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Storm Jorge : February 29th

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,862 ✭✭✭un5byh7sqpd2x0


    22 pages of posts.

    met.ie


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,268 ✭✭✭✭uck51js9zml2yt


    I wonder what the waves will be like in Fenit and Banna tomorrow :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,221 ✭✭✭pad199207


    Danno wrote: »
    Darwin was probably the worst storm over the last 20yrs, however it wouldn't lace the shoes of the Christmas 1997 storm.

    Darwin was bad alright but ophelia is still the worst storm I have encountered in this country.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,230 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    Hence why I actually asked how quickly it was due to move across the country.

    Ah you're not the worst offender!

    However, you can understand the annoyance on here due to the sheer abundance of "will my flight/car journey/event/potted plant be okay at X time"! Plus alot of the time the people who answer these questions know very little or no more information than what's been said on thread already.

    It's also quite annoying when you can very very easily go onto the Met Éireann website, read the timings of the warnings, read their written and digital forecasts and read wind forecast maps yourself if you so wish. Even if you'd rather just stay on this website, MT offers a top class daily forecast, for free, on this forum.

    A storm that begins tomorrow morning will not still be blowing as strong on Monday evening, that's common sense.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,219 ✭✭✭Gaoth Laidir


    Some very cold cloud tops visible on satellite now will be getting into the southwest in a few hours, so watch out for thunderstorms there. It's signalled on the UKMO 06Z aviation chart but not on the Met Éireann one. Met Éireann have that occlusion just reaching the Mayo coast at 25 knots, with frequent rain/sleet/hail showers, isolated thunderstorms and snow showers. The low of 953 hPa is at about 56 N 13.5W (about 300 km NW of Belmullet).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,913 ✭✭✭Danno


    pad199207 wrote: »
    Darwin was bad alright but ophelia is still the worst storm I have encountered in this country.

    Nipper :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,219 ✭✭✭Gaoth Laidir


    Winds at 21.26 show the centre at 56N 19.5W, with 60-knot barbs (so in reality 65-70 real winds) around its southern flank.

    The latest analysis just in has it about a degree further east at midnight. Those cold cloudtops mentioned above correspond to that trough off the southwest coast.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,682 ✭✭✭Rougies


    Yep, in fact it wants to keep the bulk of them out to sea. Why is it different to the Dutch Hirlam? Does it crunch different data?


    HIRLAM is not a "model" per se, it's a European collaboration for high res weather models. Arome and Harmonie are part of the project. Countries can use the same model but tweak "settings" based on their needs that may or may not give a more accurate output.

    http://hirlam.org/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 420 ✭✭Little snowy old me


    The storm of February 1988 was particularly nasty. I think Bemullet had a gust of 170kmph


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,219 ✭✭✭Gaoth Laidir


    Forecast for 18Z shows the tightest gradient over the central band of the country, including Connacht to north/central Leinster. Interesting day ahead.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,554 ✭✭✭Sundew


    The storm of February 1988 was particularly nasty. I think Bemullet had a gust of 170kmph

    I recall being sent home from national school early because of some big storm during the late 80,s. Wonder was it this one. I remember it was pretty scary as the single panes of glass on our windows were visibly moving. We were scared the window was going to come in. Nice strong triple glazed ones now

    Wind is starting to rise now here in Sth Galway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,219 ✭✭✭Gaoth Laidir


    Follow the Finnis Buoy, which is located just east of the Aran Islands. Should be right in the thick of it tomorrow. It reports winds and seas every few minutes.

    https://twitter.com/FinnisBuoy?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor


  • Registered Users Posts: 129 ✭✭murfo


    Oneiric 3 wrote: »
    Don Henley was another great weather observer, as he alluded to in his 80's classic:

    "After the buoys of summer have gone".

    Samantha Fox was the real anorak ;)

    Oh yes, it was Sabrina wasn't it. Bit of a boob on my part, thanks easypazz


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,346 ✭✭✭easypazz


    Buoys, buoys, buoys, everybody, summertime love.

    Sabrina, nails it


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,525 ✭✭✭SeaBreezes


    The East end bouys and West end girls

    Pet shop buoys ...

    Weather and Animal enthusiasts ��


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,592 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    The buoy left standing (K4) at 55.4N 12.5W is down to 968 mbs, the low is now around 55N 17W and moving due east towards that buoy, could be right over it by about 10-11z. Should survive as the wind field within that sector will only get strong a while after the low has passed.

    Satellite imagery shows clear development of the strong WSW winds about to reach land. Slow but steady increase in wind speed can be expected -- Belmullet may peak and back down, Newport still looks on the edge as the main thrust will be towards Galway and Clare.

    In the warned areas, would say that red alert conditions most likely to be in the time frame 0900-1500h with that being a bit wider than the most likely span 1000-1400h.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,138 ✭✭✭endainoz


    Well I'm all set for a big windy day in North Clare tomorrow, will be interesting to see if this this red gets extended/expanded. I'd say I'll still have to make my way to work tomorrow evening though, we shall see.


  • Posts: 31,118 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    SeaBreezes wrote: »
    The East end bouys and West end girls

    Pet shop buoys ...

    Weather and Animal enthusiasts ��
    I prefer the "buoys are back in town!" :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,633 ✭✭✭✭Widdershins


    In my current area of mid Clare the only storm worthy of the name, was Darwin (in my living memory. I know there were significant storms prior to Darwin, too)

    Ophelia was barely a breeze. We did get thick snow in her wake.

    None of the named storms since then have even been noticeable.

    Darwin was genuinely shocking around here. Large trees felled one after another and another like domino, all along the road I was mad enough to drive on, with thick branches flying past the windscreen. When I opened the car door it was amazing it wasn't torn from the hinges. And yet Darwin was barely registered by many in other locations!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    I prefer the "buoys are back in town!" :D

    The Americans cannot sing that song with the double meaning as they say " boo-is"


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    Morning!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,592 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    Fisterra, northwest Spain, gusted to 145 km/hr at 0200h when the cold front passed. Otherwise top gusts 80-100 km/hr range in northern Spain generally. Some gusts in Brittany to 110 km/hr.

    The 03z reading from the K3 buoy was 965.8 mb, wind 31 knots SSW.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,554 ✭✭✭Sundew


    Graces7 wrote: »
    Morning!

    And not a nice one either!

    Just been woken up by wind in Sth Gal and it's not even 5 a.m
    Take care Grace.....I wouldn't fancy being on an island today.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,540 ✭✭✭RocketRaccoon


    A serious amount of snow falling in clare right now


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 244 ✭✭Thepillowman


    Woke up about twenty minutes ago bit of a breeze, went outside as wind picked up strangest sound off of Lough Derg I have ever heard. Wind has really picked up in last 10mins and now snowing. Think it's going to be a rough day in East Clare.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,625 ✭✭✭Millionaire only not


    Woke up about twenty minutes ago bit of a breeze, went outside as wind picked up strangest sound off of Lough Derg I have ever heard. Wind has really picked up in last 10mins and now snowing. Think it's going to be a rough day in East Clare.

    Try west clare , parts of us might end up over ye today ! I hope they get ths one wrong in the strength of it!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    Sundew wrote: »
    And not a nice one either!

    Just been woken up by wind in Sth Gal and it's not even 5 a.m
    Take care Grace.....I wouldn't fancy being on an island today.

    Thank you...

    Well, actually being on an island is no different from being anywhere else in this weather... Cold and a gale blowing and rain deluging. Unless you get the " But you can't get off if anything happens! " syndrome...

    It is what it is. "Time and the hour run through the roughest day.."

    Sorted here. Routine! Very tired so will snooze.

    Back later maybe,

    Stay safe out there...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 244 ✭✭Thepillowman


    Try west clare , parts of us might end up over ye today ! I hope they get ths one wrong in the strength of it!

    Ye are pretty exposed over there alright, I hope they are wrong too, can see a lot of trees coming down if they are right, they have gotten a good rattling for the last month. The ground is either saturated or submerged.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,614 ✭✭✭20silkcut


    In my current area of mid Clare the only storm worthy of the name, was Darwin (in my living memory. I know there were significant storms prior to Darwin, too)

    Ophelia was barely a breeze. We did get thick snow in her wake.

    None of the named storms since then have even been noticeable.

    Darwin was genuinely shocking around here. Large trees felled one after another and another like domino, all along the road I was mad enough to drive on, with thick branches flying past the windscreen. When I opened the car door it was amazing it wasn't torn from the hinges. And yet Darwin was barely registered by many in other locations!

    The curious feature of storm Darwin was it caused an emergency to be declared in county Kilkenny very much inland. While no such emergency was declared in other more coastal counties. It seemed to be at its fiercest through Clare , Limerick, Tipp and Kilkenny. Maybe the Wicklow mountains dissipated it a bit after that. Where I live in North Tipperary it was easily the fiercest storm I remember worse than Christmas 97. In terms of structural damage and the amount of tress it knocked I never saw a storm like it.
    Everyday I’m reminded of the damage of that storm as some farmers around me still have roofless sheds on their farms since that day and some trees still remain toppled awaiting the chainsaw. The price of timber for for the fire collapsed that year. It moved fast that storm thank god.
    If it had to maintain what it was doing for a few hours longer than it did I dread to think the results.
    As far as I remember it peaked in the afternoon around 3 pm in my location and was gone by about 4:30.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 411 ✭✭RoisinD


    No snow here - NW Clare coast. Just a shower of hail. Winds not too bad yet. Increased a little with shower but settled back again.


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  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,161 Mod ✭✭✭✭DOCARCH


    Mod Note: We will not be doing a separate 'technical' and 'chat' thread for this event due to too much bickering the last time we split threads!

    So....advance note....keep on topic and do not post nonsense! Off topic and nonsense posts will be removed.


  • Registered Users Posts: 269 ✭✭Mount Vesuvius


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    Batten down the hatches trampolines.

    Also I think we can definitely expect trees, branches to come down from this. Power lines being brought down perhaps. Have your powerbanks fully charged. Electricity most likely to be out for at least 24 hours in the worst hit parts. Most of all , stay safe.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,592 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    Woke up about twenty minutes ago bit of a breeze, went outside as wind picked up strangest sound off of Lough Derg I have ever heard. Wind has really picked up in last 10mins and now snowing. Think it's going to be a rough day in East Clare.

    Sticking or melting? And what's your approx elevation above sea level?


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,186 ✭✭✭munsterlegend


    [quote="Mount Vesuvius;112680311

    Batten down the hatches trampolines.[/quote]

    Is it a bit further South based on that? Ireland hard to make out!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 244 ✭✭Thepillowman


    Sticking or melting? And what's your approx elevation above sea level?

    It's melting stopped for a while started again a few minutes ago. Approximately 150ft above sea level.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,742 ✭✭✭4Ad


    Woke up about twenty minutes ago bit of a breeze, went outside as wind picked up strangest sound off of Lough Derg I have ever heard. Wind has really picked up in last 10mins and now snowing. Think it's going to be a rough day in East Clare.

    Also in East Clare, about 20 miles west of you, it's very quiet...


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,186 ✭✭✭munsterlegend


    20silkcut wrote: »
    The curious feature of storm Darwin was it caused an emergency to be declared in county Kilkenny very much inland. While no such emergency was declared in other more coastal counties. It seemed to be at its fiercest through Clare , Limerick, Tipp and Kilkenny. Maybe the Wicklow mountains dissipated it a bit after that. Where I live in North Tipperary it was easily the fiercest storm I remember worse than Christmas 97. In terms of structural damage and the amount of tress it knocked I never saw a storm like it.
    Everyday I’m reminded of the damage of that storm as some farmers around me still have roofless sheds on their farms since that day and some trees still remain toppled awaiting the chainsaw. The price of timber for for the fire collapsed that year. It moved fast that storm thank god.
    If it had to maintain what it was doing for a few hours longer than it did I dread to think the results.
    As far as I remember it peaked in the afternoon around 3 pm in my location and was gone by about 4:30.

    It was pretty bad in Cork too. A lot of trees felled and damage done. The worst I remember since the Christmas Eve storm in the late 90’s.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,592 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    Low centre has been making steady progress past three hours due east along 55N, pressure at K4 now 958 mbs and wind has increased to 39 knots (in a zone that was not expected to see the maximum winds).

    The satellite imagery tell a story of gathering storm force winds aimed right at Galway and south half of Mayo. Although there will likely be a sharp cut-off just because Mayo is orange rather than red, if you live in Westport or Louisburgh assume you're in for red alert conditions. Newport and Keel may be more on the edge of that. Belmullet could see some stronger variations including some times where it backs off to yellow.

    Clare still right in line also. Would say from all evidence the low is 55N 14W and 950 mbs give or take 3 mbs. Pressure is nowhere near finished falling at 12.5W where the buoy is located, rate of fall has increased both of the past two hours.

    This will probably hit harder inland than some are expecting, in particular across south Galway into Roscommon and perhaps also north Limerick. The combination of very strong wind, wintry showers, and cold temperatures make this a different animal than most winter storms we have discussed, not only stronger perhaps but also different in the spectrum of hazards to anyone out there today. I would err on the side of caution about possible road conditions by later this morning into the afternoon. It will be quite variable to say the least and could be very bad at times with this combination of hazards.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,994 ✭✭✭c.p.w.g.w


    Are met eireann due to release an updated review of the warnings?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 155 ✭✭watlantic


    The storm of February 1988 was particularly nasty. I think Bemullet had a gust of 170kmph
    I remember that one well. Belmullet recorded 96 Knots (= 177,7 Km/h). Lived in SW Mayo then (Killadoon area). Every third roof came off or was severely damaged. We had no ESB for 6 weeks and no phone for 5 months after that, as nearly all the poles blew down.
    It was a particularly stormy winter and for 10 weeks there was gale warnings non-stop. The lowest was gale 8, apart from the odd lull when a low centre passed over the west, but force 10 regularly during those weeks. The coastline was changed for good.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,922 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Deedsie wrote: »
    Snowing pretty solid in the Midwest since I got up around 6.

    Location: Just South of Nenagh, Northwest Tipperary

    Yes and the Midlands is at risk of blizzard like conditions for a time this afternoon with a longer period of snow extending eastward. Should turn back to rain for most through the evening.

    But be aware of it anyway and pop in to the snow thread too with reports where tea and cocoa await :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,592 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    Re Feb 1988 storm, I had a look through archived weather maps and it was probably on the 9th. Looks stronger than today's storm by 10-20 per cent in terms of gradient winds, also the gradient was a bit more north of due west, the low tracked e.s.e. to a similar 18z position as today's predicted outcome, and it was around 945 mbs at lowest.


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,161 Mod ✭✭✭✭DOCARCH


    Max gust in 0700 reports is 93 km/h at Mace Head.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 312 ✭✭73bc61lyohr0mu


    Absolute blizzard conditions in Limerick city


  • Registered Users Posts: 430 ✭✭Donegal Ken


    Snow in Sligo Town this morning

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,221 ✭✭✭pad199207


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  • Registered Users Posts: 592 ✭✭✭rickis tache


    Strangely quiet here Galway Clare border. Usually by now plenty of cars pass house but maybe only 20 percent of usual traffic.
    Skies clearing ready for our amigo Jorge to arrive.


  • Registered Users Posts: 356 ✭✭Strangegravy


    I know this is more about the storm in this thread, but the snow in Limerick, Castletroy at the moment is insane! ðŸ˜


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    DOCARCH wrote: »
    Mod Note: We will not be doing a separate 'technical' and 'chat' thread for this event due to too much bickering the last time we split threads!

    So....advance note....keep on topic and do not post nonsense! Off topic and nonsense posts will be removed.

    My hero!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    Just reread the met ie warnings.

    I do not remember the words "violent storm force" being there earlier - or ever... Loop Head to Belmullet.

    All in readiness here. Cats in. Cannot get to where I think the little sick one is, He never emerges in storms anyways. Bless him.

    The door is on the dog lead safety handle. Only open for cats in and out

    Everyone out here will be hunkered down. Apart from them checking the boats, Which will have extra moorings.

    Soon chicken soup will be a -simmering and a turf fire glowing .. plenty for everyone ;)

    Getting very loud out there. that screaming tone entering the wind song.

    Stay safe everyone and enjoy if you are a storm enthusiast rather than a forced participant...


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