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Mitsubishi to quit Europe?

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  • #52
    colm_mcm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,478 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    Yep. Didn’t think anyone would notice!


  • #53
    listermint
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,107 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    road_high wrote: »
    Unlike rover MG, Mitsubishi despite what people may say are pretty reliable cars overall so that would stand to them

    but their parts prices are laughable compared to other marques. Thats if you can get parts in any amount of quick time.


  • #54
    Thierry12
    Closed Accounts Posts: 979 ✭✭✭Thierry12


    TommyGrealy wrote: »
    This news concerns me as I just put a 1K deposit down on an Outlander PHEV 10 days ago. Am I now going to have problems with Servicing, Parts etc? Are there many independent garages / mechanics who can service PHEVs? Appreciate any advice. Thanks

    Warranty work?

    PHEV's are a complicated mess if something goes wrong

    I'd be cancelling or buying a used one in the UK

    Madness to pay over €40,000 for one right now

    Have you looked at the new Kuga PHEV?

    Toyota will have a much superior RAV4 PHEV next year


  • #55
    RandomViewer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,191 ✭✭✭RandomViewer


    E mac wrote: »
    I'd honestly forgotten Daihatsu existed.

    Fourtrak was around for years, Charade was a great wee toy with 1 litre diesel, they even made a saloon for a while. Terios probably the last vehicle they sold


  • #56
    road_high
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,480 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    RandomViewer wrote: »
    Fourtrak was around for years, Charade was a great wee toy with 1 litre diesel, they even made a saloon for a while. Terios probably the last vehicle they sold

    We had one (Charade) - great reliability and economy. Fully part of Toyota now I think, they've the Yaris and Aygo, Lan Cruiser in Europe filling those spaces.


  • #57
    E mac
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 404 ✭✭E mac


    RandomViewer wrote: »
    Fourtrak was around for years, Charade was a great wee toy with 1 litre diesel, they even made a saloon for a while. Terios probably the last vehicle they sold

    Ya had a teacher in secondary who drove a charade and the local vet at that time drove a fortrak it looked kinda cool at that time....he now has a Kuga.


  • #58
    4068ac1elhodqr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    Sign of the times, Telsa (in very little time) overtook Toyota's total stock worth.
    Shares of Tesla gained 5% to hit a new all-time high of $1,135, giving the company a valuation of roughly $206.5 billion, compared with Toyota's valuation of about $202 billion.

    The future of transport is ai tech wizardary that will shout at you if you take your eyes off the road (assuming human control of vehicle) for more than a few seconds, and grass you up with IOT relays to the nearest 5G street camera if you pick your nose, or your face isn't registered to drive.

    The uk's new HD cams will slap 6pts and £200 note fine on you for simply touching a phone. These AI cams have already snatched 100,000 down in Aus, within 6mths. Cha-ching!


  • #59
    road_high
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,480 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    Jayda Itchy Tutti-frutti wrote: »
    Sign of the times, Telsa (in very little time) overtook Toyota's total stock worth.


    The future of transport is ai tech wizardary that will shout at you if you take your eyes off the road (assuming human control of vehicle) for more than a few seconds, and grass you up with IOT relays to the nearest 5G street camera if you pick your nose, or your face isn't registered to drive.

    The uk's new HD cams will slap 6pts and £200 note fine on you for simply touching a phone. These AI cams have already snatched 100,000 down in Aus, within 6mths. Cha-ching!

    Cars and transport technology are indeed on a cusp of major change. Technology companies will be more involved I reckon rather than traditional car companies or a combination of.
    Though Covid may give a temporary boost to car ownership and use. They're perfect self isolation pods really.


  • #60
    4068ac1elhodqr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    road_high wrote: »
    Cars and transport technology are indeed on a cusp of major change. Technology companies will be more involved I reckon rather than traditional car companies or a combination of.
    Though Covid may give a temporary boost to car ownership and use. They're perfect self isolation pods really.
    Kinda, but only if they've got somewhere to go, in pre-Covid offices that (used) to be packed solid, even highly skilled roles can suffer from some Karen in Accounts deciding to microwave fish, and return to a packed out shared open space of 80+ desks.

    Perfect for pods, would be a 10min cross-country zoom on hyperloop, interiors lit up with low wattage UV-C.


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  • #61
    GavMan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,920 ✭✭✭GavMan


    Bit sad really. My old man had a Lancer consistently from around 1988 till 2001 with the exception of a beautiful white Gallant in 1990. Particular highlight was a gorgeous wine 92 Lancer and a green 98 Lancer (that model with the chrome T shaped front grille). Thought it was class.

    Farewell to them. Always fancied a souped up mid 90's Colt


  • #62
    Fabio
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,262 ✭✭✭Fabio


    GavMan wrote: »
    Bit sad really. My old man had a Lancer consistently from around 1988 till 2001 with the exception of a beautiful white Gallant in 1990. Particular highlight was a gorgeous wine 92 Lancer and a green 98 Lancer (that model with the chrome T shaped front grille). Thought it was class.

    Farewell to them. Always fancied a souped up mid 90's Colt

    Lancers were great cars.


  • #63
    Cookie_Monster
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,522 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    Thierry12 wrote: »

    Madness to pay over €40,000 for one right now

    Thats 70k nzd straight exchange, they're $58k list here!
    Do hybrid not have lower VRT these days, that price is crazy high if so


  • #64
    murphyebass
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,553 ✭✭✭murphyebass


    My friends dad had a Galant back in the day. The 2ltr petrol one. I remember thinking at the time it was fast as I was used to being in my dads Corolla.

    Nice car to look at even to this day imo. Rare to find one never mind one in good nick.
    .


  • #65
    Tom1991
    Registered Users Posts: 461 ✭✭Tom1991


    Bit of a shame but literally nothing has grabbed me by them for a long time bit like honda honestly.

    I had a 00 1.3 glx colt with a wooden looking trim on the inside i had it about 12 years did 200,000 miles in it around ireand and loved every bit of it was a fun go kart experience.When i scrapped it to rust issues last year i was actually emotional over letting it go.

    We'll see things go the way of android vs iphone alot of generic looking cars all the same but slightly different design wise


  • #66
    Cookie_Monster
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,522 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    Here's my new (to me, dec17) Triton :)
    5th best selling car in NZ last year too
    521400.jpg


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  • #67
    Mad_maxx
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,503 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    Cookie_Monster wrote: »
    Here's my new (to me, dec17) Triton :)
    5th best selling car in NZ last year too
    521400.jpg

    Is that a pick up?


  • #68
    zilog_jones
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,638 ✭✭✭zilog_jones


    3d4life wrote: »
    Those would be from Mitsubishi Heavy Industries rather than Mitsi-motors.

    Anyone know what does Mitsubishi mean in Japanese ?

    :confused:

    Perhaps its a common name like Murphy is here ?

    Murphy Motors
    Murphy Heavy Industries
    Murphy Electric Co.

    :p

    It's not a family name, it's like "three diamonds" (or water caltrops, considered diamond-shaped).

    It's a keiretsu, the companies are linked in various ways but each one is an autonomous publicly trading corporation.

    Mitsubishi Motors are about one third owned by Nissan these days.

    There's also Mitsubishi Fuso Truck and Bus Corporation, who make the Canter trucks sold here, and are majority owned by Daimler but separate from Mitsubishi Motors (MMC). They used to be "Mitsubishi" branded here but are now just "Fuso" (but with the three diamond badge). So they're not affected by any of this announcement.

    Confusingly there's the Mitsubishi Pencil Company who make Uni-ball pens - they're not related to Mitsubishi Group in any way, even though they use the same three-diamond logo (maybe only in Japan).


  • #69
    Skylinehead
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,690 ✭✭✭✭Skylinehead


    zilog_jones wrote: »
    It's not a family name, it's like "three diamonds" (or water caltrops, considered diamond-shaped).

    It's a keiretsu, the companies are linked in various ways but each one is an autonomous publicly trading corporation.

    Mitsubishi Motors are about one third owned by Nissan these days.

    There's also Mitsubishi Fuso Truck and Bus Corporation, who make the Canter trucks sold here, and are majority owned by Daimler but separate from Mitsubishi Motors (MMC). They used to be "Mitsubishi" branded here but are now just "Fuso" (but with the three diamond badge). So they're not affected by any of this announcement.

    Confusingly there's the Mitsubishi Pencil Company who make Uni-ball pens - they're not related to Mitsubishi Group in any way, even though they use the same three-diamond logo (maybe only in Japan).

    Don't forget the Zero!

    Might be going a bit far back there though :D


  • #70
    Oops!
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,274 ✭✭✭Oops!


    I had a Mitsubushi tv one time....


  • #71
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 24,714 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Mad_maxx wrote: »
    Is that a pick up?

    It’s an L200 I think, named differently.

    Never got the pessimism around pickups in Ireland they are massively popular as family cars elsewhere and most of what’s said about them being uncomfortable, bad to drive etc is wide of the mark in my opinion.


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  • #72
    Tabnabs
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,751 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    Worked on a Mitsubishi built ship one time. We had Mitsubishi pencils too.

    Like Nokia, they have their fingers in all sorts of pies.


  • #73
    punisher5112
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    Oops! wrote: »
    I had a Mitsubushi tv one time....

    They were actually very good and the air con units too....


  • #74
    bazz26
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,295 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    Oops! wrote: »
    I had a Mitsubushi tv one time....

    Their Black Diamond Audio Visual brand was sold off to a Turkish company about 20 or so years ago so any black diamond tv you would bought in that time wasn't a Mitsubishi.


  • #75
    Mad_maxx
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,503 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    Diego Puny Somersault wrote: »
    It’s an L200 I think, named differently.

    Never got the pessimism around pickups in Ireland they are massively popular as family cars elsewhere and most of what’s said about them being uncomfortable, bad to drive etc is wide of the mark in my opinion.

    I've driven them all ,they range from horrible to average, none are comfortable compared to even a landcruiser which is average comfortable relative to a discovery

    The Ford Ranger is the pick of the pickups


  • #76
    listermint
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,107 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Diego Puny Somersault wrote: »
    It’s an L200 I think, named differently.

    Never got the pessimism around pickups in Ireland they are massively popular as family cars elsewhere and most of what’s said about them being uncomfortable, bad to drive etc is wide of the mark in my opinion.

    pessimism ?

    Nothing to do with Pessimism everything to do with our Tax and Insurance systems. These things are deemed commercial use only by all and assunder.

    Nothing to do with ordinary folks not wanting one.


  • #77
    Oops!
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,274 ✭✭✭Oops!


    It's the same with a 4x4's here like them... you wouldn't see as many commercial ones anywhere else... As stated above due to our crazy road tax system.


  • #78
    zilog_jones
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,638 ✭✭✭zilog_jones


    Skylinehead wrote: »
    Don't forget the Zero!

    Might be going a bit far back there though :D

    That would be Mitsubishi Heavy Industries, the forklift people :)

    They still make aircraft today, and a lot of military stuff. Mitsubishi Motors was part of MHI until 1970.


  • #79
    Stallingrad
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,190 ✭✭✭Stallingrad


    So Mitsubishi is pulling out of Europe, another victim of the quickly changing market, no big partnerships and the swing to EV.

    Can't say they will be missed, the popular Outlander would not be given the time of day but for its PHEV drivetrain, and it past glories are a LONG time in the past.

    The fact that it is not being discussed here says it all.

    Not easy running a car company these days.


  • #80
    Man with broke phone
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,201 ✭✭✭Man with broke phone


    Can we clarify that mitsubishi that make the cars are completely different from mitsubishi who make the air conditioning and mitsubishi who make the ecstasy tablets.
    Is it true that it is just a name like Murphy or Clarke and the different companies have nothing to do with each other?

    So mitsubishi heavy industries will not even care about mitsubishi cars going bust unless his wife works there?


  • #81
    E mac
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 404 ✭✭E mac


    This has already got a thread....
    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2058099685


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  • #82
    bigroad
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,159 ✭✭✭bigroad


    I thought Mitsubishi was a place in Japan.
    The Gallant was a decent machine and the early pajero was up there with the best,in its day.


  • #83
    bazz26
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,295 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    If you don't move with the times then you will be left behind. Mitsubishi were a good seller here in the 1980s and early 1990s. Time has moved on but Mitsubishi didn't. Selling vehicles designed for developing markets or constantly refreshing the same old designs was never going to be successful in Europe where they were up against more modern and better designed models home grown models was never a clever business model. While Mitsubishi might officially only be leaving Europe now, they technically left a long time ago.


  • #84
    YellowBucket
    Closed Accounts Posts: 491 ✭✭YellowBucket


    They never really localised for Europe considering what Pajero means in Iberian Spanish!
    Rhymes with banker, begins with W.


  • #85
    Stallingrad
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,190 ✭✭✭Stallingrad


    Eric Cartman wrote: »
    Ireland really has moved beyond Mazda, Subaru or Mitsubishi being viable here.

    Whatever about the other two Mazda produce some fantastic cars, yet we continue to opt for German cookie cutter cars, pity.


  • #86
    Stallingrad
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,190 ✭✭✭Stallingrad


    E mac wrote: »
    This has already got a thread....
    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2058099685


    Missed that, cheers.


  • #87
    Cee-Jay-Cee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,235 ✭✭✭✭Cee-Jay-Cee


    Not surprised nor disappointed. I only buy Japanese cars however Mitsubishi wouldn’t even be a consideration when choosing a car. They don’t offer anything I’d even be remotely interested in. Nissan are the same. For the last decade or more Mitsubishi and Nissan have made the dullest most bland boring cars ever, Dacias were more attractive due to their no frills and lack of options but with Mitsubishi and Nissan you had to pay extra and still have nothing for your money.

    I can’t say I’m sorry and I honestly couldn’t care less.


  • #88
    E mac
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 404 ✭✭E mac


    I think the downfall of Mitsubishi started back when they ended production of the Galant a car a class above the lancer and replaced it with the Carisma a car no bigger than the lancer. If ever a car was the opposite of its name the carisma was it.


  • #89
    RandomViewer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,191 ✭✭✭RandomViewer


    E mac wrote: »
    I think the downfall of Mitsubishi started back when they ended production of the Galant a car a class above the lancer and replaced it with the Carisma a car no bigger than the lancer. If ever a car was the opposite of its name the carisma was it.

    Gallant made long after the Carisma was gone, Carisma was really a Renault


  • #90
    ba_barabus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,617 ✭✭✭ba_barabus


    RandomViewer wrote: »
    Gallant made long after the Carisma was gone, Carisma was really a Renault

    Volvo S40 I think


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  • #91
    bazz26
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,295 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    The Carisma and S40 shared the same running gear, only the 1.9 diesel in both was from Renault.


  • #92
    colm_mcm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,478 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    Carisma started out as a sort of Avensis rival, when that didn’t work, and the Lancer was nearing retirement, they stuck the 1.3 engine/box out of the Space Star (Which was also built in NedCar) into it and dropped the price.


  • #93
    fonecrusher1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,702 ✭✭✭fonecrusher1


    murphyebass wrote: »
    My friends dad had a Galant back in the day. The 2ltr petrol one. I remember thinking at the time it was fast as I was used to being in my dads Corolla.

    Nice car to look at even to this day imo. Rare to find one never mind one in good nick.
    .

    I always thought the 1996 to 2000+ Mitsubishi Galant was an absolute cracker. Lovely shape to them, similarish to the 90's 5 series. Much better looking than the Accord, Camry or 626. And the VR4 version although a very rare sight was a beast.

    [IMG]https://i.ibb.co/nMWhs6m/mitgalantsport20-750-500-70.jpg&quot; alt="mitgalantsport20-750-500-70" border="0"></a>[/IMG]


  • #94
    CJhaughey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,907 ✭✭✭✭CJhaughey


    fonecrusher1 wrote: »
    I always thought the 1996 to 2000+ Mitsubishi Galant was an absolute cracker. Lovely shape to them, similarish to the 90's 5 series. Much better looking than the Accord, Camry or 626. And the VR4 version although a very rare sight was a beast.

    [IMG]https://i.ibb.co/nMWhs6m/mitgalantsport20-750-500-70.jpg&quot; alt="mitgalantsport20-750-500-70" border="0"></a>[/IMG]

    They were a cracker of a car, unfortunately they also had manual gearboxes made from digestive biscuits.


  • #95
    colm_mcm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,478 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    The interiors of them were pretty dull too. Nearly bought a turbo diesel one years ago. Friend had a VR-G which was basically a VR4 lookalike with the GDI engine.


  • #96
    zilog_jones
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,638 ✭✭✭zilog_jones


    Weren't those GDI engines problematic too?


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  • #97
    colm_mcm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,478 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    Yes. Same as all early direct injection engines, they had carbon build up problems.


  • #98
    Mad_maxx
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,503 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    Working in New Zealand circa 1998 and bought myself a mid 1980,s Mazda 626 ,Japanese import ,electric Windows, beautiful interior, the mitsubishi
    Alternative was pretty uninspiring back then too ,think they had a colt saloon down under as i don't remember seeing the lancer ?


  • #99
    wonski
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,685 ✭✭✭✭wonski


    Looking at the posts it is clear Mitsubishi is already gone here.

    Most only remember the 90's and early 200x.

    Lancer I just remember from the rallies, Galant was a great design.

    I liked Colt - the earlier generation.

    Let's be honest the brand won't be missed. Offered nothing interesting in last decade.


  • #100
    Mad_maxx
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,503 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    wonski wrote: »
    Looking at the posts it is clear Mitsubishi is already gone here.

    Most only remember the 90's and early 200x.

    Lancer I just remember from the rallies, Galant was a great design.

    I liked Colt - the earlier generation.

    Let's be honest the brand won't be missed. Offered nothing interesting in last decade.

    Even the 4wd pajero ( which sold pretty well) was really old hat compared to it's off roader rival's


  • #101
    RandomViewer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,191 ✭✭✭RandomViewer


    Mad_maxx wrote: »
    Working in New Zealand circa 1998 and bought myself a mid 1980,s Mazda 626 ,Japanese import ,electric Windows, beautiful interior, the mitsubishi
    Alternative was pretty uninspiring back then too ,think they had a colt saloon down under as i don't remember seeing the lancer ?

    Colt saloon is the Lancer


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