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Just got a court Summons for illegal plates

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  • #102
    keane2097
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,775 ✭✭✭✭keane2097


    sharkDawg wrote: »
    Webmonkey, I think its time to give the Garda Ombudsman a call or at least get him in on this thread. :p

    Lads if we could get the garda ombudsman posting we'd have awful craic altogether!


  • #103
    Ciaran_Dub
    Closed Accounts Posts: 195 ✭✭Ciaran_Dub


    keane2097 wrote: »
    You don't think it's a double standard that one driver is given the oppertunity to simply change his plates himself while the next driver is forced to appear in court for the exact same offence?

    You dont quite have an understanding of what a double standard is do you! That is called being inconsistent. A double standard by a member of An Garda Siochana would be reprimanding a memberof the public for having illegal plates while he himself has them on his own personal vehicle.

    And as for your post about bullying and such like is hypocricy at its best its laughable. You call someone a douchebag and find that acceptable but have a problem with me calling someone an idiot! And you also find it acceptable to post a picture you see as a depection of me then make a smartarse/sarcastic 'apology' but yet dont remove the pictues but you wouldnt call that bullying would you.

    Oh do me a favour will you go and find out what continually means as again you dont seem to have a great grasp of what it means. In this case it would mean I called the OP an idiot in every post which is simply not true as well you know and if you had bothered to read my posts you would know that I apologised to the OP if I offended him.Oh but hey dont let facts get in the way of a good wind up!

    Webmonkey, lets get something straight I never once made an assumption of any kind your car was a boy racer car and I would kindly ask you to revoke that comment or point out to me where I made it. I didnt jump to any conclusions one thing you fail to accept in this is the fact that you are only giving your side of the story, the Garda in question is unable to give his side of it. So instead of tarring all Gardai with the one brush I decided to try and give a balanced view and worked in hypothetical's. Now answer a few questions for me. Did you get the Garda's shoulder number and station? Did you lodge an official complaint with the desk Sergeant of said station? Did you lodge a complaint with the Garda Ombudsman?

    Mossin, That is my point about the Lexus it was luck that it was not pulled.I used my brother in laws situation as an example becuase he was 34/35 at the time driving a 5 year old base model Honda Accord with no extras on it. At 22 I drove a Honda Civic hatchback, classic boy racer car (no I wasnt one) I got pulled twice in 3 years. Once the Garda was abrupt with me and rightly so I had no valid Insurance or Tax disc displayed and only a receipt for my license renewel. Long story but I was insured, Garda was abrupt but told me to get things sorted. Second time I was approaching a check point, Garda stopped me was very polite and mentioned I going a tad fast to watch myself and safe home. Twice more I was stopped by the Gardai in another car (an Astra) and both Gardai were very pleasant even as one gave me a speeding ticket. So the arguement of certain types of cars has nothing to do with it.

    The real problem is the mentality of Irish people, the persecution complex and chip on the shoulder needs to be dropped. I have heard it from the 20-25 age group "The cops only pulled me cause I was driving a boy racer car", I have heard it from the 40+ group "Ah they only pulled me cause I am driving a big merc and wanted to find something wrong". The Irish public love the idea of "Ah I know I did wrong but sure look at what so and so did thats much worse". The fact is Irish people dont like to be told they are wrong or what to do we as a nation have a real problem with authority we always have done and always will do. The Gardai could become the best police force in the world but still the irish public would have a pop because we are not happy unless we are having a moan.


  • #104
    keane2097
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,775 ✭✭✭✭keane2097


    Ciaran_Dub wrote: »
    You dont quite have an understanding of what a double standard is do you! That is called being inconsistent. A double standard by a member of An Garda Siochana would be reprimanding a memberof the public for having illegal plates while he himself has them on his own personal vehicle.

    Dude I'm really getting tired of your recklessly ill-informed posts.

    Look:-
    Wikipedia wrote:
    A double standard refers to one class of entities being treated differently from another class of entities, and implies an unfair or unjustified differentiation.

    Here's the link. Read it up. Then come back. Then try again.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_standard


  • #105
    keane2097
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,775 ✭✭✭✭keane2097


    Ciaran_Dub wrote: »
    if you had bothered to read my posts you would know that I apologised to the OP if I offended him.Oh but hey dont let facts get in the way of a good wind up!

    This apology was something along the lines of "I'm sorry but I stand by the fact that I think you're an idiot" wasn't it?

    Can you see why I might have made a sarcastic apology now? Hmm?


  • #106
    Ciaran_Dub
    Closed Accounts Posts: 195 ✭✭Ciaran_Dub


    keane2097 wrote: »
    This apology was something along the lines of "I'm sorry but I stand by the fact that I think you're an idiot" wasn't it?

    Can you see why I might have made a sarcastic apology now? Hmm?

    You still didnt address the bullying issue, maybe you should have taken down the pictures? No you left them there but yet called me a bully. I apologised for offending the OP there was no sarcasm or similiar invovled I qualified it saying I called him an idiot in response to his first post are you having a problem with understanding that?

    What about the accusation of me continually calling him an idiot, like I said dont let facts get in the way of your wind ups.

    And seriously you are using wikipedia as a source of info, are you saying my example of a double standard is wrong?

    And might I add you are the one who went off topic in the first place with your smart arse comments so dont start getting all weep eyed and saying your tired of this. Oh you also dont make much mention to being called on the fact you called someone a douchbag but yet thing its incredulous I called someone an idiot. Oh look a double standard!


  • #107
    keane2097
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,775 ✭✭✭✭keane2097


    Ciaran_Dub wrote: »
    You call someone a douchebag and find that acceptable

    Workaccount hammered OP for having illegal license plates while freely admitting he has no problem with breaking speed limits. That is douchebaggery of the highest order imo.

    Do you disagree?
    Ciaran_Dub wrote: »
    And you also find it acceptable to post a picture you see as a depection of me then make a smartarse/sarcastic 'apology' but yet dont remove the pictues but you wouldnt call that bullying would you.

    If the pictures hurt your feelings in any way, just ask me and I'll take them down. I thought you would see the humour of the situation. If I was mistaken I humbly apologise.
    Ciaran_Dub wrote: »
    Oh do me a favour will you go and find out what continually means as again you dont seem to have a great grasp of what it means. In this case it would mean I called the OP an idiot in every post which is simply not true as well you know

    Ok so, fair point here. I went back and checked, and in fairness to you you only called the OP an idiot 3 times on the first page, and at least twice on the second page. You were absent from the next two pages, but happily you arrived back. You changed tack this time, deciding you were going to start calling people nobodies of all the ridiculous things. You still haven't explained what that's even supposed to mean!

    So right, continually probably wasn't the right word. I should have gone for repeatedly. Happy?

    Plus if we were to start getting into improper vocabulary/spelling/grammar I'd be here for the next couple of years trying to set you straight so let's try to avoid being so pedantic.
    Ciaran_Dub wrote: »
    and if you had bothered to read my posts you would know that I apologised to the OP if I offended him.

    I've noticed this tactic from you a lot actually - you continually repeatedly accuse people of having not read your posts and then go on to completely avoid addressing any of the issues they have brought up for you to consider.

    Now this, I'll admit, is ingenious. Next time I need to win an argument I think I'll do what you do and ignore the oppositions remarks while accusing them of not listening... Seriously, that's just so clever...
    Ciaran_Dub wrote: »
    Once the Garda was abrupt with me...
    Ciaran_Dub wrote: »
    Twice more I was stopped by the Gardai in another car (an Astra) and both Gardai were very pleasant...

    And did you prefer either type of treatment at all?

    Ciaran_Dub wrote: »
    The Irish public love the idea of "Ah I know I did wrong but sure look at what so and so did thats much worse". The fact is Irish people dont like to be told they are wrong or what to do we as a nation have a real problem with authority we always have done and always will do. The Gardai could become the best police force in the world but still the irish public would have a pop because we are not happy unless we are having a moan.

    I can't believe that after all this time this point still has to be reiterated to you:-

    Webmonkey admitted freely that having illegal number plates was wrong. He admitted he was at fault. He did not have any hard feelings against the Garda for punishing him for his wrongdoing.

    [Webmonkey please make a statement either confirming or denying the above]

    To continue:

    Webmonkey took issue with the attitude, manner, demeanor etc displayed by the guard during the incident.

    THAT'S ALL!

    He was wrong to have gammy license plates. He knows. He agrees. Stop telling him so! [Again Webmonkey your input would be appreciated]

    Now please, if you don't mind taking some of your own advice (which I'm sure you don't since you're not a hypocrite), go back through the thread and try to get at least a little sense of where you lost the train of thought, because you've been arguing an issue that nobosy disputes for PAGES & PAGES by now dude...


  • #108
    keane2097
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,775 ✭✭✭✭keane2097


    Ciaran_Dub wrote: »
    You still didnt address the bullying issue, maybe you should have taken down the pictures? No you left them there but yet called me a bully. I apologised for offending the OP there was no sarcasm or similiar invovled I qualified it saying I called him an idiot in response to his first post are you having a problem with understanding that?

    What about the accusation of me continually calling him an idiot, like I said dont let facts get in the way of your wind ups.

    And seriously you are using wikipedia as a source of info, are you saying my example of a double standard is wrong?

    And might I add you are the one who went off topic in the first place with your smart arse comments so dont start getting all weep eyed and saying your tired of this. Oh you also dont make much mention to being called on the fact you called someone a douchbag but yet thing its incredulous I called someone an idiot. Oh look a double standard!

    I hadn't finished responding - sorry.


  • #109
    keane2097
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,775 ✭✭✭✭keane2097


    Also, FYI:
    Concise Oxford Dictionary wrote:
    Double Standard 1. a rule or principle applied more strictly to some people than to others (or to oneself).
    dictionary.com wrote:
    double standard
    –noun
    1. any code or set of principles containing different provisions for one group of people than for another, esp. an unwritten code of sexual behavior permitting men more freedom than women. Compare single standard (def. 1).
    2. Economics. bimetallism.
    [Origin: 1950–55]


  • #110
    T-Maxx
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,155 ✭✭✭T-Maxx


    Why don't you guys take it elsewhere and let us old model fogeys be?


  • #111
    Mossin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,219 ✭✭✭Mossin


    Ciaran_Dub wrote: »
    Mossin, That is my point about the Lexus it was luck that it was not pulled.I used my brother in laws situation as an example becuase he was 34/35 at the time driving a 5 year old base model Honda Accord with no extras on it. At 22 I drove a Honda Civic hatchback, classic boy racer car (no I wasnt one) I got pulled twice in 3 years. Once the Garda was abrupt with me and rightly so I had no valid Insurance or Tax disc displayed and only a receipt for my license renewel. Long story but I was insured, Garda was abrupt but told me to get things sorted. Second time I was approaching a check point, Garda stopped me was very polite and mentioned I going a tad fast to watch myself and safe home. Twice more I was stopped by the Gardai in another car (an Astra) and both Gardai were very pleasant even as one gave me a speeding ticket. So the arguement of certain types of cars has nothing to do with it.

    Ciaran...
    Why do you point out that you werent a boy racer if the argument of certain types of cars doesnt come into it?
    You got caught with no valid insurance or tax displayed, even though you knew this was wrong. Not too dissimilar from the OP's problem. [Driving with illegal number plates] Yet you got given leniency, and the OP didnt, and yet you see nothing wrong with this?
    So its ok for you to be an idiot and get caught and get away with it, but when the OP does it its not? Double Standard? :rolleyes:


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  • #112
    Ah-Watch
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,786 ✭✭✭Ah-Watch


    Ive been watching this thread since it started and its completely blown off course now, its mad! A certain someone said in the early stages that it would be his last post and yet there are still posts from them argueing with other posters, I see both sides of The OP's and this cartain posters arguement as a neutral observer but for god sake give it a rest!!!! OP admits he was wrong but feels he was unjustly treated! thats what the thread is over not pages for bickering! Rant over:D


  • #113
    Ciaran_Dub
    Closed Accounts Posts: 195 ✭✭Ciaran_Dub


    Mossin wrote: »
    Ciaran...
    Why do you point out that you werent a boy racer if the argument of certain types of cars doesnt come into it?
    You got caught with no valid insurance or tax displayed, even though you knew this was wrong. Not too dissimilar from the OP's problem. [Driving with illegal number plates] Yet you got given leniency, and the OP didnt, and yet you see nothing wrong with this?
    So its ok for you to be an idiot and get caught and get away with it, but when the OP does it its not? Double Standard? :rolleyes:

    Mossin my point was that while driving a stereo typical boy racer car I was only stopped twice and I also said which you didnt highlight that I felt the Garda had every right to be abrupt with me when I had no valid tax or insurance disc in the window. If the Garda hadnt given me leniency I would have had to accept my punishment which I was prepared to do. I was also stopped twice in a non stereo typical car by Gardai who were more then polite to me. So I got stopped twice in both cars that is why I say the car being driven has nothing to do with being stopped by the Gardai. So no I dont think its a double standard.

    Ah-watch, I didnt realise it was a contract I was signing into when I said it was my last post on the subject. On top of that my only reason for repoly was because one poster decided to attack my comments without giving any reason for it and to be honest still hasnt give a proper explanation instead he jumped to conclusions.


  • #114
    Ciaran_Dub
    Closed Accounts Posts: 195 ✭✭Ciaran_Dub


    keane2097 wrote: »
    Workaccount hammered OP for having illegal license plates while freely admitting he has no problem with breaking speed limits. That is douchebaggery of the highest order imo.

    Do you disagree?



    If the pictures hurt your feelings in any way, just ask me and I'll take them down. I thought you would see the humour of the situation. If I was mistaken I humbly apologise.



    Ok so, fair point here. I went back and checked, and in fairness to you you only called the OP an idiot 3 times on the first page, and at least twice on the second page. You were absent from the next two pages, but happily you arrived back. You changed tack this time, deciding you were going to start calling people nobodies of all the ridiculous things. You still haven't explained what that's even supposed to mean!

    So right, continually probably wasn't the right word. I should have gone for repeatedly. Happy?

    Plus if we were to start getting into improper vocabulary/spelling/grammar I'd be here for the next couple of years trying to set you straight so let's try to avoid being so pedantic.



    I've noticed this tactic from you a lot actually - you continually repeatedly accuse people of having not read your posts and then go on to completely avoid addressing any of the issues they have brought up for you to consider.

    Now this, I'll admit, is ingenious. Next time I need to win an argument I think I'll do what you do and ignore the oppositions remarks while accusing them of not listening... Seriously, that's just so clever...





    And did you prefer either type of treatment at all?




    I can't believe that after all this time this point still has to be reiterated to you:-

    Webmonkey admitted freely that having illegal number plates was wrong. He admitted he was at fault. He did not have any hard feelings against the Garda for punishing him for his wrongdoing.

    [Webmonkey please make a statement either confirming or denying the above]

    To continue:

    Webmonkey took issue with the attitude, manner, demeanor etc displayed by the guard during the incident.

    THAT'S ALL!

    He was wrong to have gammy license plates. He knows. He agrees. Stop telling him so! [Again Webmonkey your input would be appreciated]

    Now please, if you don't mind taking some of your own advice (which I'm sure you don't since you're not a hypocrite), go back through the thread and try to get at least a little sense of where you lost the train of thought, because you've been arguing an issue that nobosy disputes for PAGES & PAGES by now dude...

    The person that you called a douchebag was making the point that some speed limits where rediculous, that a road that was not fit for 80K/ph would have that limit on it and another good stretch of road would have the speed limit. Correct me if I am wrong but he corrected you on that and again correct me if I am wrong but you didnt apologies to him for calling him a doubchebag incorrectly.

    I shouldnt have to ask you to take down the pics, and yet you want me to address questions you have put to me!

    You have already got pedantic about spelling/grammer when I used a '?' instead of a '!'.

    I think I made it quite clear about the treatment of the first Garda, I did say he was well with in his right to do so. Would you like to point that out to you?

    My point still stands going on the ORIGINAL post that it was typical of Irish society nowadays.

    Ok let me say instead of a nobody, a person whos opinion I had in very low regard considering their first couple of posts, is that phrased a little better for you? Or do you want to continue with anal posts from here on in?


  • #115
    coolwings
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 3,455 Mod ✭✭✭✭coolwings


    I read every post in this thread ...... and I wish I hadn't ;)

    Take your prozac ..... book a holiday ... get a decent night's sleep ... eat some chocolate/ice cream ... whatever.

    Chillax. Go back to your lives! :)


  • #116
    T-Maxx
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,155 ✭✭✭T-Maxx


    +1

    Where's a mod when you need one?

    Fobiaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa..........................!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


  • #117
    Mossin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,219 ✭✭✭Mossin


    Ciaran_Dub wrote: »
    Mossin my point was that while driving a stereo typical boy racer car I was only stopped twice and I also said which you didnt highlight that I felt the Garda had every right to be abrupt with me when I had no valid tax or insurance disc in the window. If the Garda hadnt given me leniency I would have had to accept my punishment which I was prepared to do. I was also stopped twice in a non stereo typical car by Gardai who were more then polite to me. So I got stopped twice in both cars that is why I say the car being driven has nothing to do with being stopped by the Gardai. So no I dont think its a double standard.

    My point about the double standard was that you got given leniency and the OP didnt, and not that it was because you got stopped equally in different cars, I was unaware of that information wasnt I!!

    The double standard applies because Webmonkey got summonsed for having illegal plates, and you got given time to get your tax and insurance discs on display. TBH, each time you had been stopped, you were stopped for breaking more serious crimes than having illegal number plates....no tax and insurance, and then for speeding...its damn right you take your punishment in situations like that although you were given leniency on one occasion. Whereas I feel that Webmonkey got a raw deal, for being summonsed for the most trivial of things.


  • #118
    T-Maxx
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,155 ✭✭✭T-Maxx


    So, Coolwings, what do you think of the Bluebird servos?

    (Let's claim back our turf:D)


  • #119
    Ciaran_Dub
    Closed Accounts Posts: 195 ✭✭Ciaran_Dub


    T-Maxx wrote: »
    So, Coolwings, what do you think of the Bluebird servos?

    (Let's claim back our turf:D)

    I am part of this turf only reason I came across the original post is because this is the only part of boards worth looking at.

    Oh and cant help you on the servo's am a static model man myself, you know the plastic kits that are for kids :rolleyes:

    Edited for T-Maxx


  • #120
    Webmonkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,579 ✭✭✭Webmonkey


    Ciaran_Dub wrote:
    ...because this is the only part of boards worth looking at.
    I can see that - no wonder your post count is incrementing so slowly - nothing happens here hardly.


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  • #121
    Ciaran_Dub
    Closed Accounts Posts: 195 ✭✭Ciaran_Dub


    Webmonkey wrote: »
    I can see that - no wonder your post count is incrementing so slowly - nothing happens here hardly.

    :confused: What has post counts or one of the slowest areas of the boards got to do with anything?

    Did you see the questions I possed to you about getting shoulder no from the Garda and making an official complaint?


  • #122
    Ciaran_Dub
    Closed Accounts Posts: 195 ✭✭Ciaran_Dub


    Mossin wrote: »
    My point about the double standard was that you got given leniency and the OP didnt, and not that it was because you got stopped equally in different cars, I was unaware of that information wasnt I!!

    The double standard applies because Webmonkey got summonsed for having illegal plates, and you got given time to get your tax and insurance discs on display. TBH, each time you had been stopped, you were stopped for breaking more serious crimes than having illegal number plates....no tax and insurance, and then for speeding...its damn right you take your punishment in situations like that although you were given leniency on one occasion. Whereas I feel that Webmonkey got a raw deal, for being summonsed for the most trivial of things.

    Again miss information Mossin read my post, I had got insurance I hadnt got a valid disc displayed. I couldnt get my disc because my license was out of date which I had a receipt for to prove I applied for it and couldnt get the tax because I didnt have my insurance disc. How does not having tax any more serious then not having legal plates. I agree with you on the speeding. I wouldnt call it a double standard I call it inconsistency (sp) with the Gardai.

    Maybe I should try and make my point a little concisely (sp). The OP is complaining about the treatment of the Garda in question. Where is the Garda's side of the story? not in this thread anyway so excuse me for playing devils advocate and not running with the sheep when I take another side of an arguement. Is that a little more concise.

    The Garda on this thread has already said as I did at the start the Garda who stopped the OP CAN summons the driver straight away and DOES NOT have to give a warning to the driver. So how is it a double standard if al the Garda was doing was going by the book? He would be ridiculed in other circumstances if he didnt go by the letter of the law.


  • #123
    T-Maxx
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,155 ✭✭✭T-Maxx


    Ciaran_Dub wrote: »
    I am part of this turf only reason I came across the original post is because this is the only part of boards worth looking at.

    Oh and cant help you on the servo's am a static model man myself, you know the plastic kids that are for kids :rolleyes:

    What, you play with plastic kids? Man, you've got some issues!:p

    I play with those little radio controlled cars, you know, sort of like the ones that you buy at Smyths...:D


  • #124
    Webmonkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,579 ✭✭✭Webmonkey


    Ciaran_Dub wrote:
    What has post counts or one of the slowest areas of the boards got to do with anything?
    What has plastic kids to do with anything in this thread -
    Ciaran_Dub wrote:
    Did you see the questions I possed to you about getting shoulder no from the Garda and making an official complaint?
    I didn't unfortunetely - I'm going to leave things be anyways - I was simply making a point of him being a bit un just but I am taking it no where - I don't want the hassle tbh.


  • #125
    Ciaran_Dub
    Closed Accounts Posts: 195 ✭✭Ciaran_Dub


    T-Maxx wrote: »
    What, you play with plastic kids? Man, you've got some issues!:p

    I play with those little radio controlled cars, you know, sort of like the ones that you buy at Smyths...:D


    Lol oooppsss must remember not to try and eat lunch while typing lol


  • #126
    Webmonkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,579 ✭✭✭Webmonkey


    T-Maxx wrote:
    I play with those little radio controlled cars

    Keep them off the roads anyways unless you have fully legible and legal number plates.


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  • #127
    Ciaran_Dub
    Closed Accounts Posts: 195 ✭✭Ciaran_Dub


    Webmonkey wrote: »
    What has plastic kids to do with anything in this thread -

    I didn't unfortunetely - I'm going to leave things be anyways - I was simply making a point of him being a bit un just but I am taking it no where - I don't want the hassle tbh.

    I meant Kits, and the fact the thread is in models i would have said a lot. Plus I was replying to T-Maxx


    You didnt but your so insistent the Garda is wrong...oh I give up!!!!

    TBH the fact your not making an official complaint says a lot!


  • #128
    Webmonkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,579 ✭✭✭Webmonkey


    Ciaran_Dub wrote: »
    I meant Kits, and the fact the thread is in models i would have said a lot. Plus I was replying to T-Maxx


    You didnt but your so insistent the Garda is wrong...oh I give up!!!!

    TBH the fact your not making an official complaint says a lot!
    I didn't know I had to make an offical complaint to the ombudsman about a Gaurds behaviour before posting a thread in models. It should be added to the charter, but no one follows that anyways, section one was clearly ignored.


  • #129
    Mossin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,219 ✭✭✭Mossin


    Mossin wrote: »
    The double standard applies because Webmonkey got summonsed for having illegal plates, and you got given time to get your tax and insurance discs on display
    Ciaran_Dub wrote: »
    Again miss information Mossin read my post, I had got insurance I hadnt got a valid disc displayed.

    Oh look, I did read your post, and you hadnt the decency to do the same with my reply :rolleyes:
    How does not having tax any more serious then not having legal plates. I agree with you on the speeding. I wouldnt call it a double standard I call it inconsistency (sp) with the Gardai

    The point was that you knew it was illegal not to have them displayed, and yet you drove without them displayed. You got given leniency by probably being able to explain yourself, meanwhile the OP was treated badly and not given the same chance. Thats a double standard imo.


  • #130
    kaimera
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,396 ✭✭✭✭kaimera


    How does not having tax any more serious then not having legal plates.

    Are you serious?

    *shakes head*


  • #131
    Ciaran_Dub
    Closed Accounts Posts: 195 ✭✭Ciaran_Dub


    Mossin wrote: »
    My point about the double standard was that you got given leniency and the OP didnt, and not that it was because you got stopped equally in different cars, I was unaware of that information wasnt I!!

    The double standard applies because Webmonkey got summonsed for having illegal plates, and you got given time to get your tax and insurance discs on display. TBH, each time you had been stopped, you were stopped for breaking more serious crimes than having illegal number plates....no tax and insurance, and then for speeding...its damn right you take your punishment in situations like that although you were given leniency on one occasion. Whereas I feel that Webmonkey got a raw deal, for being summonsed for the most trivial of things.

    This is what i was refering too Mossin.

    Kaimera, please explain how having no tax is anymore illegal. I can understand no insurance because of the implications in a crash. My point is both is against the law and you cant cry about when caught.

    Webmonkey, you were advised earlier in the thread by another poster it has nothing to do with the boards charter. You were given an avenue of recourse but choose to not take it but yet continue to bemoan the Garda's conduct and that not everyone has backed you on it.

    Again there are two sides to every story and only one is being heard.


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  • #132
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 8,016 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    In all due respect Ciaran, you are a bit of a bollix :p


  • #133
    Seth Brundle
    Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 40,290 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Presumably this should be in the motors forum.


  • #134
    Mossin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,219 ✭✭✭Mossin


    Ciaran_Dub wrote: »
    This is what i was refering too Mossin.

    It's in the exact same post where I say
    The double standard applies because Webmonkey got summonsed for having illegal plates, and you got given time to get your tax and insurance discs on display

    Obviously once again you ignore to read all that I write

    Also if you have no tax, you are not supposed to be on the road.....
    You had an insurance renewal form on you but you hadnt got any TAX.
    Therefore you are not entitled to be on the road and its way more of a crime than having illegal number plates!


  • #135
    Tigger
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,705 ✭✭✭✭Tigger


    i have a model mg zr and it has scale replicas of legal plates
    how do i tax it?


  • #136
    coolwings
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 3,455 Mod ✭✭✭✭coolwings


    T-Maxx wrote: »
    So, Coolwings, what do you think of the Bluebird servos?

    (Let's claim back our turf:D)

    Is this on or off topic?

    Seeing as the topic has nothing to do with this forum that is ..... ;)

    Haven't tried them after reports I received after my first investigations. At that time their failure ratio was too high for me.
    I suspect the micro servos in MPX RTF models eg Space Scooter might have been the same "innards" inside a red MPX case for a while. We replaced about 1 in 8, which sounds like them. (or alt Tec/Supertec/GWS/etc)

    Undoubtedly there is room to buy the cheap make in it's highest spec version, I see the sense in that.
    And like Fred said they could be better now, based on the warranty.

    I normally overengineer my models slightly so as to have spare capacity and avoid failure, and over time I have accepted that for me, JR is the higher and Hitec is the lower threshold I don't cross when buying. At that spec/cost the servo gear usually lasts about 4 models.

    C Ya :pac:


  • #137
    keane2097
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,775 ✭✭✭✭keane2097


    Tigger wrote: »
    i have a model mg zr and it has scale replicas of legal plates
    how do i tax it?

    Epic lols


  • #138
    T-Maxx
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,155 ✭✭✭T-Maxx


    I might be sorted now with a sponsored IMS servo.:D


  • #139
    keane2097
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,775 ✭✭✭✭keane2097


    Ciaran_Dub wrote: »
    I wouldnt call it a double standard I call it inconsistency (sp) with the Gardai.

    Well then you would be wrong. I suggest you invest in a dictionary or some sort of English classes.

    You can call it what you want, but it's a double standard.

    I'm not even winding you up like - that's just what it means. I swear.

    Look:-
    Concise Oxford Dictionary wrote:
    Double Standard 1. a rule or principle applied more strictly to some people than to others (or to oneself).
    dictionary.com wrote:
    double standard
    –noun
    1. any code or set of principles containing different provisions for one group of people than for another, esp. an unwritten code of sexual behavior permitting men more freedom than women. Compare single standard (def. 1).
    2. Economics. bimetallism.
    [Origin: 1950–55]
    Wikipedia wrote:
    A double standard refers to one class of entities being treated differently from another class of entities, and implies an unfair or unjustified differentiation.


  • #140
    keane2097
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,775 ✭✭✭✭keane2097


    Webmonkey wrote: »
    I didn't know I had to make an offical complaint to the ombudsman about a Gaurds behaviour before posting a thread in models. It should be added to the charter, but no one follows that anyways, section one was clearly ignored.
    Webmonkey wrote: »
    Charter (Please read before posting.)
    Welcome to the new addition to boards.ie, the models board.

    In this you required to adhere to the following rules;

    1.No insulting, condenscending or generally being nasty to other users on this board.

    2.No posting unrelated to the thread in question (straying is ok just don't go too far especially when the thread is a "help thread").

    3.Common sense with regards to posting is assumed.

    4.No posting of pornography, warez and other illegal and unrelated material.

    5. Keep your posts (within reason) clean and (within reason) mature.

    6. This is not a for sale board, so don't post threads selling stuff here, instead, post it on adverts.ie's FS General board. You may link to it in a thread here if you want to attract attention from the community that wouldn't generally read the FS board..

    7. Any posts made in this forum must have been the subject of a complaint to the Garda Ombudsman prior to the time of posting

    Jesus Webmonkey, get with it will you?


  • #141
    keane2097
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,775 ✭✭✭✭keane2097


    Ciaran_Dub wrote: »
    My point still stands going on the ORIGINAL post that it was typical of Irish society nowadays.

    Ok so let me get this straight:

    You're freely admitting that your arguments in this thread are based on a post that was voluntarily removed by the OP, taken back and apologised for over a week ago?!?

    Can somebody please check me on this?

    Is that actually what he's saying?

    Cos my life just got even more hilarious if it is...


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  • #142
    keane2097
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,775 ✭✭✭✭keane2097


    Ciaran_Dub wrote: »
    Ok let me say instead of a nobody, a person whos opinion I had in very low regard considering their first couple of posts, is that phrased a little better for you? Or do you want to continue with anal posts from here on in?

    No in fairness that's much better. Your use of the term "nobody" just had me completely bemused due to its unsuitability for use on the internet.


  • #143
    keane2097
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,775 ✭✭✭✭keane2097


    Webmonkey wrote: »
    Keep them off the roads anyways unless you have fully legible and legal number plates.

    Just saw this now - I lol'd. Very well played sir.


  • #144
    keane2097
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,775 ✭✭✭✭keane2097


    Mossin wrote: »
    Thats a double standard according to the English language.

    FYP.


  • #145
    the GALL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 938 ✭✭✭the GALL


    That has to be one of the best ive ever read


  • #146
    MOH
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,465 ✭✭✭MOH


    Thread of the day for me, outside AH, anyway.

    Pass the popcorn.


  • #147
    keane2097
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,775 ✭✭✭✭keane2097


    MOH wrote: »
    Thread of the day for me, outside AH, anyway.

    Pass the popcorn.


    Careful lads - it'll suck you in. I started just taking the piss, but I eventually succumbed to the idiocy of some of the posts and got properly agitated...

    Don't let it get you...


  • #148
    workaccount
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,460 ✭✭✭workaccount


    keane2097 wrote: »
    Careful lads - it'll suck you in. I started just taking the piss, but I eventually succumbed to the idiocy of some of the posts and got properly agitated...

    Don't let it get you...

    Eh excuse me but your first post was idiotic! :rolleyes:

    Calling people names to make a point?? Wake up.


  • #149
    keane2097
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,775 ✭✭✭✭keane2097


    workaccount wrote: »
    Eh excuse me but your first post was idiotic! :rolleyes:

    Calling people names to make a point?? Wake up.

    My point was made in the first two lines of the post.

    The name calling was the conclusion I personally drew from what you had said.

    "You can't go driving around with illegal license plates, but I can break the speed limit if I want".

    This is more or less what you said, and I don't think I need to explicitly point out why this attitude makes you a bit of a douchebag as I think any reasonable person would agree.

    Certainly one of our posts was idiotic, I guess it's up to everyone else to decide which for themselves.


  • #150
    workaccount
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,460 ✭✭✭workaccount


    keane2097 wrote: »
    My point was made in the first two lines of the post.

    The name calling was the conclusion I personally drew from what you had said.

    "You can't go driving around with illegal license plates, but I can break the speed limit if I want".

    This is more or less what you said, and I don't think I need to explicitly point out why this attitude makes you a bit of a douchebag as I think any reasonable person would agree.

    Certainly one of our posts was idiotic, I guess it's up to everyone else to decide which for themselves.

    Such babble. Calling people names breeds contempt.

    Please explain to me what the intention of your last post calling people idiotic was?
    Don't make me go through all your posts here to prove my point.


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  • #151
    keane2097
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,775 ✭✭✭✭keane2097


    keane2097 wrote: »
    I eventually succumbed to the idiocy of some of the posts
    workaccount wrote: »
    Eh excuse me but your first post was idiotic! :rolleyes:
    workaccount wrote: »
    Please explain to me what the intention of your last post calling people idiotic was?

    Probably the same as yours...? To be honest I don't really understand the question.

    Look, if I'm being completely honest I'm actually upset with myself for calling you a douchebag because it's given you such a great way to avoid addressing the point.

    You keep bringing up the name-calling and I'm sorry, but I just don't believe it actually hurt your feelings or anything, so the only thing I can think of is that you're using it as a way to not have to justify your ridiculously badly balanced views of breaking traffic laws.

    Now please (and this is only a request, I'm not saying you need my permission to post in this thread or anything), either respond to that point or just refrain from responding to me at all.

    Or at least respond about something other than the fact that I called somebody a name.


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