Journalism and Cycling 2: the difficult second album

magicbastarder

As the previous thread has gone over the 10k mark

old thread can be found here

Harrybelafonte

"Coincidentally Ray Shah had a whinge and rant on Twitter at the improved conditions for bikes around the city. The poor mite, it makes it harder for him to do his job, he claims."

Can you link to this. Like I said, he's a business owner and I'd like to make it clear why I'm boycotting him, so would like to reply. I've already had to boycott one of my favourite vegan protein powder companies cos of a stupid anti-5G email they sent out.

Hurrache

This is the thread
https://twitter.com/DublinCommuters/status/1258405771580243978

and his first interaction was this, and the 'debate' continued from then on if you can click into the tweet above.

https://twitter.com/Ray_Shah/status/1258513200938545152

He doesn't seem to understand he is traffic, and not everyone else around him.
https://twitter.com/Ray_Shah/status/1258522475983368192

You'd think someone pushing fitness lifestyles would embrace driving a little less.

MojoMaker

All Ray Shah is pushing is personal income.

Harrybelafonte

MojoMaker wrote: »

All Ray Shah is pushing is personal income.

Possibly, but his comments aren't exactly anti-cycling, that I can see. Just typical motorist comments.

Hurrache

Yeah, I did say he was ranting against conditions that made the city an improvement for cyclists (and pedestrians) as opposed to being anti cyclist. He stance is purely selfish though.

Harrybelafonte

Hurrache wrote: »

Yeah, I did say he was ranting against conditions that made the city an improvement for cyclists (and pedestrians) as opposed to being anti cyclist. He stance is purely selfish though.

Oh, agree. You definitely didn’t misrepresent it. I took it be such myself, so wanted to check before going off on one.

Thelonious Monk

At least Ray (an old neighbour of mine!) has reason to be in the city in his car, I assume he delivers his product around, so I get where he's coming from, but this is a reason we need delivery times earlier than rush hour like they do in other countries.
It's the fact that our city centre is destroyed by cars, mostly driven by people who don't live in the city or wont take public transport or cycle or walk to work, that I find hardest to stomach.
I've seen people on these forums moaning about Dublin trying to get cars out of the city and making their commute worse, and at the same time saying they wouldn't live in the kip because it's full of junkies and they'd never give up their one off house etc. We can't be designing our city around these people.

mr spuckler

It's funny with Ray Shah, in the space of a week he's on Facebook strongly advocating for the Bull Island causeway to be permanently closed to cars and then this...

magicbastarder

it's almost as if... he can only see what suits him personally.

Thelonious Monk

mr spuckler wrote: »

It's funny with Ray Shah, in the space of a week he's on Facebook strongly advocating for the Bull Island causeway to be permanently closed to cars and then this...

People were going on about how much nicer Killiney hill was without the cars but people who don't live nearby think it should be their right to drive up there and park on the double yellow lines, which they always do. I've been up the hill many times without using a car and I live on the other side of the city.
The same arguments are coming from people regarding the causeway.
People just want to be able to drive wherever they want whenever they want and they mostly get their way, I really hope this car dominance ends it's so much nicer without them.

Thelonious Monk

https://twitter.com/Ireland_Greener/status/1259931231443173379

wtf is going on

magicbastarder

Priority to be given to cyclists and pedestrians - DCC
Dublin City Council says it will "deal" with any legal challenges to proposed restrictions on private cars in the city centre with more space and priority to be given to cyclists and pedestrians.
https://www.rte.ie/news/dublin/2020/0511/1137819-dublin-traffic/

i'd be half tempted to tweet arnotts or BT to wag my finger sternly at them, but the poor sod managing the twitter account is not the one who would be best placed to deal with my complaint. wonder how it'd be best to contact them.
plus i'd feel like a hypocrite. we bought a hoover in the arnott's warehouse sale a couple of month's back, out at the national show centre, and we drove there...

Peregrine

magicbastarder wrote: »

Priority to be given to cyclists and pedestrians - DCC
Dublin City Council says it will "deal" with any legal challenges to proposed restrictions on private cars in the city centre with more space and priority to be given to cyclists and pedestrians.
https://www.rte.ie/news/dublin/2020/0511/1137819-dublin-traffic/

i'd be half tempted to tweet arnotts or BT to wag my finger sternly at them, but the poor sod managing the twitter account is not the one who would be best placed to deal with my complaint. wonder how it'd be best to contact them.
plus i'd feel like a hypocrite. we bought a hoover in the arnott's warehouse sale a couple of month's back, out at the national show centre, and we drove there...

You could e-mail or write to them directly. Social media is also good to let others know of what they're up to. You're right about not expecting a reply from the poor sod manning the account but someone higher up will pick up the negative mentions if they snowball.

https://twitter.com/aoibhinn_ni_s/status/1260077174322868225?s=20
https://twitter.com/kevinhargaden/status/1259956646643675137?s=20

Thelonious Monk

https://twitter.com/dannyboy1979/status/1260118604130979841

Didn't take them long! These pricks are there nearly every morning

Hurrache

More inevitable, but predicable, muppetry
https://twitter.com/DormanArchs/status/1260150381998473216

Seth Brundle

In terms of the Liffey Cycle Route, one of the many cycling related changes implemented around Dublin, I'm only now seeing how it ends in Hugh PhD's tweet below...

https://twitter.com/HughManning/status/1259876592840556552

Seth Brundle

Another letter in today's Irish Times...

Cycling on footpaths

Sir, – While everybody is looking forward to the new normal as we unwind from lockdown, could I ask cyclists to refrain from cycling on footpaths. I know it appears to be an easy option but is very dangerous to pedestrians, particularly now when space is so important to everyone.

As more people take to cycling to and from work, and also for exercise, the needs of pedestrians are likely to fall further down the pecking order in this regard.

Can I remind any cyclist who may feel tempted to use the footpath for an easier passage that the clue is in the name. It is a footpath! – Yours, etc,

NUALA DELANEY,
Killiney,
Co Dublin.

https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/letters/cycling-on-footpaths-1.4250617

magicbastarder

it's a FOOTPAD.

sheesh.

Cookie_Monster

NUALA DELANEY,
Killiney,
Co Dublin.

I'm almost certain I know who that is

magicbastarder

me too - i think that's nuala delaney, from killiney.

Stark

She also does comedy https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/letters/inner-space-1.4246700

Curb Your Enthusiasm

Wait until Nuala hears what cars do to footpaths in housing estates and city centres around the country.

Seth Brundle

Those Bloody Cyclists are getting worse it seems...

https://twitter.com/BBCNewsNI/status/1259787859269222400?s=19

Stark

Says "this tweet is unavailable"

Grassey

That's the cycling fraternity with their nefarious ways behind the scenes controlling of the war on car bias

CormacH94

Seth Brundle wrote: »

In terms of the Liffey Cycle Route, one of the many cycling related changes implemented around Dublin, I'm only now seeing how it ends in Hugh PhD's tweet below...

https://twitter.com/HughManning/status/1259876592840556552

That's just stupid, it's a real problem with infrastructure in this country ''ah sure just slap it down it'll be grand''

Seth Brundle

Seth Brundle wrote: »

Those Bloody Cyclists are getting worse it seems...

https://twitter.com/BBCNewsNI/status/1259787859269222400?s=19

Stark wrote: »

Says "this tweet is unavailable"

The tweet seems to have been removed but this was it...


Story...

Hurrache

Discussing the changes in Dublin City on RTE with Owen Keegan at the moment, it's infuriating listening to the texts they chose to read out.

magicbastarder

did they mention that keegan hopes to proceed with the white water rafting facility?

Hurrache

He was asked and said all projects are on hold, presumably meaning non essential ones.

Hurrache

The craic continues
https://twitter.com/IBIKEDublin/status/1260502504409837569

magicbastarder

Yeah, he didn't say it was proceeding as originally planned:

https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/dublin-city-council-hopeful-22m-white-water-rafting-facility-can-go-ahead-999234.html

Seth Brundle

Nice input to DCC discussion on Dublin's traffic...

https://twitter.com/GeogheganCllr/status/1260298032081506304

Hurrache

Yeah, he made some good points. A former Fingal councillor then chimes in to the twitter thread complaining about the choice of people is being taken away. Someone pointed out the irony of him complaining about the choice when he's a member of Renua.

I did get a chuckle from the comment point that out to him.

Hurrache

People just keep giving


https://www.broadsheet.ie/2020/05/13/lame-stream/

Seth Brundle

Hurrache wrote: »

Discussing the changes in Dublin City on RTE with Owen Keegan at the moment, it's infuriating listening to the texts they chose to read out.

https://twitter.com/AilishLally/status/1260504078985113602

Hurrache

Although I understand that when there's 1 guest on a presenter should put forward arguments against their points, I did feel McInerney was against the council's plans, but I don't listen to her often enough to know if this is just the way she debates.

Curb Your Enthusiasm

This article is unfortunately not a p1sstake.

Fianna Fáil councillor: 'Stop whinging' over returning Cork traffic

A Fianna Fáil councillor has urged some of those advocating for improved cycling infrastructure in Cork to "stop their whinging" and warned that there will be more cars on the road as the country emerges from lockdown next week.

This man represents my constituency and I've never heard a peep out of him until now about sustainable transport or making cycling safer. But yeah, he calls those working hard to get safe infrastructure in place "whingers".

What a tosser. Dinosaurs like this need to go.

https://amp.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/fianna-fail-councillor-stop-whinging-over-returning-cork-traffic-999316.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter&__twitter_impression=true

Hurrache

McSavage knows why people like that still get in, and the subject is very apt.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjl8OIZijjY

Curb Your Enthusiasm

Lol, he must have contacted all the newspapers in Cork.

https://twitter.com/MarinaParkCork/status/1260612409057841154?s=19

Duckjob

Hurrache wrote: »

Discussing the changes in Dublin City on RTE with Owen Keegan at the moment, it's infuriating listening to the texts they chose to read out.

Fair play to him for saying straight out that theres a cohert of complainers that just resent any improvement in pedestrian or cyclist facilities. He couldn't be more right and they've been holding the city back for years now.

dinneenp

Not much of an editoral/opinionated article but the end of it....
Call for pop-up bike lanes in 'reimagined' Cork city

"A Fianna Fáil councillor has urged some of those advocating for improved cycling infrastructure in Cork to "stop their whinging" and warned that there will be more cars on the road as the country emerges from lockdown next week."

Curb Your Enthusiasm

dinneenp wrote: »

Not much of an editoral/opinionated article but the end of it....
Call for pop-up bike lanes in 'reimagined' Cork city

"A Fianna Fáil councillor has urged some of those advocating for improved cycling infrastructure in Cork to "stop their whinging" and warned that there will be more cars on the road as the country emerges from lockdown next week."

They had him in two seperate articles yesterday with that quote.

Think they just decided to throw it in again at the end for good measure. That cllr is a plank.

JMcL

Seth Brundle wrote: »

Another letter in today's Irish Times...

https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/letters/cycling-on-footpaths-1.4250617

Stark wrote: »

She also does comedy https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/letters/inner-space-1.4246700

Is is just me, or does anybody else have Frank Kelly's 12 Days Of Christmas popping to mind?

Mickiemcfist

https://www.thejournal.ie/blackock-dublin-one-way-system-5098870-May2020/

Well this is positive! Blackrock village would be lovely if it was pedestrianized entirely.

work

I As a resident of Blackrock getting cycling and pedestrianisation of the village would be amazing, it would make it a proper village again, not just a cut through.
If we can make infrastructure changes permanent Covid will leave at least one great legacy.

ngunners

This is a real shame, cars returning to Phoenix Park from Monday:

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/environment/cars-to-return-to-phoenix-park-on-monday-1.4253736

Mickiemcfist

work wrote: »

I As a resident of Blackrock getting cycling and pedestrianisation of the village would be amazing, it would make it a proper village again, not just a cut through.
If we can make infrastructure changes permanent Covid will leave at least one great legacy.

I live there too, Bear would make an absolute fortune! It would be great to see it.

Stark

ngunners wrote: »

This is a real shame, cars returning to Phoenix Park from Monday:

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/environment/cars-to-return-to-phoenix-park-on-monday-1.4253736

Yeah was gutted to read that