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Civil Servcie mobility scheme

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    #122
    Conqueror
    Registered Users Posts: 179 ✭✭Conqueror


    Skippette wrote: »
    When do ye think they will start making HEO/AO mobility offers?

    The circular says end of May.


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    #123
    Skippette
    Registered Users Posts: 217 ✭✭Skippette


    Thanks for that!


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    #124
    billyhead
    Registered Users Posts: 9,589 ✭✭✭billyhead


    How are movements made. Is it 1st come 1st served on the list i.e once you have completed your PMDS successfully. Do they not check for your experience or educational background.


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    #125
    EB_2013
    Registered Users Posts: 811 ✭✭✭EB_2013


    AndrewJRenko wrote: »
    Why would NSSO figures be so much higher than other Departments though? Surely you could say the same for a lot of staff in rural offices?

    Could be the location too. It's in a tricky location if you have to rely on public transport compared to working in a city centre location.

    When I was looking at mobility it was at single digit numbers if you wanted to move there. You'd nearly get a move straight away. But seeing that half the place wants a move would definitely put you off. I'm surprised things haven't got better there as they been going for quite a while now but I've seen examples were people are asked for sick notes etc months later. There always seems to be long delays.


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    #126
    AndrewJRenko
    Registered Users Posts: 28,468 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    EB_2013 wrote: »
    Could be the location too. It's in a tricky location if you have to rely on public transport compared to working in a city centre location.
    That's true, though the flip side is that it seems to be the one of very few public sector offices with loads of parking available.


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    #127
    prettyboy81
    Registered Users Posts: 2,579 ✭✭✭prettyboy81


    AP & PO mobility transitioning from email notification weekly over to PeoplePoint Portal from 29th March.


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    #128
    CZ 453
    Registered Users Posts: 1,725 ✭✭✭CZ 453


    Conqueror wrote: »
    The circular says end of May.

    Anyone know if this is still on track to begin for the end of this month?


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    #129
    Conqueror
    Registered Users Posts: 179 ✭✭Conqueror


    CZ 453 wrote: »
    Anyone know if this is still on track to begin for the end of this month?
    No idea, but the contact email is mobility@peoplepoint.ie


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    #130
    griffid
    Registered Users Posts: 66 ✭✭griffid


    Conqueror wrote: »
    No idea, but the contact email is mobility@peoplepoint.ie

    I sent an email earlier this afternoon. No reply yet. They’ll be sick of us asking.


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    #131
    griffid
    Registered Users Posts: 66 ✭✭griffid


    Got this from Per Mobility today in response to my email:

    Thank you for contacting HR Shared Services.
    It is scheduled that offer stage for Mobility at your grade will be launched at the end of May 2021 however a date has not yet been confirmed.

    Any update on the launch date will be posted on the Civil Service Mobility page of the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform’s website .

    If you require further clarification, you can respond to the Central Mobility Team at mobility@peoplepoint.ie .


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    #132
    Galwayhurl
    Registered Users Posts: 271 ✭✭Galwayhurl


    I have 2 questions about mobility. (EO level)

    1. If I'm in Dublin and I want to move to say, Cork, do I have to wait for someone in Cork to want to move to Dublin? i.e. a swap

    2. How long of a wait is it usually. I know it depends vastly but is it possible to secure a move in 6 months or is more likely to be something like 2 years?

    Thanks.


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    #133
    doc22
    Registered Users Posts: 859 ✭✭✭doc22


    Galwayhurl wrote: »
    I have 2 questions about mobility. (EO level)

    1. If I'm in Dublin and I want to move to say, Cork, do I have to wait for someone in Cork to want to move to Dublin? i.e. a swap

    2. How long of a wait is it usually. I know it depends vastly but is it possible to secure a move in 6 months or is more likely to be something like 2 years?

    Thanks.

    2 years before you can move, but at EO level an 8th of posts can be filled by mobility. Depending on say the age of existing EOs(retirements) at the place you want to move and your current place on panel you could be waiting FAR longer then 2years. If you where number 1 on mobility panel for an area/department you could be potentially 8th in line for EO role.


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    #134
    billyhead
    Registered Users Posts: 9,589 ✭✭✭billyhead


    griffid wrote: »
    Got this from Per Mobility today in response to my email:

    Thank you for contacting HR Shared Services.
    It is scheduled that offer stage for Mobility at your grade will be launched at the end of May 2021 however a date has not yet been confirmed.

    Any update on the launch date will be posted on the Civil Service Mobility page of the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform’s website .

    If you require further clarification, you can respond to the Central Mobility Team at mobility@peoplepoint.ie .

    What grade are you griffid and how long would you expect in your opinion to wait for an offer?


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    #135
    Galwayhurl
    Registered Users Posts: 271 ✭✭Galwayhurl


    doc22 wrote: »
    2 years before you can move, but at EO level an 8th of posts can be filled by mobility. Depending on say the age of existing EOs(retirements) at the place you want to move and your current place on panel you could be waiting FAR longer then 2years. If you where number 1 on mobility panel for an area/department you could be potentially 8th in line for EO role.

    Right, that makes sense. Thanks very much for that.


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    #136
    Skippette
    Registered Users Posts: 217 ✭✭Skippette


    griffid wrote: »
    Got this from Per Mobility today in response to my email:

    Thank you for contacting HR Shared Services.
    It is scheduled that offer stage for Mobility at your grade will be launched at the end of May 2021 however a date has not yet been confirmed.

    Any update on the launch date will be posted on the Civil Service Mobility page of the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform’s website .

    If you require further clarification, you can respond to the Central Mobility Team at mobility@peoplepoint.ie .

    I emailed the union this morning to see if they had any further updates. If/when I get a response, I'll post it here.


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    #137
    Skippette
    Registered Users Posts: 217 ✭✭Skippette


    No update from the union yet. I emailed Peoplepoint mobility and got this back:

    Unfortunately we are still waiting on a confirmed date for offers to start from Mobility Policy in PER.

    Things are on track for offers to start in the near future and when the date has been confirmed notification will issue out to all officers that have mobility applications.
    More information about Civil Service Mobility can be found on the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform’s website.

    For more information about HR Shared Services, please visit our website.

    What's the definition of near future???? Finger's crossed everyone!!


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    #138
    CZ 453
    Registered Users Posts: 1,725 ✭✭✭CZ 453


    Skippette wrote: »
    No update from the union yet. I emailed Peoplepoint mobility and got this back:

    Unfortunately we are still waiting on a confirmed date for offers to start from Mobility Policy in PER.

    Things are on track for offers to start in the near future and when the date has been confirmed notification will issue out to all officers that have mobility applications.
    More information about Civil Service Mobility can be found on the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform’s website.

    For more information about HR Shared Services, please visit our website.

    What's the definition of near future???? Finger's crossed everyone!!

    They'll make people wait till May 31st or May 32nd if your name is Stephen Donnelly :pac:


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    #139
    The Third Policeman
    Registered Users Posts: 17 ✭The Third Policeman


    Sounds like we're all mad for road. Hoping for an update next week. Will be interesting to see how fast it moves.


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    #140
    Addle
    Registered Users Posts: 4,812 ✭✭✭Addle


    The Third Policeman wrote: »
    Sounds like we're all mad for road. Hoping for an update next week. Will be interesting to see how fast it moves.

    All 1 way traffic out of Dublin?


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    #141
    The Third Policeman
    Registered Users Posts: 17 ✭The Third Policeman


    I reckon remote/blended working will take the emphasis out of Dublin as it is. Interesting to see if the next round of general recruitements will have the emphasis on choosing a location.


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    #142
    helen87
    Registered Users Posts: 73 ✭✭helen87


    I have been recently offered mobility as a HEO from Dublin to the midlands, only applied last July so was surprised to get it so quick, starting my new role at the end of the month. there is hope out there for all of you!
    With working from home being such a huge success it does not make sense to keep people in Dublin for going iinto an offic for an odd day here or there.


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    #143
    Skippette
    Registered Users Posts: 217 ✭✭Skippette


    helen87 wrote: »
    I have been recently offered mobility as a HEO from Dublin to the midlands, only applied last July so was surprised to get it so quick, starting my new role at the end of the month. there is hope out there for all of you!
    With working from home being such a huge success it does not make sense to keep people in Dublin for going iinto an offic for an odd day here or there.

    Hi Helen, Congrats!! Is it from an internal panel that you got the transfer?


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    #144
    helen87
    Registered Users Posts: 73 ✭✭helen87


    Skippette wrote: »
    Hi Helen, Congrats!! Is it from an internal panel that you got the transfer?

    yes i got an internal transfer, delighted !!


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    #145
    Addle
    Registered Users Posts: 4,812 ✭✭✭Addle


    helen87 wrote: »
    yes i got an internal transfer, delighted !!

    Delighted for you Helen.
    It breaks the rules, but I like to see employers looking after their own.
    Wish they all would!


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    #146
    doc22
    Registered Users Posts: 859 ✭✭✭doc22


    Addle wrote: »
    Delighted for you Helen.
    It breaks the rules, but I like to see employers looking after their own.
    Wish they all would!

    What rules mobility hasn't started?


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    #147
    Addle
    Registered Users Posts: 4,812 ✭✭✭Addle


    doc22 wrote: »
    What rules mobility hasn't started?
    Internal transfers are stopped according to my HR.
    Mobility is supposed to be the only way to move.


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    #148
    doc22
    Registered Users Posts: 859 ✭✭✭doc22


    Addle wrote: »
    Internal transfers are stopped according to my HR.
    Mobility is supposed to be the only way to move.

    little difference if you were no1 on internal transfers you'd still be no1 on mobility, internals kept place/legacy dates. From EO mobility the old system stopped once offers began.


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    #149
    SouthWesterly
    Registered Users Posts: 6,504 ✭✭✭SouthWesterly


    Does placing your request on hold still move you up but just skip over you when the time comes?


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    #150
    An Ri rua
    Registered Users Posts: 4,475 ✭✭✭An Ri rua


    Re internal mobility, it hasn't ceased. Location to location yes, but not within locations.

    I was unaware, perhaps most of you are also (?), that under OPS2020 a commitment was made to publish an internal mobility policy in tandem with the launch of the Service Wide Mobility Scheme. Google 'Guidelines for Departmental Internal Mobility' and 'Letter to Personnel Officers from David Cagney re Departmental Internal Mobility Guidelines' (2017).

    Anyone have an official Internal Mobility Policy, particularly as per those Guidelines, in their Dept?


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    #151
    rostalof
    Registered Users Posts: 330 ✭✭rostalof


    The Offer Stage of Phase 2A of the Civil Service Mobility scheme will go live on Tuesday 8th June 2021. This Phase facilitates Mobility within all Zones for the grades of Higher Executive Officer and Administrative Officer.

    https://hr.per.gov.ie/career/civil-service-mobility/#

    As it was for the EO scheme, internal location to location transfers don't stop until the placements begin. I transferred location to location a week after the EO scheme placements started. My transfer was signed off on after the application stage but 3 months before the placements started. No rules are being broken in this scenario.


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