Is it just me or have SF vanished?

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Civil and human right are only available to some it seems.

Yes, SF/PIRA are all into human rights today. Pity they murdered a few thousand people recently though.

FrancieBrady wrote: »

That's what they were fighting for.

They were fighting for a UI, something that they didn't achieve. So, all those dead were for nothing.

That's why the people of NI reward SF..

SF vote share in the North has been dropping for quite a few years now. I guess they are becoming too like FF and FG :pac::eek:

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

I don’t believe for an instant that SF haven’t been just as active in pursuing coalition forming options over the last few weeks as FFG. The difference is that the media are openly hostile towards them and treat FFG as the “presumptive” coalition parties with disproportionately more coverage.

The reason you think SF are doing nothing is because the media aren’t reporting on them doing anything. No more, no less. The election campaign and its immediate aftermath should have proven to anyone in any doubt that the media in Ireland are, by and large, just as hostile towards SF as the political establishment.

I think what does them no favours is there wasn't ever the numbers but also no other party has come out as potential partners.

Now that's on the others as much as SF, but for all the talk of forming a "left block" it seems nothing has happened.

The SDs come out and say they don't go in with FG or FF, will they go in with SF? Why not come out and confirm it? Same with the Greens, Labour etc.

Feels like all the potential partners want to be opposition only. A month plus on and no block formed at all.

I voted SD, their behaviour since means I won't be going near them again, seem to have no interest in governing

Runaways wrote: »

Know what is truly comical?
You lot mindlessly falling for Leo’s every PR stunt.
He’s going back to be a GP. ffs give me strength. That is actual comedy.
Wish I’d been here for the defense of the letter to Kylie. I’m sure yis had a field day with that one.


*correction. He’s doing assessments by phone.

One day a week.

Don’t we have enough staged photos of him on the phone? Laughable

Well that means some people, a very few, will get seen that bit quicker - or maybe it helps free up another doctor to go work somewhere closer to where the clinical needs relating to Covid-19 infections are greater, it's no bad thing.

Somehow, I reckon if Leo came out said "f&ck it, I'm off" and grabbed some scrubs and started doing 96 hour weeks in an ED, the same people criticsing him for doing this would be criticising him for abandoning his role as Taoiseach.

https://twitter.com/holland_tom/status/1247042027113586688?s=20

Runaways wrote: »

Know what is truly comical?
You lot mindlessly falling for Leo’s every PR stunt.
He’s going back to be a GP. ffs give me strength. That is actual comedy.
Wish I’d been here for the defense of the letter to Kylie. I’m sure yis had a field day with that one.


*correction. He’s doing assessments by phone.

One day a week.

Don’t we have enough staged photos of him on the phone? Laughable

So, just to be clear, Varadkar re-registering as a doctor to do some assessments = PR stunt

Doherty taking to Facebook to highlight his wife's return to nursing (fair play to her, btw) = Not a PR stunt.



Is that about right?

Runaways wrote: »

I went with SD too and same as yourself. Can’t figure out what they’re about currently.

Led by a couple of whingers, one of whom was in a Ministerial position but couldnt hack it.
Now their best policy is sit on their arses and criticise others who are doing their best

tikkahunter wrote: »

Ah now francie she posted the videos herself at the time , her kids go to Scoil Cathriana where the first case was , she was the only parent to self isolate at the time , he new one is for a head cold

Didn't have a clue what you were on about.

How is a TD's 'wife' going back to work comaprable to the Taoiseach doing ONE shift a week?

Like seriously, arranging for the Taoiseach to do that shift will take up more time for HSE people than it will add.

Gavlor wrote: »

The fact that none of her party colleagues are deemed capable enough to take her place in the media speaks volumes. The worst crisis to hit this country since 1938 and the second biggest party have gone completely underground. It doesn’t inspire confidence.

I don't think that's how it works in SF - they don't need to replace her or have a stand-in because she's not really in charge.

She signed a statement stating that “in all matters pertaining to the duties and functions of an elected representative, I will be guided by and hold myself amenable to all directions and instructions issued to me by An Ard Chomhairle of Sinn Féin”.

All the elected reps did - so the ard comhairle, not McDonald run the show, and unless the entire ard comhairle is out of commission then no replacement is required.

Runaways wrote: »

I personally didn’t see that tbh.

So is it a PR stunt?

Doherty didn't have to publish details on his FB account, the press didn't door-step him - he proactively published it.

If, as you say, Varadkar's re-registering as a doctor is a PR stunt - is this not in the same category?

Runaways wrote: »

Have to agree there. He’d get nothing but crap no matter what he does. Comes with the role I guess but he’s more despised within his own party In grass roots than without. That’s saying something.
Personally just nothing is sincere about the man for my view. It’s all optics and photo ops. That just isn’t leadership. And he’s a bit of a cvnt in person by most accounts but that gets you to the top in this world.

So you accept second/third hand information about someone and decide that's their character?

Maybe it's time to step outside the echo-chamber.

And for the record, as much as despise McDonald, Doherty et al for what and who they support, I don't doubt for a minute that they are decent people, good parents and supportive spouses - whatever deep and fundamental political differences may exist, I'm not sure referring to someone as you have is warranted, especially in the absence of any firsthand experience of them.

Sultan_of_Ping wrote: »

So is it a PR stunt?

Doherty didn't have to publish details on his FB account, the press didn't door-step him - he proactively published it.

If, as you say, Varadkar's re-registering as a doctor is a PR stunt - is this not in the same category?

Somebody posting about his wife on FB is equivalent to the major story this was?? You are having a laugh here?
:D:D

Sultan_of_Ping wrote: »

I don't think that's how it works in SF - they don't need to replace her or have a stand-in because she's not really in charge.

She signed a statement stating that “in all matters pertaining to the duties and functions of an elected representative, I will be guided by and hold myself amenable to all directions and instructions issued to me by An Ard Chomhairle of Sinn Féin”.

All the elected reps did - so the ard comhairle, not McDonald run the show, and unless the entire ard comhairle is out of commission then no replacement is required.

They still require a media facing figure of authority.

Sultan_of_Ping wrote: »

Ok, it didn't make the Irish Times but it still got coverage in the national press....




Still unclear how Varadkar re-registering is a PR stunt, but Doherty taking to FB to express his deserved admiration for his spouse isn't?

Eh.....Leo is a known PR addict...has been pilloried many times before for frivolous and vanity led stunts? Has had to be stopped from wasting millions on it?

The other guy posted on FB and it was picked up by a couple of newspapers that his wife was going back into a 'full time' role.

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Eh.....Leo is a known PR addict...has been pilloried many times before for frivolous and vanity led stunts? Has had to be stopped from wasting millions on it?

The other guy posted on FB and it was picked up by a couple of newspapers that his wife was going back into a 'full time' role.

Ridiculous that anyone could think the two matters are comparable.

Leo is addicted to seeing himself in the papers.