Cold snap Jan 10th onwards: Wintry Showers, Snow Accumulations for some

Northern Chaser · 10-01-2015 2:40pm

Every shower from 8am unitl even 20mins ago in Maghera has been snowing no sign of sleet. 74m asl

Iancar29 · 10-01-2015 2:43pm

Latest radar and DPs

Normal Temps still being the problem with average around 4C . No snow settling below 300m with that.

Trogdor · 10-01-2015 2:52pm

nacho libre wrote: »

not all on high ground either, but su campu has covered that base by saying snow could occur at lower levels in the heaviest of showers

My comment was in reference to Met Eireann's forecast, which I thought was a bit suprising with no mention of snow at all. Even if it will only be present in heavier showers I think it's still worth mentioning.

FWVT · 10-01-2015 2:54pm

Trogdor wrote: »

My comment was in reference to Met Eireann's forecast, which I thought was a bit suprising with no mention of snow at all. Even if it will only be present in heavier showers I think it's still worth mentioning.

Maybe with all the extra tools and expertise at their disposal they too just don't think that it will happen?

Their forecast for Ulster:

Ulster
10 January 2015- updated at 13:00
Today

Cold and windy with some good bright spells but scattered showers too -some with sleet and snow especially on higher ground. Temperatures will range 4 to 7 degrees, in a strong to gale force and gusty westerly wind.

Tonight

Cold and windy tonight with clear spells and scattered wintry showers. Frost will form in sheltered places and lowest temperatures of 0 to 2 degrees in a fresh to strong and gusty westerly wind.

Iancar29 · 10-01-2015 2:57pm

Check out the webcams around the Cairngorms National Park...
https://trafficscotland.org/map/index.aspx?type=26

Trogdor · 10-01-2015 3:02pm

FWVT wrote: »

Maybe with all the extra tools and expertise at their disposal they too just don't think that it will happen?

But there has already been snow today and away from higher ground as well, just thought the forecast was a tad conservative.

irish1967 wrote: »

Wet snow showers here in Donegal Town at 30asl and quarter mile from coast.

RuthieRose wrote: »

SNOWING!!!! Cavan town

whomitconcerns wrote: »

Almost blind blizzard here just south of Newry an hour ago. Blue sky again now

kingshankly wrote: »

South armagh blizzard snow but not lying

AnotherYear wrote: »

Quick heavy snow shower just over in Donegal. Really big gusts accompanying the shower and visibility reduced

eastmayo wrote: »

Snowing heavy but ain't sticking

redsteveireland wrote: »

Wet snow in Galway, just annoying really.

Lumi wrote: »

Snowing again in Galway city - not sticking obviously but nice to see all the same

nacho libre · 10-01-2015 3:02pm

FWVT wrote: »

Maybe with all the extra tools and expertise at their disposal they too just don't think that it will happen?

Their forecast for Ulster:

but it has already happened. there has been snow at lower levels outside of Ulster.

however they do mention snow in their outlook:
"the outlook is for cold and often breezy weather; passing wintry showers of sleet and snow, mainly across Atlantic counties. Wet and windy countrywide on Wednesday, with rain possibly turning to snow for a time. Frosty icy conditions, especially later in the week. "

Harps · 10-01-2015 3:03pm

The very mention of the word snow gets people into a panic so with nothing more than a few 5 minute sleety snow showers forecast they obviously didn't think it was worth mentioning. Nothing to lose sleep over

fitefuaite · 10-01-2015 3:03pm

Sleety shower in laois!

nacho libre · 10-01-2015 3:08pm

Iancar29 wrote: »

Check out the webcams around the Cairngorms National Park...
https://trafficscotland.org/map/index.aspx?type=26

good link. i'm tempted to go up there some weekend for my snow fix. as we won't see snow in London anytime soon.

FWVT · 10-01-2015 3:15pm

nacho libre wrote: »

but it has already happened. there has been snow at lower levels outside of Ulster.

however they do mention snow in their outlook:
"the outlook is for cold and often breezy weather; passing wintry showers of sleet and snow, mainly across Atlantic counties. Wet and windy countrywide on Wednesday, with rain possibly turning to snow for a time. Frosty icy conditions, especially later in the week. "

Well apart from Knock, Glennane and Lough Fea - all above 150 m - no official stations or any of the regional airports have reported snow, including the 2 pm reports now in.

Belfast City Airport light rain shower, despite a dewpoint of zero. It's just the wrong side of marginal.

snowinwinter · 10-01-2015 3:15pm

Ok I don't normally post here but I do read and I thought i'd reply.

Ok um Iancar I don't really agree with you, you are quite wrong with the current sitation. I live in North-West Northern Ireland and it has been snowing on and off all morning.

Currently its 3c with a dew point of -2c. The last shower was 10 minutes ago and it was graupel/dry snow. The shower dropped temp to under 2c and it started to stick..

snowinwinter · 10-01-2015 3:15pm

FWVT wrote: »

Well apart from Knock, Glennane and Lough Fea - all above 150 m - no official stations or any of the regional airports have reported snow, including the 2 pm reports now in.

Belfast City light rain shower, despite a dewpoint of zero. It's just the wrong side of marginal.

Um I live at an elevation of approximately 50m and it has been snowing all day! You are definitely wrong!

snowinwinter · 10-01-2015 3:16pm

Northern Chaser wrote: »

Here in sout derry we have had about 5 or 6 snow showers. Everything is falling as snow. It's not the snow thats the problem more the lack of it.

Exactly the same here, just snowed 10 minutes ago. Another shower is due soon looking to my west.

I agree with you though, its been sunny most of the day and quite windy too so the showers don't last long.

FWVT · 10-01-2015 3:20pm

snowinwinter wrote: »

Um I live at an elevation of approximately 50m and it has been snowing all day! You are definitely wrong!

Again, for the 3rd time, read what I wrote about low levels in Ulster earlier. Congratulations that you live exactly where you live, I am sure you will see a lot more too. However, on the whole, it will be difficult for the vast majority of areas at sea level to see snow. Sleet yes, but not snow.

snowinwinter · 10-01-2015 3:21pm

FWVT wrote: »

Again, for the 3rd time, read what I wrote about low levels in Ulster earlier. Congratulations that you live exactly where you live, I am sure you will see a lot more too. However, on the whole, it will be difficult for the vast majority of areas at sea level to see snow. Sleet yes, but not snow.

Well I wasn't talking about you, I was talking about Iancar who said it was very low chance of snow when its actually been snowing pretty heavily today.

The dew points are below freezing inland, its right at the coast where it is raining.

My iPhone charger is broken but if it was working I would take a video and show you the snow, its actually really quite dry. Oh and by the way the snow line is 200m.

Iancar29 · 10-01-2015 3:22pm

snowinwinter wrote: »

Ok I don't normally post here but I do read and I thought i'd reply.

Ok um Iancar I don't really agree with you, you are quite wrong with the current sitation. I live in North-West Northern Ireland and it has been snowing on and off all morning.

Currently its 3c with a dew point of -2c. The last shower was 10 minutes ago and it was graupel/dry snow. The shower dropped temp to under 2c and it started to stick..

Yes , your temps are lower therefore chances are better for you but the cold air is moving away now for the next 24hrs again so chances decreasing for low levels. Im glad i didnt head on up from Dublin to there today! Maybe Monday night though if things still look goood :cool:

legomaniac · 10-01-2015 3:24pm

munsterlegend wrote: »

legomaniac never usually engages in discussing his comments. he come in with his soliloquy and wanders off again.

A very unfair comment. I am in and out of the house and am not stuck in front of a screen all day. The shower was moderate, lasted 10 minutes and was of rain. That's the way it was. Or would you prefer of I lied and said it was a raging blizzard just to stop you feeling disappointed? I have a good mind to report you to the mods for bullying....

snowinwinter · 10-01-2015 3:25pm

Iancar29 wrote: »

Yes , your temps are lower therefore chances are better for you but the cold air is moving away now for the next 24hrs again so chances decreasing for low levels. Im glad i didnt head on up from Dublin to there today! Maybe Monday night though if things still look goood :cool:

Um actually the bbc newsline forecast showed the showers lasting as snow to about 5am so I don't think the chances will decrease yet. There is indeed lying snow at 200m and above but you are right you'd see nothing because theres only a dusting, the showers aren't as frequent and the wind is too fast!

I'm not sure what weather is down there but its quite cold up here. IDC, whatever i'm down for 1c on Tuesday with heavy snow all day.

FWVT · 10-01-2015 3:27pm

snowinwinter wrote: »

Well I wasn't talking about you, I was talking about Iancar who said it was very low chance of snow when its actually been snowing pretty heavily today.

The dew points are below freezing inland, its right at the coast where it is raining.

My iPhone charger is broken but if it was working I would take a video and show you the snow, its actually really quite dry. Oh and by the way the snow line is 200m.

I was replying to your post to me in which you said:

Um I live at an elevation of approximately 50m and it has been snowing all day! You are definitely wrong!

And I'm just going by what I see in official reports up to 2 pm. Only stations above 150 m have snow.

snowinwinter · 10-01-2015 3:29pm

Well thats fair enough, i'm quite surprised by those readings because its snowing to sea level here and very dry snow at that.

Maybe in the light showers its rain.

FWVT · 10-01-2015 3:31pm

snowinwinter wrote: »

Well thats fair enough, i'm quite surprised by those readings because its snowing to sea level here and very dry snow at that.

I thought you said 50 m? :pac::D

Maybe in the light showers its rain.

Which is what I've been saying all along!

snowinwinter · 10-01-2015 3:32pm

um yea thats my elevation but its snowing at sea level here. If only I could get my iPhone charger to work.

Northern Chaser · 10-01-2015 3:32pm

I think there is still a chance yet....if the showers pick up and when the temps drop we could get something.

snowinwinter · 10-01-2015 3:33pm

Northern Chaser wrote: »

I think there is still a chance yet....if the showers pick up and when the temps drop we could get something.

where about do you live? It snowed here not long ago and it was quite heavy and started to stick on the grass and tops of cars but then melted as soon as it stopped, I think we could get a light dusting tonight for sure if this goes on.

Northern Chaser · 10-01-2015 3:37pm

I'm in Maghera. The warm air isn't to arrive late into the morning so there is still plenty of time. I'm not expecting anything big but even a few cm would be possible this evening

barney 20v · 10-01-2015 3:40pm

What's the story up north??? Any snow accumulations to report???

Lumi · 10-01-2015 4:02pm

Mod note

munsterlegend wrote: »

legomaniac never usually engages in discussing his comments. he come in with his soliloquy and wanders off again.

Munsterlegend - don't personalise things - play the ball not the man as per the charter

legomaniac wrote: »

A very unfair comment. I have a good mind to report you to the mods for bullying....

Legomaniac - if you have an issue with a post then ignore, report and let the mods deal with it. Do not react on thread please

Thanks

DOCARCH · 10-01-2015 4:09pm

Looks like something a lot more organised approaching the NW/NI/Scotland now. http://www.sat24.com/en/eu

AnotherYear · 10-01-2015 4:16pm

Update from met office for NI this evening
Frequent blustery sleet and snow showers continuing with further accumulations mainly on higher ground. Staying windy although gales easing along the north coast. Icy patches developing on untreated surfaces, Minimum Temperature 0C.

marno21 · 10-01-2015 4:20pm

Had 20 minutes of light snow earlier here in north Cork, now hailtstone. 198m ASL

Northern Chaser · 10-01-2015 4:33pm

I see that area of organised clouds moving into NI on sat24. Very interesting and one to watch as it becomes visible on the radar

ninebeanrows · 10-01-2015 4:33pm

A lot of the stations are now automatic which in these situations find it difficult to correctly determine precip type.

Northern Chaser · 10-01-2015 4:37pm

I take those weather stations reports on rain/snow with a pinch of salt. Even the net weather chart has shown rain over here but its been full snow and only 100 asl too

AnotherYear · 10-01-2015 4:40pm

Northern Chaser wrote: »

I those weather stations reports on rain/snow with a pinch of salt. Even the net weather chart has shown rain over here but its been full snow and only 100 asl too

Yes netweather have said that "green" doesn't mean sleet as most people would think. It actually means it's rather raining or snowing so not great ha. Wunderground can sometimes give a better indication I've noticed.

10-01-2015 4:42pm

Lots of Snow and greyish White clouds in Roscommon at the moment, too wet to settle and temps have dropped to 0c

Oneiric 3 · 10-01-2015 4:48pm

Nothing but light rain showers in Galway. 40 m asl. Td 2c currently.

FWVT · 10-01-2015 4:48pm

Weathercheck wrote: »

A lot of the stations are now automatic which in these situations find it difficult to correctly determine precip type.

They are well able to distinguish between rain and snow, but in cases of uncertainty they report "Unidentified Precipitation", or in met.ie speak "Showery Precipitation".

Both Belfast airports are reporting rain with similar dewpoints, and these are manual observations.

I's say if the autos were now reporting snow there would be no questioning them! ;-)

Baggy Trousers · 10-01-2015 5:01pm

Oneiric 3 wrote: »

Nothing but light rain showers in Galway. 40 m asl. Td 2c currently.

Yes I thought it had got warmer in the past couple of hours.

Iancar29 · 10-01-2015 5:01pm

DPs rising above freezing in the north as i said earlier warm air filtering back in now. T500s back above -30 bringing down lapse rates.

EDIT : Sferics detected just south of Derry , hopefully someone has an official thundersnow report!

snowinwinter · 10-01-2015 5:07pm

I just drove to 200m and snow is lying. +0c

Currently snowing here but stopping, temp at my house is 1.0c.

Oneiric 3 · 10-01-2015 5:08pm

In my own experience of these type of set ups, snow is more likely fall at lower-levels (below 70m asl) during the night time hours. For what it's worth, the raw GFS 06z output has a better chance of snow showers later Monday and into Tuesday.

snowinwinter · 10-01-2015 5:08pm

barney 20v wrote: »

What's the story up north??? Any snow accumulations to report???

Yes a dusting at 200m. +0c.

snowinwinter · 10-01-2015 5:10pm

FWVT wrote: »

They are well able to distinguish between rain and snow, but in cases of uncertainty they report "Unidentified Precipitation", or in met.ie speak "Showery Precipitation".

Both Belfast airports are reporting rain with similar dewpoints, and these are manual observations.

I's say if the autos were now reporting snow there would be no questioning them! ;-)

Well it has rain over the high hills here so its not very accurate.

Iancar29 wrote: »

DPs rising above freezing in the north as i said earlier warm air filtering back in now. T500s back above -30 bringing down lapse rates.

EDIT : Sferics detected just south of Derry , hopefully someone has an official thundersnow report!

ERm? no they are not, the temp has dropped to 1.0c here. If you look on xcweather even Donegal airport is freezing dew point.

Northern Chaser wrote: »

I'm in Maghera. The warm air isn't to arrive late into the morning so there is still plenty of time. I'm not expecting anything big but even a few cm would be possible this evening

Well the met office have a warning I think. I really think if the temps drop tonight and the showers keep coming we could get a covering because the temp is close to freezing.

FWVT · 10-01-2015 5:24pm

More rain at Belfast Aldergrove (81 m), temp 3.4, d.p. -1.2 °C. That trained observer there really needs to get retrained...

snowinwinter · 10-01-2015 5:26pm

FWVT I promise you it is really snowing here. I am not sure what Iancar is talking about mild air for, I have just looked at the Euro 4 and at 6am the 850pha temps are -6c and the dam is 526.

eastmayo · 10-01-2015 5:27pm

First shower of sleet now,was snow showers upto an hour ago,near knock airport

ronnie3585 · 10-01-2015 5:30pm

Intermittent sleet and snow in Galway all day. Bitingly cold too.

Here's a nice looking CB that was over the bay in the last hour;

FWVT · 10-01-2015 5:32pm

Oneiric 3 wrote: »

In my own experience of these type of set ups, snow is more likely fall at lower-levels (below 70m asl) during the night time hours. For what it's worth, the raw GFS 06z output has a better chance of snow showers later Monday and into Tuesday.

Agreed. I expect to see one or two of those rain reports turn more wintry in a few hours before the activity dies away.

snowinwinter · 10-01-2015 5:33pm

Really watching that massive cloud off donegal? Is that all rain or it just clouds?

Cold snap Jan 10th onwards: Wintry Showers, Snow Accumulations for some

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