Organised Raid by up to 100 Youths in Cork City Centr

Outkast_IRE · 08-11-2019 10:01pm #1

Up to 100 youths took part in an organised Raid on a city centre store in cork city this evening .

It was brought up in the dail in the past week that just 3% of newly recruited gardai were sent to Cork. There is a huge shortage of gardai in Cork and this is the type of activity they simply cannot respond to in numbers .

There was a night earlier this year when the entire city had just 2 gardai on patrol . Fine Gael are on the road to a hiding down here in the next election .

https://www.echolive.ie/corknews/Armed-gardai-patrol-city-centre-as-concerns-raised-about-100-youths--7afc8e3c-fb75-45fc-828f-3077f8d2874e-ds

igCorcaigh · 08-11-2019 10:03pm

https://twitter.com/EoinBearla/status/1192907661160931330?s=19

BDI · 08-11-2019 10:05pm

Looks like the guards sorted it.

Yam that’s a new word I’ve never heard? Is it as gailge?

Overheal · 08-11-2019 10:15pm

a hundred Hwhat?

igCorcaigh · 08-11-2019 10:15pm

BDI wrote: »

Looks like the guards sorted it.

Yam that’s a new word I’ve never heard? Is it as gailge?

I thought that too. Yam??

igCorcaigh · 08-11-2019 10:16pm

Overheal wrote: »

a hundred Hwhat?

Idiots.

igCorcaigh · 08-11-2019 10:17pm

BDI wrote: »

Looks like the guards sorted it.

Yam that’s a new word I’ve never heard? Is it as gailge?

Aparently there was a tip off.
Eegits.

enricoh · 08-11-2019 10:23pm

BDI wrote: »

Looks like the guards sorted it.

Yam that’s a new word I’ve never heard? Is it as gailge?

Methinks its a phrase some of our newly arrived neighbours use!

odyssey06 · 08-11-2019 10:24pm

If 100 youths tried this in the 80s the guards would have knocked the living daylights out of them.
Which is why 100 youths would not have attempted such scumbaggery.

KWAG2019 · 08-11-2019 10:35pm

Not a good indicator for the future.

Kermit.de.frog · 08-11-2019 11:27pm

Been happening at JD Sports stores all over London in the last week.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81mhppbRpEk

On a side note London is becoming an absolute sh!thole in the last few years with petty and serious crime.

Overheal · 09-11-2019 12:27am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6qGwmXZtsE

Pauliedragon · 09-11-2019 12:37am

Brown Thomas is only around the corner u'd think they would've gone for the good stuff. ****** dopes.

SporadicMan · 09-11-2019 12:47am

Lads, is anti-social behaviour particularly bad in Ireland?

I know London is the prime example of anti-social behaviour so I'm not looking to know if we're worse than them. But does anyone know how we compare to the likes of Germany, Spain, Italy, Portugal, etc.?

Obviously I live in Ireland so I might get more exposure to it here, but it really feels like we've an exceptionally high amount of scumbags in the country.

Andrew00 · 09-11-2019 12:55am

Pauliedragon wrote: »

Brown Thomas is only around the corner u'd think they would've gone for the good stuff. ****** dopes.

You see these individuals like to dress like there role models in the London rap videos, you know, dressed from head to toe in black clothing from JD sports.

punisher5112 · 09-11-2019 1:02am

I still can't understand in 2019 peeps are recording on their stolen iPhones in portrait mode.....

JP Liz V1 · 09-11-2019 1:02am

igCorcaigh wrote: »

Aparently there was a tip off.
Eegits.

Organised through Social Media

punisher5112 · 09-11-2019 1:03am

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

Unfortunately this could mean one of several things, you're going to have to try and be slightly more overt without upsetting the mods

Ethnic something something....

SporadicMan · 09-11-2019 1:03am

Something is going to have to happen soon or else the country will descend into chaos, with this type of incident being the norm. This stuff is becoming more and more common.

MrFrisp · 09-11-2019 1:10am

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Organised through Social Media

Could they not track down the tool that started this off on social media?? IP address, etc..

hatrickpatrick · 09-11-2019 1:10am

punisher5112 wrote: »

Ethnic something something....

That does narrow it down somewhat, but it still leaves the question of whether those who travel or those who are directly provided for are the suspects

punisher5112 · 09-11-2019 1:45am

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

That does narrow it down somewhat, but it still leaves the question of whether those who travel or those who are directly provided for are the suspects

If I were to quote exactly that.... I'd be permo banned..,

Seriously though portrait mode why oh why.....

Remember kids panoramic.... What's that ... It panoramic....

riffmongous · 09-11-2019 2:07am

punisher5112 wrote: »

If I were to quote exactly that.... I'd be permo banned..,

Seriously though portrait mode why oh why.....

Remember kids panoramic.... What's that ... It panoramic....

Instagram is portrait though, I forget Snapchat but probably the other mobile based ones too

mikemac2 · 09-11-2019 8:23am

Yam the shop ?

If this that Jamaican lingo the bruvs and yuffs use in London innit?

Still waters · 09-11-2019 8:48am

So were they black or what, its ok to say it if they are. Its not racist to point out what they are or where they're from

Montage of Feck · 09-11-2019 8:58am

They seem to be aping the English drill rap "culture", should we expect daily stabbings in the near future?

NasserShammaz · 09-11-2019 8:59am

So we can expect a load of these ball grabbing vermin in blanch , city centre .......

Jaysus the guard will be busy poor fella.

If they did it in brown Thomas and some judges or politicians bint got hurt or knocked over well maybe that would be different. Here's a clue Charlie Flanagan most of the runts will be in a Christian or born again church on Sunday with their parents.

amadangomor · 09-11-2019 9:13am

riffmongous wrote: »

Not really my kind of music but actually not a bad track at all

Yep, what a bunch of eejits acting like they are London gangsters. In comments looks like one of the lads stabbed someone but they're from Galway ffs.

Are these the same lads that were walking around in black in Galway city centre?

NasserShammaz · 09-11-2019 9:15am

But if you work in a bookshop your grand, books are like kryptonite to these savages.

Bloodclot yardie wannabes and Conor McGregor f#ckalikes what a future for this country

Kivaro · 09-11-2019 9:18am

Armed Gardai and the riot squad were deployed on the main thoroughfare of Ireland's second largest city in response to the possibility of a black gang running riot in the area. A group of up to 100 of this gang, with their faces covered, were seen on St. Patrick's street shortly after 6 pm but dispersed after the Gardai arrived. Prior to that they were intimidating people on the street and causing havoc.

The purpose of this masked gang was not to demonstrate about their rights or social change, but to rob/steal from shops in the city centre. While the usual people will make light of the event, the rest of us should be asking our public representatives what they are doing to counter this type of activity. It should also be noted that earlier this month it emerged that chronic shortages of Gardaí in Cork meant just two members of the force were patrolling the city centre one night. More here from the Examiner.

There is something seriously warped going on in our country and it is definitely time to have "that" discussion on asylum/migration; especially when it comes to the massive numbers coming to a country that is not prepared or adequately resourced to handle the numbers. This discussion should be in a neutral and impartial environment i.e. not RTE.

Edit: Quickly has a look on the RTE News web site to check for coverage of last night's incident. Nope ... nothing, nada. There are stories about migrants coming to Europe though.

Gynoid · 09-11-2019 9:43am

My reaction is an unqualified Yikes.

jamesbere · 09-11-2019 10:36am

If we don't control anti social behaviour now it will only get worse, thankfully the incident in Cork was stopped but it doesn't mean it won't happen again. I know from walking around the city the sheer lack of Gardaí around the place, groups of teenagers around intimidating people is definitely evident, I've seen it myself.

brevity · 09-11-2019 11:07am

Short term fix: more Gardaí. Letters home to parents reminding them of their responsibilities and the consequences.

Long term fix: Parenting courses. massive fines, community service or house arrest for antisocial behaviour. Proper sentences for the little ****s.

If one of them attacked me and I was forced to defend myself you can be dammed sure I would face consequences.

The_Kew_Tour · 09-11-2019 11:39am

A good buddy of mine was in around the place last night with his 4yo and 7yo daughters and they intimated them. Saw a photo doing rounds and its been put down since. Cant show there poor faces.

Danzy · 09-11-2019 11:51am

Montage of Feck wrote: »

They seem to be aping the English drill rap "culture", should we expect daily stabbings in the near future?

Have do doubt about that.

Given the massive gangs they can organize for criminal acts like this shop looting, expect a take over of the drug trade in future.

MarkY91 · 09-11-2019 12:25pm

Das Reich wrote: »

So much americanism that I almost got a cancer.

Americans are a cause of cancer?

lola85 · 09-11-2019 12:31pm

Personal responsibility is now absolved from parents.

EVERYTHING is the governments fault backed by a left wing media and political representatives.

The government is expected to provide everything to these people for free.

Housing
Education
Health
Food
Clothing
Rent
Fuel

You name it.

And no one dares questions the parents role in providing all this.

10,000 homeless yada yada...

Beechwoodspark · 09-11-2019 12:35pm

Short term - Scour cctv etc and arrest all involved and charge accordingly.

Long term- reform prisons

make then much much much tougher

and give much longer sentences.

Beechwoodspark · 09-11-2019 12:38pm

Pauliedragon wrote: »

Brown Thomas is only around the corner u'd think they would've gone for the good stuff. ****** dopes.

This.

They attack a cheap poor quality sports store

Absolute Fcukin clowns. Numbskulls

coastwatch · 09-11-2019 12:46pm

Kudos to AnGS for preventing this

Beechwoodspark · 09-11-2019 12:49pm

Must say most migrants are fine and very nice ppl but there are always bad apples that need to be dealt with. Same everywhere really.

cantalach · 09-11-2019 12:49pm

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Short term - Scour cctv etc and arrest all involved and charge accordingly.

Arrest them for what exactly? Don't get me wrong: I think what happened last night is a huge concern. But things have to happen in accordance with law.

Beechwoodspark · 09-11-2019 12:49pm

cantalach wrote: »

Arrest them for what exactly? Don't get me wrong: I think what happened last night is a huge concern. But things have to happen in accordance with law.

Fully agree.

Mongfinder General · 09-11-2019 12:50pm

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Short term - Scour cctv etc and arrest all involved and charge accordingly.

Long term- reform prisons

make then much much much tougher

and give much longer sentences.

Giuliani style policing in city centers. New York was a serious kip in the early 1980’s. They basically put a cop on every block so if there was an incident then a cop was rarely more than a minute a way. It made New York safer and ultimately a place that people wanted to visit and live in.

I wouldn’t put an animal in Cork.

Beechwoodspark · 09-11-2019 12:51pm

Mongfinder General wrote: »

Giuliani style policing in city centers. New York was a serious kip in the early 1980’s. They basically put a cop on every block so if there was an incident then a cop was rarely more than a minute a way. It made New York safer and ultimately a place that people wanted to visit and live in.

I wouldn’t put an animal in Cork.

Yep and arm the cops as well so that ppl realise the state is serious about protecting the common good.

These eejits are not afraid of guards with pepper spray and little else.

beauf · 09-11-2019 12:54pm

cantalach wrote: »

How do these "massive numbers" compare with the huge number of Poles who arrived 2004-2007? Ireland wasn't prepared for that influx but it doesn't appear to have caused a complete breakdown in society.

Perhaps more to the point, how do these "massive numbers" compare with the number of Irish people who went to the UK in the 1950s? The negative impact of that migration was felt in the places from which they came rather than the places to which they went. Couldn't it be that the same applies here?
...

I don't know what point you're not making.

lalababa · 09-11-2019 12:58pm

Mongfinder General wrote: »

Giuliani style policing in city centers. New York was a serious kip in the early 1980’s. They basically put a cop on every block so if there was an incident then a cop was rarely more than a minute a way. It made New York safer and ultimately a place that people wanted to visit and live in.

I wouldn’t put an animal in Cork.

Yep, this is it. Lot's of gardai fining & arresting people. Lot's of repercussions to bad behaviour ( justice systems a balls). Heading towards a zero tolerance stance. Start in city center and work out towards garraun, mahon, etc.
If you have a young fella and he keeps doing stuff and getting away with it, the stuff he does keeps escalating.

_Kaiser_ · 09-11-2019 1:02pm

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Yep and arm the cops as well so that ppl realise the state is serious about protecting the common good.

These eejits are not afraid of guards with pepper spray and little else.

That'll only work when we reform the Gardai enough that regular scandals from within the force aren't a thing.

But it's clear that we have a problem with some of the new arrivals to our shores and not just in Cork, but places like Balbriggan, Blanch and others. Finally however people are starting to get pissed off with being told there's "nothing to see here" when it's happening in front of their very eyes on the streets they live and work in.

Immigration is very simple really..

- Come here legally with the means (financial, education, skills) to support youself and contribute positively to our ecomony, integrate into our society and be a benefit to the country in general - welcome!

- Arrive in the back of a container, claiming "asylum" from safe countries, have no needed skills or way to support yourself, and expect your hosts to bend over backwards to accomodate your culture/religion (that you may be claiming to flee) - back on the next flight to where you came from!

End of.. we have enough serious problems of our own, and issues with antisocial lazy wasters of our own, and native criminal elements, that we don't need to be importing other countries problems as well.

Tauriel · 09-11-2019 1:10pm

I wonder are any of these feckers the gang that threatened to gang rape the female BE driver on Halloween night?

But I suppose if any of them were to be charged with anything they will get away with it considering all you have to do in this country is claim "a difficult upbringing" .

sdanseo · 09-11-2019 1:11pm

This is why all Gardaí should have tasers. A few casual electrocutions would sort this crap out.

The real irony here is the association of JD Sports and "good quality clothing".
Normal functioning contributing members of society shouldnt wear a tracksuit outside, unless actually exercising.

cantalach wrote: »

Arrest them for what exactly? Don't get me wrong: I think what happened last night is a huge concern. But things have to happen in accordance with law.

Attempting to commit theft. It's a crime (and actually, a crime for which any citizen can arrest without warrant, once you have reasonable suspicion).

4.—(1) Subject to subsections (4) and (5), any person may arrest without warrant anyone who is or whom he or she, with reasonable cause, suspects to be in the act of committing an arrestable offence. http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/1997/act/14/section/4/enacted/en/html#sec4

Not suggesting vigilantism yet, AGS nipped it in the bud. But the problem is real and the consistent ignorance of it to justify other policies is downright irresponsible.

beauf · 09-11-2019 1:21pm

Mongfinder General wrote: »

Giuliani style policing in city centers. New York was a serious kip in the early 1980’s. They basically put a cop on every block so if there was an incident then a cop was rarely more than a minute a way. It made New York safer and ultimately a place that people wanted to visit and live in.

I wouldn’t put an animal in Cork.

That's only partly true. There was also a increase in money spent on policing and resources. There was a rise in the economy and more people working. There was a decrease in crime nationally at the same time.

Giuliani policies did have an effect, but they were part of a bigger picture.

There was some corolation that increase in attention on minor crimes had a larger impact.

Organised Raid by up to 100 Youths in Cork City Centr

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