The Flash [ Spoilers ==> US pace]

Mc Love · 16-11-2014 7:02am

I have the first few episodes have already been better than all the seasons of arrow put together!

iano.p · 16-11-2014 8:58am

Started looking at this I like it. It works well and Plus my daughter like a looking at it with me so win win

don ramo · 17-11-2014 1:51am

Mc Love wrote: »

I have the first few episodes have already been better than all the seasons of arrow put together!

hardly season 1 of arrow was awesome, but its been pretty good alright

Potential-Monke · 17-11-2014 9:20am

don ramo wrote: »

hardly season 1 of arrow was awesome, but its been pretty good alright

After watching through the first 2 seasons of Arrow, i'm inclined to agree here. Excellent series, which made me wonder why i've never watched it until now.

GottaGetGatt · 20-11-2014 12:54am

So i think its pretty obvious who killed Barrys mother now.

EoinMcLovin · 20-11-2014 1:15am

GottaGetGatt wrote: »

So i think its pretty obvious who killed Barrys mother now.

It's a red herring, they did the same in arrow for the dark archer. They made it look like it was one person and then revealed him to be a totally different person instead. It could still be him or it could be Eddie

Agent Coulson · 20-11-2014 1:16am

GottaGetGatt wrote: »

So i think its pretty obvious who killed Barrys mother now.

I think it's Well's wife.

tvnutz · 20-11-2014 1:52pm

I'm finding it hard to warm to this show. I know Arrow wasn't great until probably half way through season 1 but I find this show far cheesier and dialogue horrible. I know Arrow is no masterclass in these areas but its still not as bad.

However I think the main draw back is the supporting cast. Apart from Wells who has a bit of mystery around him and is a half decent actor, the other two side kicks are awful. They are so bad I can't remember their names, your one can't act and is annoying, the hippy lad with the long hair is probably ever worse. As for the love interest, I'd take Laurel from Arrow over her any day, and she wrecks my head.

Just compare them to Diggle and Felicity,even Roy, and they are just so poor and bring the show down. If Diggle or Felicity died I'd be annoyed, if anything happened to these two clowns in Flash, I wouldn't give a toss.

PirateShampoo · 20-11-2014 2:13pm

Being a fan of the comics I already know who killed his mother. The show is so full of comic easter eggs. Can't wait to see what they do with Firestorm.

squonk · 20-11-2014 2:22pm

In many ways it's a better show I think than it ought to be. It's funnier than Arrow, and isn't burdened with the dead parents etc. that Arrow had. While the supporting cast aren't remarkable I'd agree, they're not that bad either. Aside from being hot though, I don't really buy the actress playing Ciatlin in the role. She looks too young for starters to be the accomplished doctor she's portraying. In fiarness she looks like she just enrolled in medical school.

EoinMcLovin · 26-11-2014 1:22pm

Good episode this week with more focus on Wells.
Next weeks Arrow vs Flash Crossover looks epic

Mr E · 27-11-2014 8:53am

I'm enjoying the Flash more than the Arrow now. The Arrow is all gruff voices and superhero posers, but it's still entertaining for what it is. The Flash (as a show) has more heart than any network TV show airing this year. This week's episode was superb.

27-11-2014 11:08am

Nice intro to the Clockmaster there, I imagine that there will be a lot more going on with him. It was also actually kinda nice to see Tony half redeem himself by telling Barry to run (knowing that Farooq was a level up, in terms of power)

Did everyone like Moreena Baccarin voicing Gideon?

EoinMcLovin · 27-11-2014 11:28am

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Nice intro to the Clockmaster there, I imagine that there will be a lot more going on with him. It was also actually kinda nice to see Tony half redeem himself by telling Barry to run (knowing that Farooq was a level up, in terms of power)

Did everyone like Moreena Baccarin voicing Gideon?

Clock king was actually on Arrow last season, also that's two meta humans that Wells has asked to kill someone but ended up dead just before they could tell Barry

27-11-2014 11:32am

EoinMcLovin wrote: »

Clock king was actually on Arrow last season, also that's two meta humans that Wells has asked to kill someone but ended up dead just before they could tell Barry

I got it wrong in two I put his name down wrong and now that you mention it I remember him in Arrow now!

Given taking a sample from Farooq is Wells

Professor Zoom / Reverse Flash and time traveling?

EoinMcLovin · 27-11-2014 12:02pm

Deleted User wrote: »

I got it wrong in two I put his name down wrong and now that you mention it I remember him in Arrow now!

Given taking a sample from Farooq is Wells
Professor Zoom / Reverse Flash and time traveling?

Yeah there is many theories on the identity of the man in the yellow suit

Its either Zoom or reverse Flash who came from the future and killed Barry's mom and most people think its either Wells or Eddie but I've a feeling its going to be some one we don't expect. Barry will actually meet him in the episode in 2 weeks time but won't see his face as its vibrating.

EoinMcLovin · 27-11-2014 1:26pm

Easter Egg for names Wells mentioned died in the explosion
Ralph Dibny - Elongated Man
Will Everett- Amazing Man
Al Rothstein - Atom Smasher
Bea de Costa - Fire
Grant Emerson - Damage

27-11-2014 1:38pm

Always preferred Plastic Man

PirateShampoo · 28-11-2014 10:47pm

EoinMcLovin wrote: »

Easter Egg for names Wells mentioned died in the explosion
Ralph Dibny - Elongated Man
Will Everett- Amazing Man
Al Rothstein - Atom Smasher
Bea de Costa - Fire
Grant Emerson - Damage

You missed Ronnie who is Firestorm.

EoinMcLovin · 28-11-2014 10:50pm

PirateShampoo wrote: »

You missed Ronnie who is Firestorm.

Yeah I know, but most people know about him already

EoinMcLovin · 03-12-2014 11:47am

Excellent episode. Diggle's reaction to Barry was hilarious and the Arrow vs Flash fight was brilliant. Firestorm looks good

Mr E · 03-12-2014 12:21pm

Yeah it was great fun, especially the actual fight.
Diggle doing jokes was a bit 'off' though.... a bit out of character for him.

EoinMcLovin · 03-12-2014 12:30pm

Mr E wrote: »

Yeah it was great fun, especially the actual fight.
Diggle doing jokes was a bit 'off' though.... a bit out of character for him.

Yeah he was definitely out of character but Flash is the "fun" show while Arrow is the serious one. Can't wait for the Arrow episode tonight with Captain Boomerang. They are really hinting about Connor Hawke now with oliver meeting sandra

GottaGetGatt · 03-12-2014 8:04pm

EoinMcLovin wrote: »

Yeah he was definitely out of character but Flash is the "fun" show while Arrow is the serious one. Can't wait for the Arrow episode tonight with Captain Boomerang. They are really hinting about Connor Hawke now with oliver meeting sandra

i was thinking when they were talking, who the hell she was and then when her phone rang i remembered the flashbacks in Arrow season 2.

Pity that scene will be lost on a lot of people here who don't watch Arrow.

CastorTroy · 04-12-2014 12:33am

It was good to see the Arrow cast more light hearted. Haven't seen Ollie smile as often in 1 episode of his own show.
And Felicity is always able to keep us happy with what she's wearing and not wearing. That dress last time, not her top this time.

And Cisco getting an "I told you so" moment with his comment about the cold gun.

Was trying to think who the one at the end was, then remembered. Ollie acted at first like he didn't remember her. At least that's how I talk to someone while trying to think where I know them from. Wonder will we see more of her or if was just to remind us she's still around.

Though did find it strange they were they for Captain Boomerang yet there was no indication he was there.

SherlockWatson · 04-12-2014 2:52am

CastorTroy wrote: »

Though did find it strange they were they for Captain Boomerang yet there was no indication he was there.

That's because he's Arrow's bad guy, not The Flash's, I'm sure he'll appear on Arrow tomorrow.

challengemaster · 04-12-2014 2:53am

CastorTroy wrote: »

Though did find it strange they were they for Captain Boomerang yet there was no indication he was there.

Looks like it's being covered in the Arrow

https://www.facebook.com/CWArrow/photos/a.132531336884907.23870.104137579724283/491423710995666/?type=1&theater

RobbingBandit · 04-12-2014 3:56am

Liked Oliver saying Wells is dodgy, definitely think he is a major DC Universe villain also Eddie showing a bit of interest in The Flash hope we see something concrete on whether he is Professor Zoom/Reverse Fash or just a mind **** red herring thrown in to screw with comic book fans. Given that the Multi verse hypothesis is the DC flavour of the month/year at the moment anything is possible, liked the Palmer name popping up in this episode too, great show so far.

Kirby · 04-12-2014 1:05pm

I'm liking this more than I thought I would. The flash is just a better hero than the Arrow. He has a super power. The Arrow doesn't......and Oliver Queen is no Bruce Wayne to compensate for that.

I find I'm rooting for the guy who plays the flash where I just want punch the guy playing the Arrow.

_Kaiser_ · 04-12-2014 10:45pm

Another solid episode this week. I don't follow Arrow though so I'm guessing I'll need to get that paritcular one for the last 10 mins to make sense?

Felicity is just fabulous though

- but Barry needs to stop pining after Iris and look at what's right in front of him (Caitlin) -

but with her ex now back on the scene that budding romance may die a quick death anyway

tvnutz · 04-12-2014 10:58pm

Kirby wrote: »

I'm liking this more than I thought I would. The flash is just a better hero than the Arrow. He has a super power. The Arrow doesn't......and Oliver Queen is no Bruce Wayne to compensate for that.

I find I'm rooting for the guy who plays the flash where I just want punch the guy playing the Arrow.

Nah, superpowers are too easy, Arrow is so much better because he is just a guy but he has all the gizos and stuff! Just like how Batman is betetr than Superman, its too easy and no real tension or effort for the guy with superpowers.

This was a good episode, probably because Arrow was in it. Still think the show suffers from its supporting cast.

Soft Falling Rain · 05-12-2014 9:05am

Kirby wrote: »

I'm liking this more than I thought I would. The flash is just a better hero than the Arrow. He has a super power. The Arrow doesn't......and Oliver Queen is no Bruce Wayne to compensate for that.

I find I'm rooting for the guy who plays the flash where I just want punch the guy playing the Arrow.

Interesting comment re Bruce and Oliver, as I think this is what I struggled with in relation to getting into Arrow.

Simply, I feel like a lot of aspects of Bruce have been used for this version of Oliver. A lot of borrowing has been done of the Bat universe, but they might argue it's all one big universe to be used however they want.

What sums it up is the pending arrival of a major Batman foe.

I just find The Flash much easier to embrace.

EoinMcLovin · 08-12-2014 4:03pm

Casting News

Mark Hamill will guest-star this season, reprising his role from the 1990s edition of the superhero series as James Jesse aka The Trickster

http://www.hitfix.com/whats-alan-watching/exclusive-mark-hamill-to-play-the-trickster-again-on-the-flash/

08-12-2014 4:17pm

EoinMcLovin wrote: »

Casting News
Mark Hamill will guest-star this season, reprising his role from the 1990s edition of the superhero series as James Jesse aka The Trickster

http://www.hitfix.com/whats-alan-watching/exclusive-mark-hamill-to-play-the-trickster-again-on-the-flash/

Sweeeeeet. He has to go all

Joker Voice

on it though. Vague recollections of the 1990 version

challengemaster · 09-12-2014 7:28pm

Extra 2 minutes in the mid-season finale (tonight) -

Andrew Kreisberg wrote:

As much as this episode is the biggest action, the biggest visual effects and the biggest canvas that we’ve ever painted on, in these first nine episodes, there’s also so much heart and humor and emotion. Invariably, some of that great stuff ends up on the cutting room floor, just simply for time’s sake. We really credit Mark Pedowitz and everyone at The CW for being so supportive of us. They didn’t want a single minute to get lost, so they gave us the extra time. It really benefits the episode because there really is not a wasted moment in it. It would have been a real shame for one of these great moments to wind up in the dust bin and not be a part of making this episode as amazing as it is.

Nervous Wreck · 09-12-2014 9:39pm

Soft Falling Rain wrote: »

Interesting comment re Bruce and Oliver, as I think this is what I struggled with in relation to getting into Arrow.

Simply, I feel like a lot of aspects of Bruce have been used for this version of Oliver. A lot of borrowing has been done of the Bat universe, but they might argue it's all one big universe to be used however they want.

What sums it up is the pending arrival of a major Batman foe.

I just find The Flash much easier to embrace.

Originally, Green Arrow was a huge Batman rip-off. He had an Arrowmobile and an Arrowcave, which they kept making fun of in the crossovers.

Mr E · 10-12-2014 9:37am

Great episode, at least we now know who the reverse flash is NOT.... or do we? Anyone want to explain to me what the coda was about?

Thwip! · 10-12-2014 11:56am

Mr E wrote: »

Great episode, at least we now know who the reverse flash is NOT.... or do we? Anyone want to explain to me what the coda was about?

The Wells bit?

Potential chance that he is the Zolomon version of Zoom/reverse Flash (which stands to reason, and something I've been suspecting...I could end up wrong though)

Him having a ring (where in the comics Flash's costume is kept) is a need nod. So he is either Zoom/Reverse Flash (Zolomon) and the one we saw attack him is him from a different place in time (BECAUSE TIME TRAVEL/FLASHPOINT)

OR...

He's aiding Reverse Flash, which I highly doubt

OR...

This is a different Reverse Flash, maybe Eddie from the Future, hence why he didn't kill Eddie

OR

I have my own little theory which I'm still working on

EoinMcLovin · 10-12-2014 1:40pm

Great episode especially Firestorm.
In relation to ending

I think Wells creates the suit and the Reverse Flash that attacked him is related to Eddie in some way. If you rewatch the ending, when Wells says Merry Christmas you can see that his wounds have healed so he is definitely a speedster like Barry or a meta human. Revealing him with the yellow suit this early is a tease and he is probably a different speeder as when he attached the device it added the speed force to the suit

Also

with Cisco mentioning there being 2 speedsters present during Nora Allen's murder it looks like Barry saves his kid self

If you want to read some theories, I find the Flash Sub reddit to be great
http://nt.reddit.com/r/FlashTV/new/

GodlessM · 10-12-2014 2:22pm

I like your thoughts Eoin.

I reckon the Reverse we saw is either Eddie from the future as the whole thing of 'we did this before' he says to the Flash definitely implies time travel to me.

I reckon Harrison is one of the other Flashes from the future come back right at the moment to save Barry. Either that or he is Barry. Bart maybe? Only flaw I see in this theory is that he built and empowered the Reverse Flash suit.

Quite the conundrum the writers have drummed up for us.

CastorTroy · 10-12-2014 10:46pm

My theory, though unlikely, is

With the doctor from the 90s series in this episode with the same name, a man in red fighting the man in yellow and Barry's dad being played by 90s Flash maybe Barry's dad was a speedster as well

Surely after what the cops have seen, they can testify that there was a man in yellow that could move fast and get Barry's dad another hearing, at least?

RobbingBandit · 11-12-2014 2:01am

Dr Wells ring was gold rather than red for Barry or yellow for the Reverse Flash, Firestorm is two entities fused as one so it is not just Ronny rather it is Ronny and another person not yet named, I think this is a Multiverse related show, the fact that Wells is an as yet unknown character in the DC universe, man this show gives me migraines.

Seeing as he had a Gold Ring could Dr Wells be Jay Garrick The Flash of the Golden Age, I'm really over thinking this.

11-12-2014 10:40am

Was the head of Mercury the actress that played the Caitlin-esque character in the 1990 show?

EoinMcLovin · 11-12-2014 11:46am

Deleted User wrote: »

Was the head of Mercury the actress that played the Caitlin-esque character in the 1990 show?

Yup

11-12-2014 11:47am

EoinMcLovin wrote: »

Yup

Thought so, had a massive crush on that character as a kid.

I could just have used imdb to find out but what's the point in that

googled eyes · 11-12-2014 11:49am

So many possibilities !

So its obvious that Well's is a speedster. I doubt he's the Reverse Flash, I'm still going with the idea that Eddie ( or a descendant ) is RF.

I initially thought Wells could be Barry from the future and he was stuck here after coming back to try and save his mother/ stop Reverse Flash.

Now I don't know what to think

I like what they're doing with Firestorm, looking forward to seeing more of him

_Kaiser_ · 11-12-2014 10:51pm

Another great episode this week. can't really add anything to the theories above (I only vaguely remember the original series and not any additional spin-off stuff) but the writers have really done a great job in the 9 episodes so far.

I assume there's a break for a while now? Has this been green-lit for a 2nd season?

challengemaster · 12-12-2014 2:10am

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They've posted a trailer on The Flash facebook page for anyone interested

googled eyes · 12-12-2014 11:11am

I hate these mid season breaks.

Mc Love · 13-12-2014 6:27pm

Jaysus lads whats with the spoilers? You are discussing the latest episode, there's no need for em

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