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    #182
    AndyBoBandy
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    Niner leprauchan wrote: »
    When someone gets 500k after getting injured while commuting an illegal act, we should no longer be surprised

    Was this the girl that held onto the outside of the tram, And then fell off! Giving her a very mild head injury?

    At least in her case a judge didn’t award her the 500k, the LUAS operator simply settled with her out of court for €500k, it just goes to show how little faith they had in the system If they were prepared to give her a €500k settlement before even being in front of a judge, for scaling a moving tram and then falling off!


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    #183
    kildare lad
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    ShatterAlan wrote: »
    If it's so easy to get "paid, yo!" then why don't you just go and slide across the floor in your local Centra and bang your head and then get rich?

    Because I'm not a criminal....


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    #184
    Eggs For Dinner
    Registered Users Posts: 2,939 ✭✭✭Eggs For Dinner


    ...Ghost... wrote: »
    No-win, no-fee should be illegal. 1 free consultation is about as good as it gets with fees accruing regardless of outcome.

    5.

    Solicitors will still play the odds. With a very lucrative payday with every success, they are happy to lose a few, even if it means they don't get paid for their work

    Bottom line is the compensation system is too tempting for claimants and the legal profession. We are too small an economy/market to be able to sustain this and have affordable premiums to allow us enjoy social & sporting activities, run a business or drive our cars


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    #185
    punisher5112
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    AndyBoBandy wrote: »
    Was this the girl that held onto the outside of the tram, And then fell off! Giving her a very mild head injury?

    At least in her case a judge didn’t award her the 500k, the LUAS operator simply settled with her out of court for €500k, it just goes to show how little faith they had in the system If they were prepared to give her a €500k settlement before even being in front of a judge, for scaling a moving tram and then falling off!

    Sets her up nicely, how many kids she have now?

    She must have been mental anyway on the 1st place to cling onto a side door.

    What was going against them was they knew there was a design issue where the step was out enough and a gap to cling onto.


    I see some db SG types now have a rear engine cover that is completely covering the rear so nowhere for the boys to grip onto.

    I find it mad they let this design out as anything for many years it's been flat rears with no gaps.


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    #186
    Vic_08
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    punisher5112 wrote: »
    Sets her up nicely, how many kids she have now?

    She must have been mental anyway on the 1st place to cling onto a side door.

    What was going against them was they knew there was a design issue where the step was out enough and a gap to cling onto.


    I see some db SG types now have a rear engine cover that is completely covering the rear so nowhere for the boys to grip onto.

    I find it mad they let this design out as anything for many years it's been flat rears with no gaps.

    Accepting the premise that it should be the tram/bus company's responsibility to prevent scumbags from injuring themselves whilst engaging in obviously stupid and illegal behaviour is the core of our problem.

    Nannying the public from their own rank stupidity is bad enough but expecting criminals to be protected by the same people/companies who they are perpetrating crimes against is just insane.

    The correct response to that scumbag falling off the tram should have been LUAS suing her and her parents for the damage caused to the tram and the disruption to the service dealing with the aftermath.


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    #187
    Nermal
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    ShatterAlan wrote: »
    If it's so easy to get "paid, yo!" then why don't you just go and slide across the floor in your local Centra and bang your head and then get rich?

    With morals like this, a bright future in the ambulance-chasing profession awaits...


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    #188
    [Deleted User]
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    AndyBoBandy wrote: »
    Was this the girl that held onto the outside of the tram, And then fell off! Giving her a very mild head injury?

    At least in her case a judge didn’t award her the 500k, the LUAS operator simply settled with her out of court for €500k, it just goes to show how little faith they had in the system If they were prepared to give her a €500k settlement before even being in front of a judge, for scaling a moving tram and then falling off!

    as you said, when paying her 500K was the safe option, theres something seriously ****ed


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    #189
    Edgware
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    Nermal wrote: »
    With morals like this, a bright future in the ambulance-chasing profession awaits...

    Lionel Hutz aka Miguel Sanchez


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    #190
    ShatterAlan
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    Nermal wrote: »
    With morals like this, a bright future in the ambulance-chasing profession awaits...


    My moral compass is just fine thank you.



    While I understand that there maybe some frivolous lawsuits in Ireland I think that they are pretty rare. Certainly there are a lot of chancers but much work goes into investigating these cases and it generally takes years for a suit to come to conclusion. Despite what people think some pisshead can't just fall off his bar stool and then get 50k the next morning when he sobers up.



    I am all for there being compensation when negligence can be proven and also that the injured party has suffered extreme injury or life disruption as a result of an avoidable incident. In the Netherlands there is practically zero litigation "culture" and I find it a bit disconcerting. In my local bar a female cello player fell through a trapdoor that was left open to the cellar. She smashed her face against the steel stair leading down and broke her nose, jaw and lost a dozen teeth. She nearly broke her neck. But in Holland...."Oh well, tough luck."


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    #191
    1874
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    ShatterAlan wrote: »
    My moral compass is just fine thank you.

    While I understand that there maybe some frivolous lawsuits in Ireland I think that they are pretty rare. Certainly there are a lot of chancers but much work goes into investigating these cases and it generally takes years for a suit to come to conclusion. Despite what people think some pisshead can't just fall off his bar stool and then get 50k the next morning when he sobers up.

    I am all for there being compensation when negligence can be proven and also that the injured party has suffered extreme injury or life disruption as a result of an avoidable incident. In the Netherlands there is practically zero litigation "culture" and I find it a bit disconcerting. In my local bar a female cello player fell through a trapdoor that was left open to the cellar. She smashed her face against the steel stair leading down and broke her nose, jaw and lost a dozen teeth. She nearly broke her neck. But in Holland...."Oh well, tough luck."


    Rare, you're having a laugh, right?


    The other comment is correct though, some pisshead can fall off his barstool and get a hell of a lot more, what scenario where a person is drunk and slips is the fault of a council?



    The incident in Holland sounds like poor form, but maybe she doesnt have to litigate? Id like to think her costs were covered? but that is a case that seems worthy of having medical expenses and any loss of earnings restored. Thats not what is happening here, arbitrary figures are being pulled out of thin air where the claimants are culpable.


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    #192
    Eggs For Dinner
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    ShatterAlan wrote: »

    While I understand that there maybe some frivolous lawsuits in Ireland I think that they are pretty rare. Certainly there are a lot of chancers but much work goes into investigating these cases and it generally takes years for a suit to come to conclusion. Despite what people think some pisshead can't just fall off his bar stool and then get 50k the next morning when he sobers up.

    ."

    They are common, not rare and your pisshead example is exactly the type of thing that goes on


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    #193
    ShatterAlan
    Registered Users Posts: 2,807 ✭✭✭ShatterAlan


    Eggs For Dinner wrote: »
    They are common, not rare and your pisshead example is exactly the type of thing that goes on


    Well if you can come up with an example or similar I'd appreciate seeing it. I'm not challenging you I just want to see.


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    #194
    Lillyfae
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    1874 wrote: »
    The incident in Holland sounds like poor form, but maybe she doesnt have to litigate? Id like to think her costs were covered? but that is a case that seems worthy of having medical expenses and any loss of earnings restored. Thats not what is happening here, arbitrary figures are being pulled out of thin air where the claimants are culpable.

    It's most likely not true though. Everyone in NL has personal liability and legal insurance as standard. I think they might actually be mandatory, because it's such a litigious society.


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    #195
    Darc19
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    ShatterAlan wrote: »
    My moral compass is just fine thank you.



    While I understand that there maybe some frivolous lawsuits in Ireland I think that they are pretty rare. Certainly there are a lot of chancers but much work goes into investigating these cases and it generally takes years for a suit to come to conclusion. Despite what people think some pisshead can't just fall off his bar stool and then get 50k the next morning when he sobers up

    May I suggest that when restrictions are lifted, that you pay a visit to a circuit court sitting when it is dealing with personal injury cases.

    First have a look at the case listing published the day before.

    Then look at which judge is on.

    Then watch as cases get called.

    In naas last year before lockdown I had the "pleasure" of being at such a sitting.

    I counted 12 frivolous cases, 3 were postponed, 7 were "withdrawn" and two were deemed settled.


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    #196
    knucklehead6
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    Teresa Wall. There's an example of a frivolous lawsuit.

    Fortunately it was overturned.

    What about this one though. 256K for PTSD cos she got knocked down... while crossing the road at a red light
    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=107548101


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    #197
    knucklehead6
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    We have a new winner. 3.2 million. Knocked down while crossing a dual carriageway. Even though there was footbridge


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    #198
    Potential-Monke
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    For the story from April 2016 (if that's the correct one): https://www.thesun.ie/archives/irish-news/169155/e3-5m-for-young-lad-left-brain-damaged-after-he-was-knocked-down-by-motorbike/
    €3.5m for young lad left brain damaged after he was knocked down by motorbike
    David Draper from Blanchardstown in Dublin was only 13 years of age when he attempted to cross a dual carriageway home on the way home from school

    David who is now 18 years of age had sued the motorbike driver Nigel Fitzgerald of Harold’s Cross Road, Harold’s Cross, Dublin as a result of the accident at Blanchardstown Road North on March 30, 2011.

    It was claimed there was an alleged failure by the driver to keep any or any proper lookout.

    Fitzgerald had denied the claims and contended there was negligence on the part of David Draper because he had allegedly without warning run from the back of a bus and had allegedly failed to look to his left to check for traffic coming from the left.

    Senior Counsel Aedan McGovern told the court the settlement had been agreed on the basis of 30 per cent contributory negligence on the boys’ behalf which brought the total award to €3.5million.

    ...

    Justice Bernard Barton who met David in his chambers said he had no hesitation in approving the settlement.

    Horrible injuries, but 100% his own fault and I completely disagree with that settlement. Personal negligence these days appear to require someone else to blame.


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    #199
    Eggs For Dinner
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    Add legal fees and you are looking at well over 10,000 motorcyclists premiums to pay for just 1 accident


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    #200
    monkeysnapper
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    kildare lad wrote: »
    I bought a packet of pistachio nuts last year and it said " This product contains nuts ".

    Same with peanut butter ..... the world's mad


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    #201
    knucklehead6
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    Potential-Monke wrote: »
    For the story from April 2016 (if that's the correct one): https://www.thesun.ie/archives/irish-news/169155/e3-5m-for-young-lad-left-brain-damaged-after-he-was-knocked-down-by-motorbike/



    Horrible injuries, but 100% his own fault and I completely disagree with that settlement. Personal negligence these days appear to require someone else to blame.

    Nope. This one is where a part time model (ie someone who has paid for a photo shoot cos she thinks she's hot) who was crossing the dual carriage way at the Pavilions shopping centre.

    Its a settlement too, so there'll be no appealing. Obviously the insurance company were terrified of what a judge would do so 3.2 mill seemed cheap.

    Why she felt the need to ignore the footbridge 200 metres away is something that escapes me


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    #202
    Stephen Gawking
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    knucklehead6 wrote: »
    Nope. This one is where a part time model (ie someone who has paid for a photo shoot cos she thinks she's hot) who was crossing the dual carriage way at the Pavilions shopping centre.

    Its a settlement too, so there'll be no appealing. Obviously the insurance company were terrified of what a judge would do so 3.2 mill seemed cheap.

    Why she felt the need to ignore the footbridge 200 metres away is something that escapes me

    She like so many others ignore the bridge out of sheer laziness. Combine that with a dollop of plain old fashioned stupidity & thats the result.


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    #203
    knucklehead6
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    Stephen Gawking wrote: »
    She like so many others ignore the bridge out of sheer laziness. Combine that with a dollop of plain old fashioned stupidity & thats the result.

    And fear of a judge


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    #204
    PatrickSmithUS
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    This one seems a bit nuts as well.

    https://www.injury-compensation.ie/news/e75000-damages-for-public-servant-who-fractured-ankle-after-slipping-on-leaves-in-car-park/


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    #205
    Dr Bob
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    Potential-Monke wrote: »
    For the story from April 2016 (if that's the correct one): 6



    Horrible injuries, but 100% his own fault and I completely disagree with that settlement. Personal negligence these days appear to require someone else to blame.
    See this is different from the usual grown adults acting the maggot and suing.
    Oddly enough when I was 12 I was hit by a motorbike while crossing a road . Got a belt of the bike and was knocked a few feet down the road . Was somehow lucky enough to just get cuts and bruises , thankfully the rider realised he was going to hit me and managed to either skid or maneuverer so I didn't get the full force (in my head years after I imagined he pulled a wheelie , but I dont think that was it). I'd ran across the road thinking I was going to make it before the bike , ..I honestly remember thinking "wait I'm not going to make it" before getting hit. So yeah I was an eejit kid.
    Kid is the important word here , kids are idiots .
    As a minor yeah , he should know better , but he didn't .
    Also unlike me he this poor kid is going to be carrying the weight of something stupid he did for the rest of his life. In situations like this the money isn't living the high life , its basically to supplement his income /pay for medicals for the rest of his life ,especially since his chance of having a decent job is probably limited now .


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    #206
    Dr Bob
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    By the way , old trick I learned when I worked in a hotel years ago , if you want to put boiling water in something glass , stick a metal utensil (like a fork or spoon) into first , with the top of the metal sticking out over the top . You'd need a big one for a jug. Also , dont sue me if it doesnt work for you .


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    #207
    freshpopcorn
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    There was a fella on First Dates last night and he said he was in car crash and got a big enough pay out and he spent to all on holidays. (That's how it sounded to me)l


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    #208
    Gaoth Laidir
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    PatrickSmithUS wrote: »
    This one seems a bit nuts as well.

    https://www.injury-compensation.ie/news/e75000-damages-for-public-servant-who-fractured-ankle-after-slipping-on-leaves-in-car-park/

    Fücking hell, 75 grand for that? How can that be justified? Where is it that she lost earnings? She couldn't do leisure activities. How is that worth 75 grand? A fücking joke, this country.


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    Gaoth Laidir
    Registered Users Posts: 8,219 ✭✭✭Gaoth Laidir


    freshpopcorn wrote: »
    There was a fella on First Dates last night and he said he was in car crash and got a big enough pay out and he spent to all on holidays. (That's how it sounded to me)l

    That show is a car crash in itself...:rolleyes:


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    #210
    Man Vs ManUre
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    Go easy on her, this can happen to anyone. I bought one of them teeling whiskeys in dunes that came with the nice jar mug with screw lid. One day I decided to make coffee in it and it broke. And I was too stupid to even think about suing!!


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    #211
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    freshpopcorn wrote: »
    There was a fella on First Dates last night and he said he was in car crash and got a big enough pay out and he spent to all on holidays. (That's how it sounded to me)l

    100grand in 7 months IIRC?


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