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Journalism and Cycling 2: the difficult second album

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  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 26,399 Mod ✭✭✭✭Peregrine


    It's an annual stupidity test, not a speed test.

    For more realistic stats on speeding, see the RSA Free Speed Survey.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 48,330 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    looks like policing helmet laws in australia is going slightly absurd; spotted on twitter:

    https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/cycling-without-a-helmet-in-these-suburbs-the-quickest-route-to-police-search-20200514-p54svz.html


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,868 ✭✭✭cletus


    Interesting read. What I'd really like to know is how Mr. Nic Dow got his helmet wearing exemption


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 48,330 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    and so was (potentially) borne an uneasy alliance.
    you can bet your ass verona would have her eye on ross's job.

    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/simon-coveney-contacts-verona-murphy-for-coalition-talks-39229462.html


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,446 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    A truly terrifying thought but I can't see an independent getting such a position unless they act as an alliance. A single TD on their own wouldn't hold enough swing.


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 48,330 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    CramCycle wrote: »
    A single TD on their own wouldn't hold enough swing.
    i see what you did there.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Sickens me hole that she got elected vs some of those who lost their seats.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,162 ✭✭✭JMcL


    and so was (potentially) borne an uneasy alliance.
    you can bet your ass verona would have her eye on ross's job.

    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/simon-coveney-contacts-verona-murphy-for-coalition-talks-39229462.html

    If that photo is current (hopefully not), they're taking their social distancing guidelines from the Dominic Cummings playbook


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,868 ✭✭✭cletus


    It says the picture was from the official opening of the Georgia Southern University Global Hub. Quick google says that was last year


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,393 ✭✭✭Grassey


    DLRCC News release

    The cycling schemes and projects listed below will form part of the County-wide plan of temporary measures to address the challenges in the public realm resulting from Covid-19 related to public health and safety, mobility and to support the recovery of the local economy.


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  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 38,871 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Cycling world hits back after columnist says its ‘tempting’ to injure cyclists with wire traps

    Apparently he wrote the following in the Sunday Times...
    Liddle wrote in his comment piece, which focuses on the BBC but starts with a section on cyclists: “My wife has persuaded me that, strictly speaking, it is against the law to tie piano wire at neck height across the road. Oh, but it’s tempting.”


  • Registered Users Posts: 28,386 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko



    And then this happens, but I'm sure it is a coincidence, right?

    https://twitter.com/bellezzasolocle/status/1265317432656355329


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,148 ✭✭✭✭Hurrache


    I wouldn't bother my ass interacting, but bit of a "journalist" circle jerk thread, one of them has a recent bit of form when it comes to cyclists as she didn't take too kindly to her factual inaccuracies on the topic of the Phoenix Park being pointed out.


    https://twitter.com/AarRogan/status/1266301863583813637


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,730 ✭✭✭Type 17




  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 48,330 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    James May: scrap HS2 and buy us all a bike
    After several blissful weeks riding along car‑free city streets, May has come up with a plan: take the billions being spent on the new rail link and use it to start a proper two‑wheeled revolution
    As a teenager, my dream bicycle ride was probably a typical one. I would be taken, in a van, to somewhere like the top of the Cairngorms to enjoy a whole sublime day of exclusively downhill riding on my five-speed, pig-iron Raleigh racer. We thought about this, me and my mates. It would be, as Philip Larkin said, “everyone young going down the long slide / To happiness, endlessly.”

    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/james-may-scrap-hs2-and-buy-us-all-a-bike-dfk33pmw7


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    Paywalled :(

    May is actually a keen enough cyclist I think, I recall him making similar statements in the past.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 48,330 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    hammond moreso, i think? there were a couple of their 'challenges' where he was on a bicycle in a car v bike v public transport across a city.


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,866 ✭✭✭✭Thargor


    James May: scrap HS2 and buy us all a bike
    After several blissful weeks riding along car‑free city streets, May has come up with a plan: take the billions being spent on the new rail link and use it to start a proper two‑wheeled revolution
    As a teenager, my dream bicycle ride was probably a typical one. I would be taken, in a van, to somewhere like the top of the Cairngorms to enjoy a whole sublime day of exclusively downhill riding on my five-speed, pig-iron Raleigh racer. We thought about this, me and my mates. It would be, as Philip Larkin said, “everyone young going down the long slide / To happiness, endlessly.”

    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/james-may-scrap-hs2-and-buy-us-all-a-bike-dfk33pmw7
    Paywalled :(

    May is actually a keen enough cyclist I think, I recall him making similar statements in the past.
    Heres most of it:

    https://road.cc/content/news/james-may-pm-bomb-us-bicycles-hs2-cash-273933
    hammond moreso, i think? there were a couple of their 'challenges' where he was on a bicycle in a car v bike v public transport across a city.
    I think that was just an age thing, May is always going on about bikes and e-bikes and Raleigh Chopper-style nostalgia, although Hammond says hes a bit knackered these days aswell from a couple of bad car crashes in recent years.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 6,820 Mod ✭✭✭✭eeeee


    https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/dublin-set-to-introduce-30kmh-speed-limit-across-city-due-to-covid-19-1003099.html

    Good news for the most part, but I cannot understand why Amiens street and Crumlin road are exempt. Amiens street goes straight into the city centre, the road itself is in terrible shape design wise, and it goes straight to connolly station, one of the busiest if not the busiest in the country. There are always loads of people going to and from the station on Amiens street. :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,857 ✭✭✭Duckjob


    eeeee wrote: »
    https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/dublin-set-to-introduce-30kmh-speed-limit-across-city-due-to-covid-19-1003099.html

    Good news for the most part, but I cannot understand why Amiens street and Crumlin road are exempt. Amiens street goes straight into the city centre, the road itself is in terrible shape design wise, and it goes straight to connolly station, one of the busiest if not the busiest in the country. There are always loads of people going to and from the station on Amiens street. :rolleyes:


    Enforcement. Enforcement. Enforcement.

    a speed limit means nothing if the guards are arsed to enforce it.

    Don't like to be negative about it but lower limits by themselves mean f all if taxi drivers and can easily boot down the road at 80kph when the day traffic is all gone, just like they've been doing with impunity on the quays for years now.

    Enforce the limits strictly, and hand out heavy penalties for speeding in city areas.

    Even better, overhaul the road design radically to permanently make the desired speed limit self-enforcing. Out with flat multi-lane tarmac, in with raised paved areas, chicanes, street furniture etc, wide cycle and pedestrian areas. (I know, I know, I'm dreaming :D)

    Just copy what the dutch do because they've perfected the art of regulating motorised traffic speed in built up areas and simultaneously tipping the balance in favour of active modes of transport.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 36,164 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    Cameras. Cameras cameras cameras.




    Red light cameras, average speed cameras, direct speed cameras. Gardai are humans, humans suck at repetitive jobs. Machines are very good.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    ED E wrote: »
    Cameras. Cameras cameras cameras.




    Red light cameras, average speed cameras, direct speed cameras. Gardai are humans, humans suck at repetitive jobs. Machines are very good.

    The approach depends on the objective.

    If, like the Dutch, you want to lower speeds, improve safety and give over space to other modes, you alter the street scape to make it physically difficult to exceed the limits.

    If you want to generate income, you go the London way, change the limits, whack up cameras and fine those over them.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 48,330 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    Parents call for cycling infrastructure as roads become busier
    Booming bike sales and a Sports Ireland survey showing a 73% increase in the number of adults cycling suggests that thousands of families have been taking the opportunity due to the Covid-19 restrictions to go for a bike ride together.

    However as motor traffic has returned to the roads parents around the country are reporting that their family cycles are becoming more risky and less fun.
    https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2020/0603/1145254-bike-cycling/


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,857 ✭✭✭Duckjob


    Not exactly cycling related, but meanwhile....

    https://www.msn.com/en-ie/news/uknews/girl-5-struck-while-riding-go-kart-in-horrific-hit-and-run-in-finglas-dublin/ar-BB150Y9x?ocid=spartandhp

    Seriously, how much of an absolute cnut do you have to be to drive off after hitting a little five year old girl out playing out in the sunshine in her pedal kart. But then of course, it must have been one of those damned driverless cars:
    He [Garda spokesman] added: "The CAR failed to remain at the scene. No further information is available at this time and enquiries are ongoing"


  • Registered Users Posts: 181 ✭✭Steoller


    The approach depends on the objective.

    If, like the Dutch, you want to lower speeds, improve safety and give over space to other modes, you alter the street scape to make it physically difficult to exceed the limits.

    If you want to generate income, you go the London way, change the limits, whack up cameras and fine those over them.

    The Dutch aren't shy about nailing you with fines for speeding either.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,857 ✭✭✭Duckjob


    Steoller wrote: »
    The Dutch aren't shy about nailing you with fines for speeding either.

    True enough, but on the other hand I think the Dutch really understand that revenue from speed fines etc is nothing more than short-term cashflow and is more than offset by the much much greater costs of mopping up the after-effects of people speeding and being reckless.

    As a result of this understanding, they invest heavily in prevention by way of thoughtful design of their streetscapes to make people slow themselves down and not drive in a reckless manner in the first place.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,148 ✭✭✭✭Hurrache


    Duckjob wrote: »
    Not exactly cycling related, but meanwhile....

    https://www.msn.com/en-ie/news/uknews/girl-5-struck-while-riding-go-kart-in-horrific-hit-and-run-in-finglas-dublin/ar-BB150Y9x?ocid=spartandhp

    Seriously, how much of an absolute cnut do you have to be to drive off after hitting a little five year old girl out playing out in the sunshine in her pedal kart. But then of course, it must have been one of those damned driverless cars:

    Ah sure it's no wonder they asked the car to remain at the scene, it was apparently the car that done it anyway. Must have rolled out of the driveway when someone left the handbrake off, and continued rolling to the point of disappearance.
    "It's reported a car collided with a female child on a Go Kart on the road


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,140 ✭✭✭snailsong


    Also, "....the careless driver...."
    Not dangerous, not criminal, just careless. Good that that's been established.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 48,330 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    Hurrache wrote: »
    Ah sure it's no wonder they asked the car to remain at the scene, it was apparently the car that done it anyway. Must have rolled out of the driveway when someone left the handbrake off, and continued rolling to the point of disappearance.
    this is one area where i find myself at odds with quite a few people.
    in the context of 'the cyclist was involved in a collision with a car' you often see mention that there's no word of the motorist.
    the suggestion would appear to be that the motorist should be mentioned, but 'the cyclist was involved in a collision with the motorist' is wrong, and 'the cyclist was involved in a collision with a car driven by a motorist' is clunky and tautological (unless the cyclist cycled into a stationary car, but that's not the context).

    'the motorist left the scene' makes perfect sense though.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,462 ✭✭✭Curb Your Enthusiasm


    Costa have gotten themselves into a bit of a pickle with their wording on their last few tweets...

    https://twitter.com/CostaCoffee/status/1268457889242505216?s=19

    https://twitter.com/CostaCoffee/status/1265985869099552769?s=19


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