Dr Vernon Coleman: They want to kill 6 Bn of us, enslave us [Covid-19]

Tea drinker · 09-10-2020 8:40pm

King Mob wrote: »

None of this is true.

And the "squalene {from sharks livers}" scaremongering crap is straight from anti-vaxxer propaganda.

Actually, None of THIS is true^
What conspiracy theory have you got to back that up?
Sperm levels ae waaay down. I honestly can't understand why you would deny such an easily provable fact?

More lies

:
https://www.healthline.com/health-news/sperm-counts-have-dropped-in-western-countries#:~:text=Sperm%20Counts%20Have%20Dropped%20More%20Than%2050%20Percent%20in%20Western%20Countries&text=Scientists%20are%20alarmed%20by%20a,according%20to%20a%20new%20study.

King Mob · 10-10-2020 2:38am

Tea drinker wrote: »

Actually, None of THIS is true^
What conspiracy theory have you got to back that up?
Sperm levels ae waaay down. I honestly can't understand why you would deny such an easily provable fact?

More lies :
https://www.healthline.com/health-news/sperm-counts-have-dropped-in-western-countries#:~:text=Sperm%20Counts%20Have%20Dropped%20More%20Than%2050%20Percent%20in%20Western%20Countries&text=Scientists%20are%20alarmed%20by%20a,according%20to%20a%20new%20study.

Ok, fair. I concede that my post wasn't right. There is a significant downward trend in sperm counts in western countries.

However, there are still some pretty major issues with accumulator's claims:
For example, it seems that most if not all of the studies are referring to the western countries, not the world as a whole.

Also in reading I found it isn't a super clear cut issue.
https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2018/9/17/17841518/low-sperm-count-semen-male-fertility
https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20120515-are-sperm-counts-dropping

Secondly, from my reading the causes do not seem to be well understood, so Accumulator's claims of it definitely being due to "pollution, toxins, carcinogens, lifestyles, elctro-smog, plastics hormone disruptors" are dubious at best.
Also notice that he adds in "electro-smog" which on top of being another popular anti-science propaganda term, is not at all considered a possible cause. None of the studies I looked over even mentioned anything of the sort.

Also interestingly, one of the studies that looked into the causes of the issue found:

One of the latest studies published in February 2020 journal JAMA Network Open had investigated 4 varying diets using a sample of 2935 young Danish men. It came to the conclusion men who consumed a “western diet" composed of predominantly of red meat, fried food, and sugar-sweetened drinks and desserts had the worse outcome out of the 4 diets with a sperm count ranging from 109 million to 138 million. The study had found a prudent "healthy diet" composed of fish, chicken, fruit and vegetables. This diet had the highest sperm count with an average of 146 million to 183 million sperm. The co-author of the study stated the importance of diet citing it as "necessary for the production of healthy functioning sperm with high fertility potential”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Male_infertility_crisis
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7043196/
Isn't one of the sinister goals of the evil shadowy people behind the "Great Reset" etc. to get us off eating so much meat?

Then there's the other claim I pointed to:

If young lads were to receive some manditory new (yearly) covid vaccine from birth, is there a chance of cumulative toxin build-up (squalene {from sharks livers} and heavy metals)...

Which is very wrong on many levels.
There's no evidence that squalene builds up in the body between vaccines and there's no evidence that it is harmful. Calling it a "toxin" is not correct.
Additional, pointing out that one source of squalene is shark liver is a common anti-vaxxer trope. I'm not sure why it's relevant enough that he brings it up other than to make it sound more scary.

There's also no evidence that vaccines cause a build up of heavy metals. And there's nothing to suggest that any of the minute levels of heavy metal that might be in vaccines cause any issues.

There's nothing at all to suggest a link between vaccines or their ingredients and lower sperm count.
None of the studies talking about the issue make any mention of this.

Quiner · 20-12-2020 2:57pm

Dr. Coleman explained how they (Klaus Schwab and the governments he controls) are going to abolish private property in a recent video on Brandnewtube. I'll post the link to the video.

He outlines what's coming next year in another video (masks everywhere, including in the home, being one thing that's in the pipeline).

They're well worth watching.

Dohnjoe · 20-12-2020 4:48pm

Quiner wrote: »

Dr. Coleman explained how they (Klaus Schwab and the governments he controls) are going to abolish private property in a recent video on Brandnewtube. I'll post the link to the video.

He outlines what's coming next year in another video (masks everywhere, including in the home, being one thing that's in the pipeline).

They're well worth watching.

We've been through all this in the thread. There is no plan to "abolish private property", it doesn't exist. It all comes from one piece written by someone which is a hypothetical view of the world in the future, even the author had to point this out because people online were taking it literally.

It should all be in this thread or the Great Reset thread which I suggest you read

Quiner · 20-12-2020 6:09pm

Dohnjoe wrote: »

We've been through all this in the thread. There is no plan to "abolish private property", it doesn't exist. It all comes from one piece written by someone which is a hypothetical view of the world in the future, even the author had to point this out because people online were taking it literally.

It should all be in this thread or the Great Reset thread which I suggest you read

Dr Coleman explains how he believes they're going to do it in the video. I'll post a link to the video when I can.

ohnonotgmail · 20-12-2020 6:15pm

Quiner wrote: »

Dr Coleman explains how he believes they're going to do it in the video. I'll post a link to the video when I can.

Dont bother. He is talking nonsense. it has already been well discussed as you have been informed.

Quiner · 20-12-2020 8:14pm

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

Dont bother. He is talking nonsense. it has already been well discussed as you have been informed.

I'll post the videos and let people make up their own mind.

Quiner · 21-12-2020 11:39am

https://brandnewtube.com/watch/how-they-plan-to-bankrupt-us-all_Fa4EAdGkPuFelm4.html

The plan to abolish private property, according to Dr Coleman.

https://brandnewtube.com/watch/here-039-s-what-will-happen-next_QAXlz1Y8CaY1jEz.html

What's going to happen next.

The reason Dr Coleman posts videos on Brandnewtube is because of the censorship on Youtube.

The Nal · 21-12-2020 12:35pm

Quiner wrote: »

https://brandnewtube.com/watch/how-they-plan-to-bankrupt-us-all_Fa4EAdGkPuFelm4.html

The plan to abolish private property, according to Dr Coleman.

https://brandnewtube.com/watch/here-039-s-what-will-happen-next_QAXlz1Y8CaY1jEz.html

What's going to happen next.

The reason Dr Coleman posts videos on Brandnewtube is because of the censorship on Youtube.

Because its complete lies. Well done Youtube.

Anyone who thinks "they" are going to abolish private property is in need of immediate psychological care. No joke.

ohnonotgmail · 21-12-2020 12:39pm

The Nal wrote: »

Because its complete lies. Well done Youtube.

Anyone who thinks "they" are going to abolish private property is in need of immediate psychological care. No joke.

the people with the power to implement this probably have control of a lot of private property. yet somehow they want to abolish private property. That makes to some people but not to me.

King Mob · 21-12-2020 12:44pm

The Nal wrote: »

Because its complete lies. Well done Youtube.

Anyone who thinks "they" are going to abolish private property is in need of immediate psychological care. No joke.

The last time someone claimed this, it was all based on the WEF linking to an article that never actually claimed that.
They couldn't find anything else that was even slightly better.
And at the same time they refused to read the book.

It was very embarrassing and I suspect that it's a similar situation here.

LessOutragePlz · 21-12-2020 12:49pm

How can they abolish private property if you already own your own home, mortgage/debt free.

No one can just come in an take it as you own the deeds to that property.

There's no point in even conversing with a person that believes this is possible in the scenario that I've mentioned as you'd be wasting your time.

Quiner · 21-12-2020 2:09pm

LessOutragePlz wrote: »

How can they abolish private property if you already own your own home, mortgage/debt free.

No one can just come in an take it as you own the deeds to that property.

There's no point in even conversing with a person that believes this is possible in the scenario that I've mentioned as you'd be wasting your time.

Dr Coleman explains how in the video. He gives specifics. I won't list them here. People can watch the video. He goes into detail.

Quiner · 21-12-2020 2:12pm

King Mob wrote: »

The last time someone claimed this, it was all based on the WEF linking to an article that never actually claimed that.
They couldn't find anything else that was even slightly better.
And at the same time they refused to read the book.

It was very embarrassing and I suspect that it's a similar situation here.

It did claim it. Adrian Monck of WEF went on Talk Radio and described the article as "a lovely piece about owning nothing". That's the way the WEF crowd think. They think an article about owning nothing is 'lovely'.

King Mob · 21-12-2020 2:18pm

Quiner wrote: »

It did claim it. Adrian Monck of WEF went on Talk Radio and described the article as "a lovely piece about owning nothing". That's the way the WEF crowd think. They think an article about owning nothing is 'lovely'.

Lol, that's exactly what the other guy claimed, then ran away from this claim when it became too embarrassing.

Have you read the Great Reset book?
Maybe you could provide a direct quote from it, or another source where they say that their goal is abolishing ownership?

Paddygreen · 21-12-2020 2:25pm

Maybe people should look up what happened to the “Kulaks” in the Soviet Union. It’s happened before and it can happen again.

Timberrrrrrrr · 21-12-2020 2:59pm

Quiner wrote: »

It did claim it. Adrian Monck of WEF went on Talk Radio and described the article as "a lovely piece about owning nothing". That's the way the WEF crowd think. They think an article about owning nothing is 'lovely'.

It was one person's opinion, he wrote an opinion of how things could be in the (distant) future. You guys have taken his opinion and run with it to the point where you think people will be turfed out of their homes.

Quiner · 21-12-2020 3:07pm

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

It was one person's opinion, he wrote an opinion of how things could be in the (distant) future. You guys have taken his opinion and run with it to the point where you think people will be turfed out of their homes.

Do you think it was weird that Mock described it as 'a lovely piece'? Doesn't it tell us a lot about how the WEF crowd think?

Quiner · 21-12-2020 3:09pm

Paddygreen wrote: »

Maybe people should look up what happened to the “Kulaks” in the Soviet Union. It’s happened before and it can happen again.

But they'd still call it a conspiracy theory. It seems anything and everything can be justified by 'it's for your safety'. People on here told me that they'd be ok with the Chinese-style social credit system Health Passport Ireland.

Thargor · 21-12-2020 3:13pm

Quiner wrote: »

Dr Coleman explains how in the video. He gives specifics. I won't list them here. People can watch the video. He goes into detail.

Why do people like you always want others to watch a video? Why cant you just explain it? Is it just so you can make up any crazy bullsh1t then avoid defending it with "watch the video, watch the video!"?

Timberrrrrrrr · 21-12-2020 3:21pm

Quiner wrote: »

Do you think it was weird that Mock described it as 'a lovely piece'? Doesn't it tell us a lot about how the WEF crowd think?

No

LessOutragePlz · 21-12-2020 5:09pm

Quiner wrote: »

Dr Coleman explains how in the video. He gives specifics. I won't list them here. People can watch the video. He goes into detail.

I watched the video, he didn't go into any specifics about people that already own their own homes which they have the deeds to and how that would be taken off them?

He's talking complete nonsense, and you can't explain it to me either.

No-one can take your house once you've paid off the mortgage and have the deeds in your name. To suggest otherwise is ridiculous.

Quiner · 21-12-2020 5:20pm

Thargor wrote: »

Why do people like you always want others to watch a video? Why cant you just explain it? Is it just so you can make up any crazy bullsh1t then avoid defending it with "watch the video, watch the video!"?

From the video:

Dr Coleman: "Interest rates are going to remain the lowest in history for a while to make sure that those with savings see their savings slowly disappear. And then interest rates will go up. Not a bit, but a lot. And when interest rates are up to 8, 9, or 10 percent, or even higher, imagine what mortgage repayments will reach. They'll all be stratospheric. And most people won't be able to afford to keep their homes. That will be the end of private home ownership."

Quiner · 21-12-2020 5:22pm

LessOutragePlz wrote: »

I watched the video, he didn't go into any specifics about people that already own their own homes which they have the deeds to and how that would be taken off them?

He's talking complete nonsense, and you can't explain it to me either.

No-one can take your house once you've paid off the mortgage and have the deeds in your name. To suggest otherwise is ridiculous.

He may be talking nonsense. Absolutely. I'm not the one making the claim, and I never said I agreed with him. But that's what he believes is going to happen.

The specifics were interests rates and mortgage repayments. That's what he focused on.

But, again, I am not making the claim. I'm just making people aware of Dr Coleman's claims so they can be discussed and debated.

Timberrrrrrrr · 21-12-2020 5:33pm

Quiner wrote: »

From the video:

Dr Coleman: "Interest rates are going to remain the lowest in history for a while to make sure that those with savings see their savings slowly disappear. And then interest rates will go up. Not a bit, but a lot. And when interest rates are up to 8, 9, or 10 percent, or even higher, imagine what mortgage repayments will reach. They'll all be stratospheric. And most people won't be able to afford to keep their homes. That will be the end of private home ownership."

And if you have no mortgage? There won't be repayments. How do they take the home/property of those people?

Quiner · 21-12-2020 5:40pm

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

And if you have no mortgage? There won't be repayments. How do they take the home/property of those people?

I'm wondering about that myself. Maybe he'll follow up his video with another one about people who have paid off the mortgage.

ohnonotgmail · 21-12-2020 5:41pm

Quiner wrote: »

He may be talking nonsense. Absolutely. I'm not the one making the claim, and I never said I agreed with him. But that's what he believes is going to happen.

The specifics were interests rates and mortgage repayments. That's what he focused on.

But, again, I am not making the claim. I'm just making people aware of Dr Coleman's claims so they can be discussed and debated.

do you believe him? Do you believe they will end the private ownership of property?

Quiner · 21-12-2020 5:49pm

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

do you believe him? Do you believe they will end the private ownership of property?

It's something I definitely fear, but I don't see how it would be possible.

Is he not right about the very high interests rates making it impossible for people to make their mortgage repayments?

Timberrrrrrrr · 21-12-2020 6:01pm

Quiner wrote: »

It's something I definitely fear, but I don't see how it would be possible.

Is he not right about the very high interests rates making it impossible for people to make their mortgage repayments?

There will always be people who can afford to buy houses, otherwise why would companies build them.

LessOutragePlz · 21-12-2020 6:01pm

Quiner wrote: »

It's something I definitely fear, but I don't see how it would be possible.

Is he not right about the very high interests rates making it impossible for people to make their mortgage repayments?

As I've previously stated mortgage interest rates are completely irrelevant to people that have already paid off their mortgage so they own their home and there's no way anyone can take it off them unless we're invaded by a foreign power.

Quiner · 21-12-2020 6:10pm

LessOutragePlz wrote: »

As I've previously stated mortgage interest rates are completely irrelevant to people that have already paid off their mortgage so they own their home and there's no way anyone can take it off them unless we're invaded by a foreign power.

I agree. I wish he would've addressed that point.

silliussoddius · 21-12-2020 6:20pm

Quiner wrote: »

It's something I definitely fear, but I don't see how it would be possible.

Is he not right about the very high interests rates making it impossible for people to make their mortgage repayments?

High interest rates?

https://www.ecb.europa.eu/stats/policy_and_exchange_rates/key_ecb_interest_rates/html/index.en.html

Quiner · 21-12-2020 6:26pm

silliussoddius wrote: »

High interest rates?

https://www.ecb.europa.eu/stats/policy_and_exchange_rates/key_ecb_interest_rates/html/index.en.html

He says they will remain low, but that they will rise.

silliussoddius · 21-12-2020 6:32pm

Quiner wrote: »

He says they will remain low, but that they will rise.

You mean that rates fluctuate? Did he say that water is wet and the sun is hot?
Sorry, it seems like you want to believe in these theories and are latching on to whatever you can find.
The title of this thread implies that "they" are trying to kill six beelion people with COVID, there's another thread where people are questioning the death rates and trying to imply it's some kind of hoax where the goal is to get people to wear masks or whatever whack-a-mole reason come along next. Someone else claimed in the vaccine thread that the HSE is getting equipment to deal with the effects of the vaccine. Obviously all of these can't be right, this is the nature of the conspiracy industrial complex, baffle people with bulls1t and when the claims don't come through then it's some kind of proof they were right. Then when the next disaster rolls around it's rinse and repeat. Do a search here for H1N1, ebola etc. You will see a familiar pattern.
I'd seriously suggest staying away from online places where you'll encounter such nonsense, the rabbit hole is deep.

Quiner · 21-12-2020 6:47pm

silliussoddius wrote: »

You mean that rates fluctuate? Did he say that water is wet and the sun is hot?
Sorry, it seems like you want to believe in these theories and are latching on to whatever you can find.
The title of this thread implies that "they" are trying to kill six beelion people with COVID, there's another thread where people are questioning the death rates and trying to imply it's some kind of hoax where the goal is to get people to wear masks or whatever whack-a-mole reason come along next. Someone else claimed in the vaccine thread that the HSE is getting equipment to deal with the effects of the vaccine. Obviously all of these can't be right, this is the nature of the conspiracy industrial complex, baffle people with bulls1t and when the claims don't come through then it's some kind of proof they were right. Then when the next disaster rolls around it's rinse and repeat. Do a search here for H1N1, ebola etc. You will see a familiar pattern.
I'd seriously suggest staying away from online places where you'll encounter such nonsense, the rabbit hole is deep.

Health passports was a conspiracy theory, and it's come true. Both here (Health Passport Ireland) and the UK (https://twitter.com/1RichieAllen/status/1340599827684597763).

When was it claimed during those episodes that there would be health passports?

I never said I believed Dr Coleman. I just thought it'd be interesting to discuss what he's claiming.

silliussoddius · 21-12-2020 7:10pm

Quiner wrote: »

Health passports was a conspiracy theory, and it's come true. Both here (Health Passport Ireland) and the UK (https://twitter.com/1RichieAllen/status/1340599827684597763).

When was it claimed during those episodes that there would be health passports?

I never said I believed Dr Coleman. I just thought it'd be interesting to discuss what he's claiming.

When you stare into the abyss etc. etc.

ohnonotgmail · 21-12-2020 7:45pm

Quiner wrote: »

It's something I definitely fear, but I don't see how it would be possible.

Is he not right about the very high interests rates making it impossible for people to make their mortgage repayments?

interest rates were up to nearly 20% in the 70s. people still bought homes. you also have not thought this through. Let us say for the sake of argument that they hike up interest rates so people cannot afford their mortgages. what then? the banks repossess the homes. so the banks now own the homes. what do they do with them?

Quiner · 21-12-2020 8:33pm

https://brandnewtube.com/watch/here-039-s-what-will-happen-next_QAXlz1Y8CaY1jEz.html

Dr Coleman predicts what's going to happen next.

ohnonotgmail · 21-12-2020 8:33pm

Quiner wrote: »

https://brandnewtube.com/watch/here-039-s-what-will-happen-next_QAXlz1Y8CaY1jEz.html

Dr Coleman predicts what's going to happen next.

enough of the link dumps. give us a synopsis.

Quiner · 21-12-2020 8:35pm

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

interest rates were up to nearly 20% in the 70s. people still bought homes. you also have not thought this through. Let us say for the sake of argument that they hike up interest rates so people cannot afford their mortgages. what then? the banks repossess the homes. so the banks now own the homes. what do they do with them?

But I'm not arguing what he's arguing. I'm just opening it up for discussion. I don't know why he didn't address your point. I'm guessing it's because it would show the flaws in his argument.

James Delingpole also believes private property will be abolished as part of the Great Reset. As well as cash. It's not just Dr Coleman who thinks it.

Just for the record, I don't agree with them, but I do fear it is a possibility.

ohnonotgmail · 21-12-2020 8:37pm

Quiner wrote: »

But I'm not arguing what he's arguing. I'm just opening it up for discussion. I don't know why he didn't address your point. I'm guessing it's because it would show the flaws in his argument.

James Delingpole also believes private property will be abolished as part of the Great Reset. As well as cash. It's not just Dr Coleman who thinks it.

Just for the record, I don't agree with them, but I do fear it is a possibility.

there is nothing to discuss. the whole idea is nonsense. and saying someone like delingpole believes it makes it even more unlikely.

Timberrrrrrrr · 21-12-2020 8:50pm

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

enough of the link dumps. give us a synopsis.

I watched it, he basically makes wild claims about what he thinks will happen over the next 12 months, feeding on the fears of the conspiracy theorists and telling them what they want to hear.

Tea drinker · 25-12-2020 10:41am

LessOutragePlz wrote: »

As I've previously stated mortgage interest rates are completely irrelevant to people that have already paid off their mortgage so they own their home and there's no way anyone can take it off them unless we're invaded by a foreign power.

? Many fine old houses were ruined in Ireland because people couldnt afford the rates on them. We are perfectly capable of running people out of their homes without foreign help

Quiner · 26-12-2020 5:01pm

Tea drinker wrote: »

? Many fine old houses were ruined in Ireland because people couldnt afford the rates on them. We are perfectly capable of running people out of their homes without foreign help

True. And so massive will the changes be that Schwab has promised that people will talk of BC (before corona) and AC (after corona). Abolishing private property . ownership would certainly be a massive change, although I have no idea how it could be done. But we'll find out next month and in May when all will be revealed re the massive changes that Schwab has promised.

The Nal · 26-12-2020 5:56pm

Quiner wrote: »

although I have no idea how it could be done.

Thats because it can't be done.

King Mob · 26-12-2020 6:14pm

Quiner wrote: »

be revealed re the massive changes that Schwab has promised.

Read his book yet?

Also what happens when nothing happens in May?
Will you accept you've been spouting bull**** then?

ohnonotgmail · 26-12-2020 6:17pm

Quiner wrote: »

True. And so massive will the changes be that Schwab has promised that people will talk of BC (before corona) and AC (after corona). Abolishing private property . ownership would certainly be a massive change, although I have no idea how it could be done. But we'll find out next month and in May when all will be revealed re the massive changes that Schwab has promised.

so you have no idea how it can be done but you believe it will happen? well that makes sense.

Quiner · 26-12-2020 6:30pm

King Mob wrote: »

Read his book yet?

Also what happens when nothing happens in May?
Will you accept you've been spouting bull**** then?

I will. But will you acknowledge that you were wrong? Not that it particularly matters. If what I fear comes to pass, and it already is with Health Passport Ireland and all the other health passports, the world will be a very scary place.

Quiner · 26-12-2020 6:30pm

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

so you have no idea how it can be done but you believe it will happen? well that makes sense.

I don't know how it could be done, but that doesn't mean it couldn't be done. I don't believe it will happen. I fear it may happen.

Dohnjoe · 26-12-2020 6:36pm

Quiner wrote: »

I will. But will you acknowledge that you were wrong? Not that it particularly matters. If what I fear comes to pass, and it already is with Health Passport Ireland and all the other health passports, the world will be a very scary place.

I don't know how it could be done, but that doesn't mean it couldn't be done. I don't believe it will happen. I fear it may happen.

Note the common theme in your posts. Go to any conspiracy theory site, interesting how that is also the common theme.

Dr Vernon Coleman: They want to kill 6 Bn of us, enslave us [Covid-19]

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