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Ireland Team Talk XI: Team of nervoUS MOD warning Post 1

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  • #5762
    Former Former
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,728 ✭✭✭Former Former


    kilns wrote: »
    not a surprise but still disappointing

    It really is time to get over it and move on.


  • #5763
    Former Former
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,728 ✭✭✭Former Former


    Anyway, it's a good team. If they play like they did against Wales, especially if England are Vunipolaless, then we're in with a big shout.

    Handicap is 7 points which is probably fair given it's in Twickenham but I'm optimistic


  • #5764
    kilns
    Registered Users Posts: 3,525 ✭✭✭kilns


    Former Former wrote: »
    It really is time to get over it and move on.

    move on from what?


  • #5765
    Burkie1203
    Registered Users Posts: 11,790 ✭✭✭✭Burkie1203


    lawrencesummers wrote: »
    Surprised hodnett wasn’t involved during the week. His stats are excellent and he knows where the try line is.
    I can see a back row of CJ , Hodnett and Doris being very dangerous down the road.

    Hodnett has one training run v Kings. Let's remember that.


    Team is a bit meh. Think England will win by 5-10.


  • #5766
    prawnsambo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,375 ✭✭✭✭prawnsambo


    kilns wrote: »
    move on from what?
    You have to get over it first. Do keep up.


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  • #5767
    kilns
    Registered Users Posts: 3,525 ✭✭✭kilns


    prawnsambo wrote: »
    You have to get over it first. Do keep up.

    I'm over it :D


  • #5768
    Granny15
    Registered Users Posts: 1,129 ✭✭✭Granny15


    Burkie1203 wrote: »
    Hodnett has one training run v Kings. Let's remember that.


    Team is a bit meh. Think England will win by 5-10.

    Don't go throwing your crepe on everyone if you think so.

    I think we're in with a great chance of a win.

    Minus the Vunipolas England are ordinary.


  • #5769
    kilns
    Registered Users Posts: 3,525 ✭✭✭kilns


    I do hope I am wrong but I think the Welsh game could be a bit like the Scottish game at the World cup as it gave us a false sense of where we were. In reality Wales were woeful, played with the 4th choicer 10 for a chunk of the 2nd half, a rookie at 13 and missing 3 or 4 of their most important players.

    As I said I hope I am wrong this is a much bigger test but not as big as it would have been considering the guys England are missing.

    I am not surprised by the selection because as a new coach why break up a winning side in a six nations cycle but I am disappointed as I would like to see Doris and Cooney as I geniunely believe they would improve the team over the current stagnant 6 and 9. Just my opinion, dont shoot


  • #5770
    kilns
    Registered Users Posts: 3,525 ✭✭✭kilns


    Granny15 wrote: »
    Don't go throwing your crepe on everyone if you think so.

    I think we're in with a great chance of a win.

    Minus the Vunipolas England are ordinary.

    Tuliagi too would be huge loss for them


  • #5771
    Former Former
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,728 ✭✭✭Former Former


    kilns wrote: »
    move on from what?

    That's the spirit!


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  • #5772
    Burkie1203
    Registered Users Posts: 11,790 ✭✭✭✭Burkie1203


    Granny15 wrote: »
    Don't go throwing your crepe on everyone if you think so.

    I think we're in with a great chance of a win.

    Minus the Vunipolas England are ordinary.

    I think England are fairly ordinary and we can win but I think we might still struggle with ball in hand if we can't get the ball into space out wide quick enough to make ground as we are only a few games into a new way of playing and it hasn't been smooth so far execution wise


  • #5773
    jm08
    Registered Users Posts: 11,301 ✭✭✭✭jm08


    The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »
    Still, it definitively answer a few questions : in Andy's mind, POM is better than Doris, and Conway is better than Earlsie.
    Apart from his POM mistake, its our best team, clearly.
    2021 could be the Year of the Doris though.

    I'd say its more down to horses for courses. England has a very good lineout and POM is better there. No Vunipolos will make a huge difference as well.

    As for Conway and Earls - Earls is more versatile and a better bench option than Conway (who is playing out of his skin) with Henshaws injury profile.

    Doris might get his start v. France, so don't despair yet!


  • #5774
    Sanjuro
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,239 ✭✭✭Sanjuro


    Sorry, I must have missed some news, but is Billy Vunipola out? I know Mako has a family emergency, but I'd thought Billy was still in the squad.


  • #5775
    AdamD
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,720 ✭✭✭✭AdamD


    jm08 wrote: »
    I'd say its more down to horses for courses. England has a very good lineout and POM is better there. No Vunipolos will make a huge difference as well.

    As for Conway and Earls - Earls is more versatile and a better bench option than Conway (who is playing out of his skin) with Henshaws injury profile.

    Doris might get his start v. France, so don't despair yet!

    He certainly isn't picking Conway ahead of Earls because Earls is a better bench option


  • #5776
    prawnsambo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,375 ✭✭✭✭prawnsambo


    Sanjuro wrote: »
    Sorry, I must have missed some news, but is Billy Vunipola out? I know Mako has a family emergency, but I'd thought Billy was still in the squad.
    Broke his arm again.


  • #5777
    Sanjuro
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,239 ✭✭✭Sanjuro


    prawnsambo wrote: »
    Broke his arm again.

    Damn. That's a shame.


  • #5778
    kilns
    Registered Users Posts: 3,525 ✭✭✭kilns


    If Tuliagi doesnt make it, I would be confident of us winning. England already weakened will not have the power game to overpower us and get over the gain line which our defence should handle then with ease.

    I cant see us scoring too many tries ourselves however as I cant see much quickball for our backs

    Unfortunately the referee (one of the worst) could have a major say


  • #5779
    lawrencesummers
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,617 ✭✭✭lawrencesummers


    Burkie1203 wrote: »
    Hodnett has one training run v Kings. Let's remember that.


    Team is a bit meh. Think England will win by 5-10.

    That’s pretty much the same as Degan and dorris


  • #5780
    jm08
    Registered Users Posts: 11,301 ✭✭✭✭jm08


    AdamD wrote: »
    He certainly isn't picking Conway ahead of Earls because Earls is a better bench option


    Both could be accommodated in the same team. I suppose Earls is a better better bench option than Stockdale.


  • #5781
    connachta
    Registered Users Posts: 7,965 ✭✭✭connachta


    So you give Dillane back please, IRFU


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  • #5782
    arsebiscuits1
    Registered Users Posts: 3,703 ✭✭✭arsebiscuits1


    connachta wrote: »
    So you give Dillane back please, IRFU

    Only Addison and O'Toole released apparently

    https://www.irishrugby.ie/2020/02/19/ireland-team-named-for-twickenham/


  • #5783
    connachta
    Registered Users Posts: 7,965 ✭✭✭connachta


    arsebiscuits1 wrote: »
    Only Addison and O'Toole released apparently

    https://www.irishrugby.ie/2020/02/19/ireland-team-named-for-twickenham/


    FFS
    We're going with a 95K 20y-o guy in Murrayfield again


  • #5784
    Shefwedfan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    jm08 wrote: »
    Both could be accommodated in the same team. I suppose Earls is a better better bench option than Stockdale.

    Why? Earls over wing/13, can’t really say 15 anymore

    Stockdale covers wing/15...so both give similar flexibility

    I do think it same sense to have an experienced back on bench to come on, especially Earls who still have pace and would be up against a tired defence


  • #5785
    PTH2009
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,878 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Hard to believe a win Sunday and were possibly going into a grand slam game in Paris

    A repeat of 2018 would be nice Sunday and then to get a triple crown would be nice also


  • #5786
    PTH2009
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,878 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Hard to believe a win Sunday and were possibly going into a grand slam game in Paris

    A repeat of 2018 would be nice Sunday and then to get a triple crown would be nice also


  • #5787
    Dog Botherer
    Registered Users Posts: 1,641 ✭✭✭Dog Botherer


    lawrencesummers wrote: »
    That’s pretty much the same as Degan and dorris

    Deegan has over 50 games for leinster including Champions Cup final experience. Doris has almost 30 Leinster caps and is first choice for the best team in Europe. that is not comparable to 50 minutes against possibly the worst professional rugby team in Europe.

    c’mon man.


  • #5788
    Dubinusa
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,607 ✭✭✭Dubinusa


    Continuity means nothing really! We had continuity last season.... Anyway, let's see a proper game plan.
    England are missing key players and we do have a good chance.
    I would have selected Dillane off the bench. He is a better ball carrier than Toner. I think that Dillane would be better in the collisions too!
    A big week for Healy. He has got to play well for us to have a shot. I think he's been very ordinary this far. Kilcoyne is a vastly better bench option and I suppose Farrell is looking for a dynamic ball carrier late in the match.
    Either way, England have been very poor so far and we haven't been great either. I expect England to win by 10.


  • #5789
    Henry Ford III
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 17,752 Mod ✭✭✭✭Henry Ford III


    Shefwedfan wrote: »


    Still all the people here are happy......

    International rugby selections have many considerations.

    Keeping people on the web happy isn't one of them.


  • #5790
    Shefwedfan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    A lot will be decided by the weather, what is it like for Sunday?


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  • #5791
    Bridge93
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,018 ✭✭✭Bridge93


    Dry, mild with light breezes forecast currently. Ideal weather conditions unless something shifts


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