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Will you take an approved COVID-19 vaccine?

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    #92
    CalamariFritti
    Registered Users Posts: 5,452 ✭✭✭CalamariFritti


    MacDanger wrote: »
    The question was related to the amount of time though, perhaps I should have bolded it as below:

    Got you. But I dont know the answer to that because me personally I didnt put a time limit on it. A year sounds reasonable, no?

    Me personally I wouldnt rush to get vaccinated because this virus doesnt worry me much on a personal level. I'm reluctant to put anything into me that I'm not fully sure I need. Wouldnt be running to a doc for antibiotics for every little thing either. Just as an example.

    But as for the people saying I'd like to sit back a bit for safety reasons I find that perfectly understandable.

    Our governments and public health bodies haven't exactly been honest with us. They continue to overreact and turn this into a political plaything. And they also talk up individual risk no end to keep the public in line.

    Now maybe thats what they have to do with regards to a public health message. But my takeaway from that is they have not been - and granted, maybe cannot be - totally honest with us.

    And by extension of that I fully expect them to be not fully honest with regards to vaccine risks either.

    And obviously I'm not the only one thinking that way.


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    #93
    hmmm
    Registered Users Posts: 11,205 ✭✭✭✭hmmm


    hatrickpatrick wrote: »
    It's extremely unlikely in the current climate that the EU would make vaccines mandatory, they are acutely aware of how anti-vax sentiment and euroskeptic sentiment tend to go hand in hand, and thus how this could be used very easily to further anti-EU campaigns on social media etc. I very, very much doubt they'd take such a risk, particularly with Brexit still ongoing.
    The EU are not going to make vaccines mandatory.

    Individual countries might decide to make it mandatory. Businesses might decide they will make more money by not catering for unvaccinated people. There will be an interesting argument in the future as to whether businesses need to protect their staff from unvaccinated people, but that's probably for courts to decide.


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    #94
    Plumbthedepths
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    John O.Groats wrote: »
    Why do you think vaccination will not be made mandatory?

    I'll turn the question back on you , which are mandatory to-date here in Ireland for example?
    There are many illnesses far more deadly than Covid yet even though we have vaccines for them they are not mandatory.
    The flu vaccine yet the uptake by medical professionals is very low.


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    #95
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    hmmm wrote: »
    The EU are not going to make vaccines mandatory.

    Individual countries might decide to make it mandatory. Businesses might decide they will make more money by not catering for unvaccinated people. There will be an interesting argument in the future as to whether businesses need to protect their staff from unvaccinated people, but that's probably for courts to decide.

    In the absence of a state making a vaccine mandatory I can guarantee you a business operating in a state without mandatory vaccination laws will not impose their own. Fighting a discrimination case will focus the minds of others who would wish to go maverick.


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    #96
    Simpsonsfan17
    Registered Users Posts: 171 ✭✭Simpsonsfan17


    No.


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    #97
    freshpopcorn
    Registered Users Posts: 30,298 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    I’d get it eventually but would like it to be some sort of hassle free walk in clinic to get it.
    I’ve learnt of a few people who are anti vaccine and they’d surprise you.


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    #98
    hatrickpatrick
    Registered Users Posts: 17,797 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    freshpopcorn wrote: »
    I’d get it eventually but would like it to be some sort of hassle free walk in clinic to get it.

    This is something I reckon isn't getting enough attention. We all know how disastrous the HSE tends to be at logistics - to quote Bishop Brennan, they couldn't organise a nun shoot in a nunnery. I'd love to be proven wrong, but I have a feeling the roll out of this vaccine is going to be a logistical nightmare primarily because the people running the HSE seem to have no idea how to organise anything. Just a couple of days ago there was an article about how cumbersome and archaic some of the procedures were - many designed before computers existed and have never since been upgraded, for example - which would certainly give one pause for worry about how disorganised the roll out could become.


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    #99
    [Deleted User]
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    Rubberchikken wrote: »
    No. This whole thing has happened far too quickly and the idea of a vaccine being produced so soon makes the cynic in me say no way would I touch it.

    We have china to thank for the year we've had so far, we then go cap in hand for ppe to protect us from their crap and now we're expected to be happy with a vaccine pushed out as quick as possible by companies who's only interest is making hugh amounts of money at any cost

    How much more stupid do we have to be?

    The oxford vaccine is being sold at cost,or close to it,a fiver a pop



    I can see the army involved in the roll out of this,and think/hope they'll use all.the test centres around the country


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    #100
    tamara25
    Registered Users Posts: 365 ✭✭tamara25


    Definitely won’t be getting it. People have a very short memory, remember the swine flu vaccine & narcolepsy....


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    #101
    Neamhshuntasach
    Registered Users Posts: 2,168 ✭✭✭Neamhshuntasach


    hatrickpatrick wrote: »
    Ah come on, you walked right in to that one :D:D:D

    I can't believe people replied seriously to what I said given the content. Someone even went to the bother of making one of those picture yokes. Anyways I was somewhat paraphrasing what I heard someone on one of those radio call in shows say today. Thinking they had some right to travel and spouting ****e about vaccines when it was clear they hadn't a clue.


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    #102
    AssetBacked2
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    I'm not against getting it but in general I am of negligible risk to covid (age but more particularly health reasons) so it isn't something I'm going to get "just because". Especially without doing some sort of test to see if I've already had covid.

    However, if our politicians, president and health officials get it then I'd probably reconsider.


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    #103
    Galwayguy35
    Registered Users Posts: 16,348 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    I will take it but will wait a few months before getting it, would have to wait anyway I reckon because it will take a while before they give it to healthy people.


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    #104
    Doc07
    Registered Users Posts: 985 ✭✭✭Doc07


    CalamariFritti wrote: »

    Now maybe thats what they have to do with regards to a public health message. But my takeaway from that is they have not been - and granted, maybe cannot be - totally honest with us.

    And by extension of that I fully expect them to be not fully honest with regards to vaccine risks either.

    And obviously I'm not the only one thinking that way.

    Any known risks of any approved vaccine will be published and available to anyone who wants to read it before they take a vaccine. If new risks become apparent after mass vaccination begins they will also be published and added to the product information and the benefit /risk ratio of the vaccine will be regularity appraised, independent of the vaccine manufacturers.


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    #105
    johnire
    Registered Users Posts: 1,528 ✭✭✭johnire


    Most definitely I'll be getting the vaccine.
    I just don't understand the logic of people who say they're not going to get it.
    A friend of mine is adamant she won't get it as she doesn't trust it etc etc. The same person is absolutely petrified of contracting Covid and follows the restrictions to the letter of the law which I most definitely applaud her for. What she doesn't seem to understand though is that all these restrictions- the lockdowns, social distancing, masks etc which are in place at the moment will disappear once people start getting vaccinated. That's the whole point- life goes back to normal. So all these protections she currently has will be gone but Covid will still be out there. She cannot seem to get that point. Very frustrating!!


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    #106
    plodder
    Registered Users Posts: 7,145 ✭✭✭plodder


    tamara25 wrote: »
    Definitely won’t be getting it. People have a very short memory, remember the swine flu vaccine & narcolepsy....
    No, I think people are well aware of that. It was discussed on the other thread and I don't know how to link to the page, but here are some informative posts from it:

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=115397280&postcount=6808

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=115397908&postcount=6816


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    #107
    PhantomHat
    Registered Users Posts: 148 ✭✭PhantomHat


    johnire wrote: »
    Most definitely I'll be getting the vaccine.
    I just don't understand the logic of people who say they're not going to get it.
    A friend of mine is adamant she won't get it as she doesn't trust it etc etc. The same person is absolutely petrified of contracting Covid and follows the restrictions to the letter of the law which I most definitely applaud her for. What she doesn't seem to understand though is that all these restrictions- the lockdowns, social distancing, masks etc which are in place at the moment will disappear once people start getting vaccinated. That's the whole point- life goes back to normal. So all these protections she currently has will be gone but Covid will still be out there. She cannot seem to get that point. Very frustrating!!

    It'll be some time before things finally return to normal if they ever will. Dr Anthony Fauci has recently said in an interview that social distancing and masks will still be necessary after getting the vaccine.

    https://nypost.com/2020/11/15/social-distancing-masks-necessary-after-getting-vaccine-fauci/


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    #108
    johnire
    Registered Users Posts: 1,528 ✭✭✭johnire


    Absolutely- I completely understand that those measures won't disappear overnight but in time they will. But my point is the risk to those who refuse to have the vaccine will massively increase as all the things that are currently in place to protect us will either be gone or as good as gone.
    PhantomHat wrote: »
    It'll be some time before things finally return to normal if they ever will. Dr Anthony Fauci has recently said in an interview that social distancing and masks will still be necessary after getting the vaccine.

    https://nypost.com/2020/11/15/social-distancing-masks-necessary-after-getting-vaccine-fauci/


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    #109
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    PhantomHat wrote: »
    It'll be some time before things finally return to normal if they ever will. Dr Anthony Fauci has recently said in an interview that social distancing and masks will still be necessary after getting the vaccine.

    https://nypost.com/2020/11/15/social-distancing-masks-necessary-after-getting-vaccine-fauci/

    Just on the point of will things ever return to normal, pervious pandemic history has taught us that they will and very quickly. If social distancing remained a thing after the Spanish flu for example our species would be on the verge of extinction.


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    #110
    Thierry12
    Closed Accounts Posts: 979 ✭✭✭Thierry12


    I will take one for sure

    Will they work, probably not as good as we think.

    Will they be safe, yes 99.999% safe for sure

    Until they have challenge trials and actually infect people deliberately, I don't believe any of these 90% efficacious numbers

    When the world opens up again with no restrictions, jam packed discos, concerts, raves then we will know if they work at 90%

    Or actually we won't ever know if they work at 90%, because by the time restrictions are over we won't be mass testing Covid anymore and we will presume they do work and the hospital cases we get were the unlucky ones that immunity ran out or just didnt work etc

    Its not as if these vaccines come with a guarantee that they will work for 6 months, 12 months, 18 months etc

    You might be unlucky and it doesn't work for you is as far as the guarantee goes


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    #111
    TP_CM
    Registered Users Posts: 443 ✭✭TP_CM


    Very surprised with the result of this poll considering the hesitancy I have encountered in day to day life. I'm struggling to find anyone who will get the vaccine. One lady in work said she would.


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    #112
    landofthetree
    Registered Users Posts: 2,303 ✭✭✭landofthetree


    Yes. Mainly because I want to go abroad for holidays.

    I'm worried that I won't get access to till late 2021 as I'm not in an at risk category.

    Supposedly this is the order it will happen in the UK and something similar might happen here. I'm not on the list.



    1. Care home residents & staff
    2. 80+
    3. 75+
    4. 70+
    5. 65+
    6. High risk adults under 65
    7. Moderate risk adults under 65
    8. 60+
    9. 55+
    10. 50+


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    #113
    Fodla
    Closed Accounts Posts: 281 ✭✭Fodla


    I'd rather not take one, but if I had to then I'd take either the Oxford one or Sputnik V.

    On Fauci, I wouldn't pay too much attention to that man. He changes his mind every 5 minutes.


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    #114
    Fodla
    Closed Accounts Posts: 281 ✭✭Fodla


    TP_CM wrote: »
    Very surprised with the result of this poll considering the hesitancy I have encountered in day to day life. I'm struggling to find anyone who will get the vaccine. One lady in work said she would.

    But do you think it's a representative poll?


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    #115
    TP_CM
    Registered Users Posts: 443 ✭✭TP_CM


    landofthetree wrote: »
    Yes.

    I'm worried that I won't get access to till late 2021 as I'm not in an at risk category.

    Out of interest, if the at-risk side of the population were safe from the virus, would you still quarantine? I'm the same as you, I am low risk, but I think I would have no problem going out and socialising to some extent.


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    #116
    TP_CM
    Registered Users Posts: 443 ✭✭TP_CM


    Fodla wrote: »
    But do you think it's a representative poll?

    Well about 90% of my close circle (family friends and work) work in IT jobs. I feel like there are a lot of IT people on here? So I was expecting to see the same kind of lean towards "Yes but not straight away" or "No".


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    #117
    igCorcaigh
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    Yes, when it's my turn.


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    #118
    Micky 32
    Registered Users Posts: 6,556 ✭✭✭Micky 32


    Yes, mainly so i can travel to family again.


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    #119
    Fodla
    Closed Accounts Posts: 281 ✭✭Fodla


    TP_CM wrote: »
    Well about 90% of my close circle (family friends and work) work in IT jobs. I feel like there are a lot of IT people on here? So I was expecting to see the same kind of lean towards "Yes but not straight away" or "No".

    I see. I wonder is it more that people are tired of lockdowns and restrictions so will jump at the chance to take a vaccine.

    I will only get one if required to in order to travel.


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    #120
    lennyloulou
    Registered Users Posts: 344 ✭✭lennyloulou


    TP_CM wrote: »
    Very surprised with the result of this poll considering the hesitancy I have encountered in day to day life. I'm struggling to find anyone who will get the vaccine. One lady in work said she would.

    I do not think people will get these vaccines.
    Read the ingredients.... madness


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    #121
    Fodla
    Closed Accounts Posts: 281 ✭✭Fodla


    lennyloulou wrote: »
    I do not think people will get these vaccines.
    Read the ingredients.... madness

    Are vaccination rates high in Ireland, out of interest? I never get the flu vaccine. I'm not sure what the uptake is every year.


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