Everton Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours 2024/25

nice_guy80 · 09-12-2018 12:20pm

Brian? wrote: »

thebaz wrote: »

and I compleltly disagree - he has been our most consistent midfielder the past few years , not saying much, for various reason McCarthy has not been that.

I like Gueye a lot. He's hard working and committed, but he's limited. He's essentially the Senegalese Lee Carsley. The fact that he's been our best midfielder in his time at Everton says more about our other midfielders than it does about him as a player.

Don't see him scoring goals in a derby though

thebaz · 09-12-2018 12:27pm

regarding Gueye, he has been playing for the most part in a rubbish midfield, given time with the more creative Gomes , think he will flourish . Gueye is not really a controlling midfielder , but does the dirty work needed for one to prosper.
Can't see McCarthy ever rerturning to be a top premier league midfielder at this stage.

Telecaster58 · 10-12-2018 11:18am

thebaz wrote: »

regarding Gueye, he has been playing for the most part in a rubbish midfield, given time with the more creative Gomes , think he will flourish . Gueye is not really a controlling midfielder , but does the dirty work needed for one to prosper.
Can't see McCarthy ever rerturning to be a top premier league midfielder at this stage.

Some of us were of the view that he never was one.

lawred2 · 10-12-2018 11:20am

Liamalone wrote: »

I clean forgot about McCarthy. Says it all, totally forgettable talent. Decent player but that's it, no value due to injuries though, get rid.

I saw him pop up on Twitter and thought "what club is he at now I wonder!?"

I then googled

nice_guy80 · 10-12-2018 3:55pm

lawred2 wrote: »

I saw him pop up on Twitter and thought "what club is he at now I wonder!?"

I then googled

Everton seem to stick by injured players, rather than offload them
maybe we're just gullible

lawred2 · 10-12-2018 8:50pm

Walcott starts

I'd like to see him deliver tonight... he gets into the right positions but doesn't seem to happen for him

Need to win tonight - would like a comfortable one as well

Brian? · 10-12-2018 9:12pm

I know it’s early in the game. But what does Bernard really do? He’s given the ball away every time he’s touched it.

thebaz · 10-12-2018 9:13pm

lawred2 wrote: »

Walcott starts

I'd like to see him deliver tonight... he gets into the right positions but doesn't seem to happen for him

Need to win tonight - would like a comfortable one as well

really is story of Walcott career, yeah need to give Watford a good hiding

lawred2 · 10-12-2018 9:19pm

How did that go unseen?

Oh well... We've had our share go the other way

lawred2 · 10-12-2018 9:20pm

Coleman

Edit: phew he's not dead

lawred2 · 10-12-2018 9:39pm

Frustrating performance

Too many of them guilty of taking too much out of the ball.. few too many touches

And the ref is a bit of a pillock

nice_guy80 · 10-12-2018 9:42pm

Gueye is brutal on the ball

Give McCarthy a run

Liamalone · 10-12-2018 9:45pm

nice_guy80 wrote: »

Gueye is brutal on the ball

Give McCarthy a run

If only McCarthy could run!

lawred2 · 10-12-2018 9:48pm

What's the ref's problem with Richarlison?

E: and then he misses a clear foul by Mina

lawred2 · 10-12-2018 10:15pm

This is an awful performance

Watford the more likely

dubrov · 10-12-2018 10:17pm

Real headless chicken stuff.
It'll be 1-1 shortly

lawred2 · 10-12-2018 10:19pm

Deulefeu to score

dubrov · 10-12-2018 10:21pm

We were due

lawred2 · 10-12-2018 10:22pm

Vomit

Digne and Bernard made a right mess of that cross field ball..

We deserve to go on and lose this really

lawred2 · 10-12-2018 10:25pm

No urgency.. all out of shape... Reaction after that goal was unprofessional in the extreme

Can't say that it wasn't coming

dubrov · 10-12-2018 10:25pm

A gift from the Gods.
Can't say we deserve it

lawred2 · 10-12-2018 10:27pm

Yeah that's about right

Gavlor · 10-12-2018 10:31pm

Brutal. So bloody predictable I have no idea why he insists on playing that formation every single game

lawred2 · 10-12-2018 10:36pm

No urgency

Everything is one paced

Even our throw ins take an eternity

All too predictable

rockatansky · 10-12-2018 10:53pm

Pathetic.

lawred2 · 10-12-2018 10:54pm

It'll be a long while before I sit down to watch another football match

Garbage

rockatansky · 10-12-2018 10:55pm

Sweet!

lawred2 · 10-12-2018 10:56pm

Well that's a lovely free kick but that was a seriously disappointing performance.

Lumbo · 10-12-2018 11:01pm

We got a lot of luck there. I think we need to change something. It’s all a bit predictable.

dubrov · 10-12-2018 11:06pm

At least we got a point but that was a shocker of a performance.
Watford weren't great themselves apart from up front.

Any time we managed more than 3 passes (which was rare), we created something.

I'd be thinking of taking Sigs off penalty duty as well.

nice_guy80 · 11-12-2018 12:12am

Seamus is very poor

Brian? · 11-12-2018 11:53am

nice_guy80 wrote: »

Seamus is very poor

He wasn’t great. I wonder if he should be rested.

eh i dunno · 11-12-2018 11:56am

Brian? wrote: »

He wasn’t great. I wonder if he should be rested.

Unfortunately injury has destroyed him. At 30 now he'll never be the same player and this could be his last season as first choice. Leg break like that gets in your head and can be hard to forget about it.

thebaz · 11-12-2018 12:22pm

eh i dunno wrote: »

Unfortunately injury has destroyed him. At 30 now he'll never be the same player and this could be his last season as first choice. Leg break like that gets in your head and can be hard to forget about it.

I wondered would he come back the same player - hopefully he improves - not great last , but considering where we were 12 months ago , and the dour Sam show, its ok.

lawred2 · 11-12-2018 12:31pm

he wasn't that bad last night

not helped by either Walcott or Lookman

Lumbo · 11-12-2018 12:37pm

I think he still has a lot to offer and Jonjoe Kenny doesnt appear to be up to the task. You can’t blame him for the first last night and the second was a meltdown from the whole defense. Doucouré got the run on him, there wasn’t much he could do about that. It’s going forward thats his strength and he needs to improve but with no target to aim at it he has a thankless task.

For me, a striker is the priority and the talk is that we won’t buy one in January. Tosun just isn’t good enough.

dubrov · 11-12-2018 12:44pm

A bit harsh on Coleman. He has been fairly decent since his comeback.
It wasn't his best game last night but the whole team was poor

lawred2 · 11-12-2018 12:51pm

Lumbo wrote: »

I think he still has a lot to offer and Jonjoe Kenny doesnt appear to be up to the task. You can’t blame him for the first last night and the second was a meltdown from the whole defense. Doucouré got the run on him, there wasn’t much he could do about that. It’s going forward thats his strength and he needs to improve but with no target to aim at it he has a thankless task.

For me, a striker is the priority and the talk is that we won’t buy one in January. Tosun just isn’t good enough.

Digne and Bernard made a holy bollocks of their first goal. Two of them comfortably in position to deal with the cross field ball... Bernard should have called for it and let Digne track the runner.

Johnmb · 11-12-2018 4:36pm

Lumbo wrote: »

For me, a striker is the priority and the talk is that we won’t buy one in January. Tosun just isn’t good enough.

Definitely. But I don't think we'll get one in January. Having said that, given what Brands pulled off last summer, I'd have very high hopes that he'll bring in someone great next summer who will be a huge success.

Brian? · 11-12-2018 6:39pm

lawred2 wrote: »

Digne and Bernard made a holy bollocks of their first goal. Two of them comfortably in position to deal with the cross field ball... Bernard should have called for it and let Digne track the runner.

IMO Bernard shouldn't start next week. I'd either play Lookman on the left or bring in Tosun up front and drop Richarlison to the left.

Richarlison can't hold the ball up anyway. He's a lethal finisher but loses it too often

nice_guy80 · 11-12-2018 10:40pm

Bernard falls over a lot

wally79 · 11-12-2018 11:38pm

Brian? wrote: »

IMO Bernard shouldn't start next week. I'd either play Lookman on the left or bring in Tosun up front and drop Richarlison to the left.

Richarlison can't hold the ball up anyway. He's a lethal finisher but loses it too often

If we can get a striker it’s a double win as Richarlison can get back to the wing

lawred2 · 15-12-2018 2:52pm

getting a predictable enough run around

2 points from 12

all of a sudden things not looking so smart

TheCitizen · 15-12-2018 3:25pm

lawred2 wrote: »

getting a predictable enough run around

2 points from 12

all of a sudden things not looking so smart

Coleman came off after 57 minutes did he pick up an injury?

thebaz · 15-12-2018 4:51pm

lawred2 wrote: »

2 points from 12

all of a sudden things not looking so smart

really will be the story of this season , we are a way of the big boys , but progress after last season rubbish and I will be happy , and a new stadium becoming a reality (still think we will need Usmanov on board for this to happen , sick of these never-ending fan consultations (20 years of fan input , just build it !!!)

nice_guy80 · 15-12-2018 8:39pm

TheCitizen wrote: »

lawred2 wrote: »

getting a predictable enough run around

2 points from 12

all of a sudden things not looking so smart

Coleman came off after 57 minutes did he pick up an injury?

He was just poor, again
Cannot cross a ball, and struggles to cover the space along the wing

eh i dunno · 15-12-2018 8:42pm

Think Mina was very poor today. Don't think he'll be suited to the premier league all. Created plenty of chances today but didn't take them. Lookman needs to start a game too

Joshua J · 15-12-2018 9:17pm

This season was always a gimme for Silva as far as I was concerned although a promising start had us hoping until we Everton'd it again. We'll still finish top 10 handily but it won't be pretty imo.

Hercule Poirot · 15-12-2018 10:34pm

eh i dunno wrote: »

Think Mina was very poor today. Don't think he'll be suited to the premier league all. Created plenty of chances today but didn't take them. Lookman needs to start a game too

He screwed up badly for the first goal and never recovered - I still think he has a lot to offer though, I wouldn't write him off just yet

Lumbo · 15-12-2018 10:47pm

Hercule Poirot wrote: »

He screwed up badly for the first goal and never recovered - I still think he has a lot to offer though, I wouldn't write him off just yet

He was caught out against Watford as well. He’s marking space and ignoring the attacker. The room he aforded Sterling was criminal. Needs sorting out.

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