Limerick GAA news/discussion thread

Fireball07 · 25-03-2015 3:19pm

Vanolder wrote: »

You've a crush on Lynch- Hasn't showed anything that warrants a place on the team. Hannon will be destroyed at 6 in Croker.

He hasn't been great so far, but it's worth persisting with someone with that kind of talent. At minor level, he stood out because of his work rate as well as his first touch and he has scored 6 points from play. I think he[s someone that will relish Croke Park in a more intense game.

As for Hannon, maybe, but bar Quaid, there's no one in the panel to go there. He's not going to move Hickey and we know what Wayne & Dodge both offer.

Fireball07 · 25-03-2015 10:18pm

Twoman Fullbackline wrote: »

In that case the team will probably be along the lines of:

Quaid, Walsh, McCarthy, Hickey, McNamara, Hannon, Condon, Ryan, Browne, Breen, O'Mahoney, O'Grady, Mulcahy, Dowling, Tobin

Looks a strong team... maybe there is room for a bit more experimentation.

I suppose if we are trying Hannon that we should do it in a full-strength backline and with a strong midfield, just to see how he gets on.

Maybe Lynch, Fitzgibbon or Reidy instead of Dodge; think Dodge is slightly on the periphery at wing-forward. Also, if Hannon is moved back to the forwards, then he has to play at centre-forward, I think. So I'd nearly prefer Gavin to play on the wing to see how he goes there.

Twoman Fullbackline · 26-03-2015 11:19am

Fireball07 wrote: »

Looks a strong team... maybe there is room for a bit more experimentation.

I suppose if we are trying Hannon that we should do it in a full-strength backline and with a strong midfield, just to see how he gets on.

Maybe Lynch, Fitzgibbon or Reidy instead of Dodge; think Dodge is slightly on the periphery at wing-forward. Also, if Hannon is moved back to the forwards, then he has to play at centre-forward, I think. So I'd nearly prefer Gavin to play on the wing to see how he goes there.

I'd pretty much agree with all of that. Team above is more a team I think will be named for Saturday - I imagine this will be named tonight?

I was of the opinion that Dodge was finished as the league had progressed but he was one of the better players on the pitch against Offaly, in the first half at least. I think he may get edged out come championship, but if we are not afraid of using the subs bench then he still has enough in the tank to warrant a place for a half,either in a sweeper role or as a puck-out target, while keeping fire-power in the bench.

Centre-forward is an interesting one. Assuming for the moment that Hannon does get moved back to the forwards, he will more than likely go to 11. This is where most want to see him, as it gets him involved more. However, with the balance of players we have up front, I really would prefer to see someone whose natural instinct is to run at the defence at centre-forward, be it Downes, Breen, possibly even James Ryan although I would be very, very reluctant to move him from midfield. We are lacking in these types of players and I think we need to use the ones we have wisely. You can isolate them by playing them on the wing where they can get bottled up too easily, in the middle it causes far more havoc for defences and makes it easier for Dowling/Mulcahy/Tobin to work off of. Hannon, while he has plenty of physicality, doesn't have the raw power like those named above and I've rarely seen him turn and drive at the defence. GOM wouldn't have the power either but does seem to have more of an instinct for when the goal chance is on, has a rocket of a shot from distance as well to boot. He's equally adept at playing wing though and there could well end up being a battle between himself and POB for the same spot, especially if we don't need either to drop back to the half-back line.

I hope Fitzgibbon sees some game-time on Saturday as well...wasn't expecting much from him prior to the league but when he has gotten a proper run he has impressed me.

zombieHanalei · 26-03-2015 7:09pm

Nice to head into a game where it's genuinely difficult to pick the starting XV.

The centre back issue leaves me feeling somewhat torn right now; on the one hand I maintained all along that this would be the game that will give us a clearer answer on Hannon, and I still feel that is the case; but on the other hand we need a performance in this game so sticking with tried and trusted wouldn't draw any criticisms from me so I'd also be happy to see DH back in the half forwards and leave the experimentation for challenge games in April and May.

The half back and half forward lines are the tricky ones to predict; particularly because we don't know where management will pick Hannon and O'Mahony. My prediction is we will start with Hannon at 6 and O'Mahony at 10 or 11. Wayne at 5, and if things aren't quite working out swap Hannon for O'Mahony and move Wayne into the centre. I'll predict;

Quaid; Walsh, McCarthy, Hickey; McNamara, Hannon, Condon; Ryan, Browne; O'Mahony, O'Grady, Breen; Mulcahy, Dowling, Tobin.

(Edit; Just looked at Twoman's post and seen this is pretty much an identical XV, maybe it won't be such a difficult selection afterall!)

(2nd edit; One the one hand, decent XV; on the other hand, a few positional shuffles aside, no new players in that 15, all having made championship debuts no later than 2012)

Rightwing · 26-03-2015 7:52pm

I'd expect us to beat Dublin every time we play them. This time should be no different so lets hope TJ is taking this one seriously.

Pandiani · 26-03-2015 10:10pm

Team named,
Quaid
Walsh McCarthy Hickey
OBrien McNamara Morrissey
Browne Ryan
Breen Hannon OGrady
Mulcahy Dowling Tobin

Copper_pipe · 26-03-2015 10:10pm

Limerick v Dublin
NQuaid
SWalsh RMcCarthy SHickey
POBrien WMcNamara DMorrissey
PBrowne JRyan
DBreen DHannon DOGrady
GMulcahy SDowling STobin

zombieHanalei · 26-03-2015 10:13pm

So the Hannon experiment wasn't an experiment, it was just the result of being down to the bare bones, I feel it would have been in our best interests to give it this game before making any final conclusions but I'm not disappointed as I just want a good performance.

Wayne back; his form was a little off but he was carrying an injury, I think he'll be closer to his best. O'Brien comes straight back in at number 5, while Dan Morrissey restored on the other wing. This game will be good for him, I was fearful he'd be pushed out once the panel neared full strength but he's done well so far this year, it will only do him good to play in a full strength team and he has earned it. Happy enough with that overall.

paddy no 11 · 26-03-2015 10:15pm

Groan

N20 · 26-03-2015 10:17pm

Any word on Minors Lads? Out in 2 weeks !

Heard both Limerick and Cork played Kilkenny and beat Kilkenny handy in last few weeks

This tells us nothing about Kilkenny as they were destroyd by Dublin 1st rd last year - regrouped ( with Kierans /CBS lads ) and came back to win All Ireland as well ye know

only challenges but it implies Cork & Limerick even enough as presumably playing close enough to first 15 with championship in next 2 weeks

all to play for, and a back door for whoever loses with neith side meeting Tipp until munster final - tipp are favorites to take munster this year

I've no idea what Waterford or Clare have

Heard also Cork 21s beat Limerick in recent challenge but both teams missing starters !

Any word on the terraces ?

Rightwing · 26-03-2015 11:30pm

That team looks good to me.

Fireball07 · 27-03-2015 12:40am

Pandiani wrote: »

Team named,
Quaid
Walsh McCarthy Hickey
OBrien McNamara Morrissey
Browne Ryan
Breen Hannon OGrady
Mulcahy Dowling Tobin

Well that's Wayne at centre-back for the year. Surprised that Hannon isn't tested against a good team... surely they should have just played Quaid there if it was just a stop-gap?

Meh...

Interesting that Paudie is back but not Gavin. Team looks strong but I'd much rather have Gavin at wing-back than Paudie, as you all know, I regard Paudie as a midfielder and that's it really. Good to see Dan get a shot in a first-choice team.

It's a strong team, I presume Condon is out through injury rather than dropped? Wonder will we see Mulcahy or Tobin drift out the field and leave 2 men inside or was that just a test too?

Mehapoy · 27-03-2015 10:14am

N20 wrote: »

Any word on Minors Lads? Out in 2 weeks !

Heard both Limerick and Cork played Kilkenny and beat Kilkenny handy in last few weeks

This tells us nothing about Kilkenny as they were destroyd by Dublin 1st rd last year - regrouped ( with Kierans /CBS lads ) and came back to win All Ireland as well ye know

only challenges but it implies Cork & Limerick even enough as presumably playing close enough to first 15 with championship in next 2 weeks

all to play for, and a back door for whoever loses with neith side meeting Tipp until munster final - tipp are favorites to take munster this year

I've no idea what Waterford or Clare have

Heard also Cork 21s beat Limerick in recent challenge but both teams missing starters !

Any word on the terraces ?

Personally haven't heard much about the limerick minors, there were a few rumours about injuries and a player from last year not commiting, they beat Dublin a few weeks ago in a challenge, hard to read anything into challenges though with college games going on etc.
Will be close id say, paddy o'loughlin should be ready for a big role, Kilmallock's run to the AI final should have brought him on leaps and bounds, will be interesting to see if daly has much of an influence on the team, going by colleges and underage tournaments cork might be just ahead but it will be close. From a limerick perspective you'd be hoping that the experience of last year will stand to them and hopefully get them over the line if the games are tight in the last 10 mins, they may well meet twice, first round in cork and semi in limerick if the form lines are correct...

Pandiani · 27-03-2015 11:07am

N20 wrote: »

Any word on Minors Lads? Out in 2 weeks !

Heard both Limerick and Cork played Kilkenny and beat Kilkenny handy in last few weeks

This tells us nothing about Kilkenny as they were destroyd by Dublin 1st rd last year - regrouped ( with Kierans /CBS lads ) and came back to win All Ireland as well ye know

only challenges but it implies Cork & Limerick even enough as presumably playing close enough to first 15 with championship in next 2 weeks

all to play for, and a back door for whoever loses with neith side meeting Tipp until munster final - tipp are favorites to take munster this year

I've no idea what Waterford or Clare have

Heard also Cork 21s beat Limerick in recent challenge but both teams missing starters !

Any word on the terraces ?

Jerome O'Connell in the Leader actually has an article on the Limerick minors today

http://www.limerickleader.ie/sport/limerick-sport/limerick-minor-hurlers-finalise-panel-for-title-defence-1-6655473

Twoman Fullbackline · 27-03-2015 11:07am

O'Mahoney, Condon & Downes all unavailable with injury so that's about the strongest team as we could name.

Good to see Morrissey starting in Croke Park, getting used to the pitch is invaluable to the players. Think he's close enough to the starting team, if he can work on delivering better ball forward he will be a big asset.

I thought O'Grady would start alright but I would have preferred for us to be more adventurous in this regard and keep DOG in reserve for when the old head is needed.

Strong full-forward line, especially with Tobin in the form he is in. A big if, but if we can get good ball into them, they will deliver.

Mehapoy · 27-03-2015 11:20am

Twoman Fullbackline wrote: »

O'Mahoney, Condon & Downes all unavailable with injury so that's about the strongest team as we could name.

Good to see Morrissey starting in Croke Park, getting used to the pitch is invaluable to the players. Think he's close enough to the starting team, if he can work on delivering better ball forward he will be a big asset.

I thought O'Grady would start alright but I would have preferred for us to be more adventurous in this regard and keep DOG in reserve for when the old head is needed.

Strong full-forward line, especially with Tobin in the form he is in. A big if, but if we can get good ball into them, they will deliver.

Is condon injured? Thought I read in the leader than he would be among the substitutes, hard to believe he would be below dan Morrissey in the pecking order though, reading into that it would seem that if gavin was available we would be fielding the same half back line as last year...hoping to see lynch and tom Morrissey in the second half when the game has broken up a bit and see what they can do in the spaces and surface that croke park has, want to see tobin and Mulcahy utilised aswell with the right type of ball, whether we have the wherewithal to do that remains to be seen...

Twoman Fullbackline · 27-03-2015 11:39am

Mehapoy wrote: »

Is condon injured? Thought I read in the leader than he would be among the substitutes, hard to believe he would be below dan Morrissey in the pecking order though, reading into that it would seem that if gavin was available we would be fielding the same half back line as last year...hoping to see lynch and tom Morrissey in the second half when the game has broken up a bit and see what they can do in the spaces and surface that croke park has, want to see tobin and Mulcahy utilised aswell with the right type of ball, whether we have the wherewithal to do that remains to be seen...

Saw that report as well so maybe the knocks they are carrying are not too serious. Tbh if Condon was fully fit I would have him on the other wing and move Paudie to midfield or half-forward. Think Condon, McNamara, Morrissey is about the strongest hb-line we've had so far this year.

paddy no 11 · 27-03-2015 12:21pm

Mehapoy wrote: »

Is condon injured? Thought I read in the leader than he would be among the substitutes, hard to believe he would be below dan Morrissey in the pecking order though, reading into that it would seem that if gavin was available we would be fielding the same half back line as last year...hoping to see lynch and tom Morrissey in the second half when the game has broken up a bit and see what they can do in the spaces and surface that croke park has, want to see tobin and Mulcahy utilised aswell with the right type of ball, whether we have the wherewithal to do that remains to be seen...

Agreed, think we all want to see the above happen.

glasagusban · 27-03-2015 5:10pm

I don't think we'll win this. Form wise dublin are miles ahead and under a new manager after a couple of disappointing years they have the greater motivation. We're coming off trashing semi finals the last two years and the focus this year has to be on going one better in summer rather than the league, especially with promotion gone from us anyway.

I'd like to see signs that we have a better game plan than bating high balls to full forward, that would be encouraging. After that, good performances from players that didn't start last year looking to nail down places would also be encouraging. Hope we also see full use of the bench.

N20 · 27-03-2015 9:20pm

14 is a lot to be calling on from last year

no sign of conor fitzgerald and peader collins I'm assuming lost to rugby - I hate that - rugby tends to ruin hurlers - if you can hurl why would you bother with rugby !

there's a lad with Roscrea as well, part of their leinster senior cup winning team, and part of tipp panel, it will be interesting to see if he commits to hurling for summer.

no sign of Aaron Gillane of patrickswell, he's still minor I think?

Bit of joke cork and Limerick could play each other twice - all of the aces with Limerick there

I think It's a close call myself

Fireball07 · 28-03-2015 2:06am

N20 wrote: »

14 is a lot to be calling on from last year

no sign of conor fitzgerald and peader collins I'm assuming lost to rugby - I hate that - rugby tends to ruin hurlers - if you can hurl why would you bother with rugby !

there's a lad with Roscrea as well, part of their leinster senior cup winning team, and part of tipp panel, it will be interesting to see if he commits to hurling for summer.

no sign of Aaron Gillane of patrickswell, he's still minor I think?

Bit of joke cork and Limerick could play each other twice - all of the aces with Limerick there

I think It's a close call myself

You can make money with rugby, look at Darren Sweetnam for example. It's not a surprise players try to make it rugby... I think Conor Fitzgerald is a better rugby player than hurler, hardly a surprise for someone like him, as talented as he was.

Strong panel tbf but I think Gillane is overage for minor this year.

N20 · 28-03-2015 11:24am

Fireball07 wrote: »

You can make money with rugby, look at Darren Sweetnam for example. It's not a surprise players try to make it rugby... I think Conor Fitzgerald is a better rugby player than hurler, hardly a surprise for someone like him, as talented as he was.

Strong panel tbf but I think Gillane is overage for minor this year.

I'd say Sweetnam scratching his head looking at Cork in AIs playing to capacity crowds in Croke Park 2013

He hasn't exactly made the big time playing club games to a few hundred in Cork Con (or maybe Dolphin - not sure )

renewed his contract with Munsterr again lately but must be very frustrating as an athlete not to be moving up and getting big games - Munster star on the wane of late as well

With minors at least there is a chance they could revert to hurling - ASR failed at senior cup again this year and Iwas wondering of those lads would come back to the hurling - although usually heavier and slower - but not too late

haven't seen Fitzgerlad playing but read his heroics all right place kicking for ASR - I think kids get seriously sucked into the rugby phenomenon at schools and there arent many opportunities for them afterwards

I think I'd pick the hurling everytime

Vanolder · 28-03-2015 1:09pm

N20 wrote: »

I'd say Sweetnam scratching his head looking at Cork in AIs playing to capacity crowds in Croke Park 2013

He hasn't exactly made the big time playing club games to a few hundred in Cork Con (or maybe Dolphin - not sure )

renewed his contract with Munsterr again lately but must be very frustrating as an athlete not to be moving up and getting big games - Munster star on the wane of late as well

With minors at least there is a chance they could revert to hurling - ASR failed at senior cup again this year and Iwas wondering of those lads would come back to the hurling - although usually heavier and slower - but not too late

haven't seen Fitzgerlad playing but read his heroics all right place kicking for ASR - I think kids get seriously sucked into the rugby phenomenon at schools and there arent many opportunities for them afterwards

I think I'd pick the hurling everytime

Collins has his heart set on making it at Rugby and Fitzgerald won't hurl for Limerick again after last year.

Fireball07 · 28-03-2015 1:20pm

Limerick football team sees the return of Pa Ranahan and Ian Ryan which is great news, it's a must-win game. Scanlon back in goal too.

1. Brian Scanlon (Gerald Griffin’s)
2. Stephen Cahill (Mountcollins)
3. Johnny McCarthy (St.Kieran’s)
4. Robert Browne (Fr. Casey’s)
5. Iain Corbett (Newcastlewest)
6. Paudie Browne (Fr. Casey’s)
7. Pa Ranahan (Ballysteen)
8. Tom Lee (Ballylanders)
9. Gearoid Hegarty (St. Patrick’s)
10. John Riordan (Fr Casey’s)
11. Darragh Tracey (St. Kieran’s)
12. Cillian Fahy (Dromcollogher/Broadford)
13. Peter Nash (Kildimo/Pallaskenry)
14. Seanie Buckley (Dromcollogher/Broadford) (Captain)
15. Ian Ryan (St. Senan’s)

Ryan & Nash inside presumably, lots of hard workers out the field, do we have enough scoring potential? You look at the players from 13-15 as the ones likely to get the scores.

sasta le · 28-03-2015 6:35pm

Seamus hickey didn't look happy there what happened there just tuned in

Colemania · 28-03-2015 6:37pm

sasta le wrote: »

Seamus hickey didn't look happy there what happened there just tuned in

Went off injured I think and probably just pissed off that he got injured again

paddy no 11 · 28-03-2015 6:40pm

Mulcahy and lynch aside that was awful, not acceptable

zombieHanalei · 28-03-2015 6:43pm

Can anyone watching on tv verify what happened to Cian Lynch? I sincerely hope it wasn't what it looked like to me.....

We have a bit of a breeze in the second half but so far its pretty much a case of a 1A team versus a 1B team....

sasta le · 28-03-2015 6:43pm

Young lynch skill to burn but the set up in physical terms take a while to get use it

goldfinger4296 · 28-03-2015 6:44pm

Forwards are terrible.

Colemania · 28-03-2015 6:45pm

zombieHanalei wrote: »

Can anyone watching on tv verify what happened to Cian Lynch? I sincerely hope it wasn't what it looked like to me.....

We have a bit of a breeze in the second half but so far its pretty much a case of a 1A team versus a 1B team....

Didn't look intentional but ya hopefully they show a replay.

Copper_pipe · 28-03-2015 6:47pm

Hanonn hasn't touched a ball

Boom__Boom · 28-03-2015 6:56pm

zombieHanalei wrote: »

Can anyone watching on tv verify what happened to Cian Lynch? I sincerely hope it wasn't what it looked like to me.....

We have a bit of a breeze in the second half but so far its pretty much a case of a 1A team versus a 1B team....

Watched it back and the Dublin player's leg tangled with Cian Lynch's legs before he landed with it on Lynch's back - I really doubt it was intentional the way his foot landed on Lynch's back it looked more like a player putting a foot down to stop himself stumbling - seriously sore though.

Limerick paying the price for playing 1B hurling.

Spudmonkey · 28-03-2015 7:00pm

This doesn't bode well for the year considering it's almost a full strength team.

cnoc · 28-03-2015 7:02pm

Copper_pipe wrote: »

Hanonn hasn't touched a ball

He did but dropped the ball in front of goal!

zombieHanalei · 28-03-2015 7:14pm

And people reckon 1B does us no harm? Yeah, sure it doesn't.....

archieknox · 28-03-2015 7:15pm

I thought the offaly game was just a blip and that ye would regroup but this evenings performance has been very poor. Alot of work needed before the Clare game.

zombieHanalei · 28-03-2015 7:23pm

Disaster of a league campaign.

Justin10 · 28-03-2015 7:27pm

zombieHanalei wrote: »

And people reckon 1B does us no harm? Yeah, sure it doesn't.....

Didn't do Dublin no harm, and 1b a lot more competitive now.

Clonmel1000 · 28-03-2015 7:30pm

Surely though Limerick hurling people want their county competing in the top tier playing the the bigger teams.

pajoguy · 28-03-2015 7:32pm

Clonmel1000 wrote: »

Surely though Limerick hurling people want their county competing in the top tier playing the the bigger teams.

Playing like they did tonight we would be in big trouble in 1a.
we are a champioship team but to win an all ireland we need to show alot more in the league.

pajoguy · 28-03-2015 7:33pm

Clonmel1000 wrote: »

Surely though Limerick hurling people want their county competing in the top tier playing the the bigger teams.

Playing like they did tonight we would be in big trouble in 1a.
we are a champioship team but to win an all ireland we need to show alot more in the league.

homeofhurling · 28-03-2015 7:48pm

zombieHanalei wrote: »

And people reckon 1B does us no harm? Yeah, sure it doesn't.....

didn't cork win the munster out of it last year, i feel limerick were way overrated this year have some fine young hurlers on the way but it might take time.

zombieHanalei · 28-03-2015 7:51pm

Clonmel1000 wrote: »

Surely though Limerick hurling people want their county competing in the top tier playing the the bigger teams.

You'd think so but a disturbingly large proportion of my fellow county men are content to accept mediocrity.

cnoc · 28-03-2015 7:51pm

pajoguy wrote: »

Playing like they did tonight we would be in big trouble in 1a.
we are a champioship team but to win an all ireland we need to show alot more in the league.

Will Limerick manage to beat Clare?

zombieHanalei · 28-03-2015 7:53pm

homeofhurling wrote: »

didn't cork win the munster out of it last year, i feel limerick were way overrated this year have some fine young hurlers on the way but it might take time.

What happened once they played their first knock out match? Provincial championships just a glorified warm up for qualifiers and all Ireland series.

peege · 28-03-2015 7:54pm

No sign of any half forwards today. Dublin walked through at times. Disappointing

zombieHanalei · 28-03-2015 7:54pm

"We are a championship team" is bollocks. One All Ireland since 1940 and people say that? Nonsense.

Vanolder · 28-03-2015 7:55pm

cnoc wrote: »

Will Limerick manage to beat Clare?

No. There's just something not quite right about the team this year. Training has been way off, touch is dreadful and even physicality is poor. Richie has a big gut on him. I'm hoping the real work starts now but it's 8 weeks to championship.

homeofhurling · 28-03-2015 8:02pm

zombieHanalei wrote: »

"We are a championship team" is bollocks. One All Ireland since 1940 and people say that? Nonsense.

have to agree with you, Limerick on there day are as good as any team, but i couldn't see them beat Clare, Tipp, Kilkenny to win an all ireland in the one year and maybe to play either clare or tipp twice.

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