Niallof9 wrote: » Yet another post detailing I have no clue about what I'm talking about. Subscribe to me for jerky knees and the hyperest of hyperbole
Niallof9 wrote: » There's no pressure, no seeding, no crowds, no squad restraints. Fans wouldn't give a **** if we finished bottom.
arsebiscuits1 wrote: » FYP. Wont be seeing you
bilston wrote: » The reaction to Sarurday's 11 point defeat away to the Six Nations champions with a team missing about a third of it's first choice players and with new combinations at half back, in the back three, at hooker and second row would seem to suggest different.
clsmooth wrote: » Do you enjoy rugby at all?
Niallof9 wrote: » Yeah and i'd enjoy a coach that had a set of balls to play people who are performing. all we are doing once again is continuing on the same ****e. Granted he's shown an inclination to try people in big games. But as i argued it doesn't follow much logic. Keenan isn't any further along the road than say Lowry. Why has Baird been mothballed? All we can hope for is that if Coombes, Penny, Byrne, Casey continue on by the end of the season he will have no choice, much the same with Doris, Kelleher. I just find the reticence hugely frustrating and familiar. This is nothing rugby just try combinations and bring guys in for experience.
aloooof wrote: » Just because he hasn't picked the exact combinations you want, doesn't mean he hasn't tried new combinations. Even where he has (Doris, Kelleher) you don't seem to want to give him any credit it for it, instead claiming he had no choice!
Niallof9 wrote: » I'll wait till the 13th for proper outrage. i'll wait and see.
clsmooth wrote: » Pre Wales game. Surprisingly enough not a peep out of you after that game. Or throughout the entirety of 2018. Defeat to England and we’re back in business. I think your points might be more respected if you at least tried to focus a bit on the positive rather than the negative at all stages. Nobody wants to hear incessant whingeing. Is everything perfect with how the team is progressing? Obviously not. Is it fair to call for a head coach’s head after 9 months? No. Will he ultimately be a success? Who knows. But he deserves time. We’ve lost 3 games, twice against World Cup finalists England at Twickenham and away in Paris (I suggest you look back at the records and see if that’s an unusual occurrence for Irish rugby). We’ve seen the likes of Kelleher, Connors, Doris and Keenan all been brought through and given high profile starts. Stockdale has been tried at 15 as has Larmour. JGP and Lowe have been given consecutive starts. Baird is working his way back from injury but would more than likely have been involved if he hadn’t picked it up. What more do you want? Casey and Harry Byrne at 9/10 for Georgia? They’ll get there but they’ve a handful of Pro 14 games and putting pressure on them to perform at this level in key positions on the pitch might not necessarily be the right call for them at this stage. Be realistic, have some patience and try to see the green shoots!
sydthebeat wrote: » we had close to 700 caps across the 23 for the wales game (692) That included 2 uncapped players and 7 others with less than 5 caps against england we had a total of 634 across the 23 man squad, again with 8 players on 5 or less caps against georgia i think we will see something around the 450 cap mark.. it will be a wider mixture of younger inexperienced players with a few older heads who can help to guide them through the game. it wont be a rerun of last years U20s, as much as some people will whinge when its not. England started seven, yes SEVEN, players in the starting 15 against georgia that had 50 or more caps !!! the 23 had a grand total of 741 caps !!! this against georgia... perhaps some of our whingers on here should go find english rugby boards and whine about how they arent giving youth a chance against a team like georgia... because its an ignorant and ill informed opinion to hold to think you just throw out a team of kids and thats a valuable use of a test game.
clsmooth wrote: » What more do you want? Casey and Harry Byrne at 9/10 for Georgia? They’ll get there but they’ve a handful of Pro 14 games and putting pressure on them to perform at this level in key positions on the pitch might not necessarily be the right call for them at this stage. Be realistic, have some patience and try to see the green shoots!
Niallof9 wrote: » i'm not going to repeat myself
clsmooth wrote: » Is that a promise?
Yeah_Right wrote: » This made me think of last nights game, Glasgow v Munster. I think that match will have done a lot in the development of Casey and Healy. Probably more than if they had been in the Ireland camp this week. Getting an away win against a niggley, feisty Glasgow in those conditions!! I thought the 2 of them were great. Yes, they made mistakes but it was a big step forward from the two of them.
salmocab wrote: » Leinster are away to scarlets next week I think. Byrne might be better playing that in a structured Leinster team than in a scratch Ireland team that has no cohesion because of 10/12 changes. Not sure who Munster have but I’d think much the same about Casey. I genuinely don’t see much merit in throwing together a team to play Georgia when those players are unlikely to ever lineout for Ireland together again. The only merit in making the changes will likely be in resting people.
Niallof9 wrote: » But that's exactly whats going to happen either way? why does it have to be seen as throwing a team together rather than a free shot at developing guys. so you have a choice play an international against a hardened team, even ten minutes or an 80 in a pro 14. there's an argument that yes the latter is better for development. The problem with the scenario you laid out is as soon as the tournament is over the big boys go back into the provincial teams. and we're back to people saying you can;t select such and such, he's only played pro 14. and on and on it goes until the evidence is too much to ignore. It happened with Ringrose if people can recall. the real issue is anybody who has watched Munster recently knows somebody like Casey will be an international. its just delaying the inevitable. maybe the pro 14 games are the making of him alright. anyway the real issue is with Baird for me. Coombes looks like an international in waiting as well. we are in real need of big bad bastards with an edge and difference in their carrying. its been missing since Seanie went away.
Niallof9 wrote: » i was told the same around the original squad and yet here we are. anyway yeah look who cares. they keep repeating the same mistakes so whats the point. and then anybody on here who dares question gets filleted. Its a bit more balanced and critical on the unofficial provincial forums. The same people who said Ringrose needs more time etc will keep holding court here and on and on we'll go.
Dog Botherer wrote: » Wales rang the changes against Georgia and all we learned was that Wales are cack. which everyone already knew. there’s no point in bringing in a 23 of young lads with no caps and some auld lads with a handful. Georgia have a decent pack but the Irish lads are likely to face a tougher test in a mid-intensity interprovincial. Farrell is probably going to use this opportunity to bed in some combinations and give a few more young lads a go with experienced international quality players around them. that is incredibly more valuable than putting out a scratch side, getting bashed up by a big Georgian pack and stumbling to ~15 point victory.
Niallof9 wrote: » Farrell has probably been the quickest of any coach to do it en masse. ... Its not just Casey and harry Byrne (who are probably still too raw)
Niallof9 wrote: » We tend to back a player and then its harder to get off the team than on it hence the huge individual cap numbers our players rack up. We're seeing the same with Ryan (albeit deserved). Healy is the opposite now at this stage. A legend who needs to be challenged for his own sake which is where EOS comes in,so fair enough.
Niallof9 wrote: » so you have a choice play an international against a hardened team, even ten minutes or an 80 in a pro 14. there's an argument that yes the latter is better for development.
Niallof9 wrote: » Yeah and i'd enjoy a coach that had a set of balls to play people who are performing.
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