Woman convicted for false rape allegation against 12 men in Cyprus (Overturned in Jan22)

jam_mac_jam · 29-07-2019 6:48pm

NKante wrote: »

Eric Cartman wrote: »

A bit what ? This just seems like a mad ramble , not every hot country has a police force like the films about turkey youre imagining. Every country has had a measure of police incompetence/corruption but Im not aware of any spanish or italian police stereotype as lazy/brutal or corrupt

Alright.

Name me a country in South America, Africa, the Middle East or Asia where you'd rather spend the night in jail than in Finland, Norway or England.

Case closed.

Japan

Eric Cartman · 29-07-2019 6:50pm

jam_mac_jam wrote: »

Japan

id look that up, its really not better.
https://gaijinass.com/2017/03/30/brutal-realities-of-prison-in-japan/

mcmoustache · 29-07-2019 6:52pm

NKante wrote: »

You know what it's like, the Spanish cops, the Italians.....all a bit....you know

...prone to conspiring with terrorist groups to bomb civilians? Stitching up scapegoats?

NKante · 29-07-2019 6:54pm

jam_mac_jam wrote: »

Japan

Just image searched. Don't fancy it.

It's not Sushi and Sake mate.

Whereas jail in Norway is better than most of the hotels you'd book.

mcmoustache · 29-07-2019 6:55pm

NKante wrote: »

Am I the only one that knows Spanish police are a bit...you know

Someone else back me up here

Which ones? There are multiple types of police in Spain, each with their own levels of professionalism and violence.

mcmoustache · 29-07-2019 6:56pm

Eric Cartman wrote: »

id look that up, its really not better.
https://gaijinass.com/2017/03/30/brutal-realities-of-prison-in-japan/

Yeah, if you're a suspect over there, you're as good as guilty. Our system isn't great but I'll take it over theirs any day.

meeeeh · 29-07-2019 6:57pm

I think French consider Irish a bit of cowboys. They even held their own trial when Irish wouldn't. British police has great reputation unless you are Irish, Liverpudlian or poor.

To be clear I know nothing about policing in Cyprus. I presume it happened on Greek part but I suspect I still know more than some geniuses commenting on this thread. I would be at least able to locate Cyprus on the map.

ltd440 · 29-07-2019 7:36pm

NKante wrote: »

Eric Cartman wrote: »

I wont fault that but you shifted from spain and italy.... if your claim was the cloumbian police are a bit 'you know' id get that, no question, but what about the italians ?

Ever been to football abroad? the Spanish and Italian police are known for having a penchant to use their truncheon on one's head.

Everyone knows Mediterraneans are a bit mental. Try dating a Greek girl.

Am I the only one that knows Spanish police are a bit...you know

Someone else back me up here

A story from the last champions league final of a Liverpool fan who was on his own having a Spanish cop coming up to him and just taking his ticket!

Fann Linn · 29-07-2019 7:41pm

mcmoustache wrote: »

...prone to conspiring with terrorist groups to bomb civilians? Stitching up scapegoats?

The RUC are disbanded.

Duffy the Vampire Slayer · 31-07-2019 2:24am

NKante wrote: »

It's all the hot countries that are a bit mental

Yes, Australian cops are notoriously corrupt. It's because of the heat. Meanwhile, North Korean cops are trustworthy because of the cold winters.

py2006 · 31-07-2019 10:47am

You don't have to go to far to find corruption within authorities.

Reviews and Books Galore · 05-08-2019 5:34pm

I do feel slightly bad for her on one level. I'm not sure what's going on with her, but it's pretty bad if she made a false allegation.

Although, I wonder were they under age and she was trying to get them to delete the video?

Quantum Erasure · 16-10-2019 8:01pm

so this is back in the news...

A British teenager accused of lying about being raped has said her statement withdrawing the claims was "not in proper English" and there was "no way" she would have written it, told the court that police forced her to make the statement.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-50072902

Her lawyers say she was told what to write by Cypriot police, led by Detective Sergeant Marios Christou, and the teenager made the statement fearing she would be kidnapped or killed.

"It doesn't make grammatical sense," the teenager said.

"All the way through there isn't one sentence an English person would write."

James Brown · 16-10-2019 8:10pm

If this proves to be the case, good luck getting any of those lads out of Israel.

Reviews and Books Galore · 16-10-2019 9:47pm

Quantum Erasure wrote: »

so this is back in the news...

A British teenager accused of lying about being raped has said her statement withdrawing the claims was "not in proper English" and there was "no way" she would have written it, told the court that police forced her to make the statement.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-50072902

Wasn't there video evidence of some kind and some of the participants were underage in British law?

Varik · 16-10-2019 10:41pm

Lying through her teeth

Franz Von Peppercorn II · 16-10-2019 10:56pm

Making a false allegation about 12 people would be unusual.

Reviews and Books Galore · 17-10-2019 10:24am

I wonder what would have happened if this happened in Britain or the boys weren't Israeli? I wonder how they would have been treated if they were refugees or something?

Tbh, I can only think of two options why (if she is lying and I do believe she is based on video evidence (Which I have not seen) and the fact that one of the assailants wasn't even in the room) she would double down.

1) The Israeli boys are apparently going for blood in regards to civil actions.

2) They maye be underage as the cyprus age of consent is 17.

Boggles · 17-10-2019 11:07am

Reviews and Books Galore wrote: »

I wonder what would have happened if this happened in Britain or the boys weren't Israeli? I wonder how they would have been treated if they were refugees or something?

You wonder some strange things lad, TBF.

What if they were Martians?

Reviews and Books Galore wrote: »

Tbh, I can only think of two options why (if she is lying and I do believe she is based on video evidence (Which I have not seen).

You personally think she is lying based on video evidence, video evidence you haven't seen?

That seems legit.

Reviews and Books Galore · 17-10-2019 11:15am

Boggles wrote: »

You wonder some strange things lad, TBF.

What if they were Martians?

You personally think she is lying based on video evidence, video evidence you haven't seen?

That seems legit.

Boggles, you should really review this case and I will not be replying to any of your posts in the future.

Boggles · 17-10-2019 11:16am

Reviews and Books Galore wrote: »

Boggles, you should really review this case and I will not be replying to any of your posts in the future.

I did and fair play to you.

Reviews and Books Galore · 17-10-2019 3:03pm

God, the information from this case is really odd. She said she was afraid to call the British police because she was afraid of getting kidnapped and murdered by the corrupt cyprus police? The statement is in greek English?

Imo, she really isn't doing herself any favors in the newest statements.

CinemaGuy45 · 17-10-2019 10:07pm

NKante wrote: »

Reading between the lines, it seems she was a bit promiscuous on holiday. She didn't want her parents knowing she was somewhat of a slut riding 3 men and worried about the photos/vids leaking.

So decided to make a false rape claim. She was apparently encouraged to make the claim by a friend.

Somewhat.:mad:

Total would have been the correct word here.;)

screamer · 17-10-2019 10:25pm

Yuck imagine her parents having to read that. 12 guys..... unreal and not in a good way.

CinemaGuy45 · 17-10-2019 10:27pm

screamer wrote: »

Yuck imagine her parents having to read that. 12 guys..... unreal and not in a good way.

I am not a fan of Israel and I was one of those who highlighted this story but I can admit I was wrong here.

The book should be thrown at the dirty cow.

Reviews and Books Galore · 17-10-2019 10:38pm

NKante wrote: »

Reading between the lines, it seems she was a bit promiscuous on holiday. She didn't want her parents knowing she was somewhat of a slut riding 3 men and worried about the photos/vids leaking.

So decided to make a false rape claim. She was apparently encouraged to make the claim by a friend.

Her friend was actually a psychology grad and I would never want that person anywhere near a person in need.

Reviews and Books Galore · 02-11-2019 3:00pm

Yeah, I've been following this as it may serve a benchmark for possible false alegations. Kind of an odd development.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7640355/British-woman-accused-faking-gang-rape-claim-Cyprus-hallucinations-voices-head.html

This, correct me if I'm wrong, is from a psychologist for a current evaluation and not a past evaluation. Very, very odd tbh.

suicide_circus · 07-01-2020 4:58pm

Well the girl in question got a 4 month suspended sentence so can go home to her family now.

if the whatsapp videos doing the rounds are real then there was only ever going to be this outcome.

thequarefellow · 07-01-2020 7:13pm

suicide_circus wrote: »

if the whatsapp videos doing the rounds are real then there was only ever going to be this outcome.

What do you mean?

Sam Quentin · 07-01-2020 7:21pm

It's a disgusting sad video. She was used and abused. I'd like to know if she has alcohol on board,if so then she was basically raped!?

thequarefellow · 07-01-2020 7:40pm

This case may not be as clear cut as many on here would like to think. She retracted her initial statement after being 'questioned' by Cypriot police for seven hours without a lawyer present (Imagine the horror of her situation if indeed she was raped). The Cypriot government has a vested interest in portraying the island as a place where holidaying tourists do not get gang raped.
Watch the Amanda Knox documentary on Netflix for an insight into how a corrupt prosecution and a vile misogynistic media turned an innocent woman into a sex crazed murderer and robbed her of four years of her life and led to a whole generation of people jumping to the wrong conclusion.

py2006 · 07-01-2020 7:56pm

thequarefellow wrote: »

Watch the Amanda Knox documentary on Netflix for an insight into how a corrupt prosecution and a vile misogynistic media turned an innocent woman into a sex crazed murderer and robbed her of four years of her life and led to a whole generation of people jumping to the wrong conclusion.

Knox is an odd one. Its her eyes. I was glad she was acquitted but I had some doubts about her.

str8talkingguy · 07-01-2020 9:08pm

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

I am not a fan of Israel and I was one of those who highlighted this story but I can admit I was wrong here.

The book should be thrown at the dirty cow.

Are these guys dirty too? surprised some of the abuse she received here called a slut by someone else are the guys sluts too?

Whether she was willing on the night or not,she was used and abused and there is consequences for any womans mental state getting video taped being used by 12 men,even if she willingly albeit while drunk went along with it there is gonna be consequences for her mental state when she sobers up.

Ridiculous the calls for her to be jailed she didn't make the rape claim for any personal benefit,no doubt most women who get used by 12 men while drunk will feel raped when they sober up.

Ironicname · 07-01-2020 9:26pm

str8talkingguy wrote:

Ridiculous the calls for her to be jailed she didn't make the rape claim for any personal benefit,no doubt most women who get used by 12 men while drunk will feel raped when they sober up.

Gets used? She used their penises too. **** this women are victims culture. She had consensual sex and then regretted it and cried rape.

Ironicname · 07-01-2020 9:27pm

Sam Quentin wrote:

It's a disgusting sad video. She was used and abused. I'd like to know if she has alcohol on board,if so then she was basically raped!?

She looked as though she enjoyed it and was a willing participant. "Basically raped". Ffs.

thequarefellow · 07-01-2020 9:30pm

Ironicname wrote: »

She looked as though she enjoyed it and was a willing participant. "Basically raped". Ffs.

You were there?

banie01 · 07-01-2020 9:32pm

thequarefellow wrote: »

You were there?

I'd hazard a guess that they are referring to Whatsapp videos doing the round that are allegedly of the incident.

thequarefellow · 07-01-2020 9:36pm

banie01 wrote: »

I'd hazard a guess that they are referring to Whatsapp videos doing the round that are allegedly of the incident.

That was kinda my point. Assumptions based on a video clip doing the rounds. It may not even portray the actual event, it certainly doesn't capture the event in its entirety.

Effects · 07-01-2020 9:38pm

suicide_circus wrote: »

if the whatsapp videos doing the rounds are real

They probably aren't real though.

Ironicname · 07-01-2020 9:40pm

thequarefellow wrote:

You were there?

You weren't either. I'm going on visual evidence and a court judgement.

What are you basing your opinion on?

str8talkingguy · 07-01-2020 9:57pm

Ironicname wrote: »

She looked as though she enjoyed it and was a willing participant. "Basically raped". Ffs.

I understand your point,i didn't see the video but just because she looked like she was enjoying it at the time doesn't mean there isn't mental repercussions when she sobers up.

You only have to look through this thread shes been called a slut and a dirty cow,so for the woman that seemingly enjoyed it,when she sobers up shes the slut and dirty and they are just players and studs.Shes the loser when she wakes up no matter how much fun she had.

As men its unlikely to be used by 12 women so the feeling is unique to women and gay men who get used by groups of men,but every person that gets used like this is always insecure weak and vulnerable so while it might not be illegal you have to understand that a secure confident strong woman would not willingly allow this to happen.Its only the weak so shes vulnerable to start with so its not really a surprise that they make false accusations and the accused in cases like this are never whiter than whiter.

thequarefellow · 07-01-2020 9:59pm

Ironicname wrote: »

You weren't either. I'm going on visual evidence and a court judgement.

What are you basing your opinion on?

I don't have an opinion on her guilt. I suggested that the truth of the situation might come out over time and that people should keep an open mind in that regard before labelling the girl as a dishonest slut. She was not allowed a lawyer during her interrogation and neither was it recorded. The Cypriot police have a history of misogynistic behaviour such that local Cypriot women have come out in support of the girl. Their investigations into the event were not exactly exemplary either - hotel guests that booked into the room after the event found a used condom.

Ironicname · 07-01-2020 10:03pm

str8talkingguy wrote:

You only have to look through this thread shes been called a slut and a dirty cow,so for the woman that seemingly enjoyed it,when she sobers up shes the slut and dirty and they are just players and studs.Shes the loser when she wakes up no matter how much fun she had.

If she was a willing participant, it doesn't matter if she regretted it after the fact.

If she was willing, even after a few drinks, she can't claim her bad decision was a rape.

Ironicname · 07-01-2020 10:05pm

thequarefellow wrote:

I don't have an opinion on her guilt. I suggested that the truth of the situation might come out over time and that people should keep an open mind in that regard before labelling the girl as a dishonest slut. She was not allowed a lawyer during her interrogation and neither was it recorded. The Cypriot police have a history of misogynistic behaviour such that local Cypriot women have come out in support of the girl. Their investigations into the event were not exactly exemplary either - hotel guests that booked into the room after the event found a used condom.

Cool. Someone found guilty shouldn't be guilty because you never know then?

I suppose you hold that true for men who have been found guilty of rape?

str8talkingguy · 07-01-2020 10:22pm

Bondyield wrote: »

I think people underestimate how many women enjoy group sex and to the extent that they get a thrill from it.

Its common nowadays no doubt about it,but you should ask yourself next time is this woman a strong secure confident woman they never are.And i don't doubt how much they enjoy it at the time it feels so real right,it looks so real.Marry a woman that gets used regularly like this and see how it affects them no matter how much they enjoy it on the night,unpopular opinion in the modern liberalized world but you will learn it eventually.

thequarefellow · 07-01-2020 10:25pm

Ironicname wrote: »

Cool. Someone found guilty shouldn't be guilty because you never know then?

I suppose you hold that true for men who have been found guilty of rape?

I just don't think people should revel in her guilt. Neither she nor the boys involved come away from this in a good light.

Moghead · 07-01-2020 10:29pm

If the men involved put their phones away while all this happened she may not have made an accusation at all. I can't understand why they'd record it to be honest? Are there lads out there who would get off on watching their friends having sex?

str8talkingguy · 07-01-2020 10:31pm

Bondyield wrote: »

For all you know your girlfriend/wife if you have one has participated in orgies and you're none the wiser.

Kinda neither here nor there point,maybe she did and i knew,or maybe i got more life experience than you,you will learn it eventually but a lot of pain will come your way first believe me it will just take time,But it comes to us all.

ChikiChiki · 07-01-2020 10:37pm

I must live a very sheltered life with all these supposed orgies going on.

eyerer · 07-01-2020 10:46pm

Moghead wrote: »

If the men involved put their phones away while all this happened she may not have made an accusation at all. I can't understand why they'd record it to be honest? Are there lads out there who would get off on watching their friends having sex?

Or they might have ended up in jail..

Woman convicted for false rape allegation against 12 men in Cyprus (Overturned in Jan22)

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