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  • #7752
    randomname2005
    Registered Users Posts: 1,972 ✭✭✭randomname2005


    average_runner wrote: »
    I wish we had an automatic missile system that would target you if you broke a red light!!! Hence why I should never be the leader of this country!!

    No no no no no. That is too extreme. It should follow you until you stop, interrogate you as to why you broke the light (wouldn't want undercover cop cars following somebody or actually on real urgent activities getting blown up) and then go boom if you have no reason.


  • #7753
    Fighting Tao
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,487 ✭✭✭Fighting Tao


    Spikes that raise from the ground when lights go red would be a softer but extreme enough measure.


  • #7754
    hesker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,516 ✭✭✭hesker


    Scary close pass at speed this morning. No reason for it. No reason for a punishment pass. Had a whole other side of the road to move into. Most likely on the phone. Didn’t get the reg. May have to go scouting later for it. He’s likely in one of the car parks nearby.


  • #7755
    blackwhite
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,960 ✭✭✭blackwhite


    Ray Bloody Purchase wrote: »
    The Gardai have been at Harolds Cross the last two mornings pulling people using the bus lane. I saw a Garda pull a van this morning for using it. When he had the van pulled in two other cars whizzed by in the lane. People just don't give a flying fcuk (one of them was a learner).

    I'm not sure if the people are getting tickets or not. :confused:

    Answered by AGS yesterday evening :)


    https://twitter.com/GardaTraffic/status/1118173326369804289


  • #7756
    francois
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,493 ✭✭✭francois


    blackwhite wrote: »
    Answered by AGS yesterday evening :)

    None there at 8.30 this morning, I counted 5-yes 5-cars running a red light there


  • #7757
    Rechuchote
    Registered Users Posts: 1,171 ✭✭✭Rechuchote


    francois wrote: »
    None there at 8.30 this morning, I counted 5-yes 5-cars running a red light there

    The law is changing so that cameras that can automagically issue fines will soon be universal.


  • #7758
    Seth Brundle
    Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 40,290 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Rechuchote wrote: »
    The law is changing so that cameras that can automagically issue fines will soon be universal.
    Universal?
    How much is the budget for this?


  • #7759
    magicbastarder
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,167 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    francois wrote: »
    None there at 8.30 this morning, I counted 5-yes 5-cars running a red light there
    i guess it's a case of making people worry that there will be gardai there, rather than actually having gardai there, so you wouldn't need them every morning.


  • #7760
    mr spuckler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,121 ✭✭✭mr spuckler


    magicbastarder wrote: »
    i guess it's a case of making people worry that there will be gardai there, rather than actually having gardai there, so you wouldn't need them every morning.

    a bit like the fixed speed camera at the Spa Hotel near Lucan. had the fear of God in people for years but thew camera was very rarely in operation.

    out of interest, where have all of those fixed cameras gone?


  • #7761
    blackwhite
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,960 ✭✭✭blackwhite


    mr spuckler wrote: »
    a bit like the fixed speed camera at the Spa Hotel near Lucan. had the fear of God in people for years but thew camera was very rarely in operation.

    out of interest, where have all of those fixed cameras gone?


    Lifted during road widening works, and never replaced AFAIK


    The red light camera at Con Colbert Rd - Sth Circular Road junction is still there, but I don't think it's been operational for a long time


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  • #7762
    Hurrache
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,240 ✭✭✭✭Hurrache


    Last time I checked the shell of the one on the old N2 before Ashbourne was still there too, albeit taken over by nature. On the M50 the lines until relatively recently were still there for the one just before the airport northbound, and around Dundrum northbound. The lines are either gone now, or I just don't notice them anymore at this stage. As far as I know there were never actual cameras in place at either of those locations.


  • #7763
    Fighting Tao
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,487 ✭✭✭Fighting Tao


    The one at Dunleer on the M1 was removed due to cost. Someone had to go out and change the roll of film and it didn't take many photos to fill the roll. It was installed before roadside cameras became digital.


  • #7764
    mr spuckler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,121 ✭✭✭mr spuckler


    so it appears that they've basically given up on them! I can't remember the last time I heard of one being operational. fish in a barrel eh.


  • #7765
    BoardsMember
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,497 ✭✭✭BoardsMember


    It's just priceless the inpetitude with which we solve for things. It would be funny if it was not a road safety issue.


  • #7766
    Lambay island
    Registered Users Posts: 1,008 ✭✭✭Lambay island


    francois wrote: »
    None there at 8.30 this morning, I counted 5-yes 5-cars running a red light there


    Yes no cops this morn. I actually saw a car go into bus lane between the gap in the bollards( area to let bus out) right in front of me, no indicator of course either. They gained minus ground and put me at risk


  • #7767
    magicbastarder
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,167 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/almost-5-000-drivers-caught-using-phone-in-first-two-months-of-2019-1.3863368

    nearly 100 a day? colour me gobsmacked. i've never seen nor heard of anyone getting caught.


  • #7768
    jjpep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 658 ✭✭✭jjpep


    magicbastarder wrote: »
    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/almost-5-000-drivers-caught-using-phone-in-first-two-months-of-2019-1.3863368

    nearly 100 a day? colour me gobsmacked. i've never seen nor heard of anyone getting caught.
    You'd wonder is it the same number generator that the guards used for drink driving detections?


  • #7769
    blackwhite
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,960 ✭✭✭blackwhite


    magicbastarder wrote: »
    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/almost-5-000-drivers-caught-using-phone-in-first-two-months-of-2019-1.3863368

    nearly 100 a day? colour me gobsmacked. i've never seen nor heard of anyone getting caught.

    I've seen people pulled on Merrion Rd a few times.

    There's usually a garda on patrol around the British Embassy - at times when they're particularly bored I have seen them pull drivers out of the line of traffic for what I can only assume was seeing them on the phone. Notebook has been out times when I've passed them pulled over as well, so looks like tickets would have been issued


  • #7770
    Eamonnator
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,561 ✭✭✭Eamonnator


    Fighting Tao wrote: »
    The one at Dunleer on the M1 was removed due to cost. Someone had to go out and change the roll of film and it didn't take many photos to fill the roll. It was installed before roadside cameras became digital.

    The cameras at Kilineer and Gormanston on the old N1 were the same type, no longer operational.
    Cost wasn't really an issue. a garda from the Traffic Corps was detailed to look after them as part of his normal duties.


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  • #7771
    Ray Bloody Purchase
    Closed Accounts Posts: 689 ✭✭✭Ray Bloody Purchase


    Eamonnator wrote: »
    The cameras at Kilineer and Gormanston on the old N1 were the same type, no longer operational.
    Cost wasn't really an issue. a garda from the Traffic Corps was detailed to look after them as part of his normal duties.

    Were they rotating them around from location to location years ago?


  • #7772
    Eamonnator
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,561 ✭✭✭Eamonnator


    Ray Bloody Purchase wrote: »
    Were they rotating them around from location to location years ago?

    Yes, there were more locations and boxes than there were cameras.
    And taking the one at Dunleer on the M1 as an example, if you set it to capture speeds of say 133kph in 120kph zone, the film would be used up in very short order.


  • #7773
    Ray Bloody Purchase
    Closed Accounts Posts: 689 ✭✭✭Ray Bloody Purchase


    Eamonnator wrote: »
    Yes, there were more locations and boxes than there were cameras.
    And taking the one at Dunleer on the M1 as an example, if you set it to capture speeds of say 133kph in 120kph zone, the film would be used up in very short order,

    The whole idea of using film seems rather quaint and that was only a couple of years ago!

    I think there used to be one on the M4/N4 between Lucan and the turn off for Sallins.


  • #7774
    magicbastarder
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,167 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    Ray Bloody Purchase wrote: »
    The whole idea of using film seems rather quaint and that was only a couple of years ago!
    at least you got arty shots of the speeders, and no need for an instagram filter in court.


  • #7775
    Hurrache
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,240 ✭✭✭✭Hurrache


    Hurrache wrote: »
    The lines are either gone now, or I just don't notice them anymore at this stage. As far as I know there were never actual cameras in place at either of those locations.

    This evening I was made aware the lines are still there before the Firehouse exit northbound when the car infront braked for no apparent reason.


  • #7776
    buffalo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,095 ✭✭✭buffalo


    Cycling to the train station this morning, I was overtaken with a wide berth by a guy in a black Audi, yellow reg. Very nice, I thought, thank you. Driver stopped at the T-junction ahead, right indicator on, going same direction as myself.

    I'll just move up on his left, there's plenty of space - I don't want to block his view out the passenger side, but want to be ready to follow. Then the passenger door swings open in the middle of the road as someone hops out. I'm already slowing to a stop, so no harm, but passenger pretends I'm not there as she avoids eye contact.

    Car then stays stopped in the middle of the junction so the driver can make sure the passenger crosses to the top of the T okay, leaving me to awkwardly make my way past the car and across the front where I pray he doesn't decide that now is the right moment to start driving again.


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  • #7777
    downtheroad
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,274 ✭✭✭downtheroad


    There was an ambulance just inside the car park of Super Valu Killester this morning with a bike leaning against it, hopefully all ok.


  • #7778
    What Username Guidelines
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭What Username Guidelines


    Took primary position in bus lane this morning, or at least thought I did, along the north quays between four courts and capel street. A bus was stopped a good bit ahead, so I moved *slightly* right to prepare to overtake. Still very much in the lane. Bus began to move off so I didn't signal and went to move back to centre when I realised the car that had been tailgating, was taking this opportunity to undertake me, dreadfully close. Threw his hands up in the air as if to say "what am I supposed to do?"

    https://streamable.com/523rr


  • #7779
    Seth Brundle
    Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 40,290 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    What Username Guidelines wrote: »
    Took primary position in bus lane this morning, or at least thought I did, along the north quays between four courts and capel street. A bus was stopped a good bit ahead, so I moved *slightly* right to prepare to overtake. Still very much in the lane. Bus began to move off so I didn't signal and went to move back to centre when I realised the car that had been tailgating, was taking this opportunity to undertake me, dreadfully close. Threw his hands up in the air as if to say "what am I supposed to do?"

    https://streamable.com/523rr
    I would report him.
    His mirror was very close to you and effectively left you with no room were you to have to suddenly swerve.
    He is also illegally driving in a bus lane and passing on the left. Plenty there for the gardai to choose from!

    Registration|05D47105
    Make|NISSAN
    Model|ALMERA
    Description|1.5 SVE 4DR Euro 3
    Engine Capacity|1498


  • #7780
    Duckjob
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,859 ✭✭✭Duckjob


    What Username Guidelines wrote: »
    Threw his hands up in the air as if to say "what am I supposed to do?"

    I love those sort of reactions - its like: "What am I supposed to do, Take responsibility and be a safe and competent driver ?"

    No, its: - WAH WAH, but CYCLISTS WAH WAH middle of of teh road WAH WAH road tax WAH WAH red lights

    Stunningly ignorant to their own duty of care on the road, and to the meaning of the pink slip of card in their pockets.


  • #7781
    Chiparus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,279 ✭✭✭Chiparus


    Could it have been a guard?


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  • #7782
    AndrewJRenko
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,440 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    Duckjob wrote: »
    I love those sort of reactions - its like: "What am I supposed to do.

    I got this verbatim from the young lady who cut me up on Eden Quay to make her left turn at Liberty Hall. I caught up at the lights, as usual, and politely asked why she had to cut me up. When she asked 'what am I supposed to do' and I answered that 'well, you could just wait behind, and we'd both still be here at the same time', I could visibly see the cogs working in her brain as she realised that she could indeed have waiting behind and she would be no worse off. Maybe next time....


  • #7783
    Seth Brundle
    Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 40,290 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Chiparus wrote: »
    Could it have been a guard?
    I'm fairly sure that gardai are not allowed to drive in a manner that endangers vulnerable road users!


  • #7784
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Seth Brundle wrote: »
    I'm fairly sure that gardai are not allowed to drive in a manner that endangers vulnerable road users!

    Wasn't there a video from along the quays from a year or so ago of one tailgating a cyclist in his own car in the bus lane when the cyclist had a go at him pointed to his badge? I'll see if i can dig it out.


  • #7785
    Eamonnator
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,561 ✭✭✭Eamonnator


    Chiparus wrote: »
    Could it have been a guard?

    Could it have been a farm labourer?


  • #7786
    Seth Brundle
    Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 40,290 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Wasn't there a video from along the quays from a year or so ago of one tailgating a cyclist in his own car in the bus lane when the cyclist had a go at him pointed to his badge? I'll see if i can dig it out.
    I had a garda flash a badge on me when I challenged him for being a prick but as there was no video, it couldn't go any further.
    With a video, it should stand, I'd have thought.


  • #7787
    amcalester
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,121 ✭✭✭amcalester


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Wasn't there a video from along the quays from a year or so ago of one tailgating a cyclist in his own car in the bus lane when the cyclist had a go at him pointed to his badge? I'll see if i can dig it out.

    I remember that, think there was some outrage at the time and he might have been reprimanded but not much ever came of it.


  • #7788
    Chiparus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,279 ✭✭✭Chiparus


    Seth Brundle wrote: »
    I'm fairly sure that gardai are not allowed to drive in a manner that endangers vulnerable road users!

    Remember a garda pulled in a small car for driving in the bus lane in the quays a few years ago, driver showed Id and was waved on.


  • #7789
    RobertFoster
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,226 ✭✭✭RobertFoster


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Wasn't there a video from along the quays from a year or so ago of one tailgating a cyclist in his own car in the bus lane when the cyclist had a go at him pointed to his badge? I'll see if i can dig it out.
    Looks like the video has been removed: https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=99679281


  • #7790
    ED E
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,169 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    Detective flashed his badge for parking in a clearway/cyclelane in D2 a few years back. He was getting coffee in Centra.


  • #7791
    Mc Love
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,015 ✭✭✭✭Mc Love


    Had a near miss with a pedestrian, which was strange as she approached a set of traffic lights, looked right (i presume she saw me coming) and then proceeded to walk across the road. Give her a little ring ring to hurry her out of my way.

    Quite funny to use the bell for someone that you'd think would have seen me, but didnt.


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  • #7792
    Seth Brundle
    Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 40,290 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Mc Love wrote: »
    Had a near miss with a pedestrian, which was strange as she approached a set of traffic lights, looked right (i presume she saw me coming) and then proceeded to walk across the road. Give her a little ring ring to hurry her out of my way.

    Quite funny to use the bell for someone that you'd think would have seen me, but didnt.
    Breakdancing gorilla!


  • #7793
    AndrewJRenko
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,440 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    ED E wrote: »
    Detective flashed his badge for parking in a clearway/cyclelane in D2 a few years back. He was getting coffee in Centra.

    I'm sure he was buying supplies for the prisoners being held in the cells at the station. That's the standard excuse response.


  • #7794
    sy_flembeck
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 891 ✭✭✭sy_flembeck


      AndrewJRenko wrote: »
      I'm sure he was buying supplies for the prisoners being held in the cells at the station. That's the standard excuse response.

      Sorry to disappoint but that is indeed generally the case


    • #7795
      Breezer
      Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,228 ✭✭✭Breezer


      Seth Brundle wrote: »
      I had a garda flash a badge on me when I challenged him for being a prick but as there was no video, it couldn't go any further.
      With a video, it should stand, I'd have thought.

      I'd one of these Garda incidents as a pedestrian earlier, I posted it in Commuting and Transport.
      Breezer wrote: »
      Slightly off topic, but just had an interesting one. I'm on foot crossing a side road on Dublin, at an unsignalised T junction. A guy in a car comes along as I'm half way across the road and turns across my path. He's going slowly enough and is obviously going to yield to me, but he gets close enough before he stops and throws his hands up in the air in a "WTF?" gesture. So I stop and have a little chat with him about his duty to yield to pedestrians already crossing.

      He responds by firing up his undercover siren. I tell him I don't care if he's a guard, he's still wrong. There's a bit of back and forth and him acting the hard man telling me he hopes to see me on a coroner's desk some day.

      If I'd had more time I might have suggested we discuss it with his superintendent but I didn't want the eejit taking me up on it for the sake of his ego, since I actually did have somewhere to be, so we agreed to disagree.

      Wonderful attitude from Ireland's finest though.


    • #7796
      AndrewJRenko
      Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,440 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


      sy_flembeck wrote: »

        Sorry to disappoint but that is indeed generally the case

        Really? Based on what?

        And even if it is the case, do you think it's good practice? Do you think it could generally be avoided by finding an outlet with legal parking, such as the many petrol station shops around the place?


      • #7797
        Diemos
        Registered Users Posts: 1,417 ✭✭✭Diemos


        Mc Love wrote: »
        Had a near miss with a pedestrian, which was strange as she approached a set of traffic lights, looked right (i presume she saw me coming) and then proceeded to walk across the road. Give her a little ring ring to hurry her out of my way.

        Quite funny to use the bell for someone that you'd think would have seen me, but didnt.

        I've had that with pedestrians and drivers, they look for vehicles, they see straight through you cos they are not looking for cyclists.

        I scared the sh!t out of a lady in an A3 once, she pull out on my into stopped traffic, there was nothing beside or behind me.
        Its day time but I have my lights on and i'm wearing a high vis coat and a white helmet.
        I knocked on her window and she jumped a mile.
        I was polite and asked if she had seen me, she said no, I believed her.

        People just don't look for bikes.
        It's scary how many people drive on auto pilot.


      • #7798
        micar
        Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,903 ✭✭✭micar


        Just back from 2 hour spin from Drogheda to Annagassin and back..just over 60km.

        Heading back 4km from Drogheda on the Termonfeckin road, a man in a small white van decided to overtake me at same time a car was coming in the opposite direction giving me about 3 inches of space. Unbelievable. Let out a big roar at him. What a fu(c)king pr1ck.


      • #7799
        [Deleted User]
        Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


        ^ The road is reasonably straight around there isn't it ? So he's likely have seen oncoming traffic and simply just couldn't be arsed waiting to pass you. Muppet.


      • #7800
        micar
        Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,903 ✭✭✭micar


        Deleted User wrote: »
        ^ The road is reasonably straight around there isn't it ? So he's likely have seen oncoming traffic and simply just couldn't be arsed waiting to pass you. Muppet.

        Totally.....it couldn't be more straighter.


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      • #7801
        tuxy
        Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


        The only safe option on roads like that is to take a position where they must cross into the other lane to overtake.


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