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Planning Permission for Bayside shopping center demolition granted

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 219 ✭✭PlayByTheRules


    Very likely latest approval will be appealed with ABP


  • Registered Users Posts: 269 ✭✭Loadedscream


    Seems to be some talk that it is a centra moving in rather than an Aldi. New company popped up on the CRO website.

    Local councillor saying otherwise though -

    http://jimmyguerin.ie/2018/12/05/shops-at-bayside/

    Anyone know what's going on?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,994 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    Seems to be some talk that it is a centra moving in rather than an Aldi. New company popped up on the CRO website.

    Local councillor saying otherwise though -

    http://jimmyguerin.ie/2018/12/05/shops-at-bayside/

    Anyone know what's going on?

    could there be both a centra and aldi, centra is more a convenience store, sells slightly different things to aldi.

    I didn't think centra ran "supermakets",but im told they run the supermarket in kilbarrack greendale centra

    when is the supermarket suppose to open, its long way off

    a lot more building work being done since xmas anyway


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,778 ✭✭✭BowWow


    Work has certainly speeded up. Was looking at it today, looks like they are putting the extra floor on now. Probably had to wait for steel after the Planning Permission was granted and thats what slowed the whole thing down.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,994 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    I have again spoken to the Architects and in this regard again confirm that Aldi are still going into Bayside as the main tenant. The work on their unit will be completed by year end and Aldi will then commence their fit out. They have signed a contract for this.

    In relation to Centra, they will also be opening a small unit at the southern end of the development but will be more small convenience and newsagents type shop

    I hope this clarifies matters for you and if at any stage I can be of assistance please do not hesitate to contact me

    Kind Regards

    Jimmy Gueirn
    there you two shops like there used to be


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 623 ✭✭✭Fiolina


    This popped up on my newsfeed.
    Copied & Pasted

    Cian O'Callaghan
    19 May at 11:10 ·
    Along with local residents I met recently with the management of Bayside Shopping Centre to get an update regarding the re-development. The key points were:

    • Construction of phase 1 is due to finish in Mid-June and the new Centra will open then

    • The Centra will be about half the size of the previous store and will house the post office

    • Phase 2 construction shall take place between July 1st and February and the new Aldi is expected to open in March or April about 8 weeks after building work is finished

    • The previous provision of 119 car parking spaces will increase to 154

    • The new centre will feature the marble finish throughout the external finish except where some brick work is used for differentiation and will feature a gymn, medical centre, creche, restaurant as well as the existing shops and services which will be renovated


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,375 ✭✭✭bri007


    The building work has come on a lot the last few months, wouldn’t be surprised if it’s all finished before that date.
    Fiolina wrote: »
    This popped up on my newsfeed.
    Copied & Pasted

    Cian O'Callaghan
    19 May at 11:10 ·
    Along with local residents I met recently with the management of Bayside Shopping Centre to get an update regarding the re-development. The key points were:

    • Construction of phase 1 is due to finish in Mid-June and the new Centra will open then

    • The Centra will be about half the size of the previous store and will house the post office

    • Phase 2 construction shall take place between July 1st and February and the new Aldi is expected to open in March or April about 8 weeks after building work is finished

    • The previous provision of 119 car parking spaces will increase to 154

    • The new centre will feature the marble finish throughout the external finish except where some brick work is used for differentiation and will feature a gymn, medical centre, creche, restaurant as well as the existing shops and services which will be renovated


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 129 ✭✭marvin42


    Centra opened yesterday, building for the apartments and Aldi still going on and making slow progress.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 219 ✭✭PlayByTheRules


    marvin42 wrote: »
    Centra opened yesterday, building for the apartments and Aldi still going on and making slow progress.

    Very slow progress and hard to see what the whole complex is going to end up like. I have a fear not all stages will be completed and we will be left with eye-sore sections.

    The new Centra is nice though and so is the stone work leading into it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,778 ✭✭✭BowWow


    Place is starting to look good, it's bright, nice materials, good finish.
    Had a look at the Bayside Inn yesterday - now that's a place long past it's "sell by" date! This really should be incorporated in the next phase.
    The old red brick part of the old centre, hairdressers, munchies, hardware etc is another eyesore...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 961 ✭✭✭Conchir


    BowWow wrote: »
    Place is starting to look good, it's bright, nice materials, good finish.
    Had a look at the Bayside Inn yesterday - now that's a place long past it's "sell by" date! This really should be incorporated in the next phase.
    The old red brick part of the old centre, hairdressers, munchies, hardware etc is another eyesore...

    The exterior looks terrible I'll admit, but the interior is great and I'd hate to see it change drastically. Sure, a renovation would be good, update the toilets and the upholstery on the benches etc, but hopefully the pub itself keeps its current character. It's a very nice local.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,269 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    BowWow wrote: »
    Place is starting to look good, it's bright, nice materials, good finish.
    Had a look at the Bayside Inn yesterday - now that's a place long past it's "sell by" date! This really should be incorporated in the next phase.
    The old red brick part of the old centre, hairdressers, munchies, hardware etc is another eyesore...

    Do you mean the bit where the medical centre is?
    Once the new place is finished they are due to go into it and afaik the bunker type thing will be demolished.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,778 ✭✭✭BowWow


    spurious wrote: »
    Do you mean the bit where the medical centre is?

    Yes, Munchies, Hardware shop, Barbers, Chinese take-away etc.
    spurious wrote: »
    Once the new place is finished they are due to go into it and afaik the bunker type thing will be demolished.

    Didn't know that, good news.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,994 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    spurious wrote: »
    Do you mean the bit where the medical centre is?
    Once the new place is finished they are due to go into it and afaik the bunker type thing will be demolished.

    im not sure if they will or they won't, their photo montages show it redeveloped with windows to the car park but they recently put a new roof on it, there were going to demolish the chinese end but aren't now.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,269 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    I know the medical centre is moving, didn't know about the rest.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,778 ✭✭✭BowWow


    spurious wrote: »
    I know the medical centre is moving, didn't know about the rest.

    Whilst there is to be a medical centre in the new build, that doesn't mean it's the one in the red brick bunker part that will move in.
    There is also a doctor's practice in the old shops(Xtra Vision?) - this could be the one to move in.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,269 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    Dr. Macauley told me she will be in the new building. I presume the Skincheck Dr. Steve and all their staff will go too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 129 ✭✭marvin42


    Small hint for the things to come....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,778 ✭✭✭BowWow


    marvin42 wrote: »
    Small hint for the things to come....

    Are you asking for a hint, or do you have one to give? :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 129 ✭✭marvin42


    ups, photo did not upload...


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  • Registered Users Posts: 655 ✭✭✭L


    marvin42 wrote: »
    ups, photo did not upload...

    Do we have an eta on when they open?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,778 ✭✭✭BowWow


    marvin42 wrote: »
    ups, photo did not upload...

    Wonder was that a test to see if one of their delivery lorries can reverse in there? Looks like a difficult corner to reverse into.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,778 ✭✭✭BowWow


    Fiolina wrote: »
    Cian O'Callaghan
    19 May at 11:10 ·
    Along with local residents I met recently with the management of Bayside Shopping Centre to get an update regarding the re-development. The key points were:
    • Construction of phase 1 is due to finish in Mid-June and the new Centra will open then
    • The Centra will be about half the size of the previous store and will house the post office
    • Phase 2 construction shall take place between July 1st and February and the new Aldi is expected to open in March or April about 8 weeks after building work is finished
    • The previous provision of 119 car parking spaces will increase to 154
    • The new centre will feature the marble finish throughout the external finish except where some brick work is used for differentiation and will feature a gymn, medical centre, creche, restaurant as well as the existing shops and services which will be renovated
    L wrote: »
    Do we have an eta on when they open?

    Well Centra was to open in June and didn't till August, so I'd say June 2020 at the earliest.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,778 ✭✭✭BowWow


    Did the Post Office move into the new Centra?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,778 ✭✭✭BowWow


    BowWow wrote: »
    Did the Post Office move into the new Centra?

    To answer my own question - was in there this morning and the PO is in the Centra....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,778 ✭✭✭BowWow


    Blue builder's marks now on the ground outside the old squash courts, hardware store etc. Probably for the hording to go around Phase 2.


  • Registered Users Posts: 445 ✭✭Alicano


    Disappointed to see the huge trees that were cut on Blvd Sth side were not replaced in any way. Just pathway, low wall/fence and car park spaces. Pity.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,778 ✭✭✭BowWow


    Alicano wrote: »
    Disappointed to see the huge trees that were cut on Blvd Sth side were not replaced in any way. Just pathway, low wall/fence and car park spaces. Pity.

    Place is not finished, landscaping will be done near the end. Plans show a number of trees going into the revised car parking layout.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,778 ✭✭✭BowWow


    Phase 2 now started. Hoarding up around site. House number seven (squash court end) currently being dismantled.


  • Registered Users Posts: 445 ✭✭Alicano


    BowWow wrote: »
    Place is not finished, landscaping will be done near the end. Plans show a number of trees going into the revised car parking layout.

    Hope you're right. That corner looks finished. Pavement, car spaces, wall and railings. Fingers crossed.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 129 ✭✭marvin42


    no replanting of trees planed according planing permission documents :-(
    http://documents.fingalcoco.ie/NorthgatePublicDocs/00632432.pdf


  • Registered Users Posts: 269 ✭✭Loadedscream


    Looks like the Aldi is aiming to open in July - new opening in Sutton mentioned here - https://www.aldirecruitment.ie/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,109 ✭✭✭eviltimeban


    Is Sutton Bayside now? :-)


  • Registered Users Posts: 445 ✭✭Alicano


    Is Sutton Bayside now? :-)

    If you're selling your house or meeting in-laws for the first time then yes :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 445 ✭✭Alicano


    Slowest build of all time it must be said. And it's ugly as sin too. Improvement on what was before sure . But that wouldn't have been hard.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,375 ✭✭✭bri007


    The Chinese is closed and won’t be opening back up due to huge costs over moving into the new build.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,778 ✭✭✭BowWow


    bri007 wrote: »
    The Chinese is closed and won’t be opening back up due to huge costs over moving into the new build.

    Probably not the only reason for closure. I certainly stopped using them after this -

    https://www.dublinlive.ie/news/dublin-news/dublin-food-closure-orders-hse-15229322


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,375 ✭✭✭bri007


    Wow....... wish I seen that as I regularly visited Kings on the way home from some pints out....

    I use to think my hangovers were getting worse with age but now I’m thinking it may have been the food :(
    BowWow wrote: »
    Probably not the only reason for closure. I certainly stopped using them after this -

    https://www.dublinlive.ie/news/dublin-news/dublin-food-closure-orders-hse-15229322


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,700 ✭✭✭tricky D


    This popped up for me...
    Bayside Community Association
    ·

    Hi all,
    We are delighted to share with you a recent update meeting we had with f Brezlin developer
    For Bayside S C.

    Shopping Centre Development

    2nd phase underway and due for completion end of 2020.
    Aldi Unit will be handed over for fit-out in June, scheduled to open in September.
    Gymnasium is complete but the unit will be accessed through the ‘phase 2’ end and therefore won’t be operational until later in the year. An operator has yet to be confirmed.
    Creche is currently located in Phase 1 but will move to Phase 2 when works finish. A new 100 seater ‘night time’ restaurant will open in the existing creche unit. Tenant yet to be agreed.
    McCartan’s Chemist will remain in their current unit and when works are completed they will also occupy the existing doctor’s centre next door. The doctor’s centre will move to occupy a unit in the new Phase 2.

    ‘Island Unit’ – currently occupied by various tenants - Bayside Barbers, Pout Beauty, Pavlova etc
    This has been completely re-roofed and further refurbishment is planned, including having access to some units from the carpark side.
    The units currently occupied by King’s Chinese and Bayside Barbers will be amalgamated to facilitate a new coffee shop. This will seat 40 people and there will also be an outside dining area.
    Bayside Barbers will relocate to another unit in the Centre. King’s has departed and will not be taking up occupation again.

    Car Park
    The first part of the carpark works will be completed by the end of this month and the original access off Bayside Square South will be reinstated. There will be 80 spaces in this phase.
    The site compound will be moved from its current location at the front of the carpark to the back of the carpark (near the church). This is scheduled for next week or two. Final capacity of the carpark on completion of works will be 154 spaces. There were 119 spaces in the original carpark.
    There will be extensive lighting in the carpark and planting schemes will be completed at the end of the build. BCA will liaise with the Landscape Architect to discuss planting that will complement other garden themes in Bayside and enhance biodiversity and increase pollinators.

    Apartments
    4 apartments are completed and are currently being kitted out. They will be offered for sale in March.
    A further 8 apartments will be completed in Phase 2 and will also be offered for sale.

    Bottlebank
    The bottlebank was removed from the carpark following a number of hefty litter fines from Fingal County Council. These fines resulted from cardboard boxes/bags etc being left behind after glass, bottles etc were deposited.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,068 ✭✭✭✭neris


    Is the creche mentioned open or are they putting in a unit for a creche?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83,505 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    There should be a €3million fine for anyone leaving cardboard boxes/bags behind at a bottle bank.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,995 ✭✭✭Princess Calla


    neris wrote: »
    Is the creche mentioned open or are they putting in a unit for a creche?

    Kidz club, its been there years.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,778 ✭✭✭BowWow


    Planning Permission refused for the omission of the "Green" roof.

    Good that that has to go ahead...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,995 ✭✭✭Princess Calla


    BowWow wrote: »
    Planning Permission refused for the omission of the "Green" roof.

    Good that that has to go ahead...

    What is the green roof?

    I'm sure I could search for the planning permission but that will take for ages :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,778 ✭✭✭BowWow


    I'm sure I could search for the planning permission but that will take for ages :D

    I'll meet you half way :P

    http://planning.fingalcoco.ie/swiftlg/apas/run/WPHAPPDETAIL.DisplayURL?theApnID=F19A/0628


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,995 ✭✭✭Princess Calla


    BowWow wrote: »

    :D thanks.... Unfortunately I may aswell be reading Chinese.

    This build is the longest build in history, totally takes the p!! Hopefully the supermarket will be in for Christmas.


  • Registered Users Posts: 552 ✭✭✭whodafunk


    Does anyone know if the bakery is gone permanently? I see the unit is empty. Pity if it is gone


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,995 ✭✭✭Princess Calla


    whodafunk wrote: »
    Does anyone know if the bakery is gone permanently? I see the unit is empty. Pity if it is gone

    Kings was the only closure I've heard of precovid.

    But if the unit is empty that doesn't sound good, they could be trading easily enough now.

    The building site on top of them has had to impact trade, the same with the hardware then covid, tough times.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,778 ✭✭✭BowWow




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,375 ✭✭✭bri007


    Taking an age to finish it
    BowWow wrote: »


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