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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,612 ✭✭✭Gervais08


    What's the point? Asian people love playing the victim and should be upset they can't do it anymore?

    Nah.

    I’ll thank you not to attempt to put words in my mouth okay ?

    Point 1: how many programmes, schemes etc are there to help minorities? By not including a group as a minority they are disadvantaged.

    Point 3: the reason for not including Asians as a minority group has been explained here - the narrative of the evil oppressors and the perceived victimhood of the non-whites is at risk given the educational and other successes of those from an Asian background.

    There are others but to a post referencing “Whitey” I don’t think it’s worth breaking out any of the better quality points.


  • Registered Users Posts: 431 ✭✭CarProblem


    .anon. wrote: »
    Looking forward to reading Twelve More Rules, written by a man who lives on a diet of beef, salt and water and nearly died because didn't realise that regular benzo use can lead to addiction.

    You do realise you don't have to read it just cos they publish it right?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    Wibbs wrote: »
    Though from my occasional bumps into him on Youtube(mostly linked here on Boards) or the news and I suppose because of that occasional nature I did notice him going from a guy who appeared to have it together to looking pretty hunted. Fame, home stress? Though he always kinda gave me the impression of someone who as they used to say ""suffers with his nerves, god love him". Going famous overnight with a load of ardent supporters and equally ardent detractors and a heavy appearance schedule and other things no doubt in his private life, that would be a major stress for anyone, any weakness would be amplified.


    His missus got cancer I think, he's been pretty open about being prescribed antidepressants and the like in the past. Pretty sure the fame and the touring didnt help. His whole winding up in some detox hospital in Russia and Croatia was pure space cadet stuff, you have to wonder about him and his family with that kind of quack carry on

    I like the mad ****er even though he spouts some amount of guff once hes up on his high horse. When the cancel mob come for you, you're supposed to admit guilt, apologise and hope they let keep your job and life but he didnt and that took nerve, he stood up to them, survived and started pointing out the Emperor had no clothes...and the Emperoror was a filthy commie, roughly speaking :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,094 ✭✭✭.anon.


    CarProblem wrote: »
    You do realise you don't have to read it just cos they publish it right?

    You do realise what 'looking forward to' means, right?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 528 ✭✭✭Invidious


    .anon. wrote: »
    Looking forward to reading Twelve More Rules, written by a man who lives on a diet of beef, salt and water and nearly died because didn't realise that regular benzo use can lead to addiction.

    Judging a book by its cover is silly. Judging a book by its author's dietary habits is even more so.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    https://babylonbee.com/news/staffers-crying-over-jordan-peterson-book-cured-by-forcing-them-to-read-jordan-peterson-book

    Staffers Crying Over Jordan Peterson Book Cured By Forcing Them To Read Jordan Peterson Book
    "I am very pleased with the outcome of my publisher making its employees read my book," said Peterson to a reporter. "And I bloody-well hope it helps thousands more people who read it. That would be quite a positive outcome."

    The reporter blinked and responded, "so you're saying you hate women?"





    Note, BabylonBee isn't a real news site.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 355 ✭✭46 Long


    Wibbs wrote: »
    +1 When I read that a clinical psychologist with many years of practice and teaching under his belt and someone who is clearly well above average on the IQ front appeared to be shocked that taking benzos was risky I was gobsmacked. The dogs on the streets know that FFS and know it for donkey's years. Their use has been massively curtailed over the last few decades because of the known and all too common risks(though maybe not in Canada/America?). Did he get a blow his head at some point? Like how dumb can you be? IIRC he was also on a cocktail of other drugs like various SSRI's and the like. Yeah, great mix there Ted. Must not have that much faith in his own talk therapy discipline if he went to the happy smarties so readliy.

    Though from my occasional bumps into him on Youtube(mostly linked here on Boards) or the news and I suppose because of that occasional nature I did notice him going from a guy who appeared to have it together to looking pretty hunted. Fame, home stress? Though he always kinda gave me the impression of someone who as they used to say ""suffers with his nerves, god love him". Going famous overnight with a load of ardent supporters and equally ardent detractors and a heavy appearance schedule and other things no doubt in his private life, that would be a major stress for anyone, any weakness would be amplified.

    To be fair, lots of highly intelligent people end up with prescription drug habits. William Rehnquist was off his tits on Placidyl for a good ten years while he sat on the US Supreme Court. Had little to no affect on the quality of his work by all accounts. Until he stopped of course, and started worrying that the CIA were after him. Fun times.

    Long term use of benzodiazepines is interesting. It's almost universally accepted that tolerance to the hypnotic affects happens pretty quickly but it's debated as to how long the anxiolytic properties last. This side of the pond the thinking is usually to prescribe a short course until patient is stabilized on an SSRI/SNRI but in North America it's not uncommon for them to be prescribed long-term. Like with opiates, dependency is a given in those scenarios and the line between 'this is helping the patients anxiety' and 'I need to keep writing scripts to keep this person alive/sane/happy' is tricky. Rife with abuses too, on both sides - doctor shopping patients and pill mills.

    In all honesty their use might have been curtailed too much here. Mariusz Serbin's death in Cork Prison last year was recorded as 'Misadventure' but really was down to negligence. Too much pearl-clutching about 'dangerous' benzos led to man dying for lack of a few cents worth of chlordiazepoxide.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,305 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    Adhamh wrote: »
    Hollywood seems intent on deliberately replacing ginger characters in particular with black characters- once you notice it you'll start seeing it everywhere:

    Aye, we're often overlooked, outright excluded/removed or constantly the butt of the joke. Both in media and real life. But, much like the Asians, we don't really complain so nobody cares. I'm in the even rarer group of red hair and blue eyes. Think it's time I started to get some rights and stuff... Wonder would the LGBTAlphabet group take us under their wing. We're pretty small though, something like 2% of the worlds population have red hair.

    TBH, it doesn't annoy me anymore, except for replacing Triss in Netflix's the Witcher. Granted, a minor part, but still... #TeamTriss


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 424 ✭✭Roger the cabin boy


    “He is an icon of hate speech and transphobia and the fact that he’s an icon of white supremacy, regardless of the content of his book, I’m not proud to work for a company that publishes him,” a junior employee who is a member of the LGBTQ community and who attended the town hall told VICE World News.

    So nutty.

    Not nutty. Dangerous.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,094 ✭✭✭.anon.


    Invidious wrote: »
    Judging a book by its cover is silly. Judging a book by its author's dietary habits is even more so.

    The fact that I'm looking forward to reading it doesn't mean that I've judged it. Based on his recent experiences, it may well differ from the previous one. Which I didn't think was bad, incidentally.


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    Not nutty. Dangerous.

    Nah. This isn't anything new... It's happened before, and will happen again. There is always going to be fools like these.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,170 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    46 Long wrote: »
    To be fair...
    Good jaysus 46, it's a bit early in the day for me to be reading sensible well considered stuff. :D
    Invidious wrote: »
    Judging a book by its cover is silly.
    now as an aside there's a proverb I never understood even as a kid. Maybe in medieval scriptoriums where they didn't have titles or indexes, but these days the title gives a good clue and reading the back cover sets it out. OK, yeah, I'm weird.

    A mate of mine who saw this in the news put it well IMH and I quote: Peterson is a drug addled gobsh1te(self admitted) but if all books by drug addled gobsh1tes weren’t published the world would be a poorer place.
    Nah. This isn't anything new... It's happened before, and will happen again. There is always going to be fools like these.
    True. The danger comes when wider society starts to listen to fools like these.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,688 ✭✭✭storker


    Think it's time I started to get some rights and stuff... Wonder would the LGBTAlphabet group take us under their wing.

    "G" is already taken. :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 528 ✭✭✭Invidious


    biko wrote: »
    ONTARIO—After distraught staffers at Penguin Random House Canada complained about the publication of Jordan Peterson's new book Beyond Order: 12 More Rules For Life, the publishing company quickly solved the problem by forcing the crying employees to read Jordan Peterson's book. According to sources, employees have been completely cured of their whining, self-destructive victimhood.

    "It's like a miracle," said office assistant Xandy Dutheriadux. "I didn't realize how much of my time was spent on behaviors that aren't particularly useful-- such as whining and blaming others! It's time for me to get my house in order and refine my competence in order to achieve my goals! Thanks, Dr. Peterson!"

    Sources within the company say that productivity and employee satisfaction have risen by 3000% since they forced everyone to read the book.

    Just brilliant ... I'm nearly in tears myself reading this :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,812 ✭✭✭✭sbsquarepants


    Wibbs wrote: »
    +1 When I read that a clinical psychologist with many years of practice and teaching under his belt and someone who is clearly well above average on the IQ front appeared to be shocked that taking benzos was risky I was gobsmacked. The dogs on the streets know that FFS and know it for donkey's years. Their use has been massively curtailed over the last few decades because of the known and all too common risks(though maybe not in Canada/America?). Did he get a blow his head at some point? Like how dumb can you be? IIRC he was also on a cocktail of other drugs like various SSRI's and the like. Yeah, great mix there Ted. Must not have that much faith in his own talk therapy discipline if he went to the happy smarties so readliy.
    .


    I think you're being very harsh there Wibbs - I can't really see the problem with someone (no matter how smart, or how famous or whatever) taking medical advice from their doctor. If you can't take medical advice from a doctor who can you take it from? Also it's not like intelligence offers any protection whatsoever from depression or anxiety.

    I'm sure he was aware of the risk of addiction, it just transpired that he was particularly susceptible and how could you possibly know that?
    At a guess i'd say he put his faith in the doctors that the dosage / duration etc was skewing those risks in his favour, and in all honesty why wouldn't he?

    We all know alcohol is addictive yet the vast majority of us will still gamble that it won't get us, and generally speaking it doesn't, but we also all know someone who either can't kick it or really had to struggle to do so. We took the exact same risk that they did and it was largely the luck of the draw that it ended differently.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,170 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    I think you're being very harsh there Wibbs - I can't really see the problem with someone (no matter how smart, or how famous or whatever) taking medical advice from their doctor. If you can't take medical advice from a doctor who can you take it from?
    Second and third opinions, particularly when any therapy carries risks of serious side effects. I have huge respect for doctors as a profession, but I wouldn't put my unalloyed faith in them that too many do, or rather I'd be cautious on the advice of one doctor. Opinions vary and vary over time, with the individual doctor(some are pill pushers, some are not), the wealth of the patient(not always an advantage) and the medical cultures of countries. So in some areas of health I'd take the advice of an Irish doctor way over the advice of say an American one and in other things vice versa.
    Also it's not like intelligence offers any protection whatsoever from depression or anxiety.
    True, but it does, or should give an individual more agency in making better decisions.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,170 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    AllForIt wrote: »
    Firstly they have completely irradiated stereotypical strong white men (hetro, strong willed, confident etc). The crew now is comprised of a majority of women, the while male is gay, the 2 other males are black, one is gay. The rest of the female piloting crew are a combination of weak, ditszy, emotional, fearful, but somehow they manage to get the job done with all these traits which you'd hardly expect to be the kinds of people to sign up for active duty (read: even you faint of heart can be a star fleet captain). Life will never be like that, the strongest only make it to the top.
    I had a look at the latest episode for the craic and oh God, yeah, I take your point. One red headed lass appears to be on the point of tears in every scene.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,812 ✭✭✭✭sbsquarepants


    Wibbs wrote: »
    Second and third opinions, particularly when any therapy carries risks of serious side effects. I have huge respect for doctors as a profession, but I wouldn't put my unalloyed faith in them that too many do, or rather I'd be cautious on the advice of one doctor.



    I don't know how he came to be prescribed this stuff, but i think it would be a safe enough bet that he has access to the best of treatment, so i can only assume it was believed to be the best course of action by a proper doctor / medical team, rather than he just went to some shady Dr. Feelgood just to get off his tits.

    Wibbs wrote: »
    True, but it does, or should give an individual more agency in making better decisions.


    Even with the benefit of hindsight it's hard to say definitively that it was a bad decision, it didn't work out that much is clear as day, but that's not quite the same thing. It doesn't mean it wasn't the best course of action available to them at the time.


    Saying you'd ask around and therefore avoid any bad medical outcomes or drug interactions / side effects etc is just nonsense.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,394 ✭✭✭1800_Ladladlad


    Iv been in a similar situation much like this while visiting a friend in Holland. It was the friends of his girl friends. I tried to entertain it, but when I was outted for using the wrong pro noun and misgendering one of them, I got up and left and stayed with another mate that lived in the same city. Apparently that night I was disrespectful and aggressive....I didn't respond to their sh*te, I left without saying a word. :pac:

    https://twitter.com/crimeofcupid/status/1331464791836168193


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  • Registered Users Posts: 12,908 ✭✭✭✭Rothko


    Iv been in a similar situation much like this while visiting a friend in Holland. It was the friends of his girl friends. I tried to entertain it, but when I was outted for using the wrong pro noun and misgendering one of them, I got up and left and stayed with another mate that lived in the same city. Apparently that night I was disrespectful and aggressive....I didn't respond to their sh*te, I left without saying a word. :pac:

    https://twitter.com/crimeofcupid/status/1331464791836168193

    I was convinced that the video was satire but apparently it's not.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,170 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Saying you'd ask around and therefore avoid any bad medical outcomes or drug interactions / side effects etc is just nonsense.
    I have done and on more than one occasion and on more than one occasion it turned out to be prudent to do so. My mantra in such things would be never to go off on a first opinion on something that is serious, or where any therapy carries considerable risks. I've asked for second opinions from different professions and trades, I don't see why medicine should be any different. And much of that stems from growing up with a few doctors in the family advising similar.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,170 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Rothko wrote: »
    I was convinced that the video was satire but apparently it's not.
    One reply for me nailed the daftness of it all.

    So they "freed" and "liberated" themselves and now "they can be everything they want to be". That's why they created ****ton of different labels that they use, because that's what freedom from labels is.:D

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



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    Wibbs wrote: »
    One reply for me nailed the daftness of it all.

    So they "freed" and "liberated" themselves and now "they can be everything they want to be". That's why they created ****ton of different labels that they use, because that's what freedom from labels is.:D

    It's not just that. There's such a bewildering amount of labels, even if we try to keep up and use the labels, making any kind of mistake is the greatest of offenses.. oddly confusing too, since people can apparently change the label that applies to them at the drop of a hat.

    So flexible as to be unusable, unless you live, breathe, and whatever, this stuff. Even then, I wonder if they're merely faking understanding it all. It's such a mess.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,208 ✭✭✭LuasSimon


    I see the WOKE crowd are giving about greyhound racing and animal cruelty on the Journal in today’s lets get angry topic .
    Funny how they don’t open their mouths about travellers on chariots beating horses up and down roads all over ireland on a daily basis . By far Ireland’s biggest case of animal cruelty!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,456 ✭✭✭✭DrPhilG


    So flexible as to be unusable, unless you live, breathe, and whatever, this stuff. Even then, I wonder if they're merely faking understanding it all. It's such a mess.

    Case in point, demonstrated by everyone's favourite 2-spirit penguin, Piers Morgan.

    https://youtu.be/vDT-Yj5n6zE


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,456 ✭✭✭✭DrPhilG


    So flexible as to be unusable, unless you live, breathe, and whatever, this stuff. Even then, I wonder if they're merely faking understanding it all.

    Case in point, demonstrated by everyone's favourite 2-spirit penguin, Piers Morgan.

    The guy in to defend the 100 genders theory hadn't a clue what most of them were.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,480 ✭✭✭AllForIt


    Wibbs wrote: »
    I had a look at the latest episode for the craic and oh God, yeah, I take your point. One red headed lass appears to be on the point of tears in every scene.


    Oh did you! Sorry for putting you through that : )


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,612 ✭✭✭Gervais08


    Iv been in a similar situation much like this while visiting a friend in Holland. It was the friends of his girl friends. I tried to entertain it, but when I was outted for using the wrong pro noun and misgendering one of them, I got up and left and stayed with another mate that lived in the same city. Apparently that night I was disrespectful and aggressive....I didn't respond to their sh*te, I left without saying a word. :pac:

    https://twitter.com/crimeofcupid/status/1331464791836168193

    Jesus I’d walk right out of there!!!!


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    LuasSimon wrote: »
    I see the WOKE crowd are giving about greyhound racing and animal cruelty on the Journal in today’s lets get angry topic .
    Funny how they don’t open their mouths about travellers on chariots beating horses up and down roads all over ireland on a daily basis . By far Ireland’s biggest case of animal cruelty!

    Let's just say that greyhound racing was banned as they wished... what would happen to all the dogs? Are these people volunteering to take in the current population of greyhounds, feed them, and take care of their health for the rest of their lives?

    Or would they just be moving on to the next crusade as all these dogs are put to sleep? A small price to pay for.. what? Would the breed essentially fade into nothingness because they don't fulfill a role in modern society? Since they're not exactly attractive dogs.

    I often wonder about these movements, and what would happen if they were successful. It seems to me that there's a rather limited aspect to their plans, and little consideration for what happens to the <insert target> afterwards.

    BTW, I know absolutely nothing about greyhounds, their conditions, or racing. I'm sure there's a case for providing better care for the dogs (as there is in most industries).


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,084 ✭✭✭statesaver


    Iv been in a similar situation much like this while visiting a friend in Holland. It was the friends of his girl friends. I tried to entertain it, but when I was outted for using the wrong pro noun and misgendering one of them, I got up and left and stayed with another mate that lived in the same city. Apparently that night I was disrespectful and aggressive....I didn't respond to their sh*te, I left without saying a word. :pac:

    https://twitter.com/crimeofcupid/status/1331464791836168193

    I get migraines pretty bad and this would bring them on. Life is too short for that hassle :rolleyes:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,094 ✭✭✭.anon.


    Whatever about banning greyhound racing, such a cruel and barbaric 'sport' shouldn't be propped up with public money.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,812 ✭✭✭✭sbsquarepants


    Wibbs wrote: »
    I have done and on more than one occasion and on more than one occasion it turned out to be prudent to do so. My mantra in such things would be never to go off on a first opinion on something that is serious, or where any therapy carries considerable risks. I've asked for second opinions from different professions and trades, I don't see why medicine should be any different. And much of that stems from growing up with a few doctors in the family advising similar.


    That's perfectly sound advice, and i would tend to do the same thing myself, but what i'm getting at is why are you assuming he didn't?



    I'd say it's a lot more likely that his problem stemmed from just sheer bad luck rather than scoring bags of blueys off some dodgey bloke he knows.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,170 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    I'd say it's a lot more likely that his problem stemmed from just sheer bad luck rather than scoring bags of blueys off some dodgey bloke he knows.
    Or more local medical trends slanted towards the more pills angle. EG US doctors are far more med happy than say French doctors, or Irish. The prescribed opiate problem in America is scarily high.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,128 ✭✭✭Tacitus Kilgore


    .anon. wrote: »
    Whatever about banning greyhound racing, such a cruel and barbaric 'sport' shouldn't be propped up with public money.

    ^This.


    Have nothing against it as a sport, but don't feel it should be on public money as a form of life support.

    Harolds cross is gone, Limerick goes in and out of liquidation, afaik newbridge and Mullingar have been on the ropes for years.

    Given all the big time advocates that have come out of the woodwork over the last few days you would think it would be a self sustaining industry given the sums of money involved with dog values, breeders and trainers. But it ain't, by a long shot.

    wonder would you get away with saying that the folk shouting the loudest are probably just annoyed at 'some woman' threatening a sport they don't know anything about or even give a fuck about anyway


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,128 ✭✭✭Tacitus Kilgore


    LuasSimon wrote: »
    I see the WOKE crowd are giving about greyhound racing and animal cruelty on the Journal in today’s lets get angry topic .
    Funny how they don’t open their mouths about travellers on chariots beating horses up and down roads all over ireland on a daily basis . By far Ireland’s biggest case of animal cruelty!

    Yea but wharrabout the homeless Simon? Wharrabout them? why aren't they giving out about the human cruelty Simon? Pfft, worrying about dogs when there's homeless everywhere.

    Are homeless now, not the foreign ones.





    How much public money does on road sulky racing get every year Simon?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,078 ✭✭✭IAMAMORON


    .anon. wrote: »
    Whatever about banning greyhound racing, such a cruel and barbaric 'sport' shouldn't be propped up with public money.

    But boxing gets a pass? ( and the funding )

    The funding improves the welfare of the dogs btw.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,128 ✭✭✭Tacitus Kilgore


    IAMAMORON wrote: »
    But boxing gets a pass? ( and the funding )

    The funding improves the welfare of the dogs btw.


    Are boxing and greyhound racing similar? In what sense?



    In my experience, the funding doesn't do any such thing - low level breeders, owners and trainers don't receive any of this money, ever - they are the ones who breed, train & thin out litters of dogs. How does the money going to IGB stop them culling slow dogs or dogs who don't take to the box?

    Again, will assert that I have no particular gripe with dog racing, but also not blind to the fact that the millions of public money definitely isn't used to stop cruelty, not in a meaningful way anyway.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,208 ✭✭✭LuasSimon


    Boxing one time was a sport for fit young men from all sorts of Backgrounds , Working class areas in Dublin to rural parts of Galway and Tyrone.
    Now criminal and traveller elements have taken over the sport driving out most law abiding individuals .


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,128 ✭✭✭Tacitus Kilgore


    LuasSimon wrote: »
    Boxing one time was a sport for fit young men from all sorts of Backgrounds , Working class areas in Dublin to rural parts of Galway and Tyrone.
    Now criminal and traveller elements have taken over the sport driving out most law abiding individuals .


    You've not been to too many greyhound tracks have ye?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,812 ✭✭✭✭sbsquarepants


    Wibbs wrote: »
    Or more local medical trends slanted towards the more pills angle. EG US doctors are far more med happy than say French doctors, or Irish. The prescribed opiate problem in America is scarily high.


    There's truth in that of course, the american mantra is very much a pill for every ill, and it's largely down to making money for the pill makers. Our end of things is much more tightly controlled and the argument is that it's to protect public health, but i'd be quite skeptical of that, i think good old fashioned greed has a lot to do with it here too. We've just contrived to protect a different sector. As we tend not to own the pill makers, we're more concerned with lining the pockets of the pill prescribers and the pill distributors.


    I have a dodgy back, i get a friend to get my diclofenac when they're in spain. I don't take much but maybe a couple of packets a year, i can get them for 5 or 6 quid over the counter from Spain, but 100 quid minimum in Dublin, because i need a note from my doctor and then the pharmacist wants their cut too. It's not about protecting health, it's more about protecting bank balances!


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    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/education/school-leggings-controversy-anatomy-of-a-social-media-firestorm-1.4419309?mode=amp

    Found it interesting in this article how the IT places very little blame upon itself for these recent baseless controversies - of course the outrage begins on social media, but it is only when mainstream media outlets (such as IT) then go on to publish articles on these controversies before any actual evidence has come to light that they become crystalised.

    If anything I think it’s worse by them to publish such stories without evidence (barring what agenda driven ideologues on twitter have claimed) as they ought at least be beholden to some journalistic standards.

    I guess journalistic integrity and prizing the truth are just old fashioned concepts from a bygone era. They just want the juiciest spiciest story and they want it now, fact checking be damned.


  • Registered Users Posts: 431 ✭✭CarProblem


    This the right place to put this?

    https://twitter.com/rbrowntweets/status/1331971082287505408

    Not content to go with a believable number, went with 60 (fucking 60) teenagers

    Anyone questioning it is of course an angry man, jealous that teenagers these days are more mature than they themselves were (I'm sure similar will be thrown at me)

    For the avoidance of doubt I'm 100% of the belief this didn't happen as told. I can get they maybe encouraged her (possibly) but fuck me, it's definitely exaggerated if not completely made up


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,170 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    The usual attention seeking bints on social media inventing tall tales so they get a "you go girl!" from others that are similar. Thankfully they're a tiny minority in the real world, but are all over the virtual. Well they can block those who call bullsh1t.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Posts: 25,611 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    CarProblem wrote: »
    This the right place to put this?

    https://twitter.com/rbrowntweets/status/1331971082287505408

    Not content to go with a believable number, went with 60 (fucking 60) teenagers

    Anyone questioning it is of course an angry man, jealous that teenagers these days are more mature than they themselves were (I'm sure similar will be thrown at me)

    For the avoidance of doubt I'm 100% of the belief this didn't happen as told. I can get they maybe encouraged her (possibly) but fuck me, it's definitely exaggerated if not completely made up

    I'll take things that never happened for 500.


  • Registered Users Posts: 431 ✭✭CarProblem


    Wibbs wrote: »
    The usual attention seeking bints on social media inventing tall tales so they get a "you go girl!" from others that are similar. Thankfully they're a tiny minority in the real world, but are all over the virtual. Well they can block those who call bullsh1t.

    In a nutshell - the bit in bold is 100% correct


  • Posts: 25,611 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Wibbs wrote: »
    The usual attention seeking bints on social media inventing tall tales so they get a "you go girl!" from others that are similar. Thankfully they're a tiny minority in the real world, but are all over the virtual. Well they can block those who call bullsh1t.

    DJcgkPQ7.jpg


  • Posts: 25,611 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    On the greyhound racing, what do you think happens the dogs every couple of years as it is? If it were banned (which I'm not particularly fussed about either way) then within a couple of years there'd be a lot fewer dogs being destroyed.


  • Registered Users Posts: 933 ✭✭✭Salvation Tambourine


    CarProblem wrote: »
    This the right place to put this?

    https://twitter.com/rbrowntweets/status/1331971082287505408

    Not content to go with a believable number, went with 60 (fucking 60) teenagers

    Anyone questioning it is of course an angry man, jealous that teenagers these days are more mature than they themselves were (I'm sure similar will be thrown at me)

    For the avoidance of doubt I'm 100% of the belief this didn't happen as told. I can get they maybe encouraged her (possibly) but fuck me, it's definitely exaggerated if not completely made up

    Some of the comments are "Why would she make it up?", for the likes, clearly.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,492 ✭✭✭Sir Oxman


    CarProblem wrote: »
    This the right place to put this?

    https://twitter.com/rbrowntweets/status/1331971082287505408

    Not content to go with a believable number, went with 60 (fucking 60) teenagers

    Anyone questioning it is of course an angry man, jealous that teenagers these days are more mature than they themselves were (I'm sure similar will be thrown at me)

    For the avoidance of doubt I'm 100% of the belief this didn't happen as told. I can get they maybe encouraged her (possibly) but fuck me, it's definitely exaggerated if not completely made up
    Well, she is a 'maker of things' according to herself.


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,170 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    DJcgkPQ7.jpg
    There are a fair few women working in F1 teams, but my digging has yet to find a chief mechanic among them.

    Though the pic does have a point as I've personally seen women being ignored in favour of an attendant bloke by mechanics. Not as often as some would suggest, but it can happen alright. Though these days where few enough men work on their cars they way they did(and had to) both genders tend to be in the dark mechanically. On the other hand car sales types when faced with a couple will tend to concentrate more on the woman because they're usually the ones making the decisions on large household purchases.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



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