it) gets removed from the safe-list the day Liverpool or MUFC arrive there for an ECL game against Panathaniokos. 14 days q on return?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,144 ✭✭✭DVDM93


    is it a blanket rule for elite athletes no matter the situation?

    for example, Liverpool being in Austria at the moment as a team, in an extremely controlled & professional environment, you'd understand the exception there.

    but compare that then to we'll say Harry Maguire, abroad acting the maggot with his mates in Greece, surely that's a different situation altogether!?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,353 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    You're quite right as it happens, just read up on it now. Bahamas removed from the safe list whilst he was there. I thought his 'elite sportsperson status' overrode that, but apparently not.

    It raises an interesting point I guess if a country (lets say Greece as we are talking about it) gets removed from the safe-list the day Liverpool or MUFC arrive there for an ECL game against Panathaniokos. 14 days q on return?

    Is the elite sports thing not for matches/training/camps etc and individual holidays are treated separately?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,366 ✭✭✭✭8-10


    Yeah that must be it.

    The UK announces it ahead of time by a few days so people can get home early. Costs a lot for the layperson at short notice and it's been annoying a lot of people but people earning what Maguire must do should be able to return in time easily (if not in jail)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,039 ✭✭✭✭Fitz*


    My understanding was that Liverpool got the excemption as they were in Austria to play 2 games, against Salzburg & Stuttgart. The games were organised & players in the country before the announcement was made, and as they are elite athletes in the country for the purpose of a elite athlete activity, they are exempt.

    A personal holiday wouldn't fall into that category.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,735 ✭✭✭✭Bobeagleburger


    No doubt someone has video footage that will be leaked. These things are always blown out of proportion. He was probably on the fringes looking on. Players rarely get caught up in something this serious.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,144 ✭✭✭DVDM93


    an interesting choice of words posted 10 minutes ago on Manchester United Football Club Official Twitter account.

    https://twitter.com/ManUtd/status/1296781093077581825?s=20


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,740 ✭✭✭✭MD1990


    https://twitter.com/ed_aarons/status/1296786632838918144

    surely he is stripped of the captaincy at least.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,735 ✭✭✭✭Bobeagleburger


    MD1990 wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/ed_aarons/status/1296786632838918144

    surely he is stripped of the captaincy at least.


    If true, that'd be the least of his worries.

    Still think it'll amount to little. Sources aren't great. Daily Mail all over it :rolleyes:

    Nothing concrete confirmed as far as I can see anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,740 ✭✭✭✭MD1990


    6 wrote: »
    If true, that'd be the least of his worries.

    Still think it'll amount to little. Sources aren't great. Daily Mail all over it :rolleyes:

    Nothing concrete confirmed as far as I can see anyway.

    Reuters is a great source. They say it is a statement from Greek police.

    Until i saw that I didnt think there was much to the story.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,144 ✭✭✭DVDM93


    he should have never been given the captaincy in the first place, even after he was he should have been stripped of it before this & it given to Bruno.

    I posted in the EL thread the night of the Sevilla game that it was very obvious to me who was the right man for the job & who was the wrong man going by the post match interviews.

    I gave Maguire the benefit of the doubt though as I was only basing my opinion on this as I don't watch really watch Manchester United at all tbh, but this confirms my suspicions.

    silver lining is that at least Ole has the perfect excuse to do that now as I don't think he would have had the balls to do that otherwise.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,191 ✭✭✭✭Shanotheslayer


    MD1990 wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/ed_aarons/status/1296786632838918144

    surely he is stripped of the captaincy at least.

    Penalty to Man United


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,397 ✭✭✭✭Turtyturd


    man u will frame it as him being abused by rival fans to the point where he had to react, and the police assault being a heat of the moment/lost in translation mix up. He’ll be stripped of the captaincy, do a few good pr events and everyone will move on.

    It would have been an ideal opportunity for man u to cut their losses but they’ll want to recoup as much of their outlay as possible and no other team is going to pay what they would look for.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,191 ✭✭✭✭Shanotheslayer


    If the reports are true that looks really bad. Nevermind a captaincy strip if proven guilty that's jail time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,024 ✭✭✭✭Baggly


    'I cant tell you what they were telling us. But it was swear words.'

    Im not a Utd loyalist but im not encouraged by the police side of the story based on this account.


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