Mental health and CoVid-19

Raconteuse · 26-03-2020 2:31pm

Yeah I saw that: "Recession likely". Tell us something we don't know. Preferably something less gloomy.

fishy_fishy · 26-03-2020 2:37pm

I'm not coping at all. I dunno what to do. It's too much

ITman88 · 26-03-2020 2:40pm

fishy_fishy wrote: »

Unfortunately that's at the forefront of a lot of peoples worries and it's not fair of you to belittle that. Many people, myself included (plus a lot of acquaintances of my age, finally getting permanent jobs etc), were just back to normal after the last one. Staring down the barrel of another round is very worrying and very disheartening.

Yes, people will get this virus and die, others will be permanently weakened from it. That doesn't negate the concern about whether we'll have a salvageable economy at the end of this.

Yeah there is a portion of the population with one eye on the incoming recession and the virus.
Those in the early stages of mortgages with young kids etc, having recently invested in education, training etc.
A lot of issues at present with the virus and economy

Xertz · 26-03-2020 2:41pm

Just to inject a slight tone of optimism, because every country is in the same boat on this, particularly all of our EU and Eurozone neighbours, there will have to be a massive intervention by the EU to kick start the economy and get things going again.

The comparison with 2008 may not be accurate, given that it was a handful of countries impacted far more dramatically than others and there was a whole lot of finger pointing and discussion of 'moral hazards' and so on. All that's probably irrelevant now. I would say you'll just see an unprecedented coordinated central bank move in a few months across the whole "west" and beyond.

I think you could be looking at something on scale of the Marshall Plan and Bretton Woods.

I would be wary of getting too gloomy on this. These are utterly unprecedented times in many ways.

Raconteuse · 26-03-2020 2:50pm

Heighway61 wrote: »

We are struggling.

I'm not in good health - cancer, heart block, chronic autoimmune disease, chronic progressive neurological condition.

My wife makes between 12 and 21 house calls per day for the HSE. She is terrified she will pass the infection on to me or to her clients (who she has personally got to know). There is no PPE equipment available. She is many years at this job and is hard-nosed and experienced but at night she cries.

It's affecting my eating and my sleep. My autoimmune condition is flaring due to the stress. We are assuming my wife is carrying the virus into the house when she gets home at night and are trying to zealously clean. However, every day we see something new that we should have been doing. If there was somewhere I could isolate myself for the duration of this thing I would do that, but there isn't.

We feel it is just a matter of time.

My heart really goes out to ye.

26-03-2020 4:21pm

fishy_fishy wrote: »

I'm not coping at all. I dunno what to do. It's too much

Fishy, it's so hard

Are you living alone? Self isolating? Is there anything you can think of that will help you feel a little better?

My own mental health is taking a hit but this week I'm doing better. Staying away from the main thread here and the AMA helps me. There is something unhealthy in going around the same circle of doom. We all know this is serious.

Other things I do that is helping me is keeping in touch with people. Not everyone however is willing to talk and that can add to the loneliness. I told a close friend I was afraid and was met with "more people die in car accidents everyday". I guess that's her way of coping.

We need to try take every day as it comes even though looking ahead is so tempting. Practising gratitude is helpful too. Not easy either but it helps to keep the head. Tell yourself that you will get through this one step at a time.

DisneyLover · 26-03-2020 8:59pm

I was contacted by the psychiatric hospital I was in last year for anxiety to see how I was which was so nice.

I think a huge thing aswell is you can end up on your laptop phone etc all day.. try go out into the garden of even paint

fishy_fishy · 26-03-2020 9:31pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Fishy, it's so hard Are you living alone? Self isolating? Is there anything you can think of that will help you feel a little better?

My own mental health is taking a hit but this week I'm doing better. Staying away from the main thread here and the AMA helps me. There is something unhealthy in going around the same circle of doom. We all know this is serious.

Other things I do that is helping me is keeping in touch with people. Not everyone however is willing to talk and that can add to the loneliness. I told a close friend I was afraid and was met with "more people die in car accidents everyday". I guess that's her way of coping.

We need to try take every day as it comes even though looking ahead is so tempting. Practising gratitude is helpful too. Not easy either but it helps to keep the head. Tell yourself that you will get through this one step at a time.

Thanks, living with OH so not too isolated. Feeling a lot better this evening. I can't handle the main thread at all here.

I think I just miss my routine, miss the social aspect of working with a team in the office. Going to have to do as you say, take each day as it comes. I'm naturally too prone to be in the future.

Tell me how · 26-03-2020 9:31pm

DisneyLover wrote: »

I was contacted by the psychiatric hospital I was in last year for anxiety to see how I was which was so nice.

I think a huge thing aswell is you can end up on your laptop phone etc all day.. try go out into the garden of even paint

That was a really thoughtful thing for the hospital to do.

fin12 · 26-03-2020 9:38pm

lucalux wrote: »

Good news moment and posting here as it might suit some people who are self isolating and struggling with the lack of normal activities.

Drive-in movie theatre at Leopardstown.
They just had a feature on RTE Radio 1.

Book online, no contact with anyone outside your own car. Tune in your radio for audio!

Shows at 12, 3, 6 and 9pm.

Seems like a great initiative for the times, fair play to them

https://www.retrodrivein.ie/

Any drive through movie theatres in Cork?

grindle · 26-03-2020 10:29pm

fin12 wrote: »

Any drive through movie theatres in Cork?

There was one, closed down a year ago becasue the land was wanted for developmeent.

mirrorwall14 · 27-03-2020 12:14am

Just a small reminder that little things can make all the difference. I’m swamped with working from home and a 5 year old and 18 month old to mind simultaneously.

This evening I took the evening off after the kids were down. I’ll have to work harder tomorrow but I needed it. I took a long leisurely indulgent shower. Tidied my eyebrows, trimmed my hair and curled and blowdried it. Then sat down and played some games and watched tv. No news, no work.

It was bliss. Nothing special or expensive. Just peaceful

Wanderer19 · 27-03-2020 11:18am

mirrorwall14 wrote: »

Just a small reminder that little things can make all the difference. I’m swamped with working from home and a 5 year old and 18 month old to mind simultaneously.

This evening I took the evening off after the kids were down. I’ll have to work harder tomorrow but I needed it. I took a long leisurely indulgent shower. Tidied my eyebrows, trimmed my hair and curled and blowdried it. Then sat down and played some games and watched tv. No news, no work.

It was bliss. Nothing special or expensive. Just peaceful

Is there no one that could take the kids off your hands for a couple of hours a day? You need to look after yourself too.

Risteard81 · 27-03-2020 9:42pm

They should take that stupid EU flag off the podium.

Xertz · 28-03-2020 3:06am

To get back on topic:

How is everyone tonight?

Ten of Swords · 28-03-2020 3:18am

Risteard81 wrote: »

They should take that stupid EU flag off the podium.

Mod

This is not the appropriate thread for this at all, this is about how people's mental health is holding up as we all try to get through this. There are plenty of other threads you can discuss this on.

Xertz · 28-03-2020 3:29am

Right now for me, while I’m getting used to the idea of staying home, tonight’s announcement was a little stressful. I guess it’s just two weeks and I’ll make the most of being at home and not going out.

The most important thing is to try and get some time outside. A lot of us have gardens. If we are in apartments try and use balconies. Open windows. Open blinds and let as much light stream in as you can.

Make use of whatever outdoor space you have and if you don’t have any, take that short walk every day and make a routine of it. Just put on the headphones with relaxing music, find a nice safe pavement, preferably somewhere with a bit of nature - there’s always somewhere with some decent scenery, even in the most built up areas, and just walk. Take it all in for a while.

I’m being friendly on social media, I’m reaching out to old friends and stuff and I don’t care what people think, I’m just going to ask people how they’re doing, phone people up and say hello and talk crap for a while. We all need it. I’m actually making a big effort with the lads too as I think we’re awful at checking in on each other. I don’t know whether it’s some kind of cultural homophobia or something but, we need to get past it and look after our buds a lot better. People need to talk nonsense and chill out and those stupid communications can mean a lot. I don’t really buy the argument that women are naturally more communicative, I think we bring guys up to bottle stuff up. Just make sure you watch out for it yourself and with your family and friends.

Lift the phone. Ring cousins, friends, old aunties you haven’t spoken to in years.

Also if you’re used to going out for a coffee - bring a flask. Go out and have lunch in the garden, on the balcony or even by the big window.

Just get as much out of the daylight as you can.

If you’re living in a busy household, use the rooms to give yourself quiet time. Use headphones. Go for that walk.

Basically just avoid being cooped up and try to take whatever positives you can pull from this. Maybe it’s a time to read, write, get lost in music or think about anything other than this virus.

I’m also trying to engage with social media more positively - I’m ignoring the politics, the sniping and the nastiness and also the endless corona stories. Instead I’m trying to focus on the more social side of it and RTing and engaging with more interesting, fun stuff. It can be a very dark vortex if you engage with the wrong people and threads.

My point of view at the moment is just do all the distancing, hygiene and practical things I can to minimise risk but beyond that I’m just going to try to let it drift on by. I’ll help where I can and keep busy where I can, but where it’s beyond my control and abilities to control it, I have to just let it go and just deal with whatever it throws at me in the moment and not freak about it.

That’s all I can do.

Mars Bar · 28-03-2020 3:56pm

If ye want to feel a bit better, we're not even allowed out for a run or walk here in Abu Dhabi. I'd just love to go for a walk and stretch the legs properly.

theballz · 28-03-2020 5:26pm

It’s clearly a difficult period, if you are not feeling anxious and an element of despair than you are the odd.

Considering this is having a mental health impact on the entire population, should our national broadcasters make more of an effort to help people?

I am not saying sugar coat the truth, we need to be kept up to date. I mean maybe they should start broadcasting shows to help people cope with the stress?

Ideas like:
- Meditation
- Yoga
- Workouts
- CBT education

What do you guys think?

skallywag · 28-03-2020 5:28pm

You can lots of such material online very easily, e.g. YouTube.

Beasty · 28-03-2020 5:30pm

Threads merged

is_that_so · 28-03-2020 5:58pm

skallywag wrote: »

You can lots of such material online very easily, e.g. YouTube.

Lots of other stuff free now as well.

https://covid19.shanehastings.eu/giveback/

GolfNut33 · 28-03-2020 9:52pm

I don't do well at home for any period of time, even at christmas I'm not great. The mind starts to go dark and I slip in to bad place.

If I'm not working I'm either playing golf or out and about with the kids so this really isn't good for me and I'm worried.

Multipass · 28-03-2020 11:06pm

GolfNut33 wrote: »

I don't do well at home for any period of time, even at christmas I'm not great. The mind starts to go dark and I slip in to bad place.

If I'm not working I'm either playing golf or out and about with the kids so this really isn't good for me and I'm worried.

Same here. I normally have to go out every day otherwise I become unable to leave the house. Holidays set me back too. I’m not sure how I’m ever going to get out again after this.

fryup · 28-03-2020 11:42pm

theballz wrote: »

Considering this is having a mental health impact on the entire population, should our national broadcasters make more of an effort to help people?

something cheery like wall to wall cartoons

why they don't show cartoons anymore?? Tom & Jerry, Roadrunner, Daffy Duck, Bugs Bunny, Top Cat, Flinstones, Pink Panther, Felix the Cat

something cheery please

mouldybiscuits · 29-03-2020 10:11am

My social anxiety doesn't seem to be troubling me as much now lol

Hobgoblin11 · 29-03-2020 1:33pm

mouldybiscuits wrote: »

My social anxiety doesn't seem to be troubling me as much now lol

Introversion is rising like a Phoenix from the ashes

29-03-2020 4:13pm

Hobgoblin11 wrote: »

Introversion is rising like a Phoenix from the ashes

What about us poor auld ambiverts?

fryup · 29-03-2020 6:57pm

^^^^^^^^^^^^

nice one, just learned a new word

29-03-2020 10:00pm

fryup wrote: »

^^^^^^^^^^^^

nice one, just learned a new word

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/travisbradberry/2016/04/26/9-signs-that-youre-an-ambivert/amp/

Xertz · 30-03-2020 7:06am

I just can't sleep tbh.
Other than that I'm fine

blackwave · 30-03-2020 7:19am

Xertz wrote: »

I just can't sleep tbh.
Other than that I'm fine

Have you tried headspaces sleeping mediations very good for helping to relax.

DisneyLover · 30-03-2020 8:47am

So today is Monday. . I only slept 5 night's last week and Sunday I slept 11-7pm so plan is to get my mask and gloves and go out for a longggg walk. And going to try headspace and reading a book tonight.

I have GAD and I'm just worrying about feicin everything atm

jonnny68 · 30-03-2020 4:01pm

CBD oil (the proper stuff not the rubbish you buy in retail shops here) is really helping me personally through all of this otherwise my anxiety would be through the roof, i was an advocate of CBD before all this but it's now when im taking more that it's really helping me especially at night, everyone who suffers anxiety should take CBD oil, the proper stuff isn't cheap for a reason but is 100% effective, do some research before buying, realistically there are only around 15/20 brands worldwide worth buying out of thousands.

GolfNut33 · 30-03-2020 4:53pm

jonnny68 wrote: »

CBD oil (the proper stuff not the rubbish you buy in retail shops here) is really helping me personally through all of this otherwise my anxiety would be through the roof, i was an advocate of CBD before all this but it's now when im taking more that it's really helping me especially at night, everyone who suffers anxiety should take CBD oil, the proper stuff isn't cheap for a reason but is 100% effective, do some research before buying, realistically there are only around 15/20 brands worldwide worth buying out of thousands.

I use Celtic Wind which is great but bloody expensive, €100 odd for a small bottle. Any other recommendations?

Heighway61 · 30-03-2020 6:10pm

Heighway61 wrote: »

We are struggling.

I'm not in good health - cancer, heart block, chronic autoimmune disease, chronic progressive neurological condition.

My wife makes between 12 and 21 house calls per day for the HSE. She is terrified she will pass the infection on to me or to her clients (who she has personally got to know). There is no PPE equipment available. She is many years at this job and is hard-nosed and experienced but at night she cries.

It's affecting my eating and my sleep. My autoimmune condition is flaring due to the stress. We are assuming my wife is carrying the virus into the house when she gets home at night and are trying to zealously clean. However, every day we see something new that we should have been doing. If there was somewhere I could isolate myself for the duration of this thing I would do that, but there isn't.

We feel it is just a matter of time.

One of my wife's clients has tested positive. My wife has been told she won't be tested unless she is showing symptoms and to keep working. Same for home helps who have had contact with this person.

They don't know what they are doing. We're screwed.

jonnny68 · 30-03-2020 7:12pm

GolfNut33 wrote: »

I use Celtic Wind which is great but bloody expensive, €100 odd for a small bottle. Any other recommendations?

thats cheap compared to some of the American cbd i use which is by far and away the best you can get in the world, stuff like Nu Leaf Naturals and Pure Kana to name but 2 are the highest quality,and ship to Ireland too.

GolfNut33 · 30-03-2020 7:36pm

jonnny68 wrote: »

thats cheap compared to some of the American cbd i use which is by far and away the best you can get in the world, stuff like Nu Leaf Naturals and Pure Kana to name but 2 are the highest quality,and ship to Ireland too.

This is what I get. I really do find it works well.

https://celticwindcrops.com/products/multi-complex-hemp-cbd-oil-10ml-10-1000mg

jonnny68 · 30-03-2020 8:09pm

GolfNut33 wrote: »

This is what I get. I really do find it works well.

https://celticwindcrops.com/products/multi-complex-hemp-cbd-oil-10ml-10-1000mg

yeah ive heard of this brand mate but honestly check out USA CBD oil its in a different league completely to anything else, you pay more but its worth it

jonnny68 · 30-03-2020 9:00pm

The blueprint for premium CBD oil,they ship to Ireland, if you buy 2 of the 1450mg strength its cheaper and look for discount codes as well

https://nuleafnaturals.com/

PTH2009 · 31-03-2020 2:42am

I wonder what people will be like post this crisis

Will people be more aggressive/rude to retail workers, will alcohol/drug dependency rise etc

lucalux · 31-03-2020 2:47am

Anyone who'd like a month's free Calm app membership can PM me, i get a few gift memberships every month that don't get used much.

Meditation, sleep stories by actors/writers etc, and positive type stuff to be focusing on.

Calm.com has some resources on it's blog too, including some nice mindfulness journals to print off and muddle through

https://blog.calm.com/mindfulness-resources

fin12 · 01-04-2020 1:25am

What’s people experience with sleeping tablets? I’ve always had issues sleeping but it’s gotten very bad now.

PTH2009 · 01-04-2020 1:28am

fin12 wrote: »

What’s people experience with sleeping tablets? I’ve always had issues sleeping but it’s gotten very bad now.

Some are good some are bad

I take one phenergan 25MG tablet a night and it takes a while to kick in sometimes it doesn't work but sometimes It works ok

Be prepared for some weird sometimes scary dreams

Tell me how · 01-04-2020 2:07am

fin12 wrote: »

What’s people experience with sleeping tablets? I’ve always had issues sleeping but it’s gotten very bad now.

Have had good and bad experiences.

Talk to your GP.

jonnny68 · 01-04-2020 1:22pm

fin12 wrote: »

What’s people experience with sleeping tablets? I’ve always had issues sleeping but it’s gotten very bad now.

not good avoid it alt all possible, take CBD oil its fantastic for sleep but get the proper stuff and not the rubbish they sell in retail shops here.

Downlinz · 01-04-2020 4:35pm

PTH2009 wrote: »

I wonder what people will be like post this crisis

Will people be more aggressive/rude to retail workers, will alcohol/drug dependency rise etc

It'll take a long time for what has happened to sink in and really see what the societal change is.

I remember for the recession most people were still pretty jovial and optimistic in the early stages around 2008 and 2009 but it was only in the later stages around 2011 and 2012 the darkness really hit when many were long term unemployed, families were beginning to realise that their son/daughter who went abroad wasn't coming back and rural towns were becoming depopulated never to recover.

Icepick · 02-04-2020 10:11am

“Everything can be taken from a man but one thing: the last of the human freedoms—to choose one’s attitude in any given set of circumstances, to choose one’s own way.”
― Viktor E. Frankl, Man's Search for Meaning

PTH2009 · 02-04-2020 3:19pm

That saying

'Same **** different day' is becoming an annoying reality

But at the end of the day things could be a lot worse and quite possibly will be. Lots of heartbreak for familys all over the world

Unreg0909 · 02-04-2020 5:21pm

Heighway61 wrote: »

One of my wife's clients has tested positive. My wife has been told she won't be tested unless she is showing symptoms and to keep working. Same for home helps who have had contact with this person.

They don't know what they are doing. We're screwed.

Are you both ok?

Mental health and CoVid-19

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