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  • 25-07-2015 2:47pm
    #1
    Timmaay
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    24/6/16

    Recently we saw three posters close their accounts over disagreements in the dairy threads. While there is a lot of frustration and discontent with current milk prices and the processing industry, the recent tendency for dairy threads to become tit-for-tat arguments isn’t tolerable for those not involved.

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  • #2
    johnny122
    Registered Users Posts: 106 ✭✭johnny122


    whelan2 wrote: »
    do you wear gloves? do you milk record? when were the liners last changed?

    Changed liners. Just did a test on one's I thought suspect found 5 in the millions.


  • #3
    whelan2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,823 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    johnny122 wrote: »
    Changed liners. Just did a test on one's I thought suspect found 5 in the millions.
    I used to have a problem, got rid of the millionaires, even if you are keeping their milk they are still infeCting the others. had a blip there last week went up to 309, milk recorded, was a cow was 7 million, I sent her to factory and am back under 200 now.


  • #4
    Buford T. Justice XIX
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    johnny122 wrote: »
    Changed liners. Just did a test on one's I thought suspect found 5 in the millions.
    Wear gloves always.

    Scrape/wash the holding yard after each milking.

    Get the milking machine serviced as poor vacuum and fluctuating vacuum can cause mastitis.

    Check all the rubberware for holes like in pulse tubes and replace any with problems.

    Draw each quarter of each cow before milking and treat as soon as you see clots. Check all quarters after milking at least once to find any hard quarters and treat those.

    The liner, after coming off an infected cow, can infect the next 6 cows milked with that cluster. Be sure to disinfect each cluster either by dipping or spraying some premilking disinfectant.

    Spray/dip each quarter after taking off the cluster. Use lots of spray and make sure the spray is getting to cover all around each tit, not just in the general direction of the tit. You should be using 10ml of dip if teat dipping and 15ml of spray for each cow if you are spraying.

    Let the cows out into a clean area for a while after milking to let the teat ends close cleanly.

    Make sure the roadways and entrances to each field are clean and dry.

    Think about milk recording or at least get the whole herd done once with samples to find all the high scc cows. Recording for a year will show you the high cows and how they are responding to treatment. Then treat/cull as needed.

    Been there, done that. Scc is ambling along at 100-115 the last while, thankfully. When you're drying off, you need to take special care of the high girls with injections/longer drycow therapy.


  • #5
    Mulumpy
    Registered Users Posts: 815 ✭✭✭Mulumpy


    Pre and post dip with lactic acid based dip during housing.
    Clusters straight on during summer and post dipped.
    Any cow that records above 1m is cultured if no obvious signs. Any cow that is over a second time is culled immediately.
    Avg scc this year is 35k.


  • #6
    Buford T. Justice XIX
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    Mulumpy wrote: »
    Pre and post dip with lactic acid based dip during housing.
    Clusters straight on during summer and post dipped.
    Any cow that records above 1m is cultured if no obvious signs. Any cow that is over a second time is culled immediately.
    Avg scc this year is 35k.
    I used to think that an scc under 50 wasn't possible but it is for everyone, tbh.


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  • #7
    Mulumpy
    Registered Users Posts: 815 ✭✭✭Mulumpy


    Buford T. Justice V wrote:
    I used to think that an scc under 50 wasn't possible but it is for everyone, tbh.


    My avg last year was 126. Changed my dry cow tubes and culled hard in the spring so it's paying off. Only takes one bad case to feck it up. Clean yards, gaps and a stress free environment so important too. A dry summer also makes big difference.


  • #8
    Pacoa
    Registered Users Posts: 520 ✭✭✭Pacoa


    Had a test of 42k at the start of july and the very day i got it on the phone the milking machine guy came and changed the liners. That evening the cows seemed to be holding the milk and two days later i have a mastitis case. Scc goes to 122k but its now back down at 70k.
    So do yee guys notice cows holding milk like that after changing liners mid lactation or is it just my divas?


    and the 10000 post goes to.......drumroll.......


  • #9
    Deepsouthwest
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,282 ✭✭✭Deepsouthwest


    whelan2 wrote: »
    anyone milking once a day on a sunday?

    Have done it here for the last 6/7 yrs, normally start in mid/late September.


  • #10
    frogloch
    Closed Accounts Posts: 130 ✭✭frogloch


    Buford T. Justice V wrote: »
    I used to think that an scc under 50 wasn't possible but it is for everyone, tbh.

    Did anyone ever tell you the old chestnut of [O your cell count is too low the cows will have no imunity to mastitis]. My milk machine serviceman used to be telling me that nonsense. The lower the better get all trace of infection out of them. I was selling 2 milking late calvers in the mart got their milk cell count tested and they came back 11k and 13k, I don't think they believed me in the mart it could be so low. What works for me is keep the hands off their teats. Don't go looking for a problem if you don't have one. Now if you have one look for it. You wouldn't let a surgeon move between patients without disinfecting his/her hands first.


  • #11
    einn32
    Registered Users Posts: 1,016 ✭✭✭einn32


    Milking 480 in a 20 unit double out here in oz. Takes about 2.5 hours to milk. Wash down takes about an hour if you do the collecting yards. It does take it's toll on the body after a while I find but you don't realise it until your days off.


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  • #12
    frazzledhome
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,278 ✭✭✭frazzledhome


    einn32 wrote: »
    Milking 480 in a 20 unit double out here in oz. Takes about 2.5 hours to milk. Wash down takes about an hour if you do the collecting yards. It does take it's toll on the body after a while I find but you don't realise it until your days off.

    Are they in one herd?


  • #13
    einn32
    Registered Users Posts: 1,016 ✭✭✭einn32


    frazzledhome wrote: »
    Are they in one herd?

    About 16 in a lame/old cow herd at the minute.


  • #14
    orm0nd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,232 ✭✭✭orm0nd


    Buford T. Justice V wrote: »
    Wear gloves always.

    Scrape/wash the holding yard after each milking.

    Get the milking machine serviced as poor vacuum and fluctuating vacuum can cause mastitis.

    Check all the rubberware for holes like in pulse tubes and replace any with problems.

    Draw each quarter of each cow before milking and treat as soon as you see clots. Check all quarters after milking at least once to find any hard quarters and treat those.

    The liner, after coming off an infected cow, can infect the next 6 cows milked with that cluster. Be sure to disinfect each cluster either by dipping or spraying some premilking disinfectant.

    Spray/dip each quarter after taking off the cluster. Use lots of spray and make sure the spray is getting to cover all around each tit, not just in the general direction of the tit. You should be using 10ml of dip if teat dipping and 15ml of spray for each cow if you are spraying.

    Let the cows out into a clean area for a while after milking to let the teat ends close cleanly.

    Make sure the roadways and entrances to each field are clean and dry.

    Think about milk recording or at least get the whole herd done once with samples to find all the high scc cows. Recording for a year will show you the high cows and how they are responding to treatment. Then treat/cull as needed.

    Been there, done that. Scc is ambling along at 100-115 the last while, thankfully. When you're drying off, you need to take special care of the high girls with injections/longer drycow therapy.

    you forgot 1 of the worst causes of high scc

    stray voltage


  • #15
    mahoney_j
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,330 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    frogloch wrote: »
    Did anyone ever tell you the old chestnut of [O your cell count is too low the cows will have no imunity to mastitis]. My milk machine serviceman used to be telling me that nonsense. The lower the better get all trace of infection out of them. I was selling 2 milking late calvers in the mart got their milk cell count tested and they came back 11k and 13k, I don't think they believed me in the mart it could be so low. What works for me is keep the hands off their teats. Don't go looking for a problem if you don't have one. Now if you have one look for it. You wouldn't let a surgeon move between patients without disinfecting his/her hands first.

    Keeping hands of teats,(cows ones anyway!!!)is crucial to stop spreading,introducing infection.thats one of key things vet told me a few years ago whenni had scc issues .i cleared things up by using milk recording records to find offenders,culturing a few samples to find what bugs ,culling out any older high scc cows,giving any young cows a long dry cow period and treating with cepravin,sealers,and a bottle of tylovet at dry off.things like gloves at milking .machine serviced ,clean yards and roadways etc should be a given


  • #16
    johnny122
    Registered Users Posts: 106 ✭✭johnny122


    mahoney_j wrote: »
    Keeping hands of teats,(cows ones anyway!!!)is crucial to stop spreading,introducing infection.thats one of key things vet told me a few years ago whenni had scc issues .i cleared things up by using milk recording records to find offenders,culturing a few samples to find what bugs ,culling out any older high scc cows,giving any young cows a long dry cow period and treating with cepravin,sealers,and a bottle of tylovet at dry off.things like gloves at milking .machine serviced ,clean yards and roadways etc should be a given

    No hands on titties lads ?? That's no fun :-)


  • #17
    just do it
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,422 ✭✭✭just do it


    frazzledhome wrote: »
    Not even close. At least your moving

    Sure a lad would have have no time for a fag break milking that many :)


  • #18
    just do it
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,422 ✭✭✭just do it


    Wild wet west Clare
    20150726_090819.jpg


  • #19
    Buford T. Justice XIX
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    orm0nd wrote: »
    you forgot 1 of the worst causes of high scc

    stray voltage
    Yeah, meant to put that in.

    There are different types of current problems as well.

    When my Scc was around 200, i tested for voltage and nothing showed up. Then last year I lost a lot of sheds in the storm and the lights around the yard were acting up and causing the power to trip. So I had my electrician out every week trying to sort it out and it was ok till late in the year when it started acting up again and Scc rose again to 250.

    Then this spring we lost power for a day due to a faulty water pump further down the line but my electrician said that excuse wasn't right. He told me that there was a problem on my transformer and ring and tell them it was dangerous, which I did.

    They weren't happy coming out that evening but were very sheepish when they came down the pole after finding a badly installed yokey(technical term) on the transformer.

    I've had no problems since and all this year the Scc is under 200, bar one period after starting up milking.


  • #20
    whelan2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,823 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    frogloch wrote: »
    Did anyone ever tell you the old chestnut of [O your cell count is too low the cows will have no imunity to mastitis]. My milk machine serviceman used to be telling me that nonsense. The lower the better get all trace of infection out of them. I was selling 2 milking late calvers in the mart got their milk cell count tested and they came back 11k and 13k, I don't think they believed me in the mart it could be so low. What works for me is keep the hands off their teats. Don't go looking for a problem if you don't have one. Now if you have one look for it. You wouldn't let a surgeon move between patients without disinfecting his/her hands first.
    had a cow with a very low scc and she got gangrene mastitis , you could see her udder going black , she died


  • #21
    keep going
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,551 ✭✭✭keep going


    My opinions on scc is there multiple factors that can influence it but if you have cell count you have infection.then you have to break it down in to two areas is there issues that make the cows more prone(teat end condition, cow health and cow susepablity) or is it something in the cows environment-cleaniness, other infected cows, milkers habits and cow management.my view is stray voltage and weather are stress factors that only trigger high scc in already infected cow but I could see where weather would in crease environmental infection pressure


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  • #22
    kevthegaff
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,044 ✭✭✭kevthegaff


    just do it wrote: »
    Wild wet west Clare
    20150726_090819.jpg

    Few stones to be pick there:-D, aftergrass?


  • #23
    Bullocks
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,890 ✭✭✭Bullocks


    kevthegaff wrote: »
    Few stones to be pick there:-D, aftergrass?

    I bet you won't pick them by hand too easy !


  • #24
    just do it
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,422 ✭✭✭just do it


    kevthegaff wrote: »
    Few stones to be pick there:-D, aftergrass?

    Not my place but only a few miles away. Haven't ran by there in a while but think it's a grazing only paddock. Maybe a few surplus bales were taken off it.


  • #25
    just do it
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,422 ✭✭✭just do it


    Are they not cow dung? On mobile so can't see them that closely


  • #26
    frogloch
    Closed Accounts Posts: 130 ✭✭frogloch


    Why does it still say on the back of the glanbia milk statement quota litres and supply as % of current quota. I thought that was all behind us. Why not just supply litres? The annual reference butterfat is on aswell. It's still saying quota remaining to march as well.:confused:


  • #27
    keep going
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,551 ✭✭✭keep going


    The latest edition of dairy farmer from journal makes for interesting if scary reading


  • #28
    awaywithyou
    Registered Users Posts: 2,056 ✭✭✭awaywithyou


    keep going wrote: »
    The latest edition of dairy farmer from journal makes for interesting if scary reading


    whats scary bout it??


  • #29
    keep going
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,551 ✭✭✭keep going


    awaywithyou wrote: »
    whats scary bout it??

    The level of risk taken on particularly the hickeys and the two boys in america


  • #30
    awaywithyou
    Registered Users Posts: 2,056 ✭✭✭awaywithyou


    keep going wrote: »
    The level of risk taken on particularly the hickeys and the two boys in america

    dont know them hickey brothers.... but i'd say they have there heads well screwed on.... didnt read the american ventures.... but best of luck to them.... i thought it was a good publication... there is a guy from my area in it... good farmer...

    i do wonder about this obsession with cross-breeding though.... it was mentioned in most articles i read.....

    why hasnt jackie k made a trip to stan or any of the holstein only lads....?


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  • #31
    mahoney_j
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,330 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    awaywithyou wrote: »
    dont know them hickey brothers.... but i'd say they have there heads well screwed on.... didnt read the american ventures.... but best of luck to them.... i thought it was a good publication... there is a guy from my area in it... good farmer...

    i do wonder about this obsession with cross-breeding though.... it was mentioned in most articles i read.....

    why hasnt jackie k made a trip to stan or any of the holstein only lads....?

    Christ you'll be excommunicated for that last statement !!!think Jackie would be way out of his depth in a place like that as spoofing would get him no where.interesting articles and profiles in the magazine though...


  • #32
    frazzledhome
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,278 ✭✭✭frazzledhome


    mahoney_j wrote: »
    Christ you'll be excommunicated for that last statement !!!think Jackie would be way out of his depth in a place like that as spoofing would get him no where.interesting articles and profiles in the magazine though...

    Maybe just maybe xbreds are profitable, Hickey lads have bought 3 substantial farms out of them. No land sold to fund either.

    Before you go off on one, I didn't say Hols aren't


  • #33
    mahoney_j
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,330 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    frazzledhome wrote: »
    Maybe just maybe xbreds are profitable, Hickey lads have bought 3 substantial farms out of them. No land sold to fund either.

    Before you go off on one, I didn't say Hols aren't

    Go off on one .....me......never .


  • #34
    Pacoa
    Registered Users Posts: 520 ✭✭✭Pacoa


    http://www.farmersjournal.ie/farmers-block-road-in-protest-in-england-186073/


  • #35
    keep going
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,551 ✭✭✭keep going


    The other thing scared me was the unwavering conviction in expansion and future dairying profitability


  • #36
    kevthegaff
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,044 ✭✭✭kevthegaff


    keep going wrote: »
    The level of risk taken on particularly the hickeys and the two boys in america
    What did they do kg? Who are they?


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  • #37
    frogloch
    Closed Accounts Posts: 130 ✭✭frogloch


    Pacoa wrote: »
    http://www.farmersjournal.ie/farmers-block-road-in-protest-in-england-186073/

    You'd wonder how there's a crisis over there. I mean during quota years they were always underquota so shouldn't be a problem of excess milk. They're not an exporting nation so shouldn't be affected by so called "world prices". Is it just an internal problem with supermarkets pushing down prices against each other or is comsumption falling?


  • #38
    Deepsouthwest
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,282 ✭✭✭Deepsouthwest


    keep going wrote: »
    The level of risk taken on particularly the hickeys and the two boys in america

    The scariest thing for me is the US's shear capacity and potential to flood the rest of the world with milk. With massive cull cow prices, drop calf prices, cheap inputs and the governments new intervention(which is more or less a guaranteed price for any milk produced).
    It's puts countries massively reliant on export like ourselves and NZ in a v precarious position.
    They will control world milk price for the foreseeable future, and I think that's gonna be somewhere in the v low 30's.


  • #39
    keep going
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,551 ✭✭✭keep going


    kevthegaff wrote: »
    What did they do kg? Who are they?

    Ah nothing much they farming in kilkenny got a notion one day and bought a farm in westmeath for 3.7 million, threw 250 or so cows on it , hadnt enough work in that so bought another couple hunderd acres then and stuck another 350 on it, loose figures but you get the drift


  • #40
    keep going
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,551 ✭✭✭keep going


    Deepsouthwest wrote: »
    The scariest thing for me is the US's shear capacity and potential to flood the rest of the world with milk. With massive cull cow prices, drop calf prices, cheap inputs and the governments new intervention(which is more or less a guaranteed price for any milk produced).
    It's puts countries massively reliant on export like ourselves and NZ in a v precarious position.
    They will control world milk price for the foreseeable future, and I think that's gonna be somewhere in the v low 30's.

    Are you being optimistic


  • #41
    Deepsouthwest
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,282 ✭✭✭Deepsouthwest


    keep going wrote: »
    Are you being optimistic

    I'm talking about price for the nxt 5 yrs, just my opinion, but I can't any reason for a major increase for a long time


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  • #42
    einn32
    Registered Users Posts: 1,016 ✭✭✭einn32


    Boss man here in oz was talking this morning about farmers selling off heifers to China to generate cash, Chinese investing in a local hay export company, purchasing farms here. Are they going to supply themselves with food?


  • #43
    frazzledhome
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,278 ✭✭✭frazzledhome


    einn32 wrote: »
    Milking 480 in a 20 unit double out here in oz. Takes about 2.5 hours to milk. Wash down takes about an hour if you do the collecting yards. It does take it's toll on the body after a while I find but you don't realise it until your days off.

    Are you a milker or assisting the owner?

    If you want a few brownie points, suggest putting all the heifers and hi dependence cows in one group. It will mean a bit more work bringing cows to and fro but his solids will increase and his in calf rate will improve.

    You may even be able to negotiate a small bonus into it, perhaps a $per every 10kgms extra and $10 per every cow less empty.

    On 450 cows that could become $12/1400 at the seasons end. You'd get a week in a hoor house before you come home out of it :):)


  • #44
    Kovu
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,241 ✭✭✭✭Kovu


    Holy shít guys! Well done on completing the first thread, welcome to Dairy Two Point Oh :D


  • #45
    jaymla627
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,755 ✭✭✭jaymla627


    frazzledhome wrote: »
    Are you a milker or assisting the owner?

    If you want a few brownie points, suggest putting all the heifers and hi dependence cows in one group. It will mean a bit more work bringing cows to and fro but his solids will increase and his in calf rate will improve.

    You may even be able to negotiate a small bonus into it, perhaps a $per every 10kgms extra and $10 per every cow less empty.

    On 450 cows that could become $12/1400 at the seasons end. You'd get a week in a hoor house before you come home out of it :):)


    1200/1400 would be loose change re wages out their, the single most important thing when working out their is to get paid by the hour, and not a salary....
    Was clearing 300 a week more in my last job then the other farm manager on the boss man's other farm as he was salary, he was fairly pissed off when we got talking about wages one day


  • #46
    frogloch
    Closed Accounts Posts: 130 ✭✭frogloch


    einn32 wrote: »
    Boss man here in oz was talking this morning about farmers selling off heifers to China to generate cash, Chinese investing in a local hay export company, purchasing farms here. Are they going to supply themselves with food?

    Ha China doesn't buy milk they buy the farm, the coop, the ships or planes to bring it home. There's no such thing as the dole out there you either work or starve. So why don't you buy the companies that are supplying us with products we need and employ Chinese people instead. Control the product and keep money in Chinese circulation. They don't have the same short term view that people in the west have. Everything is for their country and their thinking is long term 100years, 200years, 500years from now. We threw the doors open to the vice president now president of china 2 years ago when he came to see our dairy farming. He wasn't on a tour to see our products he was on a recon mission to see which dairy system would best suit their own country. He was in the US before he came here looking at their dairy farming systems and they've gone with that model building big dairy units in china and buying heifers in Canada and Australia. People will say our products command a premium in their supermarkets but the government will only allow a certain amount in and that that does get in is taxed so much to encourage spending on Chinese products produced at home or abroad. Food is a tough one to get people to spend money on a premium product, I mean when you buy it you eat it then it's gone. When you buy an audi, bmw, rolex at least you can show it off and people will say God their doing well. I don't mean to be pessimistic but they look after their own and you have to admire them for it.


  • #47
    Brown Podzol
    Registered Users Posts: 1,847 ✭✭✭Brown Podzol


    frogloch wrote: »
    Ha China doesn't buy milk they buy the farm, the coop, the ships or planes to bring it home. There's no such thing as the dole out there you either work or starve. So why don't you buy the companies that are supplying us with products we need and employ Chinese people instead. Control the product and keep money in Chinese circulation. They don't have the same short term view that people in the west have. Everything is for their country and their thinking is long term 100years, 200years, 500years from now. We threw the doors open to the vice president now president of china 2 years ago when he came to see our dairy farming. He wasn't on a tour to see our products he was on a recon mission to see which dairy system would best suit their own country. He was in the US before he came here looking at their dairy farming systems and they've gone with that model building big dairy units in china and buying heifers in Canada and Australia. People will say our products command a premium in their supermarkets but the government will only allow a certain amount in and that that does get in is taxed so much to encourage spending on Chinese products produced at home or abroad. Food is a tough one to get people to spend money on a premium product, I mean when you buy it you eat it then it's gone. When you buy an audi, bmw, rolex at least you can show it off and people will say God their doing well. I don't mean to be pessimistic but they look after their own and you have to admire them for it.

    Anyone read China's Silent Army. Here are ten facts from the book.

    http://www.everydayebook.com/2013/03/10-astonishing-facts-from-chinas-silent-army/


  • #48
    frogloch
    Closed Accounts Posts: 130 ✭✭frogloch


    HORAY got my milk back. I was saying in an earlier post that the milk supply reading on the docket had dropped 20% on the previous reading, the next reading was back up to where it was before. It was only from talking to my neighbour that we realised something was wrong. Then from talking to other suppliers they were wondering what was wrong and were blaming their cows. The milk manager said there was something wrong with the lorry that came to us that day. So just talk to each other you mightn't be the only one having the same problem. HORAY :D


  • #49
    freedominacup
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,920 ✭✭✭freedominacup


    frogloch wrote: »
    HORAY got my milk back. I was saying in an earlier post that the milk supply reading on the docket had dropped 20% on the previous reading, the next reading was back up to where it was before. It was only from talking to my neighbour that we realised something was wrong. Then from talking to other suppliers they were wondering what was wrong and were blaming their cows. The milk manager said there was something wrong with the lorry that came to us that day. So just talk to each other you mightn't be the only one having the same problem. HORAY :D

    Something similar happened around here a number of years ago with tbc. No dry ice in sample container on a hot summers day. Loads of tbc spikes. Same as your situation a couple of lads on the same route were talking a couple of others were contacted no penalties. Still a very sore point with milk manager.


  • #50
    frogloch
    Closed Accounts Posts: 130 ✭✭frogloch


    If there's anyone in the southeast region maybe the whole glanbia area as glanbia own the tankers but the drivers own the lorries or else they drive for someone else who own them, anyway if your milk dipped check to see it wasn't truck no.77. If it's collecting off you the whole time God help you. Anyway if you suspect something amiss talk to your neighbours and contact your milk manager.


  • #51
    Timmaay
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,394 ✭✭✭✭Timmaay


    Very same thing here freedom with the TBC, random 350 or so TBC fine, immediately onto the milk manager who said he'd look into it, talked to both neighbours a few days later and they were having problems also, we never got a straight answer, but had to have been the lorry. Got a nice 1700e fine next milk cheque, kicked up stink with the milk manager, who thankfully refunded it the next month, it would wreck your head thought.


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