Dublin Airport New Runway/Infrastructure.

LXFlyer · 28-03-2019 9:37pm

J6P wrote: »

Can you link to where the DAA have stated that?

My understanding was that they would be appealling for all restrictions to be lifted.

https://www.dublinairport.com/north-runway/latest-news-downloads/faqs

I don't have time to look now, but the notion that they need dual runway operations all night long is daft. They don't and they won't. There is a need up to midnight and from 06:00 when flight operations are busiest.

The key periods are at night when the Ryanair fleet is returning to base between 22:00 and midnight, and then in the morning when short haul operations start up - particularly between 06:00 and 07:30 - there's limited scope for extra flights earlier than that as demand is not really there.

The proposed restriction on aircraft movements between 11:00 and 07:00 is far too restrictive on Aer Lingus and Ryanair short haul fleet - they need the extra hour at either end to be unrestricted.

Jamie2k9 · 28-03-2019 10:32pm

Tenger wrote: »

I believe runway ops are closed between 0100-0500 at the moment.
Early arrivals can land at 0430ish. Obviously they aren’t as loud so are they discounted?

Not discounted, J6P implied night flights would increase when the reality is there might be a handful of extra flights but nothing significant.

Can you link to where the DAA have stated that?

My understanding was that they would be appealling for all restrictions to be lifted.

https://www.dublinairport.com/north-...downloads/faqs

Problem with restrictions is there is around 25 more aircraft arriving/departing between 23.00-07.00 today than would be allowed under with the second runway. So in 2021 under current restrictions there would be less flights.

If the cap was realistic and open to a review every 3-5 years we wouldn't have problems.

Idbatterim · 29-03-2019 9:38am

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/ross-furious-after-vote-lost-while-tds-were-at-match-37962585.html

basill · 29-03-2019 11:45am

Do they not have a chief whip? Surely if they do then they need a new one and the TDs that allowed this to happen will get punished behind the scenes.

Blut2 · 29-03-2019 4:14pm

Absolutely ridiculous carry-on:

Only 29 Government-supporting TDs were present for the vote, which was lost by 34 to 29 votes. There are 49 Fine Gael TDs.

To lose an important vote for the future of the country because you can't even get your own party TDs to show up to vote is a shambles. For once Shane Ross is right - Fine Gael are completely to blame for this mess.

Phen2206 · 29-03-2019 8:32pm

Blut2 wrote: »

For once Shane Ross is right - Fine Gael are completely to blame for this mess.

Absolutely. However I wouldn't panic yet. Even if this ludicrous limitation does manage to make it into law, the minute they try to enforce it, the law will quickly be reversed. Airlines will threaten to cancel flights/pull out of Dublin if they are going to be hit with continuous fines for breaching noise limits. When this reality hits, the Government will not want to be responsible for a reduction in pax numbers/overall business in DUB.

WishUWereHere · 30-03-2019 8:22pm

Phen2206 wrote: »

Absolutely. However I wouldn't panic yet. Even if this ludicrous limitation does manage to make it into law, the minute they try to enforce it, the law will quickly be reversed. Airlines will threaten to cancel flights/pull out of Dublin if they are going to be hit with continuous fines for breaching noise limits. When this reality hits, the Government will not want to be responsible for a reduction in pax numbers/overall business in DUB.

Want to bet, Phen? If this bunch are anything to go by on their track record, they will only make a move after the horse has bolted.:mad:

Noxegon · 07-04-2019 2:05pm

I hate to bring up this old chestnut again, but are the self-service passport machines still being used?

I ask because I haven't seen them open in 2019 despite very regular trips through the airport.

Shedite27 · 07-04-2019 3:23pm

Noxegon wrote: »

I hate to bring up this old chestnut again, but are the self-service passport machines still being used?

I ask because I haven't seen them open in 2019 despite very regular trips through the airport.

Yes were open the 2 times I've passed through this year. The manual stations are faster from my experience.

Bsal · 08-04-2019 12:12am

I see they have renamed alot of taxiways in the latest AIP update namely Bravo is now Sierra, the runway turnoffs have been renamed S1-S7 and we now have W1-W3. I presume when the new runway opens the taxiways around it will be November making it a north/south split.

View Profile · 08-04-2019 10:26am

They could have at least kept the numerical names the same .i.e. the old E6 is now S5. E3 is now S2. Bit confusing.
And what was wrong with retaining the H2 and M2 taxiway names?!

Sometimes I think the IAA enjoy making things overly complicated.

lawred2 · 08-04-2019 10:29am

When is the new runway expected to be finished?

And have they killed off those ludicrous operational restrictions that were going to be in place?

CoisFharraige · 08-04-2019 10:52am

Bsal wrote: »

I see they have renamed alot of taxiways in the latest AIP update namely Bravo is now Sierra, the runway turnoffs have been renamed S1-S7 and we now have W1-W3. I presume when the new runway opens the taxiways around it will be November making it a north/south split.

And also the taxiways H1 to P1 will become E. So we’ll have N, S, W, E.

Katcosy · 08-04-2019 11:13am

View Profile wrote: »

They could have at least kept the numerical names the same .i.e. the old E6 is now S5. E3 is now S2. Bit confusing.
And what was wrong with retaining the H2 and M2 taxiway names?!

Sometimes I think the IAA enjoy making things overly complicated.

This is the DAA responsibility NOT the IAA. Following a study by an outside agency to line up with best European practice. It is not confusing.

Tenger · 08-04-2019 11:28am

lawred2 wrote: »

When is the new runway expected to be finished?

And have they killed off those ludicrous operational restrictions that were going to be in place?

1- 2021

2-You could read the posts above to discover 'no' is the answer

lawred2 · 08-04-2019 11:31am

Tenger wrote: »

1- 2021

2-You could read the posts above to discover 'no' is the answer

sorry - tx

Not only has it not been resolved but I see our dopes in the Dail have actually made things a little worse.

Bussywussy · 08-04-2019 12:01pm

Plenty of roadbridge vehicles around the site of new runway the last 2 weeks,between what looks like a new perimeter road and now digging in the middle of the field

Kermit.de.frog · 10-04-2019 10:58pm

What's the story with the new piers due to be built?

Still have not seen any actual designs or even planning docs.

View Profile · 11-04-2019 9:50am

Katcosy wrote:

Following a study by an outside agency to line up....... It is not confusing.

Ask the pilots visiting Dublin and they'll say otherwise.

Jamie2k9 · 11-04-2019 10:01am

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

What's the story with the new piers due to be built?

Still have not seen any actual designs or even planning docs.

Charges and Capital spend for 2019 will not be announced for a few months by the regulators. They need approval.

Pier F was 2023/2024 completion.

coylemj · 15-04-2019 6:05pm

Sorry if this has been asked already but there's now 4,311 posts in this thread.....

Will runway 16/34 remain after the north runway is opened?

plodder · 15-04-2019 7:07pm

Was flying in with Ryanair from Hamburg today and it was very busy at both ends, but there was a delay of the incoming aircraft, caused by a long taxiing delay leaving Dublin earlier. That had a bizarre knock-on effect, with four bus loads of passengers waiting at the plane to board in Hamburg, but couldn't, because there was no buses to take the arriving passengers away, adding another 15 minutes of delay. That was obviously a resource issue in Hamburg but triggered by congestion in Dublin due to the lack of a parallel runway.

Rojomur · 16-04-2019 1:15am

coylemj wrote: »

Sorry if this has been asked already but there's now 4,311 posts in this thread.....

Will runway 16/34 remain after the north runway is opened?

Yes 16/34 will remain in service under current plans.

Locker10a · 16-04-2019 3:00am

plodder wrote: »

Was flying in with Ryanair from Hamburg today and it was very busy at both ends, but there was a delay of the incoming aircraft, caused by a long taxiing delay leaving Dublin earlier. That had a bizarre knock-on effect, with four bus loads of passengers waiting at the plane to board in Hamburg, but couldn't, because there was no buses to take the arriving passengers away, adding another 15 minutes of delay. That was obviously a resource issue in Hamburg but triggered by congestion in Dublin due to the lack of a parallel runway.

Air traffic management is pretty poor in Dublin compared to its peers across Europe

Nibs05 · 28-04-2019 10:17pm

Interesting:

https://www.independent.ie/business/irish/dublin-airport-unveils-plans-for-security-upgrade-38047419.html

Where exactly would this be

dropzone · 28-04-2019 10:40pm

Nibs05 wrote: »

Interesting:

https://www.independent.ie/business/irish/dublin-airport-unveils-plans-for-security-upgrade-38047419.html

Where exactly would this be

Presume it will be where the previous extension of the T1 baggage hall is. Right next to the T2 baggage hall.

MJohnston · 30-04-2019 10:18am

It says in the article where it is!

yannakis · 30-04-2019 10:24pm

MJohnston wrote: »

It says in the article where it is!

You have to admit that in this case a photo was a thousand words. Except if someone is born and bred in DUB and knows every single building..

cameramonkey · 06-05-2019 11:09pm

Dublin airport's new tower from the Three Rock with the the Mountains of Mourne or Cooley in the background.

Jamie2k9 · 09-05-2019 2:36pm

Regulator propose 15% cut in airport charges, daa not reacted well. Not looked at the proposals however I think CAR view on quality service for passengers differs to mine and others.

https://www.aviationreg.ie/news/commission-publishes-draft-determination-on-dublin-airport-charges-2020-2024.898.html

https://www.dublinairport.com/latest-news/detail/daa-extremely-concerned-at-aviation-regulator's-proposed-charges

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