UCI Racing News/Results 2020 (Spoiler Alert)

velo.2010 · 03-08-2020 6:39pm #1

Didn't see an appropriate thread for recent racing news so decided to start this.

Rims brakes finished first and second in yesterday's Strade Bianche!

Big news today is that Bernal has all but cemeted his position as Team Ineos leader for the Tour. He won the queen stage of the Route d'Occitanie in the Pyreness, while his teammate, Pavel Sivakov, came home a close second — Froome was a distant 32nd, over 5 minutes down.

I was of the opinion that Froome would go to the Tour if only for the fact that he is a four time champion, but today would make me think twice about that assumption. Sivakov looks like he could step into the role of 'third man' behind Bernal and a presumably fit and healthy Thomas. It's difficult to find a place for Froome if he doesn't shape up with a month to go.

BTW, Wiggins has had his say and thinks Thomas will win this year. He also thinks Froome can bounce back in 2021 and win a fifth Tour.

03-08-2020 7:25pm

Ineos seem to have a team in place around Carapaz for the Giro including Dunbar, nothing announced for la Vuelta though so Froome or Thomas for that one maybe? I can't see Froome getting a nod for the tour but I haven't seen the stage today so no idea if it was due to poor form or if he was actively helping Bernal. Odd the lack of coverage for that race, I don't think it's been live at all with just an hours highlights in the evening.

Felt sorry for Rob Hatch and Brian Smith trying to cover the race in Italy today. Weather meant only the fixed cameras around the finish were working so they had to abandon and put the snooker on. What was shown was kind of funny though, it was bucketing down and a few lads caught sight of their team bus and climbed off.

Eamonnator · 03-08-2020 7:36pm

If you're going to include results on the same day as racing, perhaps it might be an idea to have the title amended, so that it states that there are spoilers included in the thread.

velo.2010 · 03-08-2020 8:16pm

Eamonnator wrote: »

If you're going to include results on the same day as racing, perhaps it might be an idea to have the title amended, so that it states that there are spoilers included in the thread.

Hadn't considered that, thanks for reminding me. Mods can change/advise if necessary.

TheBlaaMan · 04-08-2020 9:32am

Last 20minutes or so of yesterdays 3rd stage of Route d'Occitanie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAgkGBh0R7E&app=desktop

Given his position in the train Froome was never intending to compete for the win and was working for Bernal. He pulled for c2km and then eased off. I dont think you can draw conclusions re the Tour; I still dont think they'll bring him, but hope they do !

dastardly00 · 05-08-2020 5:00pm

10 km to go in Milan-Torino.
Sam, Ewan, Sagan, Gaviria and Demare all there

dastardly00 · 05-08-2020 5:07pm

Big crash with a few kilometres to go. Sam still up there

dastardly00 · 05-08-2020 5:17pm

Strong finish by Demare to win.

Sam was in a good position behind Archibold with 2 km to go, but then he lost his wheel and fell back behind a lot of other riders. He had to make up a good bit of ground after the Flame Rouge and when the sprint started, Sam was in about 10th position. He decided to go for a gap on the inside near the barriers but then he got blocked by Demare's last leadout man. He had to ease up and finished way back

cunavalos · 05-08-2020 5:30pm

Shocking crash at the finish in Poland, replays do not look good but I hope everyone including riders spectators and officials are ok.

Dcully · 05-08-2020 5:32pm

Worst crash I've seen in a long time ,fingers crossed for those involved.

MojoMaker · 05-08-2020 5:47pm

Put up the Polish race name please, for those of us with busy schedules.

Daroxtar · 05-08-2020 6:00pm

Air ambulance on the way and podium ceremony cancelled. Not good. Patrick Lafevre gone apesh!t on twitter calling for Groningen to be jailed

05-08-2020 6:10pm

Haven't the will to watch it again to see how much of that was Groenewegen's fault. Horrible crash.

cunavalos · 05-08-2020 6:21pm

Reports from twitter suggest Jakobsen was placed in an induced coma for transport to hospital and the finish line commisaire is also in a critical condition.

velo.2010 · 05-08-2020 6:27pm

cunavalos wrote: »

Reports from twitter suggest Jakobsen was placed in an induced coma for transport to hospital and the finish line commisaire is also in a critical condition.

Damn, not good news. Hope both come through this.

godtabh · 05-08-2020 6:39pm

Down hill sprints? Who needs that. They are fast enough as is.

dastardly00 · 05-08-2020 7:03pm

Horrible, horrible crash

Glencarraig · 05-08-2020 7:07pm

Daroxtar wrote: »

Air ambulance on the way and podium ceremony cancelled. Not good. Patrick Lafevre gone apesh!t on twitter calling for Groningen to be jailed

Rightly so, was a criminal act, a blatent elbow that sent the poor lad through the barriers.

05-08-2020 7:19pm

Disqualified and stage awarded to Jakobsen according to pro cycling stats.

Chris871 · 05-08-2020 7:30pm

That was a horrible crash, as bad as I've ever seen. Fingers crossed both Jakobsen and the photographer/official make a full recovery.

05-08-2020 10:33pm

UCI not happy and referring it to a disciplinary commision, Jumbo Visma saying they will handle it internally before making comment.

https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/dylan-groenewegen-facing-disciplinary-action-after-tour-de-pologne-crash/

eeeee · 05-08-2020 11:48pm

Horrendous crash.

I don't think a wide, downhill sprint with flimsy metal barriers is a great idea.
Groenewegen should have held his line, completely wrong there, but the damage could have possibly been less at a slower speed.
A timing official in a serious condition too.

I hope all make it through with no long term damage.

dastardly00 · 05-08-2020 11:52pm

Update from https://www.deceuninck-quickstep.com/en/news/4473/fabio-jakobsen-update

Fabio Jakobsen’s situation is serious but at the moment he is stable. Diagnostic test didn’t reveal brain or spinal injury, but because of the gravity of his multiple injuries he is still kept in a comatose condition and has to remain closely monitored in the following days at the Wojewódzki Szpital in Katowice.

eeeee · 05-08-2020 11:57pm

Great news, I know it's early days but good to hear tests didn't reveal brain or spinal injuries.

I hope the official is also going to be ok

webpal · 06-08-2020 12:04am

Was looking forward to watching this on Eurosport but I noticed earlier it had disappeared from the epg. After a quick search, I suspect they didn't want to show the finish and hence pulled the whole programme. Looked horrific

fishfoodie · 06-08-2020 12:58am

Deleted User wrote: »

UCI not happy and referring it to a disciplinary commision, Jumbo Visma saying they will handle it internally before making comment.

https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/dylan-groenewegen-facing-disciplinary-action-after-tour-de-pologne-crash/

It's all bloody well for the UCI to be outraged; but their running this sh*tshow; & they're the ones who can; both fix the last km, so that sprinters & their trains are protected; & they're the ones who can bring in serious bans for those who injure other through their actions.

Talk is fu*kin cheap; show us actions !!!!

neris · 06-08-2020 8:41am

BBC sport website dating jakobsens in a coma and not looking good.

mr spuckler · 06-08-2020 9:15am

neris wrote: »

BBC sport website dating jakobsens in a coma and not looking good.

Serious but stable is the description issued by the team, saying he's in a medically induced coma. Fingers crossed for him.

The organisers also confirmed the race official suffered a head injury and is now stable.

mr spuckler · 06-08-2020 11:33am

Further updates here.

Speaking to naszosie.pl on Wednesday, the Tour de Pologne race doctor described the injuries sustained as “very serious” and “life-threatening”, adding that Jakobsen had suffered “a very serious head trauma, a crushed palate and upper respiratory tract” and “lost a lot of blood,” which made intubation difficult.

“Fabio had facial surgery during the night. His situation is stable at the moment and later today the doctors will try to wake Fabio up,” read the statement.

Paddigol · 06-08-2020 12:08pm

From a non-racer's perspective, the lack of consideration shown towards elite athletes by their governing body - year after year, incident after incident - seems shocking. Groenewegen is taking a massive amount of heat on this (I can only imagine where his head is at), but the race organisers and UCI really need to take a long hard look at themselves before throwing him under the bus. Racing is inherently dangerous, that's never disputed. And you rarely hear complaints from smashed up riders who get injured in the normal course of racing (think Dan Martin in the TDF tangle with Richie Porte a few years back). But to throw extra, man-made, dangers in their way (which again as a non-racer the downhill sprint finish seems to be) is difficult to justify.

Sickening incident. Hope that Jakobsen somehow makes a miraculous recovery.

Macy0161 · 06-08-2020 12:15pm

webpal wrote: »

Was looking forward to watching this on Eurosport but I noticed earlier it had disappeared from the epg. After a quick search, I suspect they didn't want to show the finish and hence pulled the whole programme. Looked horrific

GCN also didn't have it on their Race Pass section.

Paddigol wrote: »

And you rarely hear complaints from smashed up riders who get injured in the normal course of racing (think Dan Martin in the TDF tangle with Richie Porte a few years back). But to throw extra, man-made, dangers in their way (which again as a non-racer the downhill sprint finish seems to be) is difficult to justify.

I think both Richie and Dan did complain about that to be fair. iirc comments like the organisers getting what they wanted.

neris · 06-08-2020 1:08pm

I saw a clip on youtube last night of the eurosport commentary and Rob Hatch was very apologetic that the crash kept getting replayed from different angles and was saying it was the Polish broadcaster who kept repeating it

06-08-2020 3:42pm

Lovely to see racing up Mont Ventoux today, always a spectacle.

joujoujou · 06-08-2020 3:47pm

Watching 2nd stage live on Polish TV right now, and interview with hospital representative (where Jakobsen is currently treated), head Doctor of Neurological Unit.

Fabio is still kept in induced coma, but probably will be woken up from it later tonight. X-ray and CT scans both confirmed no brain injuries.

Fingers crossed for quick recovery.

MojoMaker · 06-08-2020 7:38pm

Dear God, that was horrific. Prayers for the young lad indeed.

Downhill sprints, jesus.

velo.2010 · 06-08-2020 8:59pm

Positive news about Jacobsen. Hopefully a full recovery.

Pedersen won his first race as World Champion in stage 2. Outdragged Ackerman on the long run to the line. Good for him, and maybe he can pick up a few more results as its not long before he hands that jersey over.

This Russian lad, Vlasov, is a machine. He tore up the Ventoux today and put himself into the Grand Tour picture, if that's the plan for him. Good ride from Porte too.

06-08-2020 9:25pm

Porte was much better than I was expecting there today. Letour is like me going uphill on a bike with the shapes he was pulling and the swinging

Delighted for Pedersen and a bit of a scalp for him to have taken there I think against Ackerman.

velo.2010 · 07-08-2020 2:41pm

Tour de L'Ain starts today. Ineos and Jumbo Visma have assembled perhaps the strongest teams ever seen outside of a Tour de France line-up.

Ineos: Froome, Thomas, Bernal, Amador, Geoghegan-Hart, Amador
Jumbo Visma: Dumoulin, Roglic, Kruiswijk, Bennett, Martin, Gesink

Edit. Stage 1 just finished. Apparently a bit of GC movement with a ramp to the finish line — Roglic finished second. Highlights later on Eurosport.

07-08-2020 3:42pm

Jumbo Visma did well with the Slovenian national champs jersey.

TheBlaaMan · 07-08-2020 8:16pm

It is going to be a long road to recovery for Jakobsen. He had his windpipe crushed, all his teeth knocked out and most bones on the front of his face were broken. Horrific injuries and it will be a while before he gets back on a bike, let alone wants to race, I suspect.

Stage 3 of the TdP was interesting today. What was the plan with Dunbar ? Despite being at the back of the 5 man train in the finale, I expected him to bury himself for Carapaz on the final ramp and yet he neither led him out (may not have been able to...) nor sat up, but instead kept hammering away on his own line and was of very little value to his leader. Is he Plan B ? It seemed odd.

07-08-2020 8:34pm

I genuinely thought he was going to go for it just before Carapaz went given his position in the train

Maybe thats what they wanted people to think. I wasn't watching Carapaz at all at that point and was focused on Dunbar.

jimbobaloobob · 07-08-2020 11:22pm

TheBlaaMan wrote: »

It is going to be a long road to recovery for Jakobsen. He had his windpipe crushed, all his teeth knocked out and most bones on the front of his face were broken. Horrific injuries and it will be a while before he gets back on a bike, let alone wants to race, I suspect.

Is there any info on the race official. Is he ok?

I wonder would lateral lines in the last 200m make it easier for sprinters to hold their line. I’d imagine they would be less likely to stray and throw an elbow if it was clear to them they were crossing lines into the path of another. In saying that I know it’s the heat of the moment reaction.

velo.2010 · 08-08-2020 2:54pm

Roglic and Jumbo Visma, the rider and team to beat at the Tour.

retalivity · 08-08-2020 7:16pm

velo.2010 wrote: »

Roglic and Jumbo Visma, the rider and team to beat at the Tour.

I didnt realise how stacked the Jumbo team is, probably more so than Ineos: Roglic, Dumoulin, Bennett, Kruijswijk, Gesink, Van Aert, probably all going to the Tour, along with Tony Martin, maybe Kuss & Teunissen.

Also in Poland, Evenepol taking the absolute piss.

velo.2010 · 08-08-2020 8:41pm

retalivity wrote: »

I didnt realise how stacked the Jumbo team is, probably more so than Ineos: Roglic, Dumoulin, Bennett, Kruijswijk, Gesink, Van Aert, probably all going to the Tour, along with Tony Martin, maybe Kuss & Teunissen.

Also in Poland, Evenepol taking the absolute piss.

Only read the report, but yeah, monster performance from Evenepol in Poland. We'll see just how good he is when it comes to 3 week GC racing at the Giro.

The cream has certainly risen to the top in only a week and a half of racing so far.

08-08-2020 9:03pm

Was the crash involving Carapaz shown? I only saw the last 30km or so and I think they only showed him once with his jersey in tatters.

Eamonnator · 08-08-2020 9:14pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Was the crash involving Carapaz shown? I only saw the last 30km or so and I think they only showed him once with his jersey in tatters.

Yes, it was. I happened on a straight stretch of road, touch of wheels, three or four came down.

dastardly00 · 08-08-2020 9:34pm

Class act

https://twitter.com/deceuninck_qst/status/1292144098040782850

Macy0161 · 10-08-2020 4:21pm

velo.2010 wrote: »

Only read the report, but yeah, monster performance from Evenepol in Poland. We'll see just how good he is when it comes to 3 week GC racing at the Giro.

Watched this stage this morning. Not to downplay it, but the rest of them played right into his hands. Everyone just sat on Eddie, and then it was just attack/ sit up until Fulgsang/ Yates/ Majka stuck.

I'd say not a great last week or so of racing for Ineos.

TheBlaaMan · 10-08-2020 7:51pm

The Criterium de Dauphine starts on Wednesday and should be some battle between the top two. The teams are both stacked with talent !

bazermc · 10-08-2020 8:52pm

Oh I forgot Domoulin was with Lotto Jumbo now

UCI Racing News/Results 2020 (Spoiler Alert)

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