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OnePlus 7 Discussion

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,534 ✭✭✭SickBoy


    dan786 wrote: »
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    Those prices are as good as giving 2 fingers to Eur/GB customers


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,352 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    SickBoy wrote: »
    Those prices are as good as giving 2 fingers to Eur/GB customers

    The dollar prices won't have state taxes included. This is mentioned every single year on nearly every product launch.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,158 ✭✭✭Royale with Cheese


    Jesus. Was going to buy off Amazon as they will sell to business customers vat free, but there's a nearly €100 price difference between €820 and £800. I'm hoping you'll be able to get one delivered to Ireland off on of the euro Amazon sites.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,463 ✭✭✭✭blade1


    dan786 wrote: »
    Pro starts at 699. Not 900.

    12GB 256GB 819.

    When I posted that I had only seen the top spec UK price was £800 so I was expecting it to be nearer €900 here.
    I wouldn't be going for the 699 one anyway.

    Looking at the review, it's looking less likely I'll go for it.
    I was 50/50ish but it's seems battery life isn't great and I want a good battery for traveling.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,654 ✭✭✭Nolimits


    TitianGerm wrote: »
    The dollar prices won't have state taxes included. This is mentioned every single year on nearly every product launch.

    And of course the EU version will have vat already added, which if we added Ireland's VAT rate to the American price would bring it up to $922

    Edit, that's taking the price of the most expensive phone


  • Registered Users Posts: 179 ✭✭IJS84


    I bought the 5 when released, best purchase I made tech wise in years, still going strong. I dont see anything here that would tempt me to run out and buy the 7/7pro over it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,008 ✭✭✭rabbitinlights


    No way! - Any chance they'll have it unlocked?

    https://www.three.ie/brand/oneplus/7pro/preorder/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 715 ✭✭✭ianob7


    No way! - Any chance they'll have it unlocked?

    More than likely as they won't have enough time to lock it themselves


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,314 ✭✭✭dan786


    No way! - Any chance they'll have it unlocked?

    https://www.three.ie/brand/oneplus/7pro/preorder/

    Will be unlocked at they only come in a dual sim config.

    If price is same as OP then better going with OP for support in case of any issues.

    Three are awful to deal with.

    If price is 70-80 cheaper than I would go with Three.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,036 ✭✭✭youcancallmeal


    Wow 206g is heavy. I've used to have the iPhone 180g 7plus and it was a brick.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,658 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


    I need to see more reviews but first impression is fairly underwhelming, still no wireless charging and still haven't got the cameras right by what I've read so far. Really thought this was the year in the run up to the launch too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,309 ✭✭✭✭wotzgoingon


    I wouldn't get too caught up on camera specs. Any Oneplus phone I have owned have always taking good pictures and the camera was always better than the previous iteration. So Oneplus 2's was better than one. And three was better than 2 and so on....


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    yeah going over 200g for the pro is heavy - a phone starts to really feel heavy at that point

    still not very good on the camera front either.

    having a pro model will alienate people who won't have the top model if they go for the non-pro one. even though other brands (e.g. Samsung etc) have done this for a while it's a new departure for oneplus (in the same phone segment)

    screen seems very nice but not sure that that makes up for the other aspects.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,309 ✭✭✭✭wotzgoingon


    As was said it's the screen that jacks up the price. Curved OLED 90Hz and 1440p.

    I'm guessing it's a Samsung panel. Apple used a Samsung panel in the X model and paid a very high price for them. But nobody beats a Samsung panel in OLED so you have to pay the price or get a inferior product.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,352 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    Does anyone know how much OP have closed the price gap on the big guys?

    OP1 compared to iPhone/Samsung up to OP7Pro to iPhone/Samsung S10+ (highest spec)?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,309 ✭✭✭✭wotzgoingon


    TitianGerm wrote: »
    Does anyone know how much OP have closed the price gap on the big guys?

    OP1 compared to iPhone/Samsung up to OP7Pro to iPhone/Samsung S10+ (highest spec)?


    Still more then or equal to 200 euro cheaper.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,352 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    Still more then or equal to 200 euro cheaper.

    Was thinking it was probably a similar price gap but OP are just upping the price in line with the big boys.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,496 ✭✭✭wayne040576


    TitianGerm wrote: »
    Was thinking it was probably a similar price gap but OP are just upping the price in line with the big boys.

    The highest priced model (256GB storage 12Gb ram) is over 800 Euro. All models are listed on their site now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,213 ✭✭✭Keith186


    Very nice looking phone and good price. I think it will sell pretty well even though it's their most expensive yet.
    They are just missing a few feature to really be a flagship killer though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,973 ✭✭✭IrishHomer


    I just noticed Three Ireland are going to be doing the OP7 Plus!

    They haven't pricing yet but you can register interest


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,658 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


    The strangest thing about the reviews so far is that Android Police have been the most positive and they normally hate absolutely everything about every phone.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,658 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


    IrishHomer wrote: »
    I just noticed Three Ireland are going to be doing the OP7 Plus!

    They haven't pricing yet but you can register interest

    The phone won't be much use with no signal.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,973 ✭✭✭IrishHomer


    The phone won't be much use with no signal.

    Phone is dual SIM so runs two networks so double signal :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,503 ✭✭✭marcbrophy


    The strangest thing about the reviews so far is that Android Police have been the most positive and they normally hate absolutely everything about every phone.

    Thought you were talking about Android Central for a second and was thinking that they usually jizz their pants at the mention of OnePlus :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,658 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


    marcbrophy wrote: »
    Thought you were talking about Android Central for a second and was thinking that they usually jizz their pants at the mention of OnePlus :D

    Central are normally a bit over-positive about everything. Police think everything is stupid and pointless, except the OnePlus 7 Pro apparently.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Still more then or equal to 200 euro cheaper.

    not really as the Samsungs have dropped in price since release online.

    the s10+ can be had for less than 700 euro now for the 128gb model


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,700 ✭✭✭54and56


    glasso wrote: »
    not really as the Samsungs have dropped in price since release online.

    the s10+ can be had for less than 700 euro now for the 128gb model

    Does that come with the free TWS earbuds?


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    54&56 wrote: »
    Does that come with the free TWS earbuds?

    no


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,658 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


    Seems it's ok in water anyway.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,314 ✭✭✭dan786


    Bought a 8GB/256GB Pro in Blue for 710. Not sure why though as my Mate 20 Pro is as good as that.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 689 ✭✭✭Skippy along


    dan786 wrote: »
    Bought a 8GB/256GB Pro in Blue for 710. Not sure why though as my Mate 20 Pro is as good as that.

    Was it 710 in euros?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,314 ✭✭✭dan786


    Was it 710 in euros?

    Got a student discount 5% was around 711 something. Last time I was a student was 10 years ago but that email is still active so used that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,700 ✭✭✭54and56


    IJS84 wrote: »
    I bought the 5 when released, best purchase I made tech wise in years, still going strong. I dont see anything here that would tempt me to run out and buy the 7/7pro over it.

    Same here.

    5 is still going strong.

    Reasons I wouldn't upgrade to the OP7 Pro:-

    - Too big.
    - Love the face recognition on the 5, not an option with the pop up selfie camera on the OP7 Pro.
    - Hate curved screen sides. Looks cool but makes handling tricky and results in accidental input/gestures.
    - The OP7 Pro seems to have relatively poor battery life. That massive 90hz screen seems to be a big drain.
    - Price. It's getting very close to top end Samsung pricing. So close in fact that I'd be tempted to spend a bit more on a Samsung or drop right down to the mid level where the OPO started out and go for something like the Pocophone F1 for €320 or so.

    Thankfully the OP5 I have is still cracking on. The only reason I would consider changing it in the near future would be if the battery started to decline but even then I'd be tempted to get OP to do a battery refresh and get another 18 months out of it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,352 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    54&56 wrote: »
    Same here.

    5 is still going strong.

    Reasons I wouldn't upgrade to the OP7 Pro:-

    - Too big.
    - Love the face recognition on the 5, not an option with the pop up selfie camera on the OP7 Pro.
    - Hate curved screen sides. Looks cool but makes handling tricky and results in accidental input/gestures.
    - The OP7 Pro seems to have relatively poor battery life. That massive 90hz screen seems to be a big drain.
    - Price. It's getting very close to top end Samsung pricing. So close in fact that I'd be tempted to spend a bit more on a Samsung or drop right down to the mid level where the OPO started out and go for something like the Pocophone F1 for €320 or so.

    Thankfully the OP5 I have is still cracking on. The only reason I would consider changing it in the near future would be if the battery started to decline but even then I'd be tempted to get OP to do a battery refresh and get another 18 months out of it.

    The Pro is only 0.06 inches taller than the 5 and 0.07 inches wider.

    Thought MKHB said that you can use face unlock? He was getting 4+ hours screen on time with a 1440p 90hz screen which doesn't seem to bad especially when you can get 48% charge in 20 minutes.

    Top end Samsung S10+ (128GB) is £772 from Amazon and that's dropped a bit from launch I think? The OP7 Pro is £649.

    I don't think I'll be buying anyway because my launch OP5 is still going strong. I would have always upgraded every year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,700 ✭✭✭54and56


    TitianGerm wrote: »
    The Pro is only 0.06 inches taller than the 5 and 0.07 inches wider.

    Wow, ok. Must try it out in the hand so. It just looks so much bigger in the reviews. I guess a lot of the extended screen size comes from being bezel free rather than increased dimensions of the device.
    TitianGerm wrote: »
    Thought MKHB said that you can use face unlock?

    He did and you can but you have to wait for the selfie camera to pop up and OP recommend against using it for face recognition as it has a functional life of 300,000 cycles which in fairness should last 14 years if you were to open your phone 57 times a day and never take a selfie at all :D
    TitianGerm wrote: »
    He was getting 4+ hours screen on time with a 1440p 90hz screen which doesn't seem to bad especially when you can get 48% charge in 20 minutes.

    That's not too bad to start with but it's a long way from best in class and in my experience battery performance generally goes downhill in day to day use so what will it be like in 12 or 18 months time? OP might come out with some clever tweaks to optimise screen drain but even so as a starting point on a new top end phone it's not great.
    TitianGerm wrote: »
    Top end Samsung S10+ (128GB) is £772 from Amazon and that's dropped a bit from launch I think? The OP7 Pro is £649.

    I don't think I'll be buying anyway because my launch OP5 is still going strong. I would have always upgraded every year.

    At that price differential I'd be tempted to go for the Samsung but like you I'm very happy with my 5 so it's not something I need to decide any time soon hopefully.

    Might update to the 7 if Liverpool beat Spurs on June 1st so my phone will be in sync with then when they win # 7 in 2020.

    Better than upgrading to the Huawei P30 Pro to be in sync with the number of years waiting for a PL title :o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,158 ✭✭✭Royale with Cheese


    Where are you seeing an S10+ for £776 on Amazon? Still coming up as £899 for me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,352 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    54&56 wrote: »
    Wow, ok. Must try it out in the hand so. It just looks so much bigger in the reviews. I guess a lot of the extended screen size comes from being bezel free rather than increased dimensions of the device.



    He did and you can but you have to wait for the selfie camera to pop up and OP recommend against using it for face recognition as it has a functional life of 300,000 cycles which in fairness should last 14 years if you were to open your phone 57 times a day and never take a selfie at all :D



    That's not too bad to start with but it's a long way from best in class and in my experience battery performance generally goes downhill in day to day use so what will it be like in 12 or 18 months time? OP might come out with some clever tweaks to optimise screen drain but even so as a starting point on a new top end phone it's not great.



    At that price differential I'd be tempted to go for the Samsung but like you I'm very happy with my 5 so it's not something I need to decide any time soon hopefully.

    Might update to the 7 if Liverpool beat Spurs on June 1st so my phone will be in sync with then when they win # 7 in 2020.

    Better than upgrading to the Huawei P30 Pro to be in sync with the number of years waiting for a PL title :o

    Yeah the lack of bezels would be a nice change from the OP5 and not much of an increase in overall size.

    Unfortunately the 90hz seems to be a bit of a battery hog but there is an option to switch to 60hz but I don't see the point really.

    I really like the pop up camera because I've no notch in the screen and I don't take selfies do it's great idea for me :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,158 ✭✭✭Royale with Cheese


    The pop up camera is what's really drawing me to the phone. If the P30 pro or S10+ had it I'd probably opt for one of those. Not sure how anyone can consider it a gimmick. It's not there to amuse you by moving up and down, it's providing a very real benefit to the user experience by getting that notch/punch hole off your screen.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,700 ✭✭✭54and56


    The pop up camera is what's really drawing me to the phone. If the P30 pro or S10+ had it I'd probably opt for one of those. Not sure how anyone can consider it a gimmick. It's not there to amuse you by moving up and down, it's providing a very real benefit to the user experience by getting that notch/punch hole off your screen.

    I seriously don't get this.

    I'd much prefer to have a tiny tear drop at the top of the screen for the selfie camera to facilitate face recognition 50+ times a day than a mechanical pop up screen which effectively does away with the option to have facial recognition.

    What user experience is being enhanced by not having facial recognition?


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    54&56 wrote: »
    I seriously don't get this.

    I'd much prefer to have a tiny tear drop at the top of the screen for the selfie camera to facilitate face recognition 50+ times a day than a mechanical pop up screen which effectively does away with the option to have facial recognition.

    What user experience is being enhanced by not having facial recognition?

    I think most people find facial recognition gimmicky and would just use the fingerprint scanner. I think most people would instead say, "why would you put a hole in your screen just to unlock your phone when that can be done in many other ways?"


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Where are you seeing an S10+ for £776 on Amazon? Still coming up as £899 for me.

    It's £772 from a 3rd party seller but you can also get it for ~£780 from Amazon Italy themselves.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,658 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


    54&56 wrote: »
    I seriously don't get this.

    I'd much prefer to have a tiny tear drop at the top of the screen for the selfie camera to facilitate face recognition 50+ times a day than a mechanical pop up screen which effectively does away with the option to have facial recognition.

    What user experience is being enhanced by not having facial recognition?

    I certainly don't want facial recognition over a fingerprint scanner.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,700 ✭✭✭54and56


    I think most people find facial recognition gimmicky and would just use the fingerprint scanner. I think most people would instead say, "why would you put a hole in your screen just to unlock your phone when that can be done in many other ways?"

    I definitely don't and use it almost all the time, particularly one handed.

    Lift up phone or take phone out of pocket, look at it and "pop" it's unlocked and I can see notifications etc. No second hand required to enter a PIN, Pattern or Fingerprint.

    I still don't get how a single action one handed unlock is somehow inferior to a two handed double action lock unless you are paranoid about the marginal security fingerprint access provides Vs facial recognition.

    I don't even have that level security to access my house!!

    Anyway. Don't want to derail the thread.

    OP7 - Meh for me overall.

    Might wait until there is a 7 Pro T or future variant which reverts to a built in facial recognition camera of some sort (behind screen like the fingerprint scanner?) and there are improvements in battery performance.


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    54&56 wrote: »
    I definitely don't and use it almost all the time, particularly one handed.

    Lift up phone or take phone out of pocket, look at it and "pop" it's unlocked and I can see notifications etc. No second hand required to enter a PIN, Pattern or Fingerprint.

    I still don't get how a single action one handed unlock is somehow inferior to a two handed double action lock unless you are paranoid about the marginal security fingerprint access provides Vs facial recognition.

    You don't use two hands to unlock with your fingerprint/pin/pattern, that would look silly. You can also unlock it without lifting up your phone. I don't understand the point you are trying to make.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,700 ✭✭✭54and56


    You don't use two hands to unlock with your fingerprint/pin/pattern, that would look silly. You can also unlock it without lifting up your phone. I don't understand the point you are trying to make.

    My reference point was one handed out of a pocket or whatever. Perhaps I don't have the dexterity of you and others and don't mind looking silly but I always found holding the phone whilst trying to enter a PIN/Pattern/Fingerprint to be tricky and prone to dropping of the phone hence I'd end up holding with one hand and unlocking with the other.

    Flat on a desk/table isn't a problem.


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    54&56 wrote: »
    My reference point was one handed out of a pocket or whatever. Perhaps I don't have the dexterity of you and others and don't mind looking silly but I always found holding the phone whilst trying to enter a PIN/Pattern/Fingerprint to be tricky and prone to dropping of the phone hence I'd end up holding with one hand and unlocking with the other.

    Flat on a desk/table isn't a problem.

    You are definitely in the severe minority, I've never known anyone to have that problem. If you're having difficulty reaching the middle of the phone with your thumb one-handed to unlock the phone, let alone the side, the phone's definitely too big for you.

    If you have the dexterity to lift the phone from your pocket towards your face without dropping it then you certainly have the dexterity to place your thumb in the middle of the phone without dropping it. How can you take the phone out of your pocket without your thumb naturally positioned to access the middle of the screen?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,354 ✭✭✭coldfire1x


    54&56 wrote: »
    My reference point was one handed out of a pocket or whatever. Perhaps I don't have the dexterity of you and others and don't mind looking silly but I always found holding the phone whilst trying to enter a PIN/Pattern/Fingerprint to be tricky and prone to dropping of the phone hence I'd end up holding with one hand and unlocking with the other.

    Flat on a desk/table isn't a problem.

    I use face unlock all the time and find it much easier.

    Everyone has their own preferences but since the day I got it, never use anything else.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,658 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


    I thought it went on sale today? I was going to get one to replace the Mrs' Pixel and all I'm getting is "available in 6 days" on every model.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,503 ✭✭✭marcbrophy


    I thought it went on sale today? I was going to get one to replace the Mrs' Pixel and all I'm getting is "available in 6 days" on every model.

    Went on limited pre-order at 10am.
    It probably sold out quick enough, I'd imagine :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,658 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


    marcbrophy wrote: »
    Went on limited pre-order at 10am.
    It probably sold out quick enough, I'd imagine :)

    Ah, cheers. So next Tuesday is the proper release then?


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