Justice League Spoilers from post 980 onward

Nervous Wreck · 12-08-2012 1:14pm

Mickeroo wrote: »

How does everyone think this will play out on screen? I would be expecting Supes and Bats to get most of the screen time. I think its a dangerous game going into this without a lead up movie for everyone. Avengers benefited greatly from each character having an on screen back story.

I'd nearly prefer just a Superman/Batman team up film before they launch into JLA, would be a good way to reboot Batman too imo.

I'd imagine it'll go something like.....

Secondary hero (GL, Flash etc) fights enemy, gets ass kicked.
Another secondary hero fights same enemy, gets ass kicked.
Third secondary hero fights same enemy, almost gets ass kicked, gets helped by Superman at the last minute. Enemy flees but clues indicate he's one of a group.
Superman rallies the team one by one.
Superman approaches Batman who is 'not interested.'
JLA - Batman go to war with evil villains.
Batman researches enemies on his own.
JLA are fighting a losing battle.
Batman arrives.
Bats and Supes take the lead and JLA wins.
Final scene is Bruce Wayne and Clark Kent exchanging veiled insults but agreeing to continue to work together with the team when they're needed.
Awesome music and credits.

al28283 · 12-08-2012 1:23pm

The last scene in the Batman/superman animated feature thing was awesome where Clark gets home and realises theres a tracking device on his cape and the camera pulls back over the city to show Batman sitting on a rooftop looking at him through binoculars. It was cool to see Batman even the odds as Superman obviously knew he was Bruce wayne straigh away

splashthecash · 29-08-2012 1:50pm

Interesting....

Rumor: Rebooted Batman Will First Appear In ‘Justice League’ Before New Film Series
http://www.slashfilm.com/rumor-rebooted-batman-will-first-appear-in-justice-league-before-new-film-series/

For the past five years and counting, Warner Bros. has been one of the most successful studios in Hollywood thanks in large part to Batman and Harry Potter. However with Potter done and The Dark Knight Rises now out in the world, Warner Bros. is at a crossroads. What’s the next big, surefire hit franchise? WB believes DC Comics characters hold the answer.
From here, we pretty much know the score. Zack Snyder’s Man of Steel is scheduled for June 14, 2013; WB is dead set on rebooting Batman; and the script for Justice League is currently looking for a director. Some of the many mysteries beyond that are the links between those films, release schedule and how they’ll deal with a new Batman.
One of those questions may now have an answer. A reputable source of Batman news reports Warner Bros. plan is to introduce the new, rebooted Batman in the Justice League film and start a new film series after that. Read more after the jump.

The news comes from Batman on Film, a really great site for Batman film news. Here’s what they have to say:
Said reboot will come after the JL film, not before. Therefore, the new cinematic Batman will be introduced in the JL film as opposed to a solo film. This would, according to my industry “FOBOF,” assure the new Batman film series will be part of a “DC Cinematic Universe.”
This would be the opposite direction Marvel took, making a bunch of movies and building up to The Avengers, but there’s no reason starting with the team up couldn’t work in a similar fashion. Fans will see a story featuring these heroes, who all just happen to exist already (hopefully, we’ll already know about Superman if Man of Steel is canon – that’s yet to be confirmed) and after they finish this story, they can go off on their own.
By doing this, Warner Bros. will also avoid one thing fans have been adamantly arguing against: another Batman origin story. By now, we’re smart enough for Batman to just be Batman. Hint to the backstory, briefly show it, but build off heat from Justice League and move on from there. I like this idea.
And if that happens, then all eyes should 100% be locked into Will Beall, the writer of Justice League. He literally carries the fate of billions upon billions of dollars in revenue in his laptop. A failed Justice League won’t necessarily stop a new Batman, Green Lantern, Wonder Woman etc., but it could put an unnecessary cloud over them costing lots and lots of money.
So, what do you think? Is a Justice League film the place to introduce a new Batman? Can that work as well as The Avengers did?

maximoose · 29-08-2012 1:55pm

By doing this, Warner Bros. will also avoid one thing fans have been adamantly arguing against: another Batman origin story. By now, we’re smart enough for Batman to just be Batman. Hint to the backstory, briefly show it, but build off heat from Justice League and move on from there. I like this idea.

I very much like this idea too. Makes a lot of sense, no need for another origins story (and they wont better BB anyway).

Not very pushed on the Justice League films though, I'd like to know what other characters they are planning on including.

splashthecash · 29-08-2012 1:59pm

I like the idea - place us all right in the middle of it...whether or not it will deal with the JL already formed, or the various ins and outs of getting them together is another thing but anything that will save us having to find out how batman became batman im game for.

They run the risk of casting a batman though that if received negatively, would mean either plowing on ahead with the reboot regardless, or having to recast which isn't ideal....consistency is very important

ancapailldorcha · 29-08-2012 10:32pm

I wonder if they'll cut off less "sellable" characters like Aquaman or the Martian Manhunter. Cutting off an origin story everyone knows is definitely a good idea.
Does anyone think it's likely they'll reboot Green Lantern. I tried watching it the other day and it's woeful. I think this could work given how enjoyable the Avengers was.

Monty Burnz · 29-08-2012 11:30pm

I hope the rebooted Batman goes back to the Adam West-style original. Pow. Zowie. Holy cash cow, Batman.

maximoose · 30-08-2012 9:29am

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

I wonder if they'll cut off less "sellable" characters like Aquaman or the Martian Manhunter.

That's what I'm curious about too. Think their inclusion/exclusion will give us a much better idea of what kind of film it'll be.

Does anyone think it's likely they'll reboot Green Lantern. I tried watching it the other day and it's woeful.

It really was terrible wasn't it :pac:

I'm looking forward to seeing the new Arrow TV show and see what it's like, the extended trailer doing the rounds looks like it could be ok. I'd imagine if it does well then Green Arrow might get a prominent spot in JL movie.

Sleepy · 30-08-2012 10:28am

Aquaman's chances of appearing may well have been helped by the storyline of Vince playing him in Entourage. I'd certainly never heard of him prior to that, though I've never been a bit comic book reader (had only read Dark Knight Returns, Preacher and Watchmen until 5/6 years ago).

Mickeroo · 30-08-2012 12:11pm

Hadn't heard about the Green Arrow tv show, trailer doesn't do too much for me I have to say. Wouldn't be my favourite JLA character, always just seemed like Hawkeye with Batman's back story to me. One thing I got from the trailer though, the first part of it reminded me of the Man of Steel trailer a fair bit so maybe we will see a bit of a cross over.

I'm glad it seems like they'll be going sans origin story with the Batman reboot though I think it's a mistake to ditch the origins of the other JLA members. Fair enough GL is already done and everyone knows Wonder Woman (though not everyone would be familiar with the greek mythology side of her) but they need a Flash movie at the very least dammit.

maximoose · 30-08-2012 12:21pm

It does look a little low-budget and cheesy, but I'll give it a watch. Reminded me of Man of Steel a bit too!

brianregan09 · 30-08-2012 2:15pm

Weren't they saying at one point that Bradley Cooper was going to be headlining a new Flash movie ? Guess we've the success of Green Lantern and Jonah Hex to thank for that...smell the sarcasm aaaah lol

Mickeroo · 30-08-2012 2:44pm

brianregan09 wrote: »

Weren't they saying at one point that Bradley Cooper was going to be headlining a new Flash movie ? Guess we've the success of Green Lantern and Jonah Hex to thank for that...smell the sarcasm aaaah lol

Reynolds would have been a good Flash imo, would have thought someone in the Aaron Eckhart mould to be more suited to Hal Jordan.

Still haven't watched Jonah Hex because I keep hearing how bad it is. On paper i thought Brolin was a great choice though its probably not his fault the film apparently sucked.

30-08-2012 2:46pm

if the riddle is in the next batman movie neil patrick harris should be cast as him he be perfect for the role

Nervous Wreck · 30-08-2012 2:49pm

Mickeroo wrote: »

Reynolds would have been a good Flash imo

YES!

Border-Rat · 30-08-2012 2:51pm

Well I'm definitely in the minority when I say I'm glad there's no more Nolan Batman. I want a brooding nutter again like Keaton.

JP Liz V1 · 30-08-2012 4:56pm

Mickeroo wrote: »

Reynolds would have been a good Flash imo, would have thought someone in the Aaron Eckhart mould to be more suited to Hal Jordan.

Still haven't watched Jonah Hex because I keep hearing how bad it is. On paper i thought Brolin was a great choice though its probably not his fault the film apparently sucked.

Nathan Fillion as Green Lantern and Morena Baccarin as Wonder Woman

Ryan Gosling would be good as Flash

Sleepy · 30-08-2012 5:16pm

Nathan Fillion I could see as a good Hal Jordan alright but Morena Baccarin wouldn't git the role of WW for me though, to be fair, Lynda Carter will always be Wonder Woman to me...

ancapailldorcha · 30-08-2012 5:58pm

I wonder if they'll use Man of Steel to set up the JL film the same way Marvel used Iron Man to set up the Avengers. I just hope DC don't try to cram in loads of horrible jokes the same way Marvel do.

Mickeroo · 30-08-2012 7:26pm

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

I wonder if they'll use Man of Steel to set up the JL film the same way Marvel used Iron Man to set up the Avengers. I just hope DC don't try to cram in loads of horrible jokes the same way Marvel do.

If the Man of Steel trailer is anything to go by we won't be seeing much jokes.

ancapailldorcha · 30-08-2012 8:49pm

Mickeroo wrote: »

If the Man of Steel trailer is anything to go by we won't be seeing much jokes.

Thank God. I'm sick of all these terrible, trying-to-be-funny, leave your brain at the door pieces of garbage.

Gamb!t · 30-08-2012 9:37pm

Nolan's Batman is going to be very difficult to beat not to mind go on par with IMO.
I'm guessing the new Batman in JL will be decent,there will be a lot of hype and anticipation only for it to be an anti climax when the movie is released and be one of the less successful Batman releases. I could be totally wrong but just have a gut feeling it will suck.

Nervous Wreck · 31-08-2012 12:20am

Mickeroo wrote: »

If the Man of Steel trailer is anything to go by we won't be seeing much jokes.

If Zach Snyder's previous films are anything to go by, the whole film will be a joke.

Let's hope not though. :pac:

ancapailldorcha · 31-08-2012 8:01am

Nervous Wreck wrote: »

If Zach Snyder's previous films are anything to go by, the whole film will be a joke.

Let's hope not though. :pac:

I'm hoping Nolan will be able to prevent it being too bad.

Bullseye1 · 31-08-2012 10:57am

Not sure why Synder gets the bad press from. His adaptation of Watchmen is one of the best comic book movies released to date. Dawn of the Dead was a good remake and 300 was also a good adaptation. Not a fan of Sucker Punch but it did look visually amazing. I quite enjoyed the MoS trailer and have high hopes for the movie.

Nervous Wreck · 31-08-2012 11:04am

Bullseye1 wrote: »

Not sure why Synder gets the bad press from. His adaptation of Watchmen is one of the best comic book movies released to date. Dawn of the Dead was a good remake and 300 was also a good adaptation. Not a fan of Sucker Punch but it did look visually amazing. I quite enjoyed the MoS trailer and have high hopes for the movie.

Watchmen sucked. It captured all of the visuals of the comic and none of the emotion. Dawn of the Dead sucked. Missed the point of the original and had a stupid zombie baby. 300 sucked. Less so, I'll admit.

Sleepy · 31-08-2012 11:20am

I don't see how Watchmen can be said to be anything other than a success tbh. It was considered unfilmable by it's author yet 90% of the fans of the comic liked it, it's opening scene is brilliant by any standard and many, myself included, thought the altered ending was better than the graphic novel's.

300 was braindead. But it was meant to be.

Can't remember if I saw his Dawn of the Dead as tbh, all the "of the dead" movies I've seen have blended into one which, if I've seen it, would mean it was no worse than the Romero movies.

31-08-2012 12:50pm

Dawn of the Dead was an excellent movie, if you take it as a standalone and remove anything to do with the original.

ancapailldorcha · 31-08-2012 1:09pm

I think it's unfair to run Synder down for Watchmen. It's just not something that would make for a good film. There's too much in it. 300 was fun and Dawn of the Dead was just abysmal. Could be worse. We could have got Michael Bay as director.

Mickeroo · 31-08-2012 1:12pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Dawn of the Dead was an excellent movie, if you take it as a standalone and remove anything to do with the original.

Agreed! It's tonnes of fun, just a shame they called it Dawn of the Dead. I like Watchmen and 300 too. Watchman is about as good an adaptation as there could have been, 300 was pure style over substance but it was great on the big screen for the visuals alone. Legend of the Guardians is very underrated too although it could have done with the awful montage bit in the middle which nearly derailed the whole thing.

Considering Sucker Punch is one of the worst films I've sat through in the last few years it seems Snyder should stick to adapting other people's work. His visual flair married to a good script could make for a great Superman film, it could be truly iconic and I'm hoping Nolan can reign him in a bit so he doesn't over do it on the slo mo.

Thwip! · 31-08-2012 1:49pm

John Hamm - Superman
Nathan Fillion - Green Lantern
Emily Deschanel - Wonder Woman
Ryan Reynolds/Neil Patrick Harris - Flash

Nervous Wreck · 31-08-2012 1:51pm

jpcarlow wrote: »

Emily Deschanel - Wonder Woman

That is a great shout.

Mickeroo · 31-08-2012 1:54pm

Had no idea Bones is Zooey Deshanel's sister!

She's definitley got that Lynda Carter-esque sophistication about her.

Sleepy · 31-08-2012 2:15pm

Very, very good casting.

Nervous Wreck · 31-08-2012 2:21pm

Sleepy wrote: »

Very, very good fantasy casting.

FYP.

Thwip! · 31-08-2012 3:29pm

Just imagine it

THE JUSTICE LEAGUE

Superman

Green Lantern

Wonder Woman

The Flash

Batman

Sleepy · 31-08-2012 3:30pm

Friday afternoon must be making me giddy, I read that as "FAP."

Bullseye1 · 01-09-2012 2:53pm

She dressed as tv WW in an episode. Good call.
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ricero · 27-11-2012 5:56pm

Reports today say that levitt will be playing batman in the justice league movie and a rumoured cameo in the upcoming man of steel. I for one would be pleased if they are true

Liam O · 27-11-2012 6:02pm

ricero wrote: »

Reports today say that levitt will be playing batman in the justice league movie and a rumoured cameo in the upcoming man of steel. I for one would be pleased if they are true

He's nowhere near big enough to play Batman.

ricero · 27-11-2012 6:31pm

Liam O wrote: »

He's nowhere near big enough to play Batman.

Nothing a bit of steroids cant fix ;-)

Handsome Bob · 27-11-2012 6:38pm

I always thought that the big selling point with the Justice League was the dynamic between the two big guns, you know, Clark Kent and Bruce Wayne. John Blake and Clark Kent, in comparison, doesn't sound all that enticing to me, and that's a comic book fan talking...so you can only guess the indifference the general audience would have towards it.

I'm 90% sure this isn't true anyway but in the small chance that it is, it'd have to go down as the biggest misfire WB could possibly make in regards to this potential franchise. Not only in terms of hurting the JL franchise, but also a Batman reboot.

Mickeroo · 27-11-2012 6:43pm

S. De Sousa wrote: »

I always thought that the big thing about the Justice League was the dynamic between the two big guns, you know, Clark Kent and Bruce Wayne. John Blake and Clark Kent, in comparison, doesn't sound all that enticing to me, and that's a comic book fan talking...so you can only guess the indifference the general audience would have towards it.

I'm 90% sure this isn't true anyway but in the small chance that it is, it'd have to go down as the biggest misfire WB could possibly make in regards to this potential franchise. Not only in terms of hurting the JL franchise, but also a Batman reboot.

Agreed, not a chance will they launch a whole new Batman film franchise with John Blake as Batman. JL wouldn't be JL without Bruce and Clark's friendship either, for a JL movie to be a success Bats and Supes will have to take centre stage and it won't work if it's not Bruce under the cowl imho.

the whole year inn · 28-11-2012 1:02am

Bullseye1 wrote: »

alexandra daddario

Alexandra Daddario certainly has the look although not six foot. But with SFX it wouldn't be a problem.

Was she just in "Its always Sunny in Philadelphia" sexy piece of gear.

Back on topic,I for one like affleck,He was good in "Boiler Room" and daredevil gets alot of abuse.
I think people just hate him because its the cool thing to do.Seriously there are alot of other actors I hate than ben affleck.

Can someone point me in the direction to the I hate Paul Walker thread!

FlashD · 28-11-2012 6:10pm

I don't think a Justice League idea is a good idea.

If it all goes badly wrong, its going to end up watering down established characters and franchises, most notably Superman and Batman.

Think Alien & Predator. Bad idea all round!

As for Affleck directing, he's a good director when sticking to his genre and from what I see so far that's not fantasy and superheroes.

Mickeroo · 28-11-2012 6:16pm

FlashD wrote: »

I
Think Alien & Predator. Bad idea all round!

While your point is valid (unless they do movies for everyone this is going to be a superman/batman movie rather than a proper ensemble) the comparison with AvP is way off. JLA is a well established series in it's own right with some brilliant story archs, any one of which could make a great film, and have done in animated form already in some cases.

AvP films were shameless cash-ins which showed no respect for either of the series they were supposed to be bringing together, particularly the alien franchise. I liked one or two of the comics I suppose, at least they were set in the actual universe of the films but imho JLA and AvP are chalk and cheese.

I suppose if it all goes wrong like you said, then it could be horrendoues, but I reckon they will put a lot of effort into getting it right. This will be a tent pole for WB where as the studios for AvP obviously only saw AvP as B-movie fodder.

ancapailldorcha · 28-11-2012 9:47pm

I'm guessing WB saw how well The Avengers did at the box office so hopefully this'll get the respect it deserves.

pixelburp · 28-11-2012 9:52pm

I dunno, I'm sure it'll make lots of money in the box-office, but as a concept it seems quite badly thought out. Say what you will about Marvel, they had a plan all along and deliberately built up to the Avengers, using the solo movies as elongated prologues, acclimatising the audience to the various characters. Those multi-movie contracts in particular were a stroke of genius (Hulk notwithstanding) and it ultimately made Wheadon's job relatively easy; the backstories were done, we knew how the relationships fitted together & so it all felt quite natural. Even the most casual of cinemagoers knew who these superheroes were, directly or indirectly; despite the fact (in effect) we were watching the 6th film in the franchise. You couldn't say that about the Harry Potter films, for instance.

On the other hand, the JL universe is a mess. At the moment there's only Superman confirmed, with the Batman films of course operating within its own mythology / universe. Ditto the Green Lantern: the rest of the JL crew are MIA. So arguably DC should have gone with their own set of solo/prologue films, to break in the less popular characters & the new Batman. Give the audience time to familiarise themselves with Wonder Woman, The Martian Manhunter, but especially the new Batman. Instead they're galloping towards a 2015 straight off the bat - which means the JL movie will have to cram in all the characters' backstories & relationships on-top of its (likely) convoluted setup & need for splashy set-pieces. I can't see how this won't be a mess.

Mickeroo · 28-11-2012 10:02pm

pixelburp wrote: »

I dunno, I'm sure it'll make lots of money in the box-office, but as a concept it seems quite badly thought out. Say what you will about Marvel, they had a plan all along and deliberately built up to the Avengers, using the solo movies as elongated prologues, acclimatising the audience to the various characters. Those multi-movie contracts in particular were a stroke of genius (Hulk notwithstanding) and it ultimately made Wheadon's job relatively easy; the backstories were done, we knew how the relationships fitted together & so it all felt quite natural. Even the most casual of cinemagoers knew who these superheroes were, directly or indirectly; despite the fact (in effect) we were watching the 6th film in the franchise. You couldn't say that about the Harry Potter films, for instance.

On the other hand, the JL universe is a mess. At the moment there's only Superman confirmed, with the Batman films of course operating within its own mythology / universe. Ditto the Green Lantern: the rest of the JL crew are MIA. So arguably DC should have gone with their own set of solo/prologue films, to break in the less popular characters & the new Batman. Give the audience time to familiarise themselves with Wonder Woman, The Martian Manhunter, but especially the new Batman. Instead they're galloping towards a 2015 straight off the bat - which means the JL movie will have to cram in all the characters' backstories & relationships on-top of its (likely) convoluted setup & need for splashy set-pieces. I can't see how this won't be a mess.

I agree they should have followed the Marvel model. Would be better off rebooting Batman first, tie him in with man of steel then do Flash, Wonder Woman and MM in their own movies. No need to reboot GL even if the film was poor. Since they're not doing that they should just have a bit of faith in the audience and forget about fitting all the origins in, just act like everything is established alreadly. arguably most of the JL characters are more recogniseable to the average joe than The Avengers were before the films came out anyway, so I think they could do that if they want to.

splashthecash · 29-11-2012 11:04am

Read this yesterday...my question is: Will JGL be the same character is he was in the last Batman film in Nolan's universe? Or is it just a coincidence that he was taking over the Batman role from Bruce Wayne..

Its obvious though that DC are taking the same approach as Marvel did for the hugely successful Avengers

Looking forward to Man of Steel...seeing Batman slipped in at the very end would be very exciting!

http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2012/nov/27/joseph-gordon-levitt-batman-justice-league

Joseph Gordon-Levitt could be set to play Batman in the latest high-profile superhero ensemble film, Justice League, a prominent US blogger has revealed.

Drew McWeeny of Hit Flix quotes sources who say Gordon-Levitt will "absolutely" appear as the caped crusader, alongside Superman and Wonder Woman, in the DC Comics adaptation. He also suggests Batman could show up in Man of Steel, Warner Brothers' forthcoming Zack Snyder-directed Superman reboot, possibly in a post credits sequence.

"They're a long way from filming anything Justice League related, but [Warner] appear to be solidifying deals for Gordon-Levitt and, potentially, at least one other actor from the Nolan films to do … something," writes McWeeny. "So let's take what we know and speculate a little bit. How crazy do you think fans would go if Superman were to take to the skies at the end of Man of Steel, finally ready to fully accept his role as mankind's most powerful protector, only to have the closing credits interrupted when something catches his attention and he swoops down out of that sky, landing on a rooftop where Jim Gordon stands next to the Bat-Signal, interrupting just as the new Batman arrives for a chat about Gotham's latest problem?"

The report has resonance because Gordon-Levitt's Gotham police officer John Blake was revealed to be Batman's sidekick Robin at the end of Warner's recent conclusion to its Batman trilogy, The Dark Knight Rises. With Christian Bale's Bruce Wayne either dead or stepping away from the cowl and cape at the end of that film, there has been speculation that Blake could step into his shoes.
Hit Flix's report follows comments by Snyder in an interview with the New York Post at the weekend, during which he hinted that his 2013 film would be used to "set up" Justice League, with Henry Cavill potentially appearing as Superman in both films. Warner Bros has previously confirmed the latter movie will arrive in cinemas in 2015. There are increasing indications that the studio is looking to use Man of Steel as a launchpad for a series of linked movies set in the DC Comics universe, just as Disney's Marvel Studios did with its selection of films (beginning with 2008's Iron Man) that set up this year's $1.5bn blockbuster The Avengers.

Asked if he and Warner had discussed integrating Man of Steel into a larger superhero universe, Snyder told the Post: "Um, how can I answer that? I can't really say anything to that, because that's a big spoiler. I will say, yeah, they trust me to keep them on course."
Man of Steel, which stars British actor Henry Cavill as Superman with Amy Adams as Lois Lane, Russell Crowe as Jor-El and Kevin Costner as Jonathan Kent, is due in cinemas in June next year. Production is being "godfathered" by The Dark Knight Rises' Christopher Nolan, increasing speculation of a tie-in.

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Justice League Spoilers from post 980 onward