Oiling up the Tape Players out in Montrose.

JonathanAnon · 31-12-2009 3:57pm

This issue really bugs me.. Kenny, Duffy, Tubridy and the rest all away for the two weeks, when the RTE minions like PBH and Myles "do I ever stfu up about history" Dungan are still in working. Is seems to substantiate my own belief that we have this elite in our public service that are treated like royalty.

On the radio now, Joe Duffy's boring interviews from the Arás.. with Joe emphasizing on tonight New Year's Eve... I was really fooled by that Joe, so he's up there now is he.

mike65 · 31-12-2009 4:06pm

Pat Kenny was in a couple of times this week but nothing tomorrow needless to say. Morning Ireland is the worst - 8 am start and no actual programme to speak of - just loads of "themed" nonsense.

JonathanAnon · 31-12-2009 5:36pm

Recorded interviews with Miriam now, Des Bishop's brother. Why dont they just announce at the start of the christmas that RTE radio is effectively closing down for the next two weeks?

was hoping somebody would be on DriveTime, but looks like its The Right Hook with Ger Gilroy... At least a sign that one person has borrowed the keys and opened up the station for the day.

FlutterinBantam · 31-12-2009 7:00pm

I'll have to say I enjoyed the Miriam interview with the Bishops.

Fcuking Ronan Collins on for two hours is what gets me.

Is it a coincidence that the prog. is sponsored by Odlums

Never varies!!

Nightwish · 31-12-2009 7:29pm

I must say I quite liked Ronan Collins these past few days. Maybe its because I am usually forced to listen to chart sh!te played ad nauseum in work, Ronan's show was a breath of fresh air. IMHO anyway!

FlutterinBantam · 31-12-2009 7:36pm

yeah OK... different strokes and all that.

More Music · 01-01-2010 4:03pm

Exactly.

JonathanAnon · 01-01-2010 4:14pm

Everybody was pretending that it was New Year's Day in the Aras (probably studio 3) today. More nonsense, usual Mary Mcaleese bullsh1t, a person who gets paid multiples of the average working wage.... telling us all that things will be positive in the future, that we've come through hard times, the Irish people are great..... load of sh1te from her same as usual.. I have huge respect for her personal achievements, but none for her pontificating ..incidentally, has anybody got Alan O'Brien's mobile?

Least Mooney is making some effort. Seems to be a live show today. Actually started to like Mooney's show last year. He's a down to earth guy, asks direct questions, and cracks me up sometimes with his off the wall humour. Wonder why they never considered him for the LLS.

Dan Dare · 01-01-2010 4:51pm

I enjoyed Miriam O'Callaghan's interview with the Bishops (not the clerical sort), todays repeat is her interview with Brian Lenihan and Mary O'Rourke.

FlutterinBantam · 01-01-2010 4:59pm

yeah,me too, thats the kind of thing you need if they HAVE to put the kip on automatic pilot for the two weeks.

Not that mindless fcuking music we got up to 0900 and then between 1100 and 1300.

For fcuks sake at least try to make it interesting.

robo · 01-01-2010 5:01pm

These are all available to listen to on the Radio 1 site or download as podcasts, should our license fee be used to broadcast re-runs all over Christmas.

JonathanAnon · 01-01-2010 8:18pm

robo wrote: »

These are all available to listen to on the Radio 1 site or download as podcasts, should our license fee be used to broadcast re-runs all over Christmas.

Yeah I meant to make this point before. I've listened to many of the programs already on the podcast.

That program with Brian Lenihan and Mary O'Rourke really annoys me. Accepting no responsibility for the situation the country is in. Thinking its good enough to say that "we'd do a better job than the other lot".. Mary O'Rourke is a pompous, arrogant, and condescending person. Sooner she retires or loses her seat, the better.

Off the ball seems to be live on Newstalk.. Different tape running on Radio now.

deadhead13 · 01-01-2010 9:39pm

I'm surprised Ronan hasn't joined Larry in 2fm's fab "new" lineup.

humberklog · 02-01-2010 12:44am

Tuned in too for the 2nd time around for the the Bishops. Good, decent radio. Still struck me as interesting and entertaining.

I found myself enjoying Tubridy too?! I'm not a fan at all but thought him a bit more relaxed and personable than I had previously. He turned in a good interview with Gavin Jennings on News at One aswell. Hmmm...could be the grog but I still couldn't help enjoying the bits of him I caught.

Thing about that Conversations programme that really annoyed me was the Pres's intros. Telling us that we're a wonderful, honest, strong, proud, decent, courageous, moralistic nation just stuck in my craw. Looking back on such a year of exposed self imposed financial and social abortions over a long period of time I really don't think she's doing her seat any justice by ignoring the more obvious...that these are values we need to gather in. Learn to form, understand at depth. She picked a peculiar year to stick such tags on a nation as opposed as using them as sign posts of where we should be going.

JonathanAnon · 02-01-2010 2:40pm

humberklog wrote: »

Thing about that Conversations programme that really annoyed me was the Pres's intros. Telling us that we're a wonderful, honest, strong, proud, decent, courageous, moralistic nation just stuck in my craw.

She sounded like a christmas card and a get well card all in one. Arbitrary, painfully non-offensive drivel... same as her and Mary Robinson always deliver.

FlutterinBantam · 02-01-2010 4:15pm

Yep, you have a point there.

Gratuitous rhetoric with no substance of any kind.

FlutterinBantam · 04-01-2010 6:40pm

Jeez I nearly bust my buns this morning!!!

RTE coming on all aghast and po faced over the lack of gritting over the Xmas and New year period.???

Where were they????:eek:

Playing fokking records.

Talk about hard neck!!

JonathanAnon · 04-01-2010 8:14pm

FlutterinBantam wrote: »

Jeez I nearly bust my buns this morning!!!
RTE coming on all aghast and po faced over the lack of gritting over the Xmas and New year period.??? Talk about hard neck!!

I never even thought about it like that, but it's a very valid point. It's similar to when the RTE presenters were giving out today about the higher level public servants not taking the 15% pay cut. Most of them are well over the 200k mark.

Like ffs, the Liveline presenter job was done last year by Damian O'Reilly and Derek Davis, and requires little or no experience. There is NO way Joe Duffy should be getting over 400k for this job. He should 60k and be happy with it. And if he doesnt like it, stick him in the archive department.

FlutterinBantam · 05-01-2010 9:30am

JonathanAnon wrote: »

I never even thought about it like that, but it's a very valid point. It's similar to when the RTE presenters were giving out today about the higher level public servants not taking the 15% pay cut. Most of them are well over the 200k mark.

Like ffs, the Liveline presenter job was done last year by Damian O'Reilly and Derek Davis, and requires little or no experience. There is NO way Joe Duffy should be getting over 400k for this job. He should 60k and be happy with it. And if he doesnt like it, stick him in the archive department.

Auld Harry with the Dub accent you could sew a button on wouldn't be too happy with that

;)

JonathanAnon · 05-01-2010 2:15pm

FlutterinBantam wrote: »

Auld Harry with the Dub accent you could sew a button on wouldn't be too happy with that ;)

He will be if we give him Joe's job for 60k a year. Though being an RTE employee he's probably on that already.

FlutterinBantam · 05-01-2010 6:13pm

And the frikken rest:mad:

Derryleigh · 05-01-2010 8:15pm

Hi I am a new boards member but have been brousing these pages for some months now. And I have always wanted to ask Flutterinbantem, why cannot you not type proper English? For someone so concerned about how radio presenters speak and use diction, your weird posts here dont seem to add up. Eg, what does, bust my buns mean in your world?

JonathanAnon · 05-01-2010 8:54pm

Derryleigh wrote: »

Hi I am a new boards member but have been brousing these pages for some months now. And I have always wanted to ask Flutterinbantem, why cannot you not type proper English? For someone so concerned about how radio presenters speak and use diction, your weird posts here dont seem to add up. Eg, what does, bust my buns mean in your world?

You spelt his name wrong.. ;-)

humberklog · 05-01-2010 9:16pm

Derryleigh wrote: »

Eg, what does, bust my buns mean in your world?

At a guess and with little stretch of the imagination I'd say that it's a polite way of expressing that it gives him a pain in the hole. Perfectly acceptable terminology I'd have thought.

Well all the class appear to be returned to their desks and back sitting on their highly paid council gritters, with the exception of Wilson. Wilson!!!

goingpostal · 05-01-2010 9:18pm

I'd rather go to jail, than pay a licence to those f*ckers.

Derryleigh · 05-01-2010 9:48pm

There is no way RTE could continue with "normal" broadcasting over the Christmas. Where would they get the guests? Its not just RTE which virtually shuts down or takes holidays at Christmas.

When you consider how thin newspapers have been both local and national over the past couple of weeks and in some cases not publishing at all, I dont see why people are so upset that Pat Kenny is not on every day trying to fill two hours with topical debate when there is no Dail, no schools, no civil service operating, ie: not a whole lot of material to work with.

We tend to forget that each of those highly paid presenters are backed up by a team of relatively poor paid civil servant type researchers and producers. Like most other people, are they not entitled to some time off over Christmas especially if they have children who are also on hols.

In the US, the holiday lasts about two days and that is it, everyone is back to work, but until we go that way and shorten the 12 days of Christmas to 2, we should not expect all guns blazing on the radio or in the workforce generally.

Alot of people in other walks of life, take holidays and alot did not return to work until yesterday after being off since before Christmas.

FlutterinBantam · 06-01-2010 9:41am

The difference my friend is that RTE is a Public Service Broadcaster!!

It's specific task is to provide a service to the Irish public.

Did Aer Lingus all take holidays over Xmas?
Did the pubs, the theatres?
Did the Guards, the Firemen, the Hospitals, the Ferries??

Why do ALL the "top stars" at RTE piss off for the full nine yards at Xmas.

Surely they can do better than some faceless dude playing records from 0600 to 0900 then 2 hours of tapes and another boring geezer playing records from 1100 to 1300!!!!

That's putting the two fingers up to the public.

Don't give that poorly paid stuff, everyone in Montrose is relatively very well paid. Time they started earning it.:mad::mad::mad::mad:

Derryleigh · 06-01-2010 11:34am

FlutterinBantam wrote: »

The difference my friend is that RTE is a Public Service Broadcaster!!

It's specific task is to provide a service to the Irish public.

Did Aer Lingus all take holidays over Xmas?
Did the pubs, the theatres?
Did the Guards, the Firemen, the Hospitals, the Ferries??

Why do ALL the "top stars" at RTE piss off for the full nine yards at Xmas.

Surely they can do better than some faceless dude playing records from 0600 to 0900 then 2 hours of tapes and another boring geezer playing records from 1100 to 1300!!!!

That's putting the two fingers up to the public.

Don't give that poorly paid stuff, everyone in Montrose is relatively very well paid. Time they started earning it.:mad::mad::mad::mad:

Firstly I am not your friend. I havent a clue who you are.

I am not so sure ALL the stars went away. I heard most of them at various stages over Christmas. Again, you miss the point. Its Christmas. Aer Lingus, fire men etc provide an essential service. Why is it essential to have live political or topical debate on air at a time of year when most of us are chilling out. I like to hear Morning Ireland and Pat Kenny and Liveline on a nomral week. But do you not think it would be a little weird to wake up to a full blown Morning Ireland on St Stephens Day or listen to a full on Liveline on New Years Day, state broadcaster or not.

As long as they are covering the main news issues that break, that is their duty. Just because they get paid so much does not mean that they should be in there every day just to keep you satisfied.

Guarantee you that if Pat Kenny or Ryan Tubridy was on over Christmas trying to cobble together programmes with few or no guests and little by way or topical debate apart from reviweing 09 and predicting 2010, there would be people on here complaining about wasting licence money etc.

And you obvioulsy know absolutely nothing about the workings of a radio station if you think that young reserachers and secretaries are paid well. I know people who worked in RTe and local radio here in the country where I live and they dont get as well paid as you think.

They are the BA's, sound ops etc that NEED to be on duty for a programme to go to air or do you think that Pat Kenny and Joe Duffy walk in off the street, walk into studio, talk on the mic, switch it off and go home again?

ANd no I dont work in RTE. Only ever been in there once in my life but I do know how radio programmes work as I do bother to find these things out before coming on here like so many others spouting rubbish about something they seem to know very little about apart from what they hear via their transisters in the kitchen.

Dan Dare · 06-01-2010 1:50pm

BBC Radio 4 seems to carry on pretty much as normal over the Christmas period.

FlutterinBantam · 06-01-2010 2:45pm

Derryleigh wrote: »

Firstly I am not your friend. I havent a clue who you are.

I am not so sure ALL the stars went away. I heard most of them at various stages over Christmas. Again, you miss the point. Its Christmas. Aer Lingus, fire men etc provide an essential service. Why is it essential to have live political or topical debate on air at a time of year when most of us are chilling out. I like to hear Morning Ireland and Pat Kenny and Liveline on a nomral week. But do you not think it would be a little weird to wake up to a full blown Morning Ireland on St Stephens Day or listen to a full on Liveline on New Years Day, state broadcaster or not.

As long as they are covering the main news issues that break, that is their duty. Just because they get paid so much does not mean that they should be in there every day just to keep you satisfied.

Guarantee you that if Pat Kenny or Ryan Tubridy was on over Christmas trying to cobble together programmes with few or no guests and little by way or topical debate apart from reviweing 09 and predicting 2010, there would be people on here complaining about wasting licence money etc.

And you obvioulsy know absolutely nothing about the workings of a radio station if you think that young reserachers and secretaries are paid well. I know people who worked in RTe and local radio here in the country where I live and they dont get as well paid as you think.

They are the BA's, sound ops etc that NEED to be on duty for a programme to go to air or do you think that Pat Kenny and Joe Duffy walk in off the street, walk into studio, talk on the mic, switch it off and go home again?

ANd no I dont work in RTE. Only ever been in there once in my life but I do know how radio programmes work as I do bother to find these things out before coming on here like so many others spouting rubbish about something they seem to know very little about apart from what they hear via their transisters in the kitchen.

My jaysus !!!!

You lanced a fairly big arse grape there my friend.

I'm perfectly aware how 'the system' works out in RTE.

I don't expect full blown MI on Stephen's day.

However, for my licence fee I do expect something better than Ronan Collins for two hours for a week after Xmas and constant repeats.

This organisation ,in my opinion, wants to be taken by the scruff of the neck and shaken into 2010 and all the changes and operating procedures that accrue from that should be implemented by a flaccid management who will reap the rewards of inactivity much like the councils those who run this country got caught out in this cold 'snap'.

Get the finger out Goan.

Derryleigh · 06-01-2010 3:10pm

Ok. three things

1 So no Ronan Collins on Christmas morning. What do you go with instead? Who would you get as your guests to drive out to Montrose on Christmas morning to be interviewed? Would you get up and go out to partake in an early morning show in the knowledge that not many people are listening and not many people really care what you have to say. Its Christmas for Gods sake!

2 So give me your ideal Christmas day line up. Pretend you are Cathal Goan. What is your fantasy Christmas day Radio One line up, subjects, guests etc. And remember for every live prog, you need a team so you end up with a whole load of staff in also.

3. What is worng with tape records. Why does it have to be live. If a good documentary is made or a prog pre recorded two days before Christmas, what is really wrong with that.

JonathanAnon · 06-01-2010 3:22pm

I work as a pub singer part time, and I understand that part of my job is playing when everybody else is out drinking. RTE is meant to be a service, and they should be providing that service when people want it, not when it is convenient for their staff.

These presenters get HUGE holidays anyway during the summer. The station
pretty much runs the second string staff during this period. I mean we're meant to get some value for money for the 100k s of money we're paying them, arent we?

Give everybody Christmas Day & Stephen's Day off, but every other day is fair game. They should have to work those days unless they take them out of their already excessively generous holidays.

FlutterinBantam · 06-01-2010 3:53pm

Derryleigh wrote: »

Ok. three things

1 So no Ronan Collins on Christmas morning. What do you go with instead? Who would you get as your guests to drive out to Montrose on Christmas morning to be interviewed? Would you get up and go out to partake in an early morning show in the knowledge that not many people are listening and not many people really care what you have to say. Its Christmas for Gods sake!

2 So give me your ideal Christmas day line up. Pretend you are Cathal Goan. What is your fantasy Christmas day Radio One line up, subjects, guests etc. And remember for every live prog, you need a team so you end up with a whole load of staff in also.

3. What is worng with tape records. Why does it have to be live. If a good documentary is made or a prog pre recorded two days before Christmas, what is really wrong with that.

I'm not f******g talking about Xmas Eve/Day/Stephens day.

I'm talking about the other 10 f****g days up to the 4th of Jan!!!!!

Derryleigh · 06-01-2010 4:45pm

Easy on the bad language. Are ye this angry all the time? Its only radio!

Is your desire to have these people in providing YOU with a full service when Ireland is more or less on wind down driven more by jealously over their wages than anything else. I pay my licence fee but I dont think that suddenly I OWN these people.

I am not going to win this arguement with you but what SERVICE do you talk about exactly. As I said earlier, Ireland is a little different to other countries. Whether we like or not, the country including our politicians goes on two week holiday. People in all walks of life take time off to be with their children who are on hols. This is reflected in the sort of radio we hear, the sort of TV that is on (ie films etc), the sort of stuff that fills thin newspapers (ie reviews, 30 year state papers, quotes of the year etc etc).

And once again, you need guests as well as presenters for this full service you talk about. I bet it would be so much harder to put together a daily live, current affairs prog as normal on Dec 27-28-29-30-31 than it would be at any other time of year. Would you not agree.

As I said, until we ditch the whole Christmas holiday thing and go like the US where they dont do the whole two week holiday thing, then I think you will have to put up with a 3rd gear media service.

Anyway, you must be hard up when you want all this serious NAMA, recession, politics, debate, liveline strand to brighten your day at a time of year when most other people just chill for a while!!

FlutterinBantam · 06-01-2010 5:20pm

Derryleigh wrote: »

Easy on the bad language. Are ye this angry all the time? Its only radio!

Is your desire to have these people in providing YOU with a full service when Ireland is more or less on wind down driven more by jealously over their wages than anything else. I pay my licence fee but I dont think that suddenly I OWN these people.

I am not going to win this arguement with you but what SERVICE do you talk about exactly. As I said earlier, Ireland is a little different to other countries. Whether we like or not, the country including our politicians goes on two week holiday. People in all walks of life take time off to be with their children who are on hols. This is reflected in the sort of radio we hear, the sort of TV that is on (ie films etc), the sort of stuff that fills thin newspapers (ie reviews, 30 year state papers, quotes of the year etc etc).

And once again, you need guests as well as presenters for this full service you talk about. I bet it would be so much harder to put together a daily live, current affairs prog as normal on Dec 27-28-29-30-31 than it would be at any other time of year. Would you not agree.

As I said, until we ditch the whole Christmas holiday thing and go like the US where they dont do the whole two week holiday thing, then I think you will have to put up with a 3rd gear media service.

Anyway, you must be hard up when you want all this serious NAMA, recession, politics, debate, liveline strand to brighten your day at a time of year when most other people just chill for a while!!

The way I see it the Public Service Broadcaster has an obligation to provide the paying public with a little better than bland mundane music and tapes over the extended Xmas period.

A small bit of imagination and foresight would do that.

Guests are not a prerequisite for discussion panels.

Are there no enough qualified people out in Montrose to sit down and have a discussion?

You see, I regard RTE to be in the entertainment business,and in the entertainment business, the staff and workers are most busy when others are on holiday.That's the nature of things.

If they don't realise that, they should be in another business.

Derryleigh · 06-01-2010 5:45pm

I can just imagine the bile and outrage which would be here if you had RTE people interviewing RTE people instead of real guests who are on holidays. You just will not get journos, politicians and others to contribute to programmes at this time of the year. They are away or entertaining their school going children. Fact of life when kids are on hols. Its hard work. I have three myself and took hols to co-incide with this.

And what is wrong with tape. Some of the best radio you will hear anywhere is on tape via documentaries, one on one interviews, features etc. I heard some really good stuff over the past week that you simply wont get listening to live radio.

And its via these taped pieces that you get imagination. That is the very epitome of imagination, whereby you sit down and put together a documentary with links and interviews. Live radio is cheap and lazy by comparison.

Anyway, just proves there is no pleasing ye whip crackers!

Meeja Ireland · 06-01-2010 6:05pm

Derryleigh wrote: »

You just will not get journos, politicians and others to contribute to programmes at this time of the year.

I don't think that's true. The Christmas period could be a very valuable time to bring new blood to the various panels and guests spots. Don't tell me the newspaper business isn't full of ambitious young 'uns who would step over six slaughtered reindeer to get a slot on primetime.

I've been reading this from a neutral position, and I have to say I find the arguments of Flutter and Jonathan pretty convincing. There is a tradition that RTE all but shuts down over the Christmas fortnight, but it's not a good tradition. They could use those weeks better.

Even if they don't call in all their A-list presenters, it could be an opportunity to give flight time to the up-and-coming.

The lack of any system in RTE for training and blooding new presenters is one of the reasons the talent pool is so dangerously shallow that they have had to overpay, and overwork, the same few people all these years.

FlutterinBantam · 06-01-2010 6:05pm

Derryleigh wrote: »

I can just imagine the bile and outrage which would be here if you had RTE people interviewing RTE people instead of real guests who are on holidays. You just will not get journos, politicians and others to contribute to programmes at this time of the year. They are away or entertaining their school going children. Fact of life when kids are on hols. Its hard work. I have three myself and took hols to co-incide with this.

And what is wrong with tape. Some of the best radio you will hear anywhere is on tape via documentaries, one on one interviews, features etc. I heard some really good stuff over the past week that you simply wont get listening to live radio.

And its via these taped pieces that you get imagination. That is the very epitome of imagination, whereby you sit down and put together a documentary with links and interviews. Live radio is cheap and lazy by comparison.

Anyway, just proves there is no pleasing ye whip crackers!

You are making some very good points.

However the whole mindset needs to change.

I wouldn't have a major problem with decent documentaries, interviews,but I do not want some geezer playing music from 0600 to 0900, then Tubridy on tape and then Collins 1100-1300.

Get a bleedin' grip buddy.

By the way the politicians are not on holidays, the Dail is not in session, but they are not on holidays.

Do RTE think that the news stops for 12 days.?

The Tsunami in the far east woke them up a few years ago.

Didn't learn their lesson it would appear.

Derryleigh · 06-01-2010 6:58pm

Regarding the Tsunami or any such event, they can happen anytime and when they do, RTE and all other media must react accordingly whether its on Christmas Day, a Sunday or just an ordinary middle of the week day. I dont think wakening them up is the appropriate way of putting it.

Regarding new blood, dont make me laugh. I have been reading this threat on numerous occassions in the past and whenever a new person is brought in to relieve some of the main presenters, they get lashed out it by the likes of us who know nothing about them. But I put that down to the fact that we hate change on our trusty radios. No matter how good stand in's are and who probably dont get paid well, they get harshly criticised here.

And with regards to politicians, I shoul1d clarify that the Dail is not sitting so the vast majority of TDs are gone out of Dublin back home to constituencies. So they are not within easy reach of studios but I am sure if there was a big story in their area, they would be happy to take a phone call. But has there been any real big regional story that should have been covered but wasnt over the 10 days of Christmas on RTE.

As I said, they have a duty to provide us with proper news coverage and give us correct and up to date newsof importance and relevance to us, but the idea of us baying wolves just wanting Pat Kenny to go into studio on such a slow week and talk about, well, not much really, just because he earns 600k, it just does not make sense to me.

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FlutterinBantam · 06-01-2010 7:10pm

Derryleigh wrote: »

Regarding the Tsunami or any such event, they can happen anytime and when they do, RTE and all other media must react accordingly whether its on Christmas Day, a Sunday or just an ordinary middle of the week day. I dont think wakening them up is the appropriate way of putting it.

Regarding new blood, dont make me laugh. I have been reading this threat on numerous occassions in the past and whenever a new person is brought in to relieve some of the main presenters, they get lashed out it by the likes of us who know nothing about them. But I put that down to the fact that we hate change on our trusty radios. No matter how good stand in's are and who probably dont get paid well, they get harshly criticised here.

And with regards to politicians, I shoul1d clarify that the Dail is not sitting so the vast majority of TDs are gone out of Dublin back home to constituencies. So they are not within easy reach of studios but I am sure if there was a big story in their area, they would be happy to take a phone call. But has there been any real big regional story that should have been covered but wasnt over the 10 days of Christmas on RTE.

As I said, they have a duty to provide us with proper news coverage and give us correct and up to date newsof importance and relevance to us, but the idea of us baying wolves just wanting Pat Kenny to go into studio on such a slow week and talk about, well, not much really, just because he earns 600k, it just does not make sense to me.

End of...

How am I not making sense here??

Why am I so poor at putting my point across?

I just want a fairly normal presentation of events over the dog days.

Are there not plenty of qualified punters available.?

Do the BBC Sky news Cnn Al Jazeeerah all turn over to tape players in this period.

Now don't come on and say we Irish are unique in that we go 'underground' for the Xmas period.

RTEs effort is shyte. that's what I said shyte.

Ronan Collins on for two hours for the week...... FFS

Derryleigh · 06-01-2010 10:44pm

FlutterinBantam wrote: »

How am I not making sense here??

Why am I so poor at putting my point across?

I just want a fairly normal presentation of events over the dog days.

Are there not plenty of qualified punters available.?

Do the BBC Sky news Cnn Al Jazeeerah all turn over to tape players in this period.

Now don't come on and say we Irish are unique in that we go 'underground' for the Xmas period.

RTEs effort is shyte. that's what I said shyte.

Ronan Collins on for two hours for the week...... FFS

BBC SKY AL JAZEERA CNN = News Channels!

I thought it was entertainment you were after and here you are now comparing a relatively small radio station in a very small country to the worlds largest news outlets.

Backs up my point that RTEs biggest problem is that it is constantly compared to the BBC, an worldwide organisation. Bit like comparing Bohemians to Real Madrid. They will never win.

bossdrum · 07-01-2010 1:34am

I don't think it's too much to expect that the national broadcaster, subsidised by the taxpayer can't have live output 24/7 nevermind at christmas.

Why do they think that because alot of people are on holidays they don't want live output on the radio.

RTE are in the entertainment business so they should cater for when people are not working. It's the only time some people get a chance to listen to the radio as they are working for the rest of the year.

They seem to schedule their time tables to suit themselves and not their audience.
Nightclubs, cinemas etc don't close down over christmas because it's holiday time.

They really are a pathetic shower but unfortunately nothing will change.:mad:

Ham'nd'egger · 07-01-2010 3:07am

Just looking in here and to be fair to both Derry and Fluttering; Derek Mooney, Pat Kenny and Ryan Tubridy were live over most of the Xmas and gave us some live programming. Admittedly it was not very in depth but they did something live and reasonably up to date and yes, we don't need another 23 hours of NAMA or clerical abuse. Yes, there is less staff to research and locate subject and guests but there is still news being made and news needs to be covered to a certain standard. But overall it will slip over the holidays and compared to both Newstalk and TV3, RTE were overstaffed over the season gone.

That said, I am also one who is tired of much of the rethreaded and repeated programmes; not so much the fact that they are on over the season but more so some of what was chosen to be replayed. There is a fantastic library of archive shows and talent that could and should be replayed and aired (Some of it was, in fairness) and much as I like them both, Ronan Collins and John Creedon could have had somebody fill in for them in order to freshen and break in a new voice or two.

FlutterinBantam · 07-01-2010 9:17am

Derryleigh wrote: »

BBC SKY AL JAZEERA CNN = News Channels!

I thought it was entertainment you were after and here you are now comparing a relatively small radio station in a very small country to the worlds largest news outlets.

Backs up my point that RTEs biggest problem is that it is constantly compared to the BBC, an worldwide organisation. Bit like comparing Bohemians to Real Madrid. They will never win.

Ok I lost the run of myself a bit there, bottom line, they can, and should, do better than they are doing. What they are offering is to me an insult to the public.

bossdrum wrote: »

I don't think it's too much to expect that the national broadcaster, subsidised by the taxpayer can't have live output 24/7 nevermind at christmas.

Why do they think that because alot of people are on holidays they don't want live output on the radio.

RTE are in the entertainment business so they should cater for when people are not working. It's the only time some people get a chance to listen to the radio as they are working for the rest of the year.

They seem to schedule their time tables to suit themselves and not their audience.
Nightclubs, cinemas etc don't close down over christmas because it's holiday time.

They really are a pathetic shower but unfortunately nothing will change.:mad:

Exactly my points raised earlier.Suit yourself and screw the listener, anything will do for them.

Hamndegger wrote: »

Just looking in here and to be fair to both Derry and Fluttering; Derek Mooney, Pat Kenny and Ryan Tubridy were live over most of the Xmas and gave us some live programming. Admittedly it was not very in depth but they did something live and reasonably up to date and yes, we don't need another 23 hours of NAMA or clerical abuse. Yes, there is less staff to research and locate subject and guests but there is still news being made and news needs to be covered to a certain standard. But overall it will slip over the holidays and compared to both Newstalk and TV3, RTE were overstaffed over the season gone.

That said, I am also one who is tired of much of the rethreaded and repeated programmes; not so much the fact that they are on over the season but more so some of what was chosen to be replayed. There is a fantastic library of archive shows and talent that could and should be replayed and aired (Some of it was, in fairness) and much as I like them both, Ronan Collins and John Creedon could have had somebody fill in for them in order to freshen and break in a new voice or two.

They were glorified continuity announcers.

Good time to break in some new blood and give them something to work on.

FlutterinBantam · 15-02-2010 8:43pm

Where was Marzie last Sunday??

John 'I'm a Doob' Murray stood in.

Not another break on €450k+ pa surely.

dh0661 · 15-02-2010 9:53pm

FlutterinBantam wrote: »

Where was Marzie last Sunday??

John 'I'm a Doob' Murray stood in.

Not another break on €450k+ pa surely.

That's not so bad IMO - I had to listen to Marty Morrissey :eek: as part of the rugby commentary Saturday

:mad: FFS I can't even listen to him doing GAA commentaries.

Marty Morrissey doing rugby commentary

- no wonder they lost :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

humberklog · 15-02-2010 10:01pm

FlutterinBantam wrote: »

Where was Marzie last Sunday??

John 'I'm a Doob' Murray stood in.

Not another break on €450k+ pa surely.

Well it wasn't a sicky FB as they were advertising The Business earlier on in the week being presented by someone other than Murray, so it must've been planned annual leave or large fag break.

I like Murray a lot when doing The Business but I didn't think much of him when keeping MF's seat warm.

Plowman · 15-02-2010 10:25pm

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dh0661 · 15-02-2010 10:43pm

humberklog wrote: »

but I didn't think much of him when keeping MF's seat warm.

Probably afraid of getting cross contaminated, TBH I'd be afaid of that too :eek: - trying to keep MF's seat warm.

Barname · 16-02-2010 12:18pm

do you think Finucane could get her act together?

I read she pulls down €450 k pa

she has 2 shows a week

a few hours with breaks

AND YET

I have to listen to her clearing her throat, slurping tea, chipping tea cups, dropping spoons, rustling paper

jeebus fricking hoist ! €450k for production qualities / values that wouldnt pass as community radio in NYC

Ireland is bankrupt in more ways than one.

Oiling up the Tape Players out in Montrose.

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