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Woman convicted for false rape allegation against 12 men in Cyprus (Overturned in Jan22)

  • 28-07-2019 2:38pm
    #1
    py2006
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,844 ✭✭✭py2006


    British woman who accused 12 Israeli teens of gang-raping her in Cyprus is ARRESTED for 'making false allegations' and ALL the men who were arrested over the 'attack' are released.

    What an awful thing to do. Mud sticks.
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  • #2
    dennyire
    Registered Users Posts: 1,835 ✭✭✭dennyire


    In before Berties Horse


  • #3
    Atlantic Dawn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83,407 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    And this is why the accused should never be identified prior to a verdict being made. Those men were marched infront of the media, reputations potentially destroyed. She should get 5 years in jail.


  • #4
    Hego Damask
    Registered Users Posts: 842 ✭✭✭Hego Damask


    Throw the book at the lying slut


  • #5
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    The newspaper quoted in the OP shows the photo of some of the guys yet no photo of her.


  • #6
    Phoebas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,371 ✭✭✭Phoebas


    Atlantic Dawn wrote: »
    And this is why the accused should never be identified prior to a verdict being made.
    Dead right.
    She should get 5 years in jail.
    What!!! Aren't you just calling for a sentence prior to a verdict bring made?


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  • #7
    JupiterKid
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 12,887 Mod ✭✭✭✭JupiterKid


    False rape allegations - by both women and men - are absolutely horrific. Even if the accused are found innocent in a court of law, reputations and lives can be, and are, destroyed.

    Anyone convicted of making false rape/sexual assault allegations should face a custodial sentence.


  • #8
    Sephiroth_dude
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 80,754 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sephiroth_dude


    Mod

    Moving to CA


  • #9
    ILoveYourVibes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,202 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    Police sources said the woman is suspected of filing a false complaint against the Israelis because they filmed her during the sex acts without her permission.

    They are not exactly snow white.


  • #10
    TheValeyard
    Registered Users Posts: 12,713 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    There is nothing worse to a man than getting accused of rape or child abuse. False accusations need to be taken very seriously, without creating a culture where women wont actually make complaints against actual offences.

    All eyes on Kursk. Slava Ukraini.



  • #11
    Sonny noggs
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,523 ✭✭✭Sonny noggs


    ‘The Briton, who has not been named...’

    Seems fair.


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  • #12
    c.p.w.g.w
    Registered Users Posts: 4,994 ✭✭✭c.p.w.g.w


    Atlantic Dawn wrote: »
    And this is why the accused should never be identified prior to a verdict being made. Those men were marched infront of the media, reputations potentially destroyed. She should get 5 years in jail.

    Should get 5 years for each false allegation...so that's 60 years in total. Would send out a strong message


  • #13
    splinter65
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    ILoveYourVibes wrote: »
    They are not exactly snow white.

    Why? What did they do?


  • #14
    ILoveYourVibes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,202 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    splinter65 wrote: »
    Why? What did they do?


    They filmed it without her consent.


  • #15
    suicide_circus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    Sonny noggs wrote: »
    ‘The Briton, who has not been named...’

    Seems fair.

    were the lads named?


  • #16
    Eric Cartman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    What is it that makes some women be alright to consent to a sex act with multiple men except if somebody finds out then claim rape to save face.

    seems very similar to the paddy jackson case.


  • #17
    Sleeper12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,155 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    Eric Cartman wrote:
    seems very similar to the paddy jackson case.


    Must be a different paddy Jackson case that I read about. The one in Ireland didn't have any false allegations. There was never any suggestion that she made it up.


  • #18
    Varik
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,552 ✭✭✭✭Varik


    ILoveYourVibes wrote: »
    They filmed it without her consent.

    It either was filmed or it wasn't.

    Considering she claimed they filmed it while all 12 raped her or helped the others to, I'd say it's a good chance it didn't happen.

    That or it did, and in which case said video probably helped them.


  • #19
    ILoveYourVibes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,202 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    Varik wrote: »
    It either was filmed or it wasn't.

    Considering she claimed they filmed it while all 12 raped her or helped the others to, I'd say it's a good chance it didn't happen.

    That or it did, and in which case said video probably helped them.


    It was filmed.

    She wasn't raped.

    But she didn't agree or consent to be filmed naked or performing sexual acts. She was unaware of the camera. They didn't tell her.

    Thus they are hardly snow white.


  • #20
    Sleeper12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,155 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    Varik wrote:
    Considering she claimed they filmed it while all 12 raped her or helped the others to, I'd say it's a good chance it didn't happen.


    I agree.
    It seems that DNA went against her claims. This suggests to me that it didn't happen & wasn't recorded


  • #21
    splinter65
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    ILoveYourVibes wrote: »
    They filmed it without her consent.

    She says they filmed it without her consent.
    She also says they raped her.
    Why would anyone believe anything she says?


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  • #22
    splinter65
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    ILoveYourVibes wrote: »
    It was filmed.

    She wasn't raped.

    But she didn't agree or consent to be filmed naked or performing sexual acts. She was unaware of the camera. They didn't tell her.

    Thus they are hardly snow white.

    How do you know that she didn’t consent or she wasn’t aware of the camera?


  • #23
    ILoveYourVibes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,202 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    splinter65 wrote: »
    She says they filmed it without her consent.
    She also says they raped her.
    Why would anyone believe anything she says?
    They admit to filming it without her consent.


  • #24
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    ILoveYourVibes wrote: »
    They admit to filming it without her consent.
    Which is tosser territory but not the alleged crime.


  • #25
    splinter65
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    ILoveYourVibes wrote: »
    They admit to filming it without her consent.

    So what? No. I’m being serious. She agreed to group sex and then, instead of going to the Data Protection commissioner to make her complaint about a breach of privacy or whatever, she decides to allege that she was raped instead? Are you defending that?


  • #26
    Hobosan
    Registered Users Posts: 582 ✭✭✭Hobosan


    They were covering their asses by filming the orgy.


  • #27
    NKante
    Site Banned Posts: 297 ✭✭NKante


    Didn't similar happen to some Irish lads a few years ago? falsely accused if I recall.

    I would say in this case, thank god they did film the act, otherwise without that evidence they'd be banged up.

    Worth noting that there was glee in some quarters that these were Israelis. News spread like wildfire initially with the usual suspects trying to squeeze maximum propaganda out of this.

    I suspected it was bull**** from the start because it's not a very 'Israeli' thing to do. Especially a group of 12 boys. Unheard of really.

    There are certain news stories that just don't ring true and this was one. It's like if there was a news report that 10 Irish lads mugged an 80 year old French woman in Paris whilst on holiday. I'd be like....really? that doesn't sound like the lads. Suspicious.


  • #28
    Ronin247
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,256 ✭✭✭Ronin247


    ILoveYourVibes wrote: »
    They filmed it without her consent.


    One of them proved he wasn't even there.... but don't let the truth get in the way.


  • #29
    The Specialist
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,539 ✭✭✭The Specialist


    Disgusting but not unexpected - this is the era of metoo and “I believe her” after all. She should get the same sentence as a rapist times 12.


  • #30
    Sonny noggs
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,523 ✭✭✭Sonny noggs


    suicide_circus wrote: »
    were the lads named?

    Some were named, yes. Go looking, you will find them. Irrelevant, regardless.


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  • #31
    Sonny noggs
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,523 ✭✭✭Sonny noggs


    Sleeper12 wrote: »
    Must be a different paddy Jackson case that I read about. The one in Ireland didn't have any false allegations. There was never any suggestion that she made it up.

    But the accused were found not guilty, so as far as the court was concerned it wasn’t proven that the alleged incident actually occurred.


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