Civil Servcie mobility scheme

cee_jay wrote: »

All APs I know in ICT are generalist or AP ICT grade. I don't know any who are counted under P&T.

doc22 wrote: »

If you're an AP be that in an ICT role or not you can apply. Professional and technical roles from my view would be solicitor,ag inspector, engineer grades not an AP specialist in ICT who'd be free to apply.

Local HR tell me that my role is a P&T role - recruited via a PAS specialist competition.

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

Local HR tell me that my role is a P&T role - recruited via a PAS specialist competition.

A guy I work with, an EO, was told the same thing. He was also told he wouldn't be eligible for a move under the mobility scheme, it's not true. I checked it out and had it confirmed that he is eligible. I think it was Peoplepoint who confirmed it, I'll check tomorrow.

I wonder is it just an assumption made by HR in some department(s)/organisation(s)?

Kirbi

cee_jay wrote: »

All APs I know in ICT are generalist or AP ICT grade. I don't know any who are counted under P&T.

Yeah, it's the same in my organisation - they'd all be on the standard scale, hired under a generalist contract, etc.

rostalof wrote: »

A guy I work with, an EO, was told the same thing. He was also told he wouldn't be eligible for a move under the mobility scheme, it's not true. I checked it out and had it confirmed that he is eligible. I think it was Peoplepoint who confirmed it, I'll check tomorrow.

I wonder is it just an assumption made by HR in some department(s)/organisation(s)?

I checked my emails this morning. It was confirmed by a Forsa Rep who negotiated the mobility scheme with DPER, mobility@peoplepoint and by the mobility team at DPER.

doc22

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

Local HR tell me that my role is a P&T role - recruited via a PAS specialist competition.

perhaps HR don't want to lose and hence replace staff, perhaps having to make new business case etc. ? In my view an AP is an AP regardless of specialist role. While an AP equivalent grade such as an accountant can't.

doc22 wrote: »

perhaps HR don't want to lose and hence replace staff, perhaps having to make new business case etc. ? In my view an AP is an AP regardless of specialist role. While an AP equivalent grade such as an accountant can't.

That's definitely it. They can't retain ICT staff generally.

Aine1981

Is there any reason why mobility isn't offered to Professional or Technical? Was it ever offered?

willthiswork

shamrock woman wrote: »

The mobility list for various departments for EO in the south of the country hasnt moved at all for the last year it seems to me, although I know it was suspended for a few months because of covid. Has anyone actually moved via mobility at that grade in cork?

Yeah, I know someone who will be starting their new role next week through mobility within Cork as an EO.

shamrock woman

willthiswork wrote: »

Yeah, I know someone who will be starting their new role next week through mobility within Cork as an EO.

That's good news that someone has moved, I suppose the way recruitment is sorted the mobility list would be slow anyway. Just surprised by how slow it is.

griffid

Maybe this has been asked/answered already, but does anyone know definitively if the number of posts per grade shown when you click a blue dot on the mobility map are the number of vacant posts to be filled, or are they simply the number of positions at that grade in that location.

Kirbi

griffid wrote: »

Maybe this has been asked/answered already, but does anyone know definitively if the number of posts per grade shown when you click a blue dot on the mobility map are the number of vacant posts to be filled, or are they simply the number of positions at that grade in that location.

It's the total number of positions in the office, both filled and vacant.

According to an article in the Sunday times:

Over 50 per cent of staff in NSSO are seeking a transfer

Approx 25 per cent of staff in DSP are seeking a transfer

Approx 25 per cent in Garda Civilian are seeking a transfer

shamrock woman

Spacific wrote: »

According to an article in the Sunday times:

Over 50 per cent of staff in NSSO are seeking a transfer

Approx 25 per cent of staff in DSP are seeking a transfer

Approx 25 per cent in Garda Civilian are seeking a transfer

Was that last Sunday?

Spacific wrote: »

According to an article in the Sunday times:

Over 50 per cent of staff in NSSO are seeking a transfer

Jeez, I had heard some bad stories but that's exceptional. What grades are this?

56 per cent of EO's
46 per cent of CO's

Spacific wrote: »

56 per cent EO
46 per cent CO

No mathematicians working there by the looks of it.....

rostalof wrote: »

No mathematicians working there by the looks of it.....

No mathematicians posting here by the looks of it.

shamrock woman

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

Jeez, I had heard some bad stories but that's exceptional. What grades are this?

What do you mean by bad stories?

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

No mathematicians posting here by the looks of it.

I see the original poster edited his post.

rostalof wrote:

I see the original poster edited his post.

Edited to make it clear for those who did not understand!

Spacific wrote: »

Edited to make it clear for those who did not understand!

You mean you corrected it. There's no other way to understand what you originally posted.

"56 per cent EO
46 per cent CO"

Hopefully you're one of the 102% of the 50% in the NSSO that's looking for a transfer.

shamrock woman wrote: »

What do you mean by bad stories?

I heard they had high turnover, and some groups there were under huge pressure and seemed to be under resourced.

rostalof wrote:

You mean you corrected it. There's no other way to understand what you originally posted.

rostalof wrote:

"56 per cent EO 46 per cent CO"

rostalof wrote:

Hopefully you're one of the 102% in the NSSO that's looking for a transfer.

rostalof wrote:

You mean you corrected it. There's no other way to understand what you originally posted.

rostalof wrote:

"56 per cent EO 46 per cent CO"

rostalof wrote:

Hopefully you're one of the 102% in the NSSO that's looking for a transfer.

Someone asked the breakdown of grades that make up the 50 per cent of staff looking for a transfer.
56 per cent of one group of people and 46 per cent of another group of people does not equal 102 per cent of all people. Simple really.

rostalof wrote: »

You mean you corrected it. There's no other way to understand what you originally posted.

"56 per cent EO
46 per cent CO"

Hopefully you're one of the 102% in the NSSO that's looking for a transfer.

I understood exactly what was meant first time around.

Don't blame others for your jumping to a wrong conclusion.

Spacific wrote: »

Someone asked the breakdown of grades that make up the 50 per cent of staff looking for a transfer.
56 per cent of one group of people and 46 per cent of another group of people does not equal 102 per cent of all people. Simple really.

It is simple, but that's not what you posted initially. As you said, "Someone asked the breakdown of grades that make up the 50 per cent of staff looking for a transfer", you replied 46 percent CO and 56 percent EO. Making 102% of the 50% looking to transfer. Then you corrected your post to 46 percent of COs and 56 percent of EOs. Which does make sense.

Anyway, keep up the good work in payroll.

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

I heard they had high turnover, and some groups there were under huge pressure and seemed to be under resourced.

A lot of rural nsso staff are driving up to 2 hours to get to work and are looking for closer to home.

SouthWesterly wrote: »

A lot of rural nsso staff are driving up to 2 hours to get to work and are looking for closer to home.

Why would NSSO figures be so much higher than other Departments though? Surely you could say the same for a lot of staff in rural offices?