35 properties to be leased in Galway city for asylum seekers

Zookey123 wrote: »

Thats a lot of in depth knowledge about someone you have never met.

No different than the fools telling me that everyone of them is a doctor. But that's ok to say.

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Should we expect similar announcements for homeless Irish families soon??? If not, why not?

Yes, people are given free homes all the time in Ireland. Remember the travellers rejecting massive houses because of the horses? Remember Margaret Cash who's campaign for the homelesseseseses seemed to disappear after they gave her a 4 bedroom home?

Or all these flats given to a lucky few in Dublin city centre where most of us could never afford to live?

https://www.rte.ie/news/2020/0916/1165518-st-marys-mansions-dublin-regeneration/

I don't know why people bother getting worked up over asylum seekers. I would rather be the only Irish person in an estate full of asylum seekers than some of the scumbags they give free homes to.

Mr. Karate wrote: »

We have no obligation to support anybody else.

We should feel obliged to help those worse off than us. Whether they are seeking asylum or homeless.

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

Remember Margaret Cash who's campaign for the homelesseseseses seemed to disappear after they gave her a 4 bedroom home?

Good point. She had an awful lot of folks thinking she was campaigning for homeless people when she was only campaigning for herself. She did well in fairness, got the gaff.

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

Sure aren't we supposed to be a Christian country with references to God in our constitution etc?

Il assume you are attempting to be facetious.

Mr. Karate wrote: »

And nothing to help the homeless Irish who are facing another Winter on the Streets. And then these Virtue signalling traitors wonder why anti-immigration sentiments are rising.

Most of the people sleeping on the streets can't be helped. They wouldn't be able to look after themselves even if they were given the keys to a flat. That guy that died outside the Dail was offered places to stay. No matter how far we come we'll always have people on the streets who can't fit in anywhere. There were even homeless people in Zurich when I visited there last year, one of the richest well run places in the world.

Zookey123 wrote: »

Nearly 50% of Irish doctors are foreign. Should we ignore this fact? A large number of our nurses are also foreign. Stop moaning and actually actively try to improve your own life rather than blame a minority group.

Zookey123 wrote: »

Who said that? I pointed out a fact that nearly 50% of doctors are foreign. Reading comprehension is very important perhaps thats why all the immigrants are stealing your jobs.

Ah yes the old tactic of conflating legal immigrants with dubious asylum seekers.

That way it seems we are actually missing out on doctors, nurses, scientists, engineers, etc by not taking in anyone that wanderers along with a sob story.

"Sure only a moron would want to miss out on those valuable contributors to our society."

"And sure you must be awful racists and bigots to not want foreigners working in the health service especially now when we are faced with pandemic."

As other poster spelt out it is very unlikely that qualified professionals are using human trafficers and rubber dinghies to get to Europe to work in our health services.

I would bet it is as likely as you actually taking some of these into your own home.

Your tactic is the usual one adopted by the ones pedalling the "take them in" as a way to try and hide the fact that almost all of these are unqualified poorly educated and will add nothing but strife and cost to the host countries in both the short and the long run.

PS your forgot to mention they will be all paying for our pensions and healthcare when we get old.

Zookey123 wrote: »

Who said that? I pointed out a fact that nearly 50% of doctors are foreign. Reading comprehension is very important perhaps thats why all the immigrants are stealing your jobs.

I know that, that's why I replied. You stated this in a thread about asylum seekers, your point was to make people aware that 50% of workers are foreign in the health sector and trying to link it in somehow with asylum seekers otherwise you'd not have said anything.

I'm all for doctors and nurses from any part of the world which most of the so called "Asylum Seekers" are not.

Also the smart line about stealing my jobs, assuming anyone who states anything different from you is an idiot or a bum, nice touch. I'll just quote the below.

Zookey123 wrote:

Thats a lot of in depth knowledge about someone you have never met.

jmayo wrote: »

And what about family reunification ?


For a start that is 5,000 mouths to feed, 5,000 medical cards, 5,000 to be medically assessed, 5,000 to get some sort of social welfare, 5,000 to get some form of training/education.

And are you going to put all 5,000 into the 35 houses ?

Then when you do add in family, that 5,000 can become 20,000 or 25,000.

More exaggeration. Regardless, asylum seekers have a net benefit to a countries economy.

Outkast_IRE wrote: »

The problem is and always has been the length of time asylum seekers are spending in direct provision centers. There is nothing wrong with direct provision for a short period.

The problem now is people are using the system to start a family and have kids while they are waiting to complicate the whole issue.

Government money would be better spent , fast tracking the whole process and eliminating the appeals process. They either have sufficient evidence or they dont, if they dont put them on the first flight out of here.

Could we get the claims process down to 7 days max, and keep the AS in the port/airport?

This would be beneficial for the AS, as they would get an answer earlier.

Zookey123 wrote: »

Great another thread about immigrants. Do they not deserve a home? They are also just people like us. Maybe start treating people as individuals rather than putting everyone in categories. One person does wrong and cheats the system therefore all immigrants are bad. Put yourself in someone else's shoes for one day, have a bit of empathy.

We know that the vast majority of AS are bogus.

We have read the reports about the bogus criminal Asian AS involved in sham marriages.

It is all well known.

Why would I have empathy with criminals?

Genuine refugees are welcome.

EU migrants are welcome.

Bogus AS are not welcome.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/lucrative-sham-marriage-scam-brought-to-an-end-at-dublin-cricket-match-1.3504893

This bogus criminal Asian AS organised many sham marriages.

Why do people have sympathy for criminals?


"Muhammad “Romi” Ramzan (40) from Pakistan did his best to laugh off the interruption. But seven days later he is back in Pakistan, having been deported on Tuesday after a week in Cloverhill Prison.

His is a tale of modern organised crime.

Born on January 1st, 1978, the authorities in Ireland first became aware of him in 2008 when he sought asylum. He was one of 3,866 foreign nationals to do so that year, 237 of them Pakistani.

The result was against him so he appealed. In December, 2009, the Refugee Appeals Tribunal rejected his case. But by now he had a fall-back plan. Then aged 31, he married a 20-year-old Latvian woman."





All of the Pakistani AS are bogus.


We need to end DP, and process their bogus claims much faster.

We know that all of the Albanian and Georgian AS are bogus.

Varadkar confirmed it.

It is well known, reported in media, that they tear up the travel documents on the plane.

Thankfully, we have moved the checks to the aircraft, and the criminal activity slowed down.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/airport-operation-to-block-albanians-georgians-from-claiming-asylum-is-scaled-back-1.4175758

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/airports-tough-stance-on-albanian-migrants-38669370.html


You won't believe this - an NGO here said it's wrong of INIS/GNIB to move the checks to the aircraft!!!!!!

Imagine telling the Garda "it's bad to investigate crimes".

Sonrisa wrote: »

It would be great if it could be lawfully processed that quickly, but unfortunately I don't think there is any government process so efficient.

Can you elaborate on why it can't be done in 7 days?

Zookey123 wrote: »

Using that as an excuse to label all immigrants as criminals is ridiculous and i'm sure even you don't believe that.

I don't think anybody is saying all immigrants are criminals, that is clearly false, as you say.


Bogus AS are criminals.

Bogus AS are a small share of all immigrants.


There are estimated 85,000 immigrants in year to April 2020.

Bogus AS is < 5,000.