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Fake watch busters

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  • Registered Users Posts: 14,226 ✭✭✭✭Cienciano


    Birneybau wrote: »
    It's ironic that a thread wherein crappy fakes were being flagged for a larf has become in some ways a defense of fakes, for some.

    Would counterfit goods be discussed in a good way, in any other forum?

    I'm not defending them. They're illegal and I think the main problem is what someone said earlier, the talent and work that goes into them could go into making some nice lines of gen watches.
    I will however correct people when they say they're "worthless" and others when they say you can't service them when clearly both are wrong. It's weird to me, simply explaining something and they don't want to hear it so just reply with the word "bullshíte" :confused:


    But reps are discussed on lots of other forums, I know a good few people who have bought fake football and rugby jerseys and they all said they'd never buy a gen again. Might be banned on boards, but on other forums it's common enough. But watches are different as people buy them for the name and craftsmanship. Most people couldn't care less when it comes to things like jerseys, it's not like adidas are known for their amazing craftsmanship.


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,474 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    Cienciano wrote: »
    I'm not defending them. They're illegal and I think the main problem is what someone said earlier, the talent and work that goes into them could go into making some nice lines of gen watches.
    I will however correct people when they say they're "worthless" and others when they say you can't service them when clearly both are wrong. It's weird to me, simply explaining something and they don't want to hear it so just reply with the word "bullshíte" :confused:


    But reps are discussed on lots of other forums, I know a good few people who have bought fake football and rugby jerseys and they all said they'd never buy a gen again. Might be banned on boards, but on other forums it's common enough. But watches are different as people buy them for the name and craftsmanship. Most people couldn't care less when it comes to things like jerseys, it's not like adidas are known for their amazing craftsmanship.

    Just on the jerseys, there is a very, very long running thread over on the soccer sub-forum here on where and how to source fake jerseys, training gear and even boots and runners.
    I will say I am writing this post whilst wearing a dodgy Liverpool top, in anticipation of tonight's match too ;)
    Helps me feel a bit more Scouse :P

    Boards.ie's enforcement of closing down fake discussion is very hit and miss IMO.

    There is a site wide rule that on some subs, is strictly enforced. IPTV and pirating being an example of threads being shut down extremely quickly.

    Others such as the jersey thread and a few fashion and beauty threads I've seen in the past are all treated with a nod and a wink.

    On this sub, the view is fakes are shíte and very good reason.
    I am glad however to see a discussion that lays out a bit more of the thinking on both sides, that said me and my fake as fúck 'pool shirt ain't buying no Ronex ;) :pac:

    The watchmakers by post does raise an interesting dilemma too IMO.

    You are a talented highly skilled craftsman, in a world where there is less and less demand for your skills.
    Be it via a reducing pool of mechanical watches and watch owners, or the imposition of manufacture service centres and warranty additions for official servicing.

    I can certainly see why, with fakes using ETA Sellita or their clones, that you might service such watches to keep an income.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,073 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Birneybau wrote: »
    It's ironic that a thread wherein crappy fakes were being flagged for a larf has become in some ways a defense of fakes, for some.

    Would counterfit goods be discussed in a good way, in any other forum?
    I don't think anyone is defending fakes. I certainly wouldn't and wouldn't wear one if you paid me. On the other hand there can be some defensiveness kicking in with fakes. Understandably so, for a few reasons, mostly the devaluation of someone's real example, but saying fakes can be serviced by some watchmakers, or that a subculture exists where fakes are "valued" doesn't mean that's a promotion of fakes, it's just a fact. A sad fact to be sure.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users Posts: 14,226 ✭✭✭✭Cienciano


    banie01 wrote: »
    Just on the jerseys, there is a very, very long running thread over on the soccer sub-forum here on where and how to source fake jerseys, training gear and even boots and runners.
    I will say I am writing this post whilst wearing a dodgy Liverpool top, in anticipation of tonight's match too ;)
    Helps me feel a bit more Scouse :P

    I got fake kits for the kids. At €15 delivered instead of about €70. Multiplied by each kid. Handy, they have a few jerseys each now. I think 90% of jerseys kids you see around are fake to be honest, once you know the tell tail signs you notice millions of them around. I wouldn't buy gen ones unless it was a similar price. Handy for retro jerseys if you're into that. Ones you either can't get or go for crazy money.

    Jerseys are seen as easy to buy, you can go onto lots of popular sites and they're available. So maybe boards don't seem to bothered by it. Where the rep watches (good quality reps) are a little bit harder to find, just googling it won't turn up anything trustworthy and the sites that sell them regularly change domain.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,449 ✭✭✭micks_address


    banie01 wrote: »
    FG isn't gonna like this at all, at all!!!

    Took me a while to catch up with the thread.. i was wondering why Leo and co might have objections to fake watches.. maybe new party policy


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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,110 ✭✭✭Thirdfox


    SF on the other hand... might be one of their side businesses :P


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,110 ✭✭✭Thirdfox


    adam88 wrote: »
    https://www.adverts.ie/20721737

    Not exactly a Rolex but why would people bother selling fake Hugo boss watches????? That particular watch is retailing for 450 he’s hardly still making a profit even if he is getting them direct from some lad??

    He seems to have sold a hell of a lot of watches and his reviews are good

    Good value or just w really good fake?

    Arguably not good value even at 140ish...

    To answer the question of why sell fake Hugo Boss watches - because it makes money :D - there are fake Sea-Gull (Chinese brand) watches and fake Seiko 5s being sold too...

    It is an awful lot of watches to have sold - but the thing with many fashion brands is that there's almost (or actual no) difference between the real and fake - they are produced in the same factories potentially - it's all coming from China anyway and made cheap as chips.

    He did sell a Tissot at 120 too: https://www.adverts.ie/casual/tissot-man-watch-no-box/16159965 - is that suspicious?

    I know for a fact that Fossil's automatic: https://www.adverts.ie/casual/fossil-automatic-man-watch/18563033 - is legitimately a Chinese producer (had known about that factory too). They recently shut down after the coronavirus hit and Fossil decided to cancel their contracts - everyone lost their jobs as a result.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,699 ✭✭✭Lorddrakul


    Another gem here...
    http://www.adverts.ie/20810402


  • Registered Users Posts: 160 ✭✭thelizardking1


    This is a cracker!

    http://www.adverts.ie/20871280


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,474 ✭✭✭✭banie01



    He bought it at auction tho...
    Totally legit ;) :pac:


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,073 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    OK folks I've deleted all the posts and responses from the last couple of pages. It was of little value to the forum or this thread and best moved on from. Thanks.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,740 ✭✭✭893bet


    https://www.adverts.ie/21040039

    Datejust on presidential bracelet.....I thought that configuration didn’t exist.

    Seller had good feedback though. Perhaps a loose watch matched up with a loose bracelet...

    Edit

    Seems it does exist....was sure it didnt, a 69128

    https://www.brereton.ie/watches-c12/rolex-c37/laides-rolex-18ct-datejust-on-president-bracelet-p156


  • Registered Users Posts: 444 ✭✭Rootsblower


    893bet wrote: »
    https://www.adverts.ie/21040039

    Datejust on presidential bracelet.....I thought that configuration didn’t exist.

    Seller had good feedback though. Perhaps a loose watch matched up with a loose bracelet...

    Edit

    Seems it does exist....was sure it didnt, a 69128

    https://www.brereton.ie/watches-c12/rolex-c37/laides-rolex-18ct-datejust-on-president-bracelet-p156

    This configuration could always be got in lady DateJust sizes.

    Bit optimistic on price have seen a few around as low as €6500.

    https://www.theantiquesroom.com/product/rolex-1991-18k-datejust-ladies-president/


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,474 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    OmegaGene wrote: »

    Is that a copy of the CLEP version of that particular tag?


  • Moderators Posts: 6,851 ✭✭✭Spocker


    OmegaGene wrote: »
    Reported this yesterday and it’s still there

    https://www.adverts.ie/21233179

    Gone now, but it was't me


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,260 ✭✭✭Homer


    I seem to have overlooked that one this morning when I checked. I nuked it this afternoon.


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,474 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    If ever we thought fakes were easy to spot...
    Panerai have apparently shared a fake on their insta and catching a lot of lols for it.
    Spotted it over on Reddit and thought it might be of interest.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/RepTime/comments/i9kmg5/in_case_you_wonder_how_good_panerai_reps_are/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

    https://www.instagram.com/p/CD1KZKrq3II/?igshid=y4nu15qwinl8


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,527 ✭✭✭Fitz II




  • Registered Users Posts: 73,382 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    Looks like a transition year project.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,908 ✭✭✭hitemfrank


    The same seller has a wonderful Daytona for an unbelievable price too

    Yj-U2-NDMx-Y2-M3-NDgy-Nm-Vi-Y2-Yx-Nj-My-Zm-E0-MTQx-Nzhk-NDRG3-DVx-Ln-D5-Jd-INCTYTgyb-Aa-HR0c-Dov-L21.jpg

    Yours for only 130 - https://touch.adverts.ie/casual/rolex/21532604


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  • Moderators Posts: 6,851 ✭✭✭Spocker


    Both gone


  • Registered Users Posts: 730 ✭✭✭tjhook


    Spocker wrote: »
    Both gone


    I'm not surprised - that AP would be snapped up pretty quickly with its industrial look. There's a charm to watches that have been made of spare parts from boilers.



    :pac:


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,767 ✭✭✭griffin100




  • Registered Users Posts: 1,699 ✭✭✭Lorddrakul


    griffin100 wrote: »

    Have to say, I feel a bit sorry for the buyer. They obviously paid way more than that asking price before realising they had bought a lemon.

    I'd imagine getting a crown for a snide would be bit of a job.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,340 ✭✭✭TheW1zard


    Pointing out 130euro rolex watches are fake, you guys must be real experts.
    (Everyone knows theyre fake)


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,740 ✭✭✭893bet


    griffin100 wrote: »

    Would like to see the receipt from the auction house....
    TheW1zard wrote: »
    Pointing out 130euro rolex watches are fake, you guys must be real experts.
    (Everyone knows theyre fake)

    Thanks for the input. Your expertise on this forum I am sure will be a big addition


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,340 ✭✭✭TheW1zard


    893bet wrote: »
    Would like to see the receipt from the auction house....



    Thanks for the input. Your expertise on this forum I am sure will be a big addition

    Yes the expertise is top notch on this forum


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,340 ✭✭✭TheW1zard


    There are some very good copies out there but dont be fooled with this one.

    https://www.donedeal.ie/jewellery-for-sale/rolex/25952389?campaign=14


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,740 ✭✭✭893bet


    TheW1zard wrote: »
    Yes the expertise is top notch on this forum

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=111448640&postcount=960

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=111448967&postcount=962

    I see you used this particular thread for expertise yet you are here now ****ting on it.

    Lolled hard.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 14,226 ✭✭✭✭Cienciano


    Oh dear TheW1zard. Called out!

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