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All Things Met Eireann Related Go in Here (MOD NOTE #1)

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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 31,117 ✭✭✭✭snubbleste


    Anyone hear Evelyn on Christmas Day Radio1 ~1250?
    She was waffling on and then said "I've run out of time to do the coastal reports, but have a happy Christmas" :eek:


  • Posts: 14,344 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    This is probably in the wrong thread (but I can't see a 'general chat' thread, so this seems to be the closest thing?) but does anyone have any idea what kind of summer we're gonna be in for this year?

    I know it's a few months away (if we get one!), so not expecting details like an hourly forecast :P But was wondering if all the storms that are happening at the moment might mean anything long term in terms of whether or not our summer will be a washout out or not? I flick in and out of the weather forum a fair bit, but i've no knowledge of it. (ie; the graphs that are posted regularly are like a different language to me, despite most on here kinda knowing what's going on in them). :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,785 ✭✭✭piuswal


    The direct answer is

    a; current storms are no indicators of what is likely for the Irish summer
    b; there is little if any information currently available that would give you any useful information as to what th esummer might be


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,323 ✭✭✭highdef


    does anyone have any idea what kind of summer we're gonna be in for this year?

    Summer this year is over for several months now, I'm sorry to tell you


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,817 ✭✭✭Comhrá


    Anyone notice the Met.ie website being very slow to load today? I'm waiting ages for the radar to refresh.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,466 ✭✭✭Lumi


    tippman1 wrote: »
    Anyone notice the Met.ie website being very slow to load today? I'm waiting ages for the radar to refresh.

    It's loading fine for me - try clearing your cache/cookies and see if that helps.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,817 ✭✭✭Comhrá


    Lumi wrote: »
    It's loading fine for me - try clearing your cache/cookies and see if that helps.

    Seems quicker to load now. (Cleared cookies/Cashe in Firefox) Thx.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,951 ✭✭✭✭Villain


    Anyone have any idea what this long range forecast system is meant to be?
    Minister Harris also said that the Cabinet is due to approve the introduction of a new long-range weather-forecasting system when it meets tomorrow afternoon.

    He said the system will ensure the Government has the most accurate forecasts - but it will take several months to put in place.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,530 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    Villain wrote: »
    Anyone have any idea what this long range forecast system is meant to be?
    I've only ever heard Met Eireann being adamant that they can only accurately forecast a week ahead - 10 days if you push it - after that they're really only guessing.

    So fascinated to see what this will be about. Maybe it's a flood-forecasting system of some sort?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,708 ✭✭✭Speak Now


    Villain wrote: »
    Anyone have any idea what this long range forecast system is meant to be?

    Seeing as the idea came up at such short notice I'd doubt they've fully thought it through yet. Will probably be along the lines of if we get a wet spell of weather then your area is more at risk etc. Can't see it meaning Met Eireann are suddenly going to start issuing seasonal forecasting.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,780 ✭✭✭✭ninebeanrows


    My best guess is that Met Eireann will begin to fully roll out the use of the extended range ECMWF forecast suite.

    This includes comprehensive details of the weather in the coming 4 weeks, released twice weekly.

    They also offer Seasonal forecasts.

    Hopefully it means that Met Eireann can hire a specific Long Range Forecaster or 5 and take full advantage of the governments pledge ;)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,995 ✭✭✭Schadenfreudia



    Hopefully it means that Met Eireann can hire a specific Long Range Forecaster or 5 and take full advantage of the governments pledge ;)

    Would you be in the market for such a job?? ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,134 ✭✭✭✭maquiladora


    Villain wrote: »
    Anyone have any idea what this long range forecast system is meant to be?

    Long term flood forecast system. My guess would be something like a system that sends our early warnings for rainfall to relative agencies based on ECMWF data.
    A long term flood forecasting system, proposed by the Office of Public Works and the Department of the Environment, which was approved in principle by the Cabinet before Christmas, will also be discussed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,178 ✭✭✭pauldry


    Id do the job for nothing. I spend my whole life trying to issue long range weather forecasts.....

    Like we all do

    Perhaps they should just hire all of us


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,565 ✭✭✭Pangea


    Villain wrote: »
    Anyone have any idea what this long range forecast system is meant to be?
    Word has it they have made a deal with the Postman


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,812 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    So is it going to be long range weather forecasting or long term flood forecasting?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,951 ✭✭✭✭Villain


    No details were announced that I saw


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,995 ✭✭✭Schadenfreudia


    Met E are looking for 15 new employees...some of you might get lucky!

    It says the 15 will be employed by ME and the OPW.....not sure why the OPW needs meteorologists...

    (Given that ME exists)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,780 ✭✭✭✭ninebeanrows


    Met E are looking for 15 new employees...some of you might get lucky!

    It says the 15 will be employed by ME and the OPW.....not sure why the OPW needs meteorologists...

    (Given that ME exists)

    Didn't they hire c. 15 people recently?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,134 ✭✭✭✭maquiladora


    Met E are looking for 15 new employees...some of you might get lucky!

    It says the 15 will be employed by ME and the OPW.....not sure why the OPW needs meteorologists...

    (Given that ME exists)

    I guess this is to do with the long range flood forecasting? The request for that came from the OPW I believe.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,995 ✭✭✭Schadenfreudia


    Didn't they hire c. 15 people recently?

    Maybe we are talking about the same 15? :confused:

    (This is my source http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/storms/the-coalitions-12point-plan-for-floods-34342626.html )
    2 Flood forecasting unit to be established
    The unit, which will be jointly run by Met Éireann and the OPW, is to be used to provide long term weather forecasts for periods in excess of 20 days. An additional 15 staff will be hired, but the unit is unlikely to be in operation for at least two years.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,995 ✭✭✭Schadenfreudia


    I've just noticed the "two years" bit.

    That doesn't make it sound very serious, does it? :(


  • Registered Users Posts: 222 ✭✭Wx



    ME sought a Head of Climatology and 8 Meteorologists last year, mostly to fill vacancies I suspect.

    They are currently recruiting a Head of Aviation Services


  • Registered Users Posts: 222 ✭✭Wx



    The idea of a joint authority sounds ominous.

    The previous Government set up various studies, reports and responses to previous severe flooding and gave OPW the lead role

    They focused on hard engineering responses (their forte) and despite some initial ME input, medium/long range forecasting was ignored; no sharing with OPW!

    Why the need for joint control?

    As far as I know ME supplies a coastal flood warning service to DCC, Fingal and Dublin South County without the need for joint control. I assume they agreed with the CCs what outputs/inputs they needed and now they supply them to the CCs flood response decision system.


  • Registered Users Posts: 706 ✭✭✭blackvalley


    On the Met Eireann weather forecast at 12.55 today it was announced that we could expect the " first dusting " of snow this Winter to arrive on the Wicklow mountains tonight.
    If the forecaster had bothered to take her head away from all the high tech equipment and computer screens , opened the window of her office in Glasnevin and glanced south westward she would have observed that snow had already arrived on the hills.
    Some chance of forecasting thirty days ahead as promised under the new long term plan if you cannot spot something that has already happened :eek::rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,161 ✭✭✭tphase


    " first dusting " of snow this Winter
    I'm afraid they got that bit wrong too...there was snow on the 12 Bens on Christmas day


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,995 ✭✭✭Schadenfreudia


    tphase wrote: »
    I'm afraid they got that bit wrong too...there was snow on the 12 Bens on Christmas day

    They were wrong even if they referred only to the Wicklow Mountains :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,918 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    Has anyone heard how long Shannon Radar will be down for ?


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 4,467 Mod ✭✭✭✭mickger844posts


    Discodog wrote: »
    Has anyone heard how long Shannon Radar will be down for ?

    It's been down a few days now. On the many previous down times they would have some sort of explanation on their website but nothing as of this morning. Very unsatisfactory from Met Eireann.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,817 ✭✭✭Comhrá


    It's been down a few days now. On the many previous down times they would have some sort of explanation on their website but nothing as of this morning. Very unsatisfactory from Met Eireann.


    Email responses from Met Eireann are generally not great. Over the years I have emailed them from their website over various subjects and the response rate would be 50% approx. Not great in the pr dept.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,776 ✭✭✭Bsal


    As of 0900 the Belfast radar is down too so that means right now Ireland has zero radar coverage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,918 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    Bsal wrote: »
    As of 0900 the Belfast radar is down too so that means right now Ireland has zero radar coverage.

    Dublin is ok.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,776 ✭✭✭Bsal


    Discodog wrote: »
    Dublin is ok.

    Oh, I was using netweather's radar app and the UKMO aviation site and all 3 radars are not providing data to them. Checked ME site and indeed Dublin is working there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,530 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    tippman1 wrote: »
    Email responses from Met Eireann are generally not great. Over the years I have emailed them from their website over various subjects and the response rate would be 50% approx. Not great in the pr dept.
    On the one occasion I had call to email them (about a mistake in their sea area forecast) they were back to me in jig time with an explanation (of sorts) and apology, and the forecast was fixed pronto.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 4,467 Mod ✭✭✭✭mickger844posts


    I see the radar colour representing light precipitation has changed this morning. It's a very light blue colour and a lot easier to see. A big improvement on the previous blue which was similar to the colour of the sea.


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 12,069 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    Was in Killarney National Park yesterday and took a couple of pictures of the weather station in Muckross, thought it looked a bit overgrown around it and not in such an ideal location which could affect Temp and rainfall amounts. Compare with a picture I came across from 2006 which I think was taken around that year.

    2016
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    2016
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    2006
    jPhLAAf.jpg


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    Hello? Weather? Did I miss it?

    ah here it is.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,918 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    Just watched the farming forecast. Why do ME use such a wide area map ? It's impossible to see the detail over Ireland. The UK Met forecast is so much more detailed. According to ME this week is a washout in Galway. UK Met & yr.no suggest that Galway won't be too bad - in fact yr.no has it as a pretty dry week.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,817 ✭✭✭Comhrá


    Looking at the Met Eireann website, there's a section listing major weather events over the years:

    http://www.met.ie/climate-ireland/major-events.asp

    I'm disappointed to see that none of the links describing the specific events appear to work. Does anyone know if this is just a temporary glitch or is it a work in progress?


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,153 Mod ✭✭✭✭DOCARCH


    Mod Note: Popped this into the appropriate thread. No need for a new thread as that archive has been online for many years...and...links work for me?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,817 ✭✭✭Comhrá


    DOCARCH wrote: »
    Mod Note: Popped this into the appropriate thread. No need for a new thread as that archive has been online for many years...and...links work for me?

    I just tried a different browser (Microsoft Edge) and the links work fine. :o

    When I use my default browser (Firefox) the links just threw up blank white pages.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,666 ✭✭✭✭sryanbruen


    tippman1 wrote: »
    Looking at the Met Eireann website, there's a section listing major weather events over the years:

    http://www.met.ie/climate-ireland/major-events.asp

    I'm disappointed to see that none of the links describing the specific events appear to work. Does anyone know if this is just a temporary glitch or is it a work in progress?

    It's also disappointing how they're missing many major weather events I can think of right now.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,288 ✭✭✭mickmackey1


    Looks like the Met Eireann site has been given a makeover :)

    http://www.met.ie/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,666 ✭✭✭✭sryanbruen


    Looks like the Met Eireann site has been given a makeover :)

    http://www.met.ie/

    Apart from it zoomed in (no I have my zoom on the average 100%), what is there different about it?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,288 ✭✭✭mickmackey1


    sryanbruen wrote: »
    Apart from it zoomed in (no I have my zoom on the average 100%), what is there different about it?
    Is it just a zoom in job? Font, colours etc look different to me. Actual layout seems much the same admittedly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,776 ✭✭✭Bsal


    Only the font looks different to me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    bump, if only to be able to find it again.


    Two things have been bugging me

    A) the lack of a timeframe in RTE weather graphics, the day of the week doesn't really cut it and the often casual language used by the forecasters often gives a vague idea of when the weather will arrive, progress across Ireland and leave. I want a clock on the close up graphics! :)

    B) Is there an "official" forecast? One that is agreed by the Met Eireann team and then transferred to the teleprompter script so it's the same regardless of whoever happens to be stood in front of the camera (or radio mic)?


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,647 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    Please fix the android app so that it doesn't default to Dublin. Keeps on forgetting my location as did the old website. Ty!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,785 ✭✭✭piuswal


    bump, if only to be able to find it again.


    Two things have been bugging me

    A) the lack of a timeframe in RTE weather graphics, the day of the week doesn't really cut it and the often casual language used by the forecasters often gives a vague idea of when the weather will arrive, progress across Ireland and leave. I want a clock on the close up graphics! :)

    B) Is there an "official" forecast? One that is agreed by the Met Eireann team and then transferred to the teleprompter script so it's the same regardless of whoever happens to be stood in front of the camera (or radio mic)?

    As I understand it there are two teams in RTE.

    1. The Met Eireann meteorologists; Jean Byrne, Gerry Murphy, Joanna Donnelly, Siobhan Ryan and Michelle Dillon and

    2. The RTE Weather Presenters who make up the rest of the on air team

    see

    https://www.rte.ie/news/weather-team/

    This needs updating as Evelyn Cusack is now Head of General Forecasting Division and no longer broadcasts.

    There maybe one new RTE presenter but Im not sure about that,

    The Met Eireann meteorologist on duty prepares the various forecasts with overall guidance text; Each presenter uses that to prepare their individualbroadcasts. Whether they then use autocue I'm not sure but as far as I know the Met Eireann broadcasters do not use the autocue.

    So yes, there is an "official" forecast, but individuals adjust the wording to suit their own style. The sequence of graphics effectively is the visual manifestation of the "official forecast".

    Radio forecasts are broadcast from ME HQ in Glasnevin and all are done by Met Eireann forecsasters and as such are the "official forecasts".

    The Forecasters on duty in Glasnevin and those in RTE are in regular communication with each other and between them dtermine the"official forecast" with the lead coming from the Operations Office in Glasnevin which has access to ALL met info and models with a team of meteorologists working together.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    Why do they keep doing this?

    As taken from saorview broadcast of lunchtime weather with the corner graphic inserted. You'll note the showery graphic for the south coast in the insert, tomorrow really needs no comment!

    2Lphx.jpg

    2LphA.jpg


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