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Dead_Rabbits

Rougies wrote: »

He worded it like a true pro though, with words like, IF, MIGHT, POTENTIAL, POSSIBLE etc. before any mention of snow. We all know it's a bit of a ramp though

Better then Met E they just say "Rain"


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maquiladora

Dead_Rabbits wrote: »

Better then Met E they just say "Rain"

Well I hope M.T.'s forecast is right.

But remember, a forecast isn't better just because it's the forecast you want to hear.

There is still a lot of things that can change before Sunday that could easily make it an all rain event on low levels.

I'd seriously advice people not to raise their expectations at this stage.

Tom Cruises Left Nut

Hope the nerves ain't getting to Gerry !

Dead_Rabbits

t|nt|n wrote: »

Hope the nerves ain't getting to Gerry !

A Nation holds its breath!

Villain

All eyes to RTE1

Villain

Umm Gerry Wet you say? Umm

ninebeanrows

Just WOW. He hasn't mentioned the Snow word not even Sleet.

This is really shocking.

Is he doing it on purpose? Because any objective forecast would mention snow.

Deank

Lots of mention of misht from Gerry, no mention of snow or schleet for the weekends forecast; he must have magic forecasting models.;)

Tom Cruises Left Nut

Villain wrote: »

Umm Gerry Wet you say? Umm

And yet the met website says this ???

Cold with heavy rain spreading to all areas overnight Thursday with falls of 10 to 20mm in places overnight. Towards dawn on Friday, the rain will clear from much of Munster.
Friday: A cloudy wet start in many parts of the midlands and north but the rain will become confined to Ulster during the morning however it will stay cloudy and wet here for much of the day, some sleet or wet snow likely at times, mostly on higher ground. Elsewhere Friday will be a bright, mostly dry day with sunny spells but some showers near the south and west coasts. Cold and frosty on Friday night with fog also and icy stretches.
Saturday: Saturday will be mainly dry and bright with frost clearing, though it will stay cold with afternoon temperatures of 4 to 7 degrees. Very cold and frosty on Saturday night with fog also, risk of icy stretches.

Sunday: A cold and frosty start for many on Sunday morning, but clearing through the morning. Increasing wind and cloud will bring heavy rain into Munster by early afternoon and to most places by early Sunday night. Some very heavy falls in places ( 25mm possible) and some falls of sleet and snow are likely also, especially on higher ground.

Extended outlook is for the cold and unsettled weather to persist. Rain on Monday with some wintry precipitation likely, especially on higher ground, but drier periods at times on Tuesday and Wednesday but showers as well, some wintry.

ninebeanrows

I must say i am shocked by the forecast, he seemed to almost go out of his way to fail to mention sleet or snow.

I will hold back from a full scathing review.

Min

I hope this is not going to be another Gerry Murphy bashing for not being a snow ramper, so far he hasn't been wrong.
Met Eireann could have ramped for snow on Friday given the UK met warning which covered a part of Ireland, but they didn't and were correct.

Tom Cruises Left Nut

Weathercheck wrote: »

I must say i am shocked by the forecast, he seemed to almost go out of his way to fail to mention sleet or snow.

I will hold back from a full scathing review.

Im with you, it was shocking, especially when their website mentions it

BEASTERLY

Meanwhile outside ME hq...

derekon

Standard winter fare there from Gerry Murphy on the 9.30 weather forecast.

Temps tomorrow between +8oC on the east cost to +10oc down South. RAIN will then spread eastwards over the country tomorrow night.

Friday will bring more RAIN in the east and north with temps of around +5oC and +6oC (this is the rain that will be snow over Britain and paste most of that island). The word "sleet" was not mentioned, never mind "snow".

Still Gerry can only go on what is to hand. However I thought the 12z ECM was an upgrade for snow?

D

One criticism Gerry, from your forecast it could be October and you would never have guessed that both the UK and Europe were currently in the fridge. Just no overview given of the wider European picture ..................to be fair to Evelyn, she always does. But she is the snow rampers' pin up girl

rc28

Weathercheck wrote: »

I must say i am shocked by the forecast, he seemed to almost go out of his way to fail to mention sleet or snow.

I will hold back from a full scathing review.

I wouldn't have minded if he just didn't deal with the weekend and next week but he in fact did and resolutely chose to inform the viewers that it would be all "rain" and "wet".

Even the most conservative of forecasters would have pointed to the risk of wintry precip for people who live on high ground. Unbelievable stuff.

pad199207

Imagine if it all turns out the way Gerry has said it in that forecast....... oh jesus

Btw some Uk forecasters on twitter are getting itchy feet about this trend of westward of the front this evening! "Eggscellent!

Mr Cumulonimbus

Curious at this stage now at ME's forecast. Whatever about lower levels, surely a hint of a possibility of some sleet/snow at higher elevations was worthy of mention?

Min

pad199207 wrote: »

Imagine if it all turns out the way Gerry has said it in that forecast....... oh jesus

Btw some Uk forecasters on twitter are getting itchy feet about this trend of westward of the front this evening! "Eggscellent!

If Gerry is correct, I will just laugh, if not I will be like Gerry, not laughing.

Dead_Rabbits

rc28 wrote: »

I wouldn't have minded if he just didn't deal with the weekend and next week but he in fact did and resolutely chose to inform the viewers that it would be all "rain" and "wet".

Even the most conservative of forecasters would have pointed to the risk of wintry precip for people who live on high ground. Unbelievable stuff.

I mentioned early be it on them if people are misinformed and get caught short, at least implying a RISK can put the idea in people head to be on the look out for something more serious!

Musicman2000

Min wrote: »

If Gerry is correct, I will just laugh, if not I will be like Gerry, not laughing.

All will be revealed on the mornings ooz runs:) and if Gerry is right it will be very quiet in here:)

maquiladora

It's only Wednesday lads. If there is still a risk of snow somewhere on Friday then they will mention it tomorrow. Relax, jaysus...

pauldry

Min wrote: »

I hope this is not going to be another Gerry Murphy bashing for not being a snow ramper, so far he hasn't been wrong.
Met Eireann could have ramped for snow on Friday given the UK met warning which covered a part of Ireland, but they didn't and were correct.

Hi Gerry
I didn't mean it
The truth just hurts that Atlantic has won.
Please mt make him wrong

Min

JanuarySnowstor wrote: »

If it does snow he should be sent for public flogging
Unbelievable

That sounds a bit like sending those scientists to jail for not predicting the Earthquake that hit L'Aquila in Italy.
http://edition.cnn.com/2012/10/23/world/europe/italy-quake-scientists-guilty/index.html

JanuarySnowstor

Further correction westwards is right
We are now under an Easterly by Saturday lunchtime.
Didn't Gerry have us under a Westerly ??

DOCARCH

Min wrote: »

That sounds a bit like sending those scientists to jail for not predicting the Earthquake that hit L'Aquila in Italy.
http://edition.cnn.com/2012/10/23/world/europe/italy-quake-scientists-guilty/index.html

Ah, it's only a bit of fun.

I agreee that it's too early for ME to call it.

Shouldn't you be in the other thread (the mild one!)? :rolleyes:

sumo12

Oh fear of fears, I fear Gerry is right. ME are pretty good at not ramping (unlike us, they tend not to salivate at the thought of a snowflake) and in fairness, they've called it pretty right so far, so there's nothing to suggest they will be wrong this time either. Forgive me, I am but a mere snow chaser, I can only stare blankly at your colour coded diagrams and charts and wish I could glean knowledge from them.. I'll get my coat....

5500

Gerry "La Fiesta" Murphy, The auld lad always shouts out when he comes on "its gonna bleedin rain or be cloudy, not a chance will it snow when he's on" Hope he aint right!

Rougies

icesnowfrost wrote: »

Anyone catch the 9 news/weather wat was said

I can tell you what was NOT said. The word "snow". Also "sleet", not said.

Deank

icesnowfrost wrote: »

Anyone catch the 9 news/weather wat was said

Gerry said rain and misht, not mention of snow or even schleet:rolleyes:

delw

Scubadevils wrote: »

Must be somewhat of a record amount viewing here?!

they all didn't trust Gerry's forecast so must of came here to check

compsys

Min wrote: »

I hope this is not going to be another Gerry Murphy bashing for not being a snow ramper, so far he hasn't been wrong.
Met Eireann could have ramped for snow on Friday given the UK met warning which covered a part of Ireland, but they didn't and were correct.

You're completely correct.

I think everyone here is bashing Gerry just because he hasn't forecast what people wanted to hear.

Again, he's the professional here and Met E don't usually get it wrong this close to an event.

Yes, they got things wrong last week when they tried to do a mid-range forecast based solely on the ECM outputs (which was unwise) but they rarely get it wrong 48 hours before an event.

I'd love to be wrong but my heart tells me I'm not.

flanzer

Weathercheck wrote: »

we will set up an 'event' thread if the morning models warrant one.

Snowy dreams to all.

Maybe Gerry and ME are waiting for this to happen before they start mentioning the 'S' word!

Blizzard 2010

Going by the present models (except GFS) I would not rule out a wintry weekend with snow. Its still only midweek anything could happen within the next 24 - 48 hours. Met Eireann have to play it safe. I must say I was a little surprised by the weather forecast which Gerry Murphy gave. I actually thought he was refering to the Oz charts

E. Fudd

FWVT wrote: »

ME have been spot on all week. As the usual rampers have been on here chasing their tails, ME have been generating accurate forecasts. Forecasts that have not been what people wanted to hear but their job is not to please a pack of snowbunnies on a discussion board but to say it as it is. There is time enough to mention snow tomorrow if and when the chances grow to more than the current remote.

People need to grow up a little. Many are dillusional to think that they know more than a national weather service and that members of this service may change their forecasts based on what is posted by some on here. ECMWF members also have access to 06 and 18Z ECMWF model runs at 1-hr steps out to 90 hours. They have a plethora of extra parameters in all the models, many more than are available to us, plus experience, so I think they know what they're doing.

Hi Gerry!

Slashermcguirk

FWVT wrote: »

ME have been spot on all week. As the usual rampers have been on here chasing their tails, ME have been generating accurate forecasts. Forecasts that have not been what people wanted to hear but their job is not to please a pack of snowbunnies on a discussion board but to say it as it is. There is time enough to mention snow tomorrow if and when the chances grow to more than the current remote.

People need to grow up a little. Many are dillusional to think that they know more than a national weather service and that members of this service may change their forecasts based on what is posted by some on here. ECMWF members also have access to 06 and 18Z ECMWF model runs at 1-hr steps out to 90 hours. They have a plethora of extra parameters in all the models, many more than are available to us, plus experience, so I think they know what they're doing.

This is the thing, met eireann have been wrong time and again. They have changed their forecasts consistently, I could show you quote from few days ago saying snow accumulations in the east and north easy for Tuesday night and today. They just change their mind day before. Their forecast beyond a day or two have been consistently off.

In fairness, weather models have been so erratic but changing forecast every day doesn't exactly count as correct forecasting!!

Wickerman1

I think ME are on the same roller coaster as us! Whether they at the front or the back remains to be seen!
Miss Su at times like this, his comments always spiced things up even though it often wasn't what we wanted to here.

Oscar Bravo

Its 5 to midnight lets head over to Met Eireann on Rte Radio 1 for the latest.....

Min

Evelyn has said unfortunately it looks like we will have bitterly cold easterlies next week, risk of snow in the north east of the country on Friday and turning a lot colder over the weekend.

Danno

Fair play Evelyn...

Calls snow risk for Friday in the NE and Ulster.

Bitterly cold east winds setting in thenafter.

RTE Radio 1

Mr Cumulonimbus

Evelyn mentioned the risk of sleet/snow in Ulster and NE Leinster on Friday going into Saturday on the 2355 forecast on radio 1. Bitter easterly winds setting in next week. Further details on the 0755 forecast. Upgrade!

compsys

FWVT wrote: »

ME have been spot on all week. As the usual rampers have been on here chasing their tails, ME have been generating accurate forecasts. Forecasts that have not been what people wanted to hear but their job is not to please a pack of snowbunnies on a discussion board but to say it as it is. There is time enough to mention snow tomorrow if and when the chances grow to more than the current remote.

People need to grow up a little. Many are dillusional to think that they know more than a national weather service and that members of this service may change their forecasts based on what is posted by some on here. ECMWF members also have access to 06 and 18Z ECMWF model runs at 1-hr steps out to 90 hours. They have a plethora of extra parameters in all the models, many more than are available to us, plus experience, so I think they know what they're doing.

Well said.

Look, we ALL want to see snow but that shouldn't make this ramping thread become a delusional thread.

Let's face is, precipitation moving in from the Atlantic is rarely ever going to fall as snow, especially when we don't have any established cold.

It's midnight in the pit of winter and the temperature in Dublin is 6 degrees. It's forecast to reach 10 in some places tomorrow. That's on the mild side even for Ireland.

Don't bash ME for telling it as it is.

Min

Evelyn not wanting the cold and snow it seems, because she said "unfortunately".

DOCARCH

Min wrote: »

Evelyn not wanting the cold and snow it seems, because she said "unfortunately".

No doubt with her tounge in her cheek - she loves a bit of snow!

Larbre34

Min wrote: »

Evelyn not wanting the cold and snow it seems, because she said "unfortunately".

Well yes, as a public service whose purpose is to warn of risk to the vulnerable, that will always be the angle.

Min

DOCARCH wrote: »

No doubt with her tounge in her cheek - she loves a bit of snow!

Probably like quiet weather where they won't be hassled by the media or public.

Blizzard 2010

compsys wrote: »

Well said.

Look, we ALL want to see snow but that shouldn't make this ramping thread become a delusional thread.

Let's face is, precipitation moving in from the Atlantic is rarely ever going to fall as snow, especially when we don't have any established cold.

It's midnight in the pit of winter and the temperature in Dublin is 6 degrees. It's forecast to reach 10 in some places tomorrow. That's on the mild side even for Ireland.

Don't bash ME for telling it as it is.

Couldnt agree with you more. At the same time I think most people were surprised Gerry Murphys weather report. Evelyn apparently has made up for poor Gerrys weather forecasting:D

Mr Cumulonimbus

M.E.'s national forecast updated on their website at 23.46.

For Friday in Ulster, sleet or wet snow mostly on higher ground.

Sunday: Heavy rain into Munster by early afternoon. Some falls of sleet or snow are likely too, especially over higher ground.

Rougies

Larbre34 wrote: »

Well yes, as a public service whose purpose is to warn of risk to the vulnerable, that will always be the angle.

On the TV forecast she says "unfortunately" with a big grin and a twinkle in her eye. She stays professional throughout, but the ramping subtleties are there if you know what to look for. It's like a forecast for the general public with a secret coded forecast built in for us snow maniacs

maquiladora

Am I the only one who thinks there should be a seperate Met Eireann bashing/praising thread?

Thought this was the snow ramping thread? :P It really drains the fun out of what is not meant to be a super serious thread.

dacogawa

maquiladora wrote: »

Am I the only one who thinks there should be a seperate Met Eireann bashing/praising thread?

Thought this was the snow ramping thread? :P It really drains the fun out of what is not meant to be a super serious thread.

+1

Blizzard 2010

Jean will make it right