Woman convicted for false rape allegation against 12 men in Cyprus (Overturned in Jan22)

py2006 · 28-07-2019 2:38pm #1

British woman who accused 12 Israeli teens of gang-raping her in Cyprus is ARRESTED for 'making false allegations' and ALL the men who were arrested over the 'attack' are released.

What an awful thing to do. Mud sticks.

dennyire · 28-07-2019 2:52pm

In before Berties Horse

Atlantic Dawn · 28-07-2019 2:55pm

And this is why the accused should never be identified prior to a verdict being made. Those men were marched infront of the media, reputations potentially destroyed. She should get 5 years in jail.

Hego Damask · 28-07-2019 2:56pm

Throw the book at the lying slut

Plumbthedepths · 28-07-2019 3:00pm

The newspaper quoted in the OP shows the photo of some of the guys yet no photo of her.

Phoebas · 28-07-2019 3:02pm

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

And this is why the accused should never be identified prior to a verdict being made.

Dead right.

She should get 5 years in jail.

What!!! Aren't you just calling for a sentence prior to a verdict bring made?

JupiterKid · 28-07-2019 3:05pm

False rape allegations - by both women and men - are absolutely horrific. Even if the accused are found innocent in a court of law, reputations and lives can be, and are, destroyed.

Anyone convicted of making false rape/sexual assault allegations should face a custodial sentence.

Sephiroth_dude · 28-07-2019 4:59pm

Mod

Moving to CA

ILoveYourVibes · 28-07-2019 5:20pm

Police sources said the woman is suspected of filing a false complaint against the Israelis because they filmed her during the sex acts without her permission.

They are not exactly snow white.

TheValeyard · 28-07-2019 5:25pm

There is nothing worse to a man than getting accused of rape or child abuse. False accusations need to be taken very seriously, without creating a culture where women wont actually make complaints against actual offences.

Sonny noggs · 28-07-2019 5:30pm

‘The Briton, who has not been named...’

Seems fair.

c.p.w.g.w · 28-07-2019 5:36pm

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

And this is why the accused should never be identified prior to a verdict being made. Those men were marched infront of the media, reputations potentially destroyed. She should get 5 years in jail.

Should get 5 years for each false allegation...so that's 60 years in total. Would send out a strong message

splinter65 · 28-07-2019 5:40pm

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

They are not exactly snow white.

Why? What did they do?

ILoveYourVibes · 28-07-2019 6:03pm

splinter65 wrote: »

Why? What did they do?

They filmed it without her consent.

suicide_circus · 28-07-2019 6:09pm

Sonny noggs wrote: »

‘The Briton, who has not been named...’

Seems fair.

were the lads named?

Eric Cartman · 28-07-2019 6:11pm

What is it that makes some women be alright to consent to a sex act with multiple men except if somebody finds out then claim rape to save face.

seems very similar to the paddy jackson case.

Sleeper12 · 28-07-2019 6:38pm

Eric Cartman wrote:

seems very similar to the paddy jackson case.

Must be a different paddy Jackson case that I read about. The one in Ireland didn't have any false allegations. There was never any suggestion that she made it up.

Varik · 28-07-2019 6:38pm

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

They filmed it without her consent.

It either was filmed or it wasn't.

Considering she claimed they filmed it while all 12 raped her or helped the others to, I'd say it's a good chance it didn't happen.

That or it did, and in which case said video probably helped them.

ILoveYourVibes · 28-07-2019 6:39pm

Varik wrote: »

It either was filmed or it wasn't.

Considering she claimed they filmed it while all 12 raped her or helped the others to, I'd say it's a good chance it didn't happen.

That or it did, and in which case said video probably helped them.

It was filmed.

She wasn't raped.

But she didn't agree or consent to be filmed naked or performing sexual acts. She was unaware of the camera. They didn't tell her.

Thus they are hardly snow white.

Sleeper12 · 28-07-2019 6:40pm

Varik wrote:

Considering she claimed they filmed it while all 12 raped her or helped the others to, I'd say it's a good chance it didn't happen.

I agree.
It seems that DNA went against her claims. This suggests to me that it didn't happen & wasn't recorded

splinter65 · 28-07-2019 6:41pm

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

They filmed it without her consent.

She says they filmed it without her consent.
She also says they raped her.
Why would anyone believe anything she says?

splinter65 · 28-07-2019 6:43pm

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

It was filmed.

She wasn't raped.

But she didn't agree or consent to be filmed naked or performing sexual acts. She was unaware of the camera. They didn't tell her.

Thus they are hardly snow white.

How do you know that she didn’t consent or she wasn’t aware of the camera?

ILoveYourVibes · 28-07-2019 6:44pm

splinter65 wrote: »

She says they filmed it without her consent.
She also says they raped her.
Why would anyone believe anything she says?

They admit to filming it without her consent.

is_that_so · 28-07-2019 6:46pm

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

They admit to filming it without her consent.

Which is tosser territory but not the alleged crime.

splinter65 · 28-07-2019 6:47pm

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

They admit to filming it without her consent.

So what? No. I’m being serious. She agreed to group sex and then, instead of going to the Data Protection commissioner to make her complaint about a breach of privacy or whatever, she decides to allege that she was raped instead? Are you defending that?

Hobosan · 28-07-2019 6:49pm

They were covering their asses by filming the orgy.

NKante · 28-07-2019 6:49pm

Didn't similar happen to some Irish lads a few years ago? falsely accused if I recall.

I would say in this case, thank god they did film the act, otherwise without that evidence they'd be banged up.

Worth noting that there was glee in some quarters that these were Israelis. News spread like wildfire initially with the usual suspects trying to squeeze maximum propaganda out of this.

I suspected it was bull**** from the start because it's not a very 'Israeli' thing to do. Especially a group of 12 boys. Unheard of really.

There are certain news stories that just don't ring true and this was one. It's like if there was a news report that 10 Irish lads mugged an 80 year old French woman in Paris whilst on holiday. I'd be like....really? that doesn't sound like the lads. Suspicious.

Ronin247 · 28-07-2019 6:51pm

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

They filmed it without her consent.

One of them proved he wasn't even there.... but don't let the truth get in the way.

The Specialist · 28-07-2019 6:51pm

Disgusting but not unexpected - this is the era of metoo and “I believe her” after all. She should get the same sentence as a rapist times 12.

Sonny noggs · 28-07-2019 6:52pm

suicide_circus wrote: »

were the lads named?

Some were named, yes. Go looking, you will find them. Irrelevant, regardless.

Sonny noggs · 28-07-2019 6:54pm

Sleeper12 wrote: »

Must be a different paddy Jackson case that I read about. The one in Ireland didn't have any false allegations. There was never any suggestion that she made it up.

But the accused were found not guilty, so as far as the court was concerned it wasn’t proven that the alleged incident actually occurred.

The Specialist · 28-07-2019 6:58pm

Sonny noggs wrote: »

But the accused were found not guilty, so as far as the court was concerned it wasn’t proven that the alleged incident actually occurred.

Some people here have a hard time wrapping their tiny brains around a “not guilty” verdict - you can spot them a mile off how they talk about Jackson now.

ILoveYourVibes · 28-07-2019 7:01pm

Ronin247 wrote: »

One of them proved he wasn't even there.... but don't let the truth get in the way.

There is a video of it i am not surprised he could prove it!

the_syco · 28-07-2019 7:03pm

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

They are not exactly snow white.

One of the lads was in bed with his girlfriend at the time of the said "rape".

Who said that they had filmed her? Was it her?

NKante · 28-07-2019 7:10pm

the_syco wrote: »

One of the lads was in bed with his girlfriend at the time of the said "rape".

Who said that they had filmed her? Was it her?

Reading between the lines, it seems she was a bit promiscuous on holiday. She didn't want her parents knowing she was somewhat of a slut riding 3 men and worried about the photos/vids leaking.

So decided to make a false rape claim. She was apparently encouraged to make the claim by a friend.

Sleeper12 · 28-07-2019 7:13pm

Sonny noggs wrote:

But the accused were found not guilty, so as far as the court was concerned it wasnâ€™t proven that the alleged incident actually occurred.

If the DPP believes that she lied & brought false allegations then they would have charged her. In the Jackson case everyone was so drunk that none of their stories tallied. The jury had reasonable doubt.

You do realise that it's entirely possible for the claimant to believe that she didn't give consent & for the defendant to believe that he did have consent. The defendants apologised to the clainant after the case for the misunderstanding.

In the Jackson case no one, not even the defendants, has ever suggested that she lied.

In the case for this thread the girl lied about everything. One of guys she accused was in bed with his girlfriend at the time. Luckily for him they took a time stamped selfy while in bed.

These cases have absolutely nothing in common

Sonny noggs · 28-07-2019 7:21pm

Sleeper12 wrote: »

If the DPP believes that she lied & brought false allegations then they would have charged her. In the Jackson case everyone was so drunk that none of their stories tallied. The jury had reasonable doubt.

You do realise that it's entirely possible for the claimant to believe that she didn't give consent & for the defendant to believe that he did have consent. The defendants apologised to the clainant after the case for the misunderstanding.

In the Jackson case no one, not even the defendants, has ever suggested that she lied.

In the case for this thread the girl lied about everything. One of guys she accused was in bed with his girlfriend at the time. Luckily for him they took a time stamped selfy while in bed.

These cases have absolutely nothing in common

No idea why you responded to my post.

The Specialist · 28-07-2019 7:26pm

Sleeper12 wrote: »

If the DPP believes that she lied & brought false allegations then they would have charged her. In the Jackson case everyone was so drunk that none of their stories tallied. The jury had reasonable doubt.

You do realise that it's entirely possible for the claimant to believe that she didn't give consent & for the defendant to believe that he did have consent. The defendants apologised to the clainant after the case for the misunderstanding.

In the Jackson case no one, not even the defendants, has ever suggested that she lied.

In the case for this thread the girl lied about everything. One of guys she accused was in bed with his girlfriend at the time. Luckily for him they took a time stamped selfy while in bed.

These cases have absolutely nothing in common

A lie is a lie and one that has been decided as not guilty in front of a judge and jury is a ****ing lie. Stop your “what if” bull****.

Sleeper12 · 28-07-2019 7:26pm

Sonny noggs wrote: »

No idea why you responded to my post.

My Comment

Sleeper12 wrote: »

Must be a different paddy Jackson case that I read about. The one in Ireland didn't have any false allegations. There was never any suggestion that she made it up.

Your reply

Sonny noggs wrote: »

But the accused were found not guilty, so as far as the court was concerned it wasn’t proven that the alleged incident actually occurred.

I responded because one case has nothing to do with the other. There are no similarities between the cases at all

Sonny noggs · 28-07-2019 7:32pm

Sleeper12 wrote: »

My Comment

Your reply

I responded because one case has nothing to do with the other. There are no similarities between the cases at all

Fair enough. The allegations weren’t proven, so they could be deemed to have been false. Whether she lied or misremembered or imagined or whatever, the incident didn’t happen as she claimed it did.

Sham Squire · 28-07-2019 7:35pm

Amazing how rarely this happens but how passionate some men get when it does. I'm very wary of men who throw the word "slut" around with glee at any opportunity. Fact is, if you're actually sensitive to injustice, the amount of rape and sexual abuse done by men to women that doesn't even get to court should have your head exploding. Funny that...

Eric Cartman · 28-07-2019 7:36pm

Sham Squire wrote: »

Amazing how rarely this happens but how passionate some men get when it does. I'm very wary of men who throw the word "slut" around with glee at any opportunity. Fact is, if you're actually sensitive to injustice, the amount of rape and sexual abuse done by men to women that doesn't even get to court should have your head exploding. Funny that...

you should be even more outraged at the false claims since theyve led to that scenario.

The Specialist · 28-07-2019 7:38pm

Sham Squire wrote: »

Amazing how rarely this happens but how passionate some men get when it does. I'm very wary of men who throw the word "slut" around with glee at any opportunity. Fact is, if you're actually sensitive to injustice, the amount of rape and sexual abuse done by men to women that doesn't even get to court should have your head exploding. Funny that...

This is about false accusations - stop muddying the water and deflecting from it.

Sleeper12 · 28-07-2019 7:43pm

Sonny noggs wrote:

Fair enough. The allegations werenâ€™t proven, so they could be deemed to have been false. Whether she lied or misremembered or imagined or whatever, the incident didnâ€™t happen as she claimed it did.

That's not a true statement & that is not what the not guilty verdict means. The jury had reasonable doubt. Everyone had a different story. No two stories matched. The jury had to have reasonable doubt. This does not mean that the claimants testimony was false, a lie or misremembered. The not guilty verdict does not mean that she lied nor does it mean she didn't lie.

Below is a statement from Paddy Johnson

â€œI am ashamed that a young woman who was a visitor to my home left in a distressed state,â€ he said.

â€œThis was never my intention and I will always regret the events of that evening.â€

Sonny noggs · 28-07-2019 7:47pm

Sleeper12 wrote: »

That's not a true statement & that is not what the not guilty verdict means. The jury had reasonable doubt. Everyone had a different story. No two stories matched. The jury had to have reasonable doubt. This does not mean that the claimants testimony was false, a lie or misremembered. The not guilty verdict does not mean that she lied nor does it mean she didn't lie.

Below is a statement from Paddy Johnson

â€œI am ashamed that a young woman who was a visitor to my home left in a distressed state,â€ he said.

â€œThis was never my intention and I will always regret the events of that evening.â€

You are misinterpreting and misrepresenting the intent of his apology.

Ultimately the jury didn’t accept her claims, and they were found not guilty. You can use semantics to claim whatever you want, the incident didn’t occur as she claimed. End of story.

bloodless_coup · 28-07-2019 7:49pm

Sham Squire wrote: »

I'm very wary of men who throw the word "slut" around with glee at any opportunity.

So getting banged by up to 12 guys at once means she's not a slut?

Why do women think this kind of degeneracy is acceptable?

Galwayguy35 · 28-07-2019 7:50pm

Sham Squire wrote: »

Amazing how rarely this happens but how passionate some men get when it does. I'm very wary of men who throw the word "slut" around with glee at any opportunity. Fact is, if you're actually sensitive to injustice, the amount of rape and sexual abuse done by men to women that doesn't even get to court should have your head exploding. Funny that...

Well go start a thread about that then.

You might be whistling a different tune if it happened to yourself, those mens lives could have been ruined.

hetuzozaho · 28-07-2019 7:52pm

Sonny noggs wrote: »

the incident didn’t occur as she claimed.

How could you possibly know this?

Sonny noggs · 28-07-2019 7:55pm

hetuzozaho wrote: »

How could you possibly know this?

I accept the jury’s verdict. You clearly don’t.

NKante · 28-07-2019 7:56pm

doylefe wrote: »

So getting banged by up to 12 guys at once means she's not a slut?

Why do women think this kind of degeneracy is acceptable?

Because the left's culture war tells women that it's okay. Be just as degenerate as men.

One of the reasons why women are increasingly unhappy even in the most free societies, is because they've been sold this lie about not needing any man, not needing marriage or kids. Just go out and shag and be who you want to be.

So they end up alone in their 30's and 40's destined to become cat ladies and desperately unhappy.

It goes against basic biology. Women for the most part are meant to be choosy, are meant to marry/pair off and meant to have kids. That's what makes them fulfilled.

TCM · 28-07-2019 7:56pm

hetuzozaho wrote:

How could you possibly know this?

Check the online media.

Woman convicted for false rape allegation against 12 men in Cyprus (Overturned in Jan22)

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