Nest Hello Doorbell Install

micks_address · 31-03-2018 11:46pm

Stoner wrote: »

Nothing there to Indicate current requirements.

I'm 99 percent you'll be fine 10 VA os10 voltage amps so using 24 volts is good

I've googled and looks 3.8va?

http://elmarkholding.eu/en/DIN-Rail_Bell_Transformer/p352.html

nxbyveromdwjpg · 02-04-2018 9:24pm

Anyone know if its possible to integrate this thing with Sonos speakers?

micks_address · 02-04-2018 9:32pm

micks_address wrote: »

I've googled and looks 3.8va?

http://elmarkholding.eu/en/DIN-Rail_Bell_Transformer/p352.html

Picked up from neighbours this evening.. No customs.. Confused but happy.. Unboxing tomorrow when missus is away

micks_address · 02-04-2018 9:57pm

Aleena Loose Banker wrote: »

Anyone know if its possible to integrate this thing with Sonos speakers?

I doubt directly but I seen something over the weekend about Google home now streaming with any Bluetooth speakers?

micks_address · 03-04-2018 7:07pm

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micks_address · 03-04-2018 7:10pm

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micks_address · 03-04-2018 7:11pm

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micks_address · 03-04-2018 7:11pm

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OU812 · 03-04-2018 7:32pm

What was the import duty on it Mick?

micks_address · 03-04-2018 7:41pm

OU812 wrote: »

What was the import duty on it Mick?

Nothing at all. I was surprised at this. Box on front had address pal label stating nest hello and value usd of 229. Postman left with neighbours.. I'm sure they would have said if money was asked of them

cance · 04-04-2018 8:14am

micks_address wrote: »

Nothing at all. I was surprised at this. Box on front had address pal label stating nest hello and value usd of 229. Postman left with neighbours.. I'm sure they would have said if money was asked of them

I’m in the same boat as you, I’ve got one here but I’m struggling to find chimes and transformers suitable. I found plug based transformers listed for the ring pro which should work but the chime is the next concern.

Any tips would be appreciated on what you’re planning to do.

micks_address · 04-04-2018 10:00am

cance wrote: »

micks_address wrote: »

Nothing at all. I was surprised at this. Box on front had address pal label stating nest hello and value usd of 229. Postman left with neighbours.. I'm sure they would have said if money was asked of them

I’m in the same boat as you, I’ve got one here but I’m struggling to find chimes and transformers suitable. I found plug based transformers listed for the ring pro which should work but the chime is the next concern.

Any tips would be appreciated on what you’re planning to do.

We have an existing wired chime that im hoping to use. I'm trying to get in touch with our electrician re install but he must be on holidays. I'm hoping the transformer I got will do - I haven't found one anywhere that's 16 or 24v with 10VA. The highest I've found is 8VA but then I think the one I got at the weekend will probably work. Worse case scenario the hello won't have enough power and will function as a normal bell until I can get a suitable transformer. I've seen posts saying the Ring pro transformer works with the Nest hello but I cant' see anyone selling it separately. The hello works with voltage from 16 to 24v so im hoping feeding it 24v will be enough.. I don't know enough about voltage amperes to comment.. I'll let you know if I find my electrician. If I don't get fitted this week it will probably be week after next as away all next week myself

micks_address · 04-04-2018 10:06am

cance wrote: »

micks_address wrote: »

Nothing at all. I was surprised at this. Box on front had address pal label stating nest hello and value usd of 229. Postman left with neighbours.. I'm sure they would have said if money was asked of them

I’m in the same boat as you, I’ve got one here but I’m struggling to find chimes and transformers suitable. I found plug based transformers listed for the ring pro which should work but the chime is the next concern.

Any tips would be appreciated on what you’re planning to do.

Can you post link for the transformers you've found? - btw I emailed Nest support with transformer details I have asking if it would work., They replied saying that cause the product isn't released in Europe they don't know

copacetic · 04-04-2018 11:36am

I’ve been through a few ring transformers, and got a 25VA Schneider myself as an expensive high quality replacement. Amazon have a few but can be hard to find, eg

https://www.amazon.co.uk/PSS10-Transformer-safety-230VAC-Mounting/dp/B01MDJWFB7/ref=sr_1_fkmr1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1522838061&sr=8-1-fkmr1&keywords=24v+bell+transformer+10VA

https://www.schneider-electric.com/en/product/15215/modular-bell-transfomer---230-v-50..60-hz---output-12..24-v---25-va/

http://www.hager.ie/files/download/0/24930_1/0/Transformers%20Bells%20and%20Buzzers.pdf

micks_address · 04-04-2018 1:15pm

copacetic wrote: »

I’ve been through a few ring transformers, and got a 25VA Schneider myself as an expensive high quality replacement. Amazon have a few but can be hard to find, eg

https://www.amazon.co.uk/PSS10-Transformer-safety-230VAC-Mounting/dp/B01MDJWFB7/ref=sr_1_fkmr1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1522838061&sr=8-1-fkmr1&keywords=24v+bell+transformer+10VA

https://www.schneider-electric.com/en/product/15215/modular-bell-transfomer---230-v-50..60-hz---output-12..24-v---25-va/

http://www.hager.ie/files/download/0/24930_1/0/Transformers%20Bells%20and%20Buzzers.pdf

Does anyone know if the 10VA spec is important? I might order the one in the first link from amazon.. its 24v 10va

copacetic · 09-04-2018 11:59am

micks_address wrote: »

Does anyone know if the 10VA spec is important? I might order the one in the first link from amazon.. its 24v 10va

It’s hard to know, they may have given themselves some leeway on the power requirements but you couldn’t really guess how much, 8VA up may mostly work, but might not be as reliable for instance.

Tazium · 10-04-2018 10:30am

Interested to hear how your installations go. I've an 8VA transformer that Nest suggest will require a professional installation. When I reran the test on Nest's site suggesting I'd a 10VA transformer it returned the installation guides. Maybe this is the sweet spot?

micks_address · 10-04-2018 8:34pm

Tazium wrote: »

Interested to hear how your installations go. I've an 8VA transformer that Nest suggest will require a professional installation. When I reran the test on Nest's site suggesting I'd a 10VA transformer it returned the installation guides. Maybe this is the sweet spot?

I ordered the 10va transformer from above link. Install scheduled for later next week or early following

https://www.amazon.co.uk/PSS10-Transformer-safety-230VAC-Mounting/dp/B01MDJWFB7/ref=sr_1_fkmr1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1522838061&sr=8-1-fkmr1&keywords=24v+bell+transformer+10VA

copacetic · 10-04-2018 8:52pm

micks_address wrote: »

I ordered the 10va transformer from above link. Install scheduled for later next week or early following

https://www.amazon.co.uk/PSS10-Transformer-safety-230VAC-Mounting/dp/B01MDJWFB7/ref=sr_1_fkmr1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1522838061&sr=8-1-fkmr1&keywords=24v+bell+transformer+10VA

Delays are klilling me! Gone ahead and ordered one myself..

nxbyveromdwjpg · 12-04-2018 10:46am

Does anyone know when Nest will offer these in Ireland officially?

Moreilly · 12-04-2018 9:12pm

Aleena Loose Banker wrote: »

Does anyone know when Nest will offer these in Ireland officially?

this is what you get if you ask

Thank you for contacting Nest Support, my name is xxxxxxx and I will be assisting you today.

I am sorry but we do not have an accurate date for release for the Nest Hello! However, it is due for release this year. It has just been released in America and we are due for release next.

We would not recommend products that are purchased in America to be used in the UK, reasons being is that wiring and voltage requirements may differ which could affect the warranty of the product.

What I can recommend to do is to sign up for our Keep Me Posted notifications, with these email alerts you will receive a notification once a date has been announced. I have included the link below

Keep Me Posted

Again, apologies we do not have a more accurate date for release.

If you'd like to check out additional resources, feel free to visit nest.com/support. Or if you need more help with this case, visit nest.com/help. When you contact us, refer to case number xxxxxxx.

Hope you have a lovely day,

- xxxxxxxxx. | Nest Support

cance · 12-04-2018 11:06pm

I got mine installed during the week, my sparks did my doorbell and 3 stats together.

It’s not great news lads. The latency to and from the camera means there’s a visible 10-20 seconds before you get notified or can interact with the person. I assume this is due to them using American cloud compute.

The AP is a Ubnt pro and is 2 foot away, so it’s not the wifi and I have a reliable 35mb upstream.

micks_address · 12-04-2018 11:09pm

cance wrote: »

I got mine installed during the week, my sparks did my doorbell and 3 stats together.

It’s not great news lads. The latency to and from the camera means there’s a visible 10-20 seconds before you get notified or can interact with the person. I assume this is due to them using American cloud compute.

The AP is a Ubnt pro and is 2 foot away, so it’s not the wifi and I have a reliable 35mb upstream.

I assume its capturing video stream live?

copacetic · 12-04-2018 11:10pm

cance wrote: »

I got mine installed during the week, my sparks did my doorbell and 3 stats together.

It’s not great news lads. The latency to and from the camera means there’s a visible 10-20 seconds before you get notified or can interact with the person. I assume this is due to them using American cloud compute.

The AP is a Ubnt pro and is 2 foot away, so it’s not the wifi and I have a reliable 35mb upstream.

Some of early reviews in the states say the same, instant mechanical chime, without the ring type delay. Quick google home announcements, slow phone notifications.

Eg https://www.reddit.com/r/Nest/comments/89hxvd/nest_hello_latencydelay_between_button_press_and/

micks_address · 12-04-2018 11:17pm

copacetic wrote: »

Some of early reviews in the states say the same, instant mechanical chime, without the ring type delay. Quick google home announcements, slow phone notifications.

Eg https://www.reddit.com/r/Nest/comments/89hxvd/nest_hello_latencydelay_between_button_press_and/

I'd be ok with that...

cance · 13-04-2018 11:30am

micks_address wrote: »

I assume its capturing video stream live?

the video goes via the Ring servers / cloud for facial recognition. Direct connectivity via IP is not possible with the camera. It's extremely slow today but i'd imagine a european region will be added.

Google home notifications are not possible today as the app is not available on the irish app store.

So it's a mechanical chime or miss the people at the door.

cance · 13-04-2018 11:33am

Further to this, there's no IFTTT support for the Hello today. I'd have liked if i could get my thermostats or smoke / co2 sensors to chime for the door bell but no such luck.

I'm awaiting a sparks today to see if he can wire a chime. Will update later.

micks_address · 13-04-2018 11:36am

cance wrote: »

the video goes via the Ring servers / cloud for facial recognition. Direct connectivity via IP is not possible with the camera. It's extremely slow today but i'd imagine a european region will be added.

Google home notifications are not possible today as the app is not available on the irish app store.

So it's a mechanical chime or miss the people at the door.

Ring or Google servers?

cance · 15-04-2018 11:14pm

micks_address wrote: »

Ring or Google servers?

Nest / google. Sorry for the confusion.

micks_address · 16-04-2018 8:41am

cance wrote: »

Nest / google. Sorry for the confusion.

Any joy with the door chime? I wonder would it make any difference to the lag?
Waiting for my electrician to fit mine. Already have wired chime so interested to get on with it now.
Thanks,
Mick

cance · 16-04-2018 7:51pm

micks_address wrote: »

Any joy with the door chime? I wonder would it make any difference to the lag?
Waiting for my electrician to fit mine. Already have wired chime so interested to get on with it now.
Thanks,
Mick

Actually yes, he wired in a Byron cheap yoke from woodies and bobs your uncle.

https://www.woodies.ie/diy/doors-and-door-accessories/door-bells-and-chimes/byron-wired-wall-mounted-door-chime-battery-transformer-771-1119991

Your mileage may vary but it’s working great here.

Nedved85 · 16-04-2018 9:42pm

What's the verdict on this guys? Wait until it's released here?

micks_address · 16-04-2018 9:56pm

cance wrote: »

Actually yes, he wired in a Byron cheap yoke from woodies and bobs your uncle.

https://www.woodies.ie/diy/doors-and-door-accessories/door-bells-and-chimes/byron-wired-wall-mounted-door-chime-battery-transformer-771-1119991

Your mileage may vary but it’s working great here.

Cool lag gone?

micks_address · 23-04-2018 6:59pm

micks_address wrote: »

Cool lag gone?

Had electrician call around this evening. He doesn't know if the chime will support 24v?

notahappycamper · 26-04-2018 10:02pm

micks_address wrote: »

Had electrician call around this evening. He doesn't know if the chime will support 24v?

I have Ring Doorbell Pro using a 24V transformer and it hasn’t blown the chime yet. Installed since last July.

micks_address · 27-04-2018 10:20am

notahappycamper wrote: »

I have Ring Doorbell Pro using a 24V transformer and it hasn’t blown the chime yet. Installed since last July.

Thanks,
Just had the nest hello installed. Pretty straight forward. The only slightly odd thing is if you ring the doorbell our indoor chime sounds and it's announced on Google home that someone is at the door. I get the notification on the app straight away someone is at the door but if you press the bell straight away again the door chime doesn't ring. There is about a 20 second delay before pressing the button will sound the chime. Maybe this is by design? It will stop those people ringing and ringing the bell over and over.

micks_address · 27-04-2018 10:41am

micks_address wrote: »

Thanks,
Just had the nest hello installed. Pretty straight forward. The only slightly odd thing is if you ring the doorbell our indoor chime sounds and it's announced on Google home that someone is at the door. I get the notification on the app straight away someone is at the door but if you press the bell straight away again the door chime doesn't ring. There is about a 20 second delay before pressing the button will sound the chime. Maybe this is by design? It will stop those people ringing and ringing the bell over and over.

Have to say the video quality is excellent..

RunDMC · 27-04-2018 11:09am

micks_address wrote: »

Have to say the video quality is excellent..

Did you have to use the angle plate on the back of the Nest Hello?

R

micks_address · 27-04-2018 11:24am

RunDMC wrote: »

Did you have to use the angle plate on the back of the Nest Hello?

R

Hi, no I didn't bother with the wedge as wanted the doorbell looking directly out from the wall.

micks_address · 27-04-2018 11:25am

micks_address wrote: »

Hi, no I didn't bother with the wedge as wanted the doorbell looking directly out from the wall.

Screenshot from the nest app

RunDMC · 27-04-2018 12:56pm

Any issues with the chimes and the 24v transformer?

R

micks_address · 27-04-2018 1:13pm

RunDMC wrote: »

Any issues with the chimes and the 24v transformer?

R

None yet..

micks_address · 27-04-2018 3:51pm

micks_address wrote: »

Thanks,
Just had the nest hello installed. Pretty straight forward. The only slightly odd thing is if you ring the doorbell our indoor chime sounds and it's announced on Google home that someone is at the door. I get the notification on the app straight away someone is at the door but if you press the bell straight away again the door chime doesn't ring. There is about a 20 second delay before pressing the button will sound the chime. Maybe this is by design? It will stop those people ringing and ringing the bell over and over.

Indoor chime now working on every bell press. Maybe needed a firmware update.

copacetic · 27-04-2018 5:42pm

Great to hear it’s gone well, I’m still waiting on mine via address pal. They ‘delivered’ Monday when I was sitting in the house, then it’s back at postal depot. Then it’s at another depot and tracking never updates. The dont answer phone or emails. No delivery note either, can’t find it in depot, etc etc. then it turns out it’s because it’s owing customs, then they can’t take payment! Would stear clear off them if at all possible.

micks_address · 27-04-2018 5:44pm

copacetic wrote: »

Great to hear it’s gone well, I’m still waiting on mine via address pal. They ‘delivered’ Monday when I was sitting in the house, then it’s back at postal depot. Then it’s at another depot and tracking never updates. The dont answer phone or emails. No delivery note either, can’t find it in depot, etc etc. then it turns out it’s because it’s owing customs, then they can’t take payment! Would stear clear off them if at all possible.

Yes I think I was just lucky to be honest. Did addresspal ask you to email the nest invoice to them? I did. I'm waiting on nest temp sensors and could well be hit on the double I reckon..

cance · 27-04-2018 8:41pm

micks_address wrote: »

Thanks,
Just had the nest hello installed. Pretty straight forward. The only slightly odd thing is if you ring the doorbell our indoor chime sounds and it's announced on Google home that someone is at the door. I get the notification on the app straight away someone is at the door but if you press the bell straight away again the door chime doesn't ring. There is about a 20 second delay before pressing the button will sound the chime. Maybe this is by design? It will stop those people ringing and ringing the bell over and over.

How did you get the google home integration working? My phone keeps telling me google assistant isn’t available on the Irish AppStore.

micks_address · 27-04-2018 8:45pm

cance wrote: »

How did you get the google home integration working? My phone keeps telling me google assistant isn’t available on the Irish AppStore.

The nest app asked me if I wanted to enable Google home announcements so I said yes. Think my language set to US

micks_address · 27-04-2018 8:47pm

micks_address wrote: »

The nest app asked me if I wanted to enable Google home announcements so I said yes. Think my language set to US

Pic of nest app settings...

micks_address · 28-04-2018 9:19pm

micks_address wrote: »

Pic of nest app settings...

Quick question, for video doorbells like nest which are recoding continuously do you legally need a sign saying CCTV in operation?
Thanks,
Mick

garion · 29-04-2018 5:51pm

@Mick, where did you pick up that Elmark transformer? Need to pick one up and if yours works I'll get the same!

Delighted to hear it's all working as it should! Thanks for all the updates!

Nest Hello Doorbell Install

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