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UFC/MMA Gambling. **NO AFTER-TIMING**

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  • #502
    stiffler123
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,651 ✭✭✭stiffler123


    Taking Tate and Hart. If Hart uses his wrestling, he should win.


  • #503
    mailburner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,923 ✭✭✭✭mailburner


    mailburner wrote: »
    another one on gonzaga at 12/5 to beat travis browne (betvictor)
    mailburner wrote: »
    have a few euro on kevin gastelum to beat uriah at 3s

    Not going near gonzaga again

    fair play to kevin, took the fight to uriah
    I found it a hard one to call but I thought uriah may have nicked it myself
    the man is fearless and has a good career ahead of him


  • #504
    Steve O
    Closed Accounts Posts: 595 ✭✭✭Steve O


    Yea I bet on Gonzaga and Kevin, ended up in the plus anyway thatnks to Kevins odds being out of wack.


  • #505
    Shazbot
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 813 ✭✭✭Shazbot


    I was checking the odds for UFC on Fox coming up this week and saw absolutely no value.

    Something that did catch my eye was Davis vs Magalhaes on UFC 159. Vinny is 9/4 outright which is really good value at the moment. I don't see this staying on the feet for long. Vinny will push for a takedown and if Davis takes Vinny down he can attack well off his back.

    No odds out for methods but if they come out soon I'll go with Vinny by sub.


  • #506
    Ian Whelan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 599 ✭✭✭Ian Whelan


    Yeah, no value available really, could be a card for the short price accumulator.


  • #507
    Scar Tissue
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,391 ✭✭✭Scar Tissue


    If I had money to be betting I'd take Bendo points @ 4/5, always seems a safe bet with him.

    Bit riskier, but a Diaz win / Bendo dec returns 27.60 from 10


  • #508
    califano
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,440 ✭✭✭califano


    I always hate points if its a 5 round fight.


  • #509
    MrStuffins
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,257 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    rounders123 wrote: »
    I always hate points if its a 5 round fight.

    Haven't the last 6-7 UFC (Male) title fights gone to a decision?


  • #510
    Wrongway1985
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,386 ✭✭✭Wrongway1985


    MrStuffins wrote: »
    Haven't the last 6-7 UFC (Male) title fights gone to a decision?

    Think so ya besides Rousey, Barao is the only title holder to finish in 2013 so far


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  • #511
    Scar Tissue
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,391 ✭✭✭Scar Tissue


    MrStuffins wrote: »
    Haven't the last 6-7 UFC (Male) title fights gone to a decision?

    The last 7 of Bendos fights have gone to decision, the most recent 3 coming in 5 round matches.


  • #512
    Mellor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,603 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    MrStuffins wrote: »
    Haven't the last 6-7 UFC (Male) title fights gone to a decision?
    You are forgetting Barao v McDonald.
    only GSP v Diaz went to decision since then. Before that, the last finish was Jones v Belfort I think.


  • #513
    califano
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,440 ✭✭✭califano


    Surprisingly good recent stat so. I can never bring myself to go pts in a championship fight though.


  • #514
    MrStuffins
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,257 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    Forgot about Barao. But look at the Lightweight title fights. Edgar v BJ twice, once v Maynard, wice v Bendo, Bendo v Diaz........ a lot of decisions!


  • #515
    mailburner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,923 ✭✭✭✭mailburner


    Have a few quid on thomson at 11/8
    was as big as 17/10 yesterday

    really feel this is a 50/50 fight which will end
    in a dec either way

    I couldnt see diaz beating the likes of melendez and think
    thompson is up there with the likes of him
    I do think this will be a stand up war which will suit diaz
    but thompson will have no problem banging for three rounds and
    no matter what diaz throws, thomson will keep coming back at him and
    feel thomson will be a bit quicker than diaz which will be the difference
    between the two
    I like nate diaz but have a lot of respect for thomson and hope
    he takes this one and stays injury free for a year or two
    I'd love to see him go on a run
    This is one of the few occasions im tempted to have a bet on
    this being fotn but 9/4 is a bit skinny for that


    Hendo melendez is one I cant figure out as hendo has fought
    better fighters but melendez has looked the part in strikeforce
    one side of me thinks hendo points at around 4/5 looks a safe bet
    yet another side of me thinks melendez points at 7/2 looks too big
    I just cant bring myself to have a bet on it but the fact that its
    priced at around 4/11 to go the distance probably sums it up


  • #516
    mailburner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,923 ✭✭✭✭mailburner


    mailburner wrote: »
    Have a few quid on thomson at 11/8


    Good man josh
    what a performance but never in my wildest
    dreams could i have seen a ko

    that doesnt do melendez chances any harm in fairness
    he's surely overpriced but i'll take the money and run


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  • #517
    mailburner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,923 ✭✭✭✭mailburner


    took this after round one
    round two just started
    melendez seems to have bendos measure so far

    UFC Matches Benson Henderson v Gilbert Melendez
    21-04-2013 02:50
    Match Betting
    Gilbert Melendez @ 13/8


  • #518
    mailburner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,923 ✭✭✭✭mailburner


    mailburner wrote: »
    took this after round one
    round two just started
    melendez seems to have bendos measure so far

    UFC Matches Benson Henderson v Gilbert Melendez
    21-04-2013 02:50
    Match Betting
    Gilbert Melendez @ 13/8

    not to be sadly
    hard one to call

    melendez was 4/1 before the start of round 5
    I still wonder how but the bookies win again


  • #519
    Shazbot
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 813 ✭✭✭Shazbot


    A lot of after timing going on lately. Let's get some discussion going before 159.

    Magalhaes is still at 9/4 outright. Very good value there. I'd be tempted to go with Sheila Gaff @ 4/1 but it's very hard to bet against an Olympic wrestler.

    I've gone with Vinny to win @ 9/4.
    Bisping on points @ 6/5

    A small single on Chael outright at 13/2 just because I want him to win. Probably not going to happen but I'm not breaking the bank with the bet.


  • #520
    mailburner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,923 ✭✭✭✭mailburner


    Shazbot wrote: »
    A lot of after timing going on lately. Let's get some discussion going before 159.

    Bisping on points @ 6/5

    little or no aftertiming recently in fairness unlike in the past by
    a few others

    I'm with you on bisbing also to win just about the only way
    I think he can win this..on points

    Torn between the above and a nelson bisbing double
    Thing is about kongo....when i've backed him he loses
    when i oppose him he wins (barry/mitrione)
    No fighter in the ufc has cost me more but I think nelson
    will put him to sleep


  • #521
    Mellor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,603 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    mailburner wrote: »
    little or no aftertiming recently in fairness unlike in the past by
    a few others

    I think he means the likes of;

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=84283447&postcount=198


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  • #522
    tower08
    Registered Users Posts: 57 ✭✭tower08


    mailburner wrote: »
    little or no aftertiming recently in fairness unlike in the past by
    a few others

    I'm with you on bisbing also to win just about the only way
    I think he can win this..on points

    Torn between the above and a nelson bisbing double
    Thing is about kongo....when i've backed him he loses
    when i oppose him he wins (barry/mitrione)
    No fighter in the ufc has cost me more but I think nelson
    will put him to sleep

    Id go nelson, kongo wont be able to finish roy but roy definitley has the ability to finish kongo!

    What are peoples thoughts on pat healy vs miller?


  • #523
    Shazbot
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 813 ✭✭✭Shazbot


    mailburner wrote: »
    little or no aftertiming recently in fairness unlike in the past by
    a few others

    There was a bit going on in the UFC on fox thread.
    Torn between the above and a nelson bisbing double
    Thing is about kongo....when i've backed him he loses
    when i oppose him he wins (barry/mitrione)
    No fighter in the ufc has cost me more but I think nelson
    will put him to sleep

    I'm with you on Nelson v Kongo. I don't think Kongo's chin will hold up.
    What are peoples thoughts on pat healy vs miller?

    Healy has got a nice price and was on a nice streak in Strikeforce winning 9 of his last 10, only losing to Thomson. I think Miller will be too much for him and Miller will get the sub.


  • #524
    Ian Whelan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 599 ✭✭✭Ian Whelan


    I'm on the Khabilov (1/3) and Nelson (1/2) double with Powers - Works out at even money, I'm feeling very confident.


  • #525
    mailburner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,923 ✭✭✭✭mailburner


    Mellor wrote: »
    I think he means the likes of;

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=84283447&postcount=198


    meant to say this gambling thread
    the event threads are always full of that stuff


  • #526
    califano
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,440 ✭✭✭califano


    Mellor wrote: »
    I think he means the likes of;

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=84283447&postcount=198


    haha like we care! ''Oh why didnt you tell us who your 8 were so we cold have done the same as 38 post poster damn you to hell''.


  • #527
    mailburner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,923 ✭✭✭✭mailburner


    just took the 5/4 on a bisbing pts win (ladbrokes)

    I certainly won't be looking at any live betting if I
    stay up this time :o


  • #528
    Scar Tissue
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,391 ✭✭✭Scar Tissue


    rounders123 wrote: »
    haha like we care! ''Oh why didnt you tell us who your 8 were so we cold have done the same as 38 post poster damn you to hell''.

    It is headwrecking when people aftertime though, regardless of the post count, but fair play to that lad he wasn't BS'ing


  • #529
    Shazbot
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 813 ✭✭✭Shazbot


    Some more markets are available for this weeks card.

    Magalhaes by sub is 6/1. Miller by sub is 4/1

    I've put 2 singles on that.


  • #530
    MrStuffins
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,257 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    Shazbot wrote: »
    Some more markets are available for this weeks card.

    Magalhaes by sub is 6/1. Miller by sub is 4/1

    I've put 2 singles on that.

    That's a sensational price! I'm grabbing that!


  • #531
    califano
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,440 ✭✭✭califano


    Scar Tissue wrote: »
    It is headwrecking when people aftertime though, regardless of the post count, but fair play to that lad he wasn't BS'ing

    is seems to be alright!


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  • #532
    p to the e
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,323 ✭✭✭p to the e


    Shazbot wrote: »
    Some more markets are available for this weeks card.

    Magalhaes by sub is 6/1. Miller by sub is 4/1

    I've put 2 singles on that.

    As good as Magalhaes is on the ground Davis is a sensational wrestler and I can't see him being taken down. On the other hand I'm all for that Miller by submission. I like Pat Healy but he's not in the league of Jim Miller who is still a top ten LW in my opinion.

    Roy Nelson by submission is 13/2. Usually I'd say that this will be a stand up war but with Kongo's new game plan of boring fighters to death against the cage this might be worth a shot.


  • #533
    JoeyJJ
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,663 ✭✭✭JoeyJJ


    Though Jones by KO would be less than 6/4 after I seen how low he was on the win.


  • #534
    MrStuffins
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,257 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    p to the e wrote: »
    As good as Magalhaes is on the ground Davis is a sensational wrestler and I can't see him being taken down.

    This may be true, but Vinny can win from his back. You just have to consider, if they fought a number of times, would you expect Vinny to win by Sub in slightly more than 1 in ever 7 times they fought? If so, it's value.


  • #535
    Shazbot
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 813 ✭✭✭Shazbot


    p to the e wrote: »
    As good as Magalhaes is on the ground Davis is a sensational wrestler and I can't see him being taken down.

    I don't see this fight staying on the feet. Even if Vinny is on his back he's very dangerous. Magalhaes is a very high level grappler, won ADCC not long ago beating Werdum in the final. I'd say he'll stop Davis.


  • #536
    Mr. Manager
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 11,139 Mod ✭✭✭✭Mr. Manager


    Shazbot wrote: »
    I don't see this fight staying on the feet.

    I'm of the opposite opinion. See this being a 15 minute grindfest against the cage.


  • #537
    Ray Mond
    Closed Accounts Posts: 536 ✭✭✭Ray Mond


    Bisping belcher FOTN 10/3 think they will go at it for 3 rounds if nobody gets ko'd


  • #538
    weemcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,435 ✭✭✭weemcd


    Anyone think people are overlooking Kongo?


    Almost everyone I've seen has been picking Nelson


  • #539
    Ray Mond
    Closed Accounts Posts: 536 ✭✭✭Ray Mond


    weemcd wrote: »
    Anyone think people are overlooking Kongo?


    Almost everyone I've seen has been picking Nelson

    No not at all nelson is a tough mother ****a he's not getting stopped , Kongo will get ko'd or dropped and then subbed . He lost me a lot of accumulators he's so inconsistent. He's easy to hit and is chinny.
    Nelson a beast


  • #540
    MrStuffins
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,257 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    weemcd wrote: »
    Anyone think people are overlooking Kongo?


    Almost everyone I've seen has been picking Nelson

    Kongo has always been the real nowhere man of the HW division. He's not going to out grapple Nelson. He's not going to sub him. And even if he brought Hacksaw Jim Duggan to the cage with him to smash him over the head with a 2x4, it's unlikely he's gonna knock him out........

    Also, Nelson is just better IMO. My money would be on Big Country.


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  • #541
    Scar Tissue
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,391 ✭✭✭Scar Tissue


    Think Roy is 6/5 on PP for the KO, have a bit of that! :p


  • #542
    Mr. Manager
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 11,139 Mod ✭✭✭✭Mr. Manager


    Scar Tissue wrote: »
    Think Roy is 6/5 on PP for the KO, have a bit of that! :p

    For a slight difference in price I'd take Big Country to finish in round 1 @3.3 instead of the KO/TKO @2.4


  • #543
    Mr. Manager
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 11,139 Mod ✭✭✭✭Mr. Manager


    What's the verdict on FOTN? PP has marked Sonnen/Jones as the favourite @4.0

    Some decent value to me in Caraway/Bedford @26.0 and more appealing, Miller/Healy @7.0


  • #544
    mailburner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,923 ✭✭✭✭mailburner


    Cereal Rapist wrote: »
    For a slight difference in price I'd take Big Country to finish in round 1 @3.3 instead of the KO/TKO @2.4

    Good thinking there
    I think by midway through the second round nelson will start gassing
    so it wont be too hard for kongo to avoid a ko
    Cereal Rapist wrote: »
    What's the verdict on FOTN? PP has marked Sonnen/Jones as the favourite @4.0

    Some decent value to me in Caraway/Bedford @26.0 and more appealing, Miller/Healy @7.0

    agree with you here
    cant have jones/chael at 3s, i dont see an exciting fight here
    bisb/belch a possiblity but short enough at 10/3 and although bisbing
    get the job done, he's rarely in exciting fights imo
    easy to rule out davis/magal and for me nelson/kongo also
    miller/healy is big in comparison and that would be my pick
    great odds on that I think


  • #545
    Mr. Manager
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 11,139 Mod ✭✭✭✭Mr. Manager


    mailburner wrote: »
    agree with you here
    cant have jones/chael at 3s, i dont see an exciting fight here
    bisb/belch a possiblity but short enough at 10/3 and although bisbing
    get the job done, he's rarely in exciting fights imo
    easy to rule out davis/magal and for me nelson/kongo also
    miller/healy is big in comparison and that would be my pick
    great odds on that I think

    As much as I like Bisping, he's not exciting to watch. Same with Davis. He's about as fun as AIDS.

    Will stick something on FOTN but just not Sonnen/JJ.


  • #546
    broders3
    Registered Users Posts: 85 ✭✭broders3


    I went with Miller/Healy for FON @ 6/1 on Paddy Power.

    I threw a couple of euro on Gilliante to beat St Preux @13/8 which I thought was generous odds.

    Also Jones to win by KO is 6/4, but he is also 6/4 to win by submission. For my money he is an absolute certainty to win by one of those means. So by putting equal amounts of money on both outcomes you come out on top.
    I just put a fiver on each method, both of which pay back 12.50, so you get both your stakes back plus 2.50 in my case.

    What ye think?


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  • #547
    Scar Tissue
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,391 ✭✭✭Scar Tissue


    broders3 wrote: »
    Also Jones to win by KO is 6/4, but he is also 6/4 to win by submission. For my money he is an absolute certainty to win by one of those means. So by putting equal amounts of money on both outcomes you come out on top.
    I just put a fiver on each method, both of which pay back 12.50, so you get both your stakes back plus 2.50 in my case.

    What ye think?

    Likely? Very

    Certainty? Never.


  • #548
    broders3
    Registered Users Posts: 85 ✭✭broders3


    Very true. Best laid plans and all that.

    It would be on a level of GSP getting KO'd by Serra if Sonnen gets the win.


  • #549
    Mr. Manager
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 11,139 Mod ✭✭✭✭Mr. Manager


    3 bets for tonight.

    €15 FOTN Miller/Healy
    €35 accum Jones, Nelson, Miller, Khabilov
    €50 Jones by TKO/KO


  • #550
    Mellor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,603 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    Khabilov win, Bisping by Dec and Nelson TKO.
    All singles


  • #551
    Mr. Manager
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 11,139 Mod ✭✭✭✭Mr. Manager


    Mellor wrote: »
    Khabilov win, Bisping by Dec and Nelson TKO.
    All singles

    Was just talking about these picks with Bohsman, agree with each pick except Bisping. I think he'll finish.


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