Woman convicted for false rape allegation against 12 men in Cyprus (Overturned in Jan22)

racso1975 · 28-07-2019 11:00pm

Jez you'd swear there was never a rape case where the defendant was found innocent prior to the one up the north.

People using the metoo movement is total bull****. Recording was going on well before that.

No matter what sentance she gets she'll still have to face everyone afterwards which im sure will be a lot harder.

But the fact remains and is shown in this thread people judged her cause she had an orgy and that's obviously what she feared most. People judging others lifestyle choice

Sorry about that · 28-07-2019 11:12pm

Undoubtedly this girl has made a total mess of things, and hopefully justice will be served for the sake of the guys she lied about.

The issue is that she lied, not that she had sex with them. Some of the posts here, calling her a slut, and sneering at feminism, make for very enlightening if uncomfortable reading. No doubt softly spoken gents in the real world.

meeeeh · 28-07-2019 11:17pm

Sorry about that wrote: »

Undoubtedly this girl has made a total mess of things, and hopefully justice will be served for the sake of the guys she lied about.

The issue is that she lied, not that she had sex with them. Some of the posts here, calling her a slut, and sneering at feminism, make for very enlightening if uncomfortable reading. No doubt softly spoken gents in the real world.

Plus false allegations make it a lot harder for actual victims of rape to be believed too. I have no sympathy for her but a bit of perspective is needed. The accused boys were cleared in a few days, Carl Beech in comparison destroyed lives.

antix80 · 28-07-2019 11:19pm

Sorry about that wrote: »

The issue is that she lied, not that she had sex with them. Some of the posts here, calling her a slut, and sneering at feminism, make for very enlightening if uncomfortable reading. No doubt softly spoken gents in the real world.

I suppose the question is what do you mean by slut? Where do you draw the line?

antix80 · 28-07-2019 11:24pm

meeeeh wrote: »

. The accused boys were cleared in a few days, Carl Beech in comparison destroyed lives.

Sorry didn't rake through the entire thread but wtf does Carl beech have to do with anything? Is he a Cypriot?

Anyway

The accused boys were cleared because it's cyprus and not the uk

They'd be cleared in italy, spain, portugal, israel, South america.... But not ireland, canada, the u.s,, well any woke English-speaking country that the metoo hashtag isn't used ironically

Sleeper12 · 28-07-2019 11:28pm

meeeeh wrote:

Plus false allegations make it a lot harder for actual victims of rape to be believed too. I have no sympathy for her but a bit of perspective is needed. The accused boys were cleared in a few days, Carl Beech in comparison destroyed lives.

Her lies were so outlandish that her story fell apart quickly. What if she only accused the three that she actually had sex with? There would be a court case & they might have been found guilty.

I don't agree with some that they should throw away the key but she definitely needs to be charged & brought through the court system with some punishment if found guilty.

meeeeh · 28-07-2019 11:32pm

antix80 wrote: »

Sorry didn't rake through the entire thread but wtf does Carl beech have to do with anything? Is he a Cypriot?

Anyway

The accused boys were cleared because it's cyprus and not the uk

They'd be cleared in italy, spain, portugal, israel, South america.... But not ireland, canada, the u.s,, well any woke English-speaking country that the metoo hashtag isn't used ironically

I'll ignore your Twitter induced frustrations in last paragraph but someone about 5 post above claimed she deserves higher penalty than Carl Beech. You don't need to rake through the whole thread just read the posts you are actually replying to.

Ecce No Homo · 28-07-2019 11:35pm

meeeeh wrote: »

Well if you are afraid they will destroy your life with false accusations then the best course of action is not to have sex.

I think it's a given that the pitiful collection of beta males, dweebs, losers and men's rights activists in this thread are not having sex in any case.

antix80 · 28-07-2019 11:35pm

A fair penalty is the sentence the people she falsely accused would have got if found guilty.

Sorry about that · 28-07-2019 11:38pm

antix80 wrote: »

I suppose the question is what do you mean by slut? Where do you draw the line?

The word slut is a derogatory term used to describe a person who has casual sex with different partners. I don't refer to anyone as a slut, so there is no line. It's none of my business.

I don't believe that any girl/woman really wants group sex, and I think she'd have regretted it even if she hadn't created the rest of the mess that she stupidly did. I think that sexual promiscuity is a really bad idea for many reasons, but name calling, not for me.

antix80 · 28-07-2019 11:42pm

Ecce No Homo wrote: »

I think it's a given that the woeful collection of beta males, dweebs, losers and men's rights activists in this thread are not having sex in the any case.

What's with the homophobic username?

It's funny how so-called feminists try to shame men using crude, sexual terms ("oh you don't get any, you're an incel, probably **** in your parents basement") when the tables are turned they get all precious about how we must believe the lies of some of the nastiest and skankiest women and how it's all the fault of toxic masculinity. Well, women can be pretty toxic too

antix80 · 28-07-2019 11:54pm

Sorry about that wrote: »

The word slut is a derogatory term used to describe a person who has casual sex with different partners. I don't refer to anyone as a slut, so there is no line. It's none of my business.

I don't believe that any girl/woman really wants group sex, and I think she'd have regretted it even if she hadn't created the rest of the mess that she stupidly did. I think that sexual promiscuity is a really bad idea for many reasons, but name calling, not for me.

No you're right. Labelling is bad form.

Why use a noun when a long-winded dictionary definition is kinder?

He's not a rapist. That's name calling. He's a man who likes penetration without consent.

I do believe some people, male and female, want group sex. I believe many will regret it, especially if someone finds out. If the worst that comes out of it is name calling you're doing alright.

Atlantic Dawn · 28-07-2019 11:56pm

What first attracted her on her own to 12 males that she later thought raped her?

Sorry about that · 29-07-2019 12:01am

antix80 wrote: »

No you're right. Labelling is bad form.

Why use a noun when a long-winded dictionary definition is kinder?

He's not a rapist. That's name calling. He's a man who likes penetration without consent.

I do believe some people, male and female, want group sex. I believe many will regret it, especially if someone finds out. If the worst that comes out of it is name calling you're doing alright.

You asked me what I meant by slut, and now you're being sarcastic when I give you the accepted meaning. Rapist isn't a derogatory term.

I don't believe you want a discussion, your post reads as an annoying wind up. I'm out.

antix80 · 29-07-2019 12:04am

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

What first attracted her on her own to 12 males that she later thought raped her?

She placed her worth in her perceived desirability, which she judged by the amount of men who wanted to do her at the same time. I'd say she decided to lower her inhibitions by consuming alcohol.

Atlantic Dawn · 29-07-2019 12:06am

antix80 wrote: »

She placed her worth in her perceived desirability, which she judged by the amount of men who wanted to do her at the same time. I'd say she decided to lower her inhibitions by consuming alcohol.

Inhibitions by consuming alcohol would imply her 'friends' thought she was perfectly sober. Or was she in Ayia Napa the party capital of Cyprus on her own?

splinter65 · 29-07-2019 12:07am

meeeeh wrote: »

Yes better to be careful and not to talk to women at all and just sit at home and call them lying sluts. Isn't that what beta men do now days?

Anyway I'm glad it was cleared up fairly quickly and this kind of false accusations do deserve custodial sentence.

Oh talking to women and having the craic where there’s other people around is fine and should be encouraged. That’s how you get to know people.

antix80 · 29-07-2019 12:08am

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Inhibitions by consuming alcohol would imply her friends thought she was perfectly sober.

I think inhibitions are a very personal thing.

splinter65 · 29-07-2019 12:10am

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

What first attracted her on her own to 12 males that she later thought raped her?

Their seems to have been a mutual desire to have an orgy of penetrative sex.

antix80 · 29-07-2019 12:14am

splinter65 wrote: »

Their seems to have been a mutual desire to have an orgy of penetrative sex.

A form of bonding i suppose. Similar to how cavemen may have socialised by spit-roasting a boar. Time for bed I think. Sayonara

py2006 · 29-07-2019 12:27am

Ecce No Homo wrote: »

I think it's a given that the pitiful collection of beta males, dweebs, losers and men's rights activists in this thread are not having sex in any case.

Thats a disgraceful and pathetic post.

splinter65 · 29-07-2019 7:07am

Free sex with no consequences is turning out to be a disaster for both sexes. What is the remedy?

Anto Lynch · 29-07-2019 7:56am

Not the type youd bring home to meet mammy it seems.

Boggles · 29-07-2019 9:21am

NKante wrote: »

The MeToo thing was great to expose genuine (alleged) scumbags like Cosby, Spacey and Weinstein - but as usual it went too far when the left grabbed hold of the movement and turned it into - "some guy in the 1980's touched my knee"...."My boss made a pass at me in 1992".

I'd hardly at this point put Spacey in with those 2.

NKante · 29-07-2019 2:29pm

A bit of an update to this story.

She has now confessed to making it all up and it wasn't because they filmed the act, it was in revenge for having been spurned by one of the guys. He didn't want to have sex with her, so she decided to claim he and the others raped her.

Photo of the girl, face blurred. Would have been on that quick as a flash when I was a lad.

antix80 · 29-07-2019 2:32pm

NKante wrote: »

Photo of the girl, face blurred. Would have been on that quick as a flash when I was a lad.

I think she prefers skinless sausage.

NKante · 29-07-2019 2:35pm

antix80 wrote: »

I think she prefers skinless sausage.

Mate, this girl likes ANY sausage. Pity there weren't any palestinians there. Could have bonded with the Israelis whilst running a train on her.

Daily Mail Headline: "British slag brings peace to the Middle East"

Eric Cartman · 29-07-2019 2:37pm

NKante wrote: »

antix80 wrote: »

I think she prefers skinless sausage.

Mate, this girl likes ANY sausage. Pity there weren't any palestinians there. Could have bonded with the Israelis whilst running a train on her.

Daily Mail Headline: "British slag brings peace to the Middle East"

Might open up the door for an exciting new career as ‘the gaza stripper’ in tel aviv’s top brothel

antix80 · 29-07-2019 2:39pm

Some actual news..

https://www.timesofisrael.com/british-tourist-said-to-admit-she-made-up-gang-rape-since-she-felt-humiliated/

The Israeli teenager who had been considered the main suspect, upon being released from custody, said that “the truth has been revealed.”

“God will punish her. We don’t care whether she is prosecuted, the main thing is that she has been arrested,” he added. “All the teenagers coming to Ayia Napa need to be careful.”

The suspects told Channel 12 that she agreed to be filmed and “everything was consensual.”

“She said ‘close the door,’ for the children [so they shouldn’t see], she wanted sex,” one of the suspects told the network.

“As I claimed throughout, there was no rape in Cyprus,” said Nir Yaslovitzh, an attorney for some of the suspects. “The youths who went on a vacation that became a nightmare will return to their homes today. All of them will return home to their families. Cypriot police carried out a professional and thorough investigation.”

https://www.timesofisrael.com/cyprus-court-remands-uk-tourist-who-said-she-made-up-rape-claim-against-israelis/

Some of the Israeli youths have said they plan to file a joint lawsuit against the woman. Channel 13 reported they intend claim at least 60,000 euros ($66,740) in damages and that local authorities are also considering a lawsuit against the tourist for the high cost of the investigation.

https://cyprus-mail.com/2019/07/29/heroes-welcome-for-israeli-teens-after-woman-detained-for-false-rape-claim-update-2/

The seven teens were jubilant when they were greeted by their cheering families at Ben Gurion Airport on Sunday night.

“In the arrivals hall, the teens, all wearing white yarmulkes, loudly celebrated their release by opening champagne bottles, chanting “Am Yisrael Chai” (the people of Israel lives) along with “the Brit is a whore.” They said they did not regret or feel bad about the incident.

Boggles · 29-07-2019 2:47pm

NKante wrote: »

Photo of the girl, face blurred.

Thank God you pointed that out.

jam_mac_jam · 29-07-2019 2:52pm

NKante wrote: »

Photo of the girl, face blurred. Would have been on that quick as a flash when I was a lad.

Despite not being able to see her face. Stay classy.

py2006 · 29-07-2019 2:54pm

NKante wrote: »

it was in revenge for having been spurned

I remember reading a piece on why these kind of allegations are made by some women and this was one of the common reasons.

NKante · 29-07-2019 2:57pm

jam_mac_jam wrote: »

Despite not being able to see her face. Stay classy.

Are you asking me to have sympathy for a girl that just tried to have 12 men BOYS innocently jailed in a foreign country for 10 years?

Her identity shouldn't even be protected.

Absolute state of you.

jam_mac_jam · 29-07-2019 3:01pm

NKante wrote: »

Are you asking me to have sympathy for a girl that just tried to have 12 men BOYS innocently jailed in a foreign country for 10 years?

Her identity shouldn't even be protected.

Absolute state of you.

No I am not asking you to have sympathy for anyone. Did I say that?

State of me? I am not defending anyone. Calm down.

You would have been on her quick as a flash yet you don't even know what she looks like?

splinter65 · 29-07-2019 3:02pm

jam_mac_jam wrote: »

Despite not being able to see her face. Stay classy.

Yes because all the characters in this story are very very classy.
Your irritated because there’s no opportunity here to blame the male characters.
They boys involved need to be taught to beware of Greeks bearing gifts.
She needs to be reprogrammed as a person who has some self value.

py2006 · 29-07-2019 3:02pm

The scary thing is, she could easily have gotten away with this. Those men would be in jail and she would be at home taking selfies and enjoying life.

jam_mac_jam · 29-07-2019 3:04pm

py2006 wrote: »

The scary thing is, she could easily have gotten away with this. Those men would be in jail and she would be at home taking selfies and enjoying life.

I think the story was so stupid that she would easily have been caught. The fast she tried to implicate somebody who wasn't even there. but agreed it is frightening and identities shouldn't be released before trial.

NKante · 29-07-2019 3:05pm

jam_mac_jam wrote: »

You would have been on her quick as a flash yet you don't even know what she looks like?

Oh mate, I don't even know if she has a nice personality!!!! LOL

When I was 18, I'd have been on that. She looks trim, even if her face is butters.

You're the guy that read CD covers at parties :rolleyes:

mcmoustache · 29-07-2019 3:05pm

This is about as blatant a false claim as it gets. I noticed that she still receives anonymity in that ToI article. Is that normal? I know that she'll be named once indicted but it seems odd to withhold her name at this point.

I don't know how the Cypriot system punished false reports but I hope this one gets prosecuted and given a punishment at the highest end of the scale. Throwing around a rape allegation for such a frivolous reason is disgusting and needs to be seen as something taken seriously.

Based on what's publicly known, this girl made the allegation, possibly with the advice of friends. If this is true, then she decided to make this allegation thinking that it would be easy and risk-free and this is a major problem - the perception that such a false allegation can be made and that the risk of facing any consequences is so low. Actual prosecutions for false allegations would help correct that.

And for the benefit of those who appeared confused about the difference between a false allegation and an allegation that doesn't meet the burden of "beyond reasonable doubt", this post is about false allegations. It's not about allegations that don't reach a guilty verdict. They are very different things and shouldn't be confused.

NKante · 29-07-2019 3:06pm

py2006 wrote: »

The scary thing is, she could easily have gotten away with this. Those men would be in jail and she would be at home taking selfies and enjoying life.

Hats off to the Cypriots. We tend to look down on these 'hot' countries for being a bit corrupt and all that, but seems like they don't have that "believe all women" default position and actually investigated the crime thoroughly.

Of course it helped the Israeli lads that they had video evidence of her begging for more Shlomo cock.

jam_mac_jam · 29-07-2019 3:07pm

splinter65 wrote: »

Yes because all the characters in this story are very very classy.
Your irritated because there’s no opportunity here to blame the male characters.
They boys involved need to be taught to beware of Greeks bearing gifts.
She needs to be reprogrammed as a person who has some self value.

No I am actually really glad they got off. Its horrible for anyone to be accused of anything they didn't do and I wouldn't be happy about it for the sake of ideology.

jam_mac_jam · 29-07-2019 3:08pm

NKante wrote: »

Oh mate, I don't even know if she has a nice personality!!!! LOL

When I was 18, I'd have been on that. She looks trim, even if her face is butters.

You're the guy that read CD covers at parties :rolleyes:

Ok fair enough, I think at 18 its a bit different. Sorry I said a word.

jam_mac_jam · 29-07-2019 3:09pm

NKante wrote: »

Hats off to the Cypriots. We tend to look down on these 'hot' countries for being a bit corrupt and all that, but seems like they don't have that "believe all women" default position and actually investigated the crime thoroughly.

Of course it helped the Israeli lads that they had video evidence of her begging for more Shlomo cock.

Or maybe it shouldn't have got as far as it did if it was so obviously fake?

NKante · 29-07-2019 3:23pm

jam_mac_jam wrote: »

Or maybe it shouldn't have got as far as it did if it was so obviously fake?

I guess they had to investigate every boy that was there. 12 of them. 5 were eliminated a few days ago.

Every phone needed to be checked. DNA sample from everyone involved.

Good life lesson for the boys here.

meeeeh · 29-07-2019 4:57pm

NKante wrote: »

Hats off to the Cypriots. We tend to look down on these 'hot' countries for being a bit corrupt and all that, but seems like they don't have that "believe all women" default position and actually investigated the crime thoroughly.

Of course it helped the Israeli lads that they had video evidence of her begging for more Shlomo cock.

So despite not knowing anything about Cyprus you decided thst first they were supposed to be corrupt and now that a girl is found out lying their justice system is suddenly top notch.

Would you be interested in some Nigerian gold by any chance?

NKante · 29-07-2019 5:47pm

meeeeh wrote: »

So despite not knowing anything about Cyprus you decided thst first they were supposed to be corrupt and now that a girl is found out lying their justice system is suddenly top notch.

Would you be interested in some Nigerian gold by any chance?

Na, just saying these countries...you know....they're a bit...wayyy and a bit whooo.

Like the Portuguese investigating Maddy. Absolute shambles.

It's all the hot countries that are a bit mental.

You know what it's like, the Spanish cops, the Italians.....all a bit....you know

Eric Cartman · 29-07-2019 6:26pm

NKante wrote: »

meeeeh wrote: »

So despite not knowing anything about Cyprus you decided thst first they were supposed to be corrupt and now that a girl is found out lying their justice system is suddenly top notch.

Would you be interested in some Nigerian gold by any chance?

Na, just saying these countries...you know....they're a bit...wayyy and a bit whooo.

Like the Portuguese investigating Maddy. Absolute shambles.

It's all the hot countries that are a bit mental.

You know what it's like, the Spanish cops, the Italians.....all a bit....you know

A bit what ? This just seems like a mad ramble , not every hot country has a police force like the films about turkey youre imagining. Every country has had a measure of police incompetence/corruption but Im not aware of any spanish or italian police stereotype as lazy/brutal or corrupt

NKante · 29-07-2019 6:32pm

Eric Cartman wrote: »

A bit what ? This just seems like a mad ramble , not every hot country has a police force like the films about turkey youre imagining. Every country has had a measure of police incompetence/corruption but Im not aware of any spanish or italian police stereotype as lazy/brutal or corrupt

Alright.

Name me a country in South America, Africa, the Middle East or Asia where you'd rather spend the night in jail than in Finland, Norway or England.

Case closed.

Eric Cartman · 29-07-2019 6:41pm

NKante wrote: »

Alright.

Name me a country in South America, Africa, the Middle East or Asia where you'd rather spend the night in jail than in Finland, Norway or England.

Case closed.

I wont fault that but you shifted from spain and italy.... if your claim was the cloumbian police are a bit 'you know' id get that, no question, but what about the italians ?

NKante · 29-07-2019 6:47pm

Eric Cartman wrote: »

I wont fault that but you shifted from spain and italy.... if your claim was the cloumbian police are a bit 'you know' id get that, no question, but what about the italians ?

Ever been to football abroad? the Spanish and Italian police are known for having a penchant to use their truncheon on one's head.

Everyone knows Mediterraneans are a bit mental. Try dating a Greek girl.

Am I the only one that knows Spanish police are a bit...you know

Someone else back me up here

Woman convicted for false rape allegation against 12 men in Cyprus (Overturned in Jan22)

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