Aer Lingus Fleet/Routes Discussion

b757 · 08-05-2015 11:13pm

-DEO

SNN-DUB 2130L Sat 9th

lord lucan · 09-05-2015 1:06am

b757 wrote: »

-DEO

SNN-DUB 2130L Sat 9th

Alway under the cover of darkness, the bastards!

2015LC1 · 10-05-2015 12:48am

Will the current seating on DEO be changed for EI service since the seats weren't the normal shade?

L1011 · 10-05-2015 4:55am

2015LC1 wrote: »

Will the current seating on DEO be changed for EI service since the seats weren't the normal shade?

Considering the 2? 4? 319s and 2 320s still with Iberia seats, I'd suspect not.

goingnowhere · 10-05-2015 10:05am

2015LC1 wrote: »

Will the current seating on DEO be changed for EI service since the seats weren't the normal shade?

Who cares about the seats, do we get to keep the Virgin mood lighting?

Tenger · 10-05-2015 12:07pm

L1011 wrote: »

Considering the 2? 4? 319s and 2 320s still with Iberia seats, I'd suspect not.

I believe they changed the 2 A320 (-EDS, -EDP) after about a year......no chnages so far on the A319 however.

Bussywussy · 10-05-2015 12:12pm

2015LC1 wrote: »

Will the current seating on DEO be changed for EI service since the seats weren't the normal shade?

Was done weeks ago in Dublin,cabin lighting also changed to normal.

Razor44 · 10-05-2015 1:16pm

Tenger wrote: »

I believe they changed the 2 A320 (-EDS, -EDP) after about a year......no chnages so far on the A319 however.

having been on EDP back from FAO last summer (late late flight hence the 319), i wouldn't want to repeat it. i found the seat very uncomfortable.

L1011 · 10-05-2015 2:14pm

Tenger wrote: »

I believe they changed the 2 A320 (-EDS, -EDP) after about a year......no chnages so far on the A319 however.

Was on one of the 320s in March, same seats just spaced properly

Jack1985 · 11-05-2015 10:17pm

All short-haul aircraft will undergo a cabin refit this coming winter, allowing for installation of WiFi and enhanced Business product offering on popular routes LHR/LGW/AMS/CDG/ZRH/GVA. Unfortunately the mood lighting was removed from DEO when the standard cabin was re-installed, but who knows maybe moodlighting will make an appearance during the winter re-fits.

JCX BXC · 11-05-2015 10:20pm

Including the soon to be outsourced A319's?

Jack1985 · 11-05-2015 10:27pm

Carnacalla wrote: »

Including the soon to be outsourced A319's?

You answered your own question there

JCX BXC · 11-05-2015 10:30pm

Jack1985 wrote: »

You answered your own question there

Did I?

Tenger · 11-05-2015 10:31pm

Jack1985 wrote: »

All short-haul aircraft will undergo a cabin refit this coming winter, allowing for installation of WiFi and enhanced Business product offering on popular routes LHR/LGW/AMS/CDG/ZRH/GVA......

I'm sorry....but WTF?
I'm a fan of that happening but adding some sort of J Class product is a huge step. I would have thought an announcement would be made on that point
(not complaining as I feel EI would need to add Y+ to keep distance from and attraction against the 'new' FR)

Jack1985 · 11-05-2015 10:37pm

Tenger wrote: »

I'm sorry....but WTF?
I'm a fan of that happening but adding some sort of J Class product is a huge step. I would have thought an announcement would be made on that point
(not complaining as I feel EI would need to add Y+ to keep distance from and attraction against the 'new' FR)

There's defiantly no business class cabin return, rather a similar approach to BA's blocking of a seat if plans progress. Talk of sockets for the first few rows etc, nothing concrete but the re-fit this winter allows the opportunity to do it.

Jack1985 · 11-05-2015 11:10pm

Announcement on the extension of the new DUB-IAD route from late Oct to January due shortly. Very positive forward bookings have led to the fairly short-notice decision.

ronnie147 · 13-05-2015 10:21pm

I'v flown on 2 of the A319's (EPS & EPT) the seats on them seem to be very cramped compared to the A320's, Any one know what the seat pitch is on these? SeatGuru mentions its a split cabin?

highlydebased · 13-05-2015 10:33pm

First few rows still have business pitch. I heard 2 were reconfigured to change this. I was recently on both EPS and EPU and they both still had the better pitch up front. I always get seat 3A as a result ;-)

JCX BXC · 17-05-2015 12:29pm

Question about the Omni 767-200 to be leased.

Do EI already have it? I've seen reports that it was very recently sent in for painting into EI colours (Or partly in them).

Also, will it appear on FR24, I have my bets on it won't, but I hope it will.

Tenger · 17-05-2015 12:51pm

Carnacalla wrote: »

Question about the Omni 767-200 to be leased.

Do EI already have it? I've seen reports that it was very recently sent in for painting into EI colours (Or partly in them).

Also, will it appear on FR24, I have my bets on it won't, but I hope it will.

Doubt they already have it. It will appear soon enough. I think the lease is June-July-August.

Might be an option to try a dummy booking on EI.com to look for the planned start dates.

JCX BXC · 17-05-2015 12:53pm

Tenger wrote: »

Doubt they already have it. It will appear soon enough. I think the lease is June-July-August.

Might be an option to try a dummy booking on EI.com to look for the planned start dates.

Done it already it starts June 8th. Seat plans available. Lease ends then in late august, something like the 28th.

Nibs05 · 18-05-2015 6:04pm

Carnacalla wrote: »

Question about the Omni 767-200 to be leased.

Do EI already have it? I've seen reports that it was very recently sent in for painting into EI colours (Or partly in them).

Also, will it appear on FR24, I have my bets on it won't, but I hope it will.

Omni air 767 was in service today in omni air international livery

b757 · 18-05-2015 6:31pm

Carnacalla wrote: »

Question about the Omni 767-200 to be leased.

Do EI already have it? I've seen reports that it was very recently sent in for painting into EI colours (Or partly in them).

Also, will it appear on FR24, I have my bets on it won't, but I hope it will.

Not yet, just filling in the past few days until the ~22nd.

A319er · 18-05-2015 8:10pm

Touch wood but the 8th A330 , due back Wednesday , it's been
Re painted reconfigured and rebuilt!

So at last some signs of stability !

JCX BXC · 18-05-2015 10:31pm

b757 wrote: »

Not yet, just filling in the past few days until the ~22nd.

Do you know what the story is after that? When will EI get the 767 and refit the business class?

b757 · 18-05-2015 11:03pm

Carnacalla wrote: »

Do you know what the story is after that? When will EI get the 767 and refit the business class?

Late May/Early June, no refit due to lease being only 3 months.

Omni Plane, Omni crew, Aer Lingus flight number and possibly titles.

JCX BXC · 18-05-2015 11:13pm

b757 wrote: »

Late May/Early June, no refit due to lease being only 3 months.

Omni Plane, Omni crew, Aer Lingus flight number and possibly titles.

Incorrect, a business class will be fitted.

Tenger · 18-05-2015 11:42pm

b757 wrote: »

Late May/Early June, no refit due to lease being only 3 months.

Omni Plane, Omni crew, Aer Lingus flight number and possibly titles.

Carnacalla looked at EI.com and says it is June 8th-Aug 28th.

JCX BXC · 18-05-2015 11:43pm

Tenger wrote: »

EI.com

This amuses me

I'm sure I've done it before though.

I can also confirm it operates from the 8th of June. The B757-200 then goes to Dublin to operate the DUB-JFK for the duration of the 767 lease.

Tenger · 18-05-2015 11:51pm

Carnacalla wrote: »

This amuses me I'm sure I've done it before though.....

You have.......

JCX BXC · 20-05-2015 4:43pm

EI-EWR just back from Bordeaux.

Tenger · 20-05-2015 6:04pm

A mate was supposed to go to MCO today...it was subbed for a B767 (obviously due EWR only back today) He texted to saw it "was like going back in time"
He says he will takes pics to show me.

JCX BXC · 20-05-2015 6:12pm

Tenger wrote: »

A mate was supposed to go to MCO today...it was subbed for a B767 (obviously due EWR only back today) He texted to saw it "was like going back in time"
He says he will takes pics to show me.

Post them here if you can

I think its the 767-300 he is on, them ones have no PTV's!!!

Tenger · 20-05-2015 6:54pm

Carnacalla wrote: »

....I think its the 767-300 he is on, them ones have no PTV's!!!

That explains his shocked text

Preset No.3 · 20-05-2015 7:32pm

The desperate times that we live in that we can't do without wifi or tv for a few hours. Maybe he could do the old fashioned art of talking and think about going on holiday to Orlando!!!

Tenger · 20-05-2015 7:37pm

Preset No.3 wrote: »

The desperate times that we live in that we can't do without wifi or tv for a few hours. Maybe he could do the old fashioned art of talking and think about going on holiday to Orlando!!!

Indeed. I know that He'll be grand, he'll have a paper and a few beers. Wouldnt boter him too much. But for many others this would seem like punishment.

personally I'm a reader and a sleeper on planes.

Razor44 · 20-05-2015 8:20pm

chaps, the 4th 757 is due for 2016, will we be seeing it in Dublin in the off season, i.e late 15 or early 16?

billie1b · 20-05-2015 8:20pm

Here's a picture of the Omni that subbed for Aer Lingus the last couple of weeks , for some reason I cant't embed it, my browser keeps crashing everytime I try, maybe Tenger can edit it there and try embed it (I just took a guess and pasted the IMG link into your post)

JCX BXC · 20-05-2015 8:24pm

Razor44 wrote: »

chaps, the 4th 757 is due for 2016, will we be seeing it in Dublin in the off season, i.e late 15 or early 16?

There's a 4th 757 due? What will it operate?

zone 1 · 20-05-2015 8:28pm

more boeings.....fleet becoming old

Razor44 · 20-05-2015 8:28pm

Carnacalla wrote: »

There's a 4th 757 due? What will it operate?

there a 5th to come as well! in 2019. unless of course EI move on the A321NeoLR in the mean time and the order changes. I assume they want the 757's to open up thinner routes and give EI more scope in terms of wides bodys. They hope to have 9 A350's eventually.4

page 20 http://corporate.aerlingus.com/investorrelations/regulatorynews/2014pressreleases/AerLingus_september_analyst_presentation.pdf

JCX BXC · 20-05-2015 8:31pm

I assume that the 4th will be based in DUB?

Preset No.3 · 20-05-2015 10:12pm

zone 1 wrote: »

more boeings.....fleet becoming old

And this will affect you how?

zone 1 · 21-05-2015 9:30am

your right it wont affect me in anyway? i was just saying having 20 plus year old planes cost lot to run . i see there getting 767 20 plus years old . just wondering...

Tenger · 21-05-2015 9:43am

zone 1 wrote: »

your right it wont affect me in anyway? i was just saying having 20 plus year old planes cost lot to run . i see there getting 767 20 plus years old . just wondering...

Well the B757's are on a 4-5 year damp lease operation. So EI pay a flat rate and Air Contractors are dealing with the running costs of the B757's.
And there really is no alternative to the B757's......B767/A330 is larger and thus harder to fill, A320/B737 dont have the range to compete with it...........
.....at least until Airbus get the A321LR into the air.

The Omni B767 is a 12 week lease. So EI aren't 'running it' either.

I do get your point about older aircraft. The travelling public do look at aircraft age, not realising that this is less important with aviation than with ground transport. But if the alternative is leasing higher priced newer aircraft which mean higher tickets then the short term older aircraft are a good choice.

zone 1 · 21-05-2015 10:19am

cheers tenger

JCX BXC · 21-05-2015 4:26pm

Where's the capacity coming from for this short haul expansion? Or is or already left over capacity from the summer?

goingnowhere · 21-05-2015 4:29pm

Carnacalla wrote: »

Where's the capacity coming from for this short haul expansion? Or is or already left over capacity from the summer?

2 320's from the now terminated Virgin contact?

man98 · 21-05-2015 4:32pm

Carnacalla wrote: »

Where's the capacity coming from for this short haul expansion? Or is or already left over capacity from the summer?

Little Red ops I suppose? They have another due back, and the Agadir (summer only before?) and Liverpool routes are opening this winter, that should cover it.

Snow Leopard · 21-05-2015 10:55pm

There's a general obsession nowadays with having the newest of everything.

Aircraft manufactured in 97-98 are not old aircraft. Certainly middle-aged, but not old. The vast majority of BA's long-haul frames for example were manufactured between 1990 and 2000, and the majority of these will continue operating well into the 2020s.

A rigorous maintenance programme combined with a cabin refurb every 8-10 years keep aircraft in excellent shape. Anyone who has flown the EI B757s will testify to this. And as mentioned above, there is simply no replacement for the B757 currently available. Without these aircraft the SNN operation would be long gone and it's highly unlikely that YYZ would ever operate over the winter. The A321neoLR will be a fantastic replacement though.

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