Formula 1 2020 - General Discussion Thread (See MOD warning on first post)

TCP/IP wrote: »

Let's hope anybody but the social justice warrior that is Hamilton wins it. Please dear god.

Plus a million
He's no where near MSC or Senna levels, if he breaks MSC record this way I'll be super pissed.

A little over a month to go for the first race of the season. Woohoo!

Inviere wrote: »

Agreed. It's a cobbled together mess. The problem now for me is if anyone except Hamilton wins the title, they'll have the "wouldn't have won if it were a full season" monkey on their back. I also think the double header idea is total and utter crap unless they can intervene to make sure the second race actually differs from the first, what's the point?

The whole thing is a gimmick. F1 isn't a natural state of things like a human running fast or jumping high or lifting heavy things. The entire sport is a contrived gimmick.

But this season will be a one-off. That's for sure. But the champion will be the WDC. Every year a champion wins in a dominant car people say "they wouldn't have won if they weren't in the best car". People will probably say that about the winner this year too.

Listening to a podcast on the topic of the races being different. They reckon the second race will be a bit dull as everyone will have had a chance to perfect their setup. But the reckon the second start will be carnage. They will likely be holding grudges from wen someone overtook them at the first corner in the very same race last week..

There is also supposedly a vote tomorrow about the second race using an F2-esque reverse grid format to prevent being identical.

pjohnson wrote: »

There is also supposedly a vote tomorrow about the second race using an F2-esque reverse grid format to prevent being identical.

God that sounds god awful.
I hope that doesnt happen.


For the second race they should use a different layout.

ELM327 wrote: »

Did he have it from 1988 to 1994? As LH will have 2014-2020


How was ferrari in 1996 when MSC joined?

Senna had the best car between 88-91 and once again in 94. So he only went 2 seasons without the best car and he'd some of his best performances during this 2 years but he also whinged a lot during those two seasons about not having the equipment to battle Williams. Considering quite a few posters and experts say that Ferrari had the strongest car in 17 and 18 and it was Vettel and team mistakes when Hamilton actually won the Championship I'd say there's a lot of similarities between the two if anything Hamilton's record is better than Senna's.

This is it wrote: »

Looking back through various races the last few weeks it's clear on most tracks that Mercedes have the best car but Ferrari really do themselves no favors with their strategies and mess them up a lot. Maybe it's taking risks to minimise the Mercedes advantage but it rarely works.

I agree, I've been watching a lot of the first half of 2019 on youtube and it's clear that ferrari had the faster car but through driver mistakes, reliability and poor strategy they lost a number of wins/1-2 finishes.


Bahrain and China '19 were the most recent

flazio wrote: »

Could someone check something here, if we take the team that started as Jordan and is currently Racing Point as the same team throughout (like when we call Renault the Enstone outfit if referring back to their Lotus or Benetton days) is Sergio Perez the longest serving driver of the Silverstone team?

If you include all the historical team names and drivers then yes Perez has the most (121). In the original entry he was second (91) behind Adrian Sutil (109).

skipper_G wrote: »

If you include all the historical team names and drivers then yes Perez has the most (121). In the original entry he was second (91) behind Adrian Sutil (109).

Fisi could be there or there abouts. Two separate Jordan spells and a stint at Force India.

TCP/IP wrote: »

Let's hope anybody but the social justice warrior that is Hamilton wins it. Please dear god.

TCP/IP wrote: »

Completely agree with you there no were near those two legends he fell into the perfect era for Mercedes and their dream machine cars.

It's amazing how well you can remember how good Senna and Schumaker can drive going back 20 - 30 years, and then conveniently forget the amount of times Hamilton gets racially abused isn't it?

muckwarrior wrote: »

How is he a SJW? Genuine question, as I don't follow him on social media since I don't like him.

I believe last year he posted a few things along the lines of save the environment etc etc, as well as going vegan and encouraging others to do so, nothing too mad really

SureYWouldntYa wrote: »

I believe last year he posted a few things along the lines of save the environment etc etc, as well as going vegan and encouraging others to do so, nothing too mad really

Yeah really not too mad. I also don't like him but can't fault him for those particular issues. He put his foot in his mouth where he talked about going vegan for the environment and then talked about sending his private jet across the Atlantic to pick up his dog and bring it to America. He got awful stick for that and he sold his jet and started flying on normal scheduled flights. That's hard to fault him really. He's probably a bit of a fool more than anything sinister.

The drivers don't have time to be curious about the world or current affairs. Last year the Japanese gp was under threat from hurricanes (so was the rugby World Cup) it was pretty big global news because it was a huge threat to major cities in Japan. A journalist asked Vettel what he thought about it and he said he hadn't even heard about it. The drivers work on a need to know basis and they don't really give a shyte about things they don't need to know.

Hamilton is not being a out of order on the George Floyd stuff. I think anyone can get behind the idea that some things need to change.