Borderlands 3

Penn · 26-09-2019 3:26pm

Patch incoming. Fixes whatever the issue was with Guardian Ranks, nerfs the Porcelain Pipe Bomb and sorts vending machine items by rarity, among other general fixes

https://forums.gearboxsoftware.com/t/borderlands-3-update-9-26-2019-patch-notes/3655673

26-09-2019 3:57pm

Make hay while the sun shines so :pac:

EDIT: No mention of Hollow Point in the patch notes, thought they'd fix that or do something to it or even refund tokens and reset stats so people wren't stuck with it and could opt not to spec into it.

Dcully · 26-09-2019 4:07pm

Finished first playthrough yesterday and was lvl 40, few games of circle of slaughter and 6 or 7 runs of Graveward mayhem 3 with the pipe bomb and i hit 50 very soon with 15 or so legendaries .

Im now equipped the legendary flakker and mirv hex grenade and everything just gets destroyed in TVHM, so far that is :P

Penn · 26-09-2019 8:15pm

Finished main story myself. Main thoughts

Hopefully that's Lilith gone now for good, she was really overused the last few games and got a far better ending than she deserved. Brick, Mordy and Tina were severely underused. No point killing Maya and replacing her with Ava, that was cheap nonsense and poorly done. Zer0 was cool but sad to see no other BL2 vault hunters or Athena, especially since the end of TPS implied Athena was important and they'd need all the help they could get (or just, Lilith could do everything I suppose). Tannis is annoying and shouldn't have been given a bigger role. Calypso Twins were sh*t. Story had some good parts and some good side characters (Balex, Clay), but overall disappointing. Also, final boss was way too easy to kill.

So, not sure whether to start TVHM or Mayhem Mode. Leaning towards Mayhem mode for a while, get to Lvl50, then maybe try Fl4k, see how he plays.

26-09-2019 9:37pm

Penn wrote: »

Finished main story myself. Main thoughts
Hopefully that's Lilith gone now for good, she was really overused the last few games and got a far better ending than she deserved. Brick, Mordy and Tina were severely underused. No point killing Maya and replacing her with Ava, that was cheap nonsense and poorly done. Zer0 was cool but sad to see no other BL2 vault hunters or Athena, especially since the end of TPS implied Athena was important and they'd need all the help they could get (or just, Lilith could do everything I suppose). Tannis is annoying and shouldn't have been given a bigger role. Calypso Twins were sh*t. Story had some good parts and some good side characters (Balex, Clay), but overall disappointing. Also, final boss was way too easy to kill.

So, not sure whether to start TVHM or Mayhem Mode. Leaning towards Mayhem mode for a while, get to Lvl50, then maybe try Fl4k, see how he plays.

Look at the sun when on Pandora during the day.

Penn · 27-09-2019 9:24am

Started Mayhem Mode and went to both Athenas and the Voracious Canopy to clean up some crew challenges. Yeah I like Mayhem mode. Far better challenge, all enemies scaled up, a lot more hectic. Still didn't die (or even FFYL) much, but I think a big part of that is just the tankyness of the build I'm using for Amara. Getting much better gear too, including some anointed purples. Might keep going with this to get to Lvl50 then start a TVHM playthrough so all mission rewards etc should be Lvl50 too.

What do you have to do to get to the next Mayhem Mode level? Like how do you actually complete Mayhem Mode 1 to unlock Mayhem Mode 2? Or do you just select it from the pedestal thing on Sanctuary?

sticker · 27-09-2019 10:14am

Hi,

I'm really struggling with Katagawa Ball - I'm level 18. Does the co-op work well? Is it worth my while bringing in anotehr player? Is this an option? Billy no mates, I'm a solo player so it would be a random pick...

Also, as it costs money to revive, what happens when you run out of currency?!

Thanks!

Penn · 27-09-2019 10:31am

sticker wrote: »

Hi,

I'm really struggling with Katagawa Ball - I'm level 18. Does the co-op work well? Is it worth my while bringing in anotehr player? Is this an option? Billy no mates, I'm a solo player so it would be a random pick...

Also, as it costs money to revive, what happens when you run out of currency?!

Thanks!

If you run out of money you can still respawn for free. But you'll not be able to afford any new ammo so if you're really struggling or get to that point your best move might be to fast travel out and level up and get better gear, then play through the area again.

Are you PS4? I'm not entirely sure how the co-op works (I think you can set it so he'll scale differently for both of us, so he'd be Lvl18 for you and Lvl42 or so for me), but if you want I could jump on and help you if you're still stuck later tonight (not sure what time I'll get playing at).

Send me a PM with your PSN if you're on PS4 and I'll try help you out

sticker · 27-09-2019 10:36am

Penn wrote: »

If you run out of money you can still respawn for free. But you'll not be able to afford any new ammo so if you're really struggling or get to that point your best move might be to fast travel out and level up and get better gear, then play through the area again.

Are you PS4? I'm not entirely sure how the co-op works (I think you can set it so he'll scale differently for both of us, so he'd be Lvl18 for you and Lvl42 or so for me), but if you want I could jump on and help you if you're still stuck later tonight (not sure what time I'll get playing at).

Send me a PM with your PSN if you're on PS4 and I'll try help you out

Thanks so much!! Sending you PM now!

_CreeD_ · 27-09-2019 10:36am

sticker wrote: »

Hi,

I'm really struggling with Katagawa Ball - I'm level 18. Does the co-op work well? Is it worth my while bringing in anotehr player? Is this an option? Billy no mates, I'm a solo player so it would be a random pick...

Also, as it costs money to revive, what happens when you run out of currency?!

Thanks!

If you're on PC I can help if you see me on over the weekend, Epic ID = Ahriakin . Otherwise if whenever you do run into walls like this try some other events (if you have any side missions or challenges left, or head to one of the combat arenas) to level/loot up a bit more - just having one or 2 weapons move up a tier can make a huge difference

The revive cost is a % (7 I believe) of your total so it should never hit Zer0. Though I know it can break your heart sometimes to see those SDU dreams dwindle for a time

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sticker · 27-09-2019 10:40am

_CreeD_ wrote: »

If you're on PC I can help if you see me on over the weekend, Epic ID = Ahriakin . Otherwise if whenever you do run into walls like this try some other events (if you have any side missions or challenges left, or head to one of the combat arenas) to level/loot up a bit more - just having one or 2 weapons move up a tier can make a huge difference

The revive cost is a % (7 I believe) of your total so it should never hit Zer0. Though I know it can break your heart sometimes to see those SDU dreams dwindle for a time .

Thanks for tip! I'm on PS$ unfortunately. But Penn might be able to help!

I find that farming to level up is very tricky. Most side missions arte done and random mobs drop minimum XP!

Also, I cant fast travel to Boss room? Have to go throughn entire level each time?

sticker · 27-09-2019 11:38am

So I just jumped online and did a social >campaign. 5 Minutes later and I'm already past Katagawa Ball!

I assume any progress in this mode carries over to my main solo campaign? If I hit a miestone and quit, it remains with me?

It was tough though - Mobs seems much tankier than my solo but its probably level scalling I suspect!

Thanks again all! I always have this option if I hit a wall!

Dcully · 27-09-2019 12:57pm

The end game is mayhem. TVHM probably is not necessary although it is great for xp and guardian ranks (if it weren't bugged) plus I got a much better porcelain pipebomb than my first playthrough.

Im playing TVHM set to mayhem 3 difficulty, i reckon thats the real endgame.

27-09-2019 3:22pm

Dcully wrote: »

Im playing TVHM set to mayhem 3 difficulty, i reckon thats the real endgame.

Are you seeing stuff drop anointed more frequently on that ?

Dcully · 27-09-2019 3:46pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Are you seeing stuff drop anointed more frequently on that ?

Yeah and some anointed legendaries, its nice when anointed legendaries drop with anointed stats perfect for your build.
Good bit of epic anointed weapons too.

riggerman · 27-09-2019 4:41pm

Anyone else having the game crash on the gravemind. Since the patch I can't progress and finish off the boss. On ps4 Pro and this is annoying the hell out of me.

_CreeD_ · 27-09-2019 4:55pm

sticker wrote: »

Also, I cant fast travel to Boss room? Have to go throughn entire level each time?

There's a big disparity on level design in the game. Some, including their bosses, are ideal with a reasonable amount of FT points and vending machines, ideally both right in front of a boss area but yeah many seem to want you to take the scenic route over and over again. Though if you are farming there is usually always a save point at least nearby so just exit-to-menu and restart and you should be right next to it.

27-09-2019 5:12pm

Hotfix today, they nerffed Jakobs pistols ffs :mad:

https://forums.gearboxsoftware.com/t/borderlands-3-hot-fixes-9-27-2019/3675684

Penn · 27-09-2019 5:34pm

riggerman wrote: »

Anyone else having the game crash on the gravemind. Since the patch I can't progress and finish off the boss. On ps4 Pro and this is annoying the hell out of me.

Haven't had that. Though mine did crash right when I was about to pick up the Vault key after beating the final boss. Thankfully didn't have to beat the boss again and could just run back into the Vault, but was still annoying.

Not surprised with some of the patch notes. From what I was seeing/reading this morning, Fl4k could have an insane build and destroy everything in seconds, whereas it seemed like Zane wasn't really viable at all. Still imagine Jakobs pistols will be top of the list in terms of damage, but sad to see them get a bit of a nerf all the same.

gimli2112 · 27-09-2019 6:39pm

Dcully wrote: »

Im playing TVHM set to mayhem 3 difficulty, i reckon thats the real endgame.

that's what I'm at too I'm just not convinced there's a difference between tvhm mayhem 3 and normal mayhem 3

wotzgoingon · 27-09-2019 9:33pm

I just received the slot so I can equip a mod. Is it just me but you nearly have to study the mods to figure out what they do. I have to open skill tree and go back to mod to see what they do wasn't like that in the previous games.

I still find it weird playing the game, I don't know if it's the graphics or what but if it was not broke they should have not tried to fix it is all I can say. I even jumped back into Borderlands 2 just to see and yes I find Borderlands 2 easier on the eye and movement and shooting.

Penn · 27-09-2019 9:53pm

Game being a little buggy b*tch tonight. Had two crashes tonight, one just where I was about to beat Rampager on Mayhem 2.

Penn · 27-09-2019 10:56pm

Penn wrote: »

Game being a little buggy b*tch tonight. Had two crashes tonight, one just where I was about to beat Rampager on Mayhem 2.

Just beat Rampager and game crashed again while travelling back to Sanctuary.

Bloody hell...

27-09-2019 10:57pm

wotzgoingon wrote: »

I just received the slot so I can equip a mod. Is it just me but you nearly have to study the mods to figure out what they do. I have to open skill tree and go back to mod to see what they do wasn't like that in the previous games.

I still find it weird playing the game, I don't know if it's the graphics or what but if it was not broke they should have not tried to fix it is all I can say. I even jumped back into Borderlands 2 just to see and yes I find Borderlands 2 easier on the eye and movement and shooting.

I thought it was just me not being familiar with the skill trees but no you are right. To be honest the only reason I've the class mod I have is for the +17% pistol damage and the same for the artefact. They'd make no difference to my build otherwise.

Still on the hunt for a deathless artefact. If anyone on Xbox has one I'll gladly trade for it.

_CreeD_ · 27-09-2019 11:19pm

I don't use mods for the skills primarily because I don't want them dictating my build in any form. And they pretty much all help in some way. Similar to Enfilade my choices are on what main stats they help with. My current fave being a 25% all weapon damage boost, couldn't tell you what else is on it as I don't care at all.

27-09-2019 11:35pm

Thats another thing on my list a +% weapon damage mod, they are epic but rarer than legendary ones it seems

27-09-2019 11:46pm

_CreeD_ wrote: »

I don't use mods for the skills primarily because I don't want them dictating my build in any form. And they pretty much all help in some way. Similar to Enfilade my choices are on what main stats they help with. My current fave being a 25% all weapon damage boost, couldn't tell you what else is on it as I don't care at all.

Yeah theres nothing I've seen yet like say moneyshot in the last game that i'd take a +3 in over anything thing else. Theres a lot of stacking going on in the skills that don't help with bosses at all unless there are adds and in this you need to keep those alive for second winds if needed or just ignore the even on mayhem 3 depending on the roll.

Vicxas · 28-09-2019 7:22am

They buffed sniper rifles and SMG's, thank christ for that.

Nicetrustedcup · 28-09-2019 7:45am

Anyone else been playing this on the one X?.

Mine keeps crashing none stop while I am playing borderlands 3. This is the only game that I have ever seen crash a console makeing it fully turn off.

Vicxas · 28-09-2019 7:46am

Nicetrustedcup wrote: »

Anyone else been playing this on the one X?.

Mine keeps crashing none stop while I am playing borderlands 3. This is the only game that I have ever seen crash a console makeing it fully turn off.

Does it do it in a particular area?

Try run it in Performance mode if you have it on visual mode see if that helps.

Nicetrustedcup · 28-09-2019 8:10am

Vicxas wrote: »

Does it do it in a particular area?

Try run it in Performance mode if you have it on visual mode see if that helps.

Loads of different areas, all updates have been applied to the game.

Have not tryed takeing it over visual mode yet.

Will try it the next it crashes and put it on performance mode

gimli2112 · 28-09-2019 9:21am

Vicxas wrote: »

They buffed sniper rifles and SMG's, thank christ for that.

I do like the way they balance things by making everything crazier, just about every other dev should take note.

Penn · 29-09-2019 10:27am

I was complaining about how legendaries drop too often (I had 4 drop from Gigamind on Mayhem 2 yesterday), but after playing the Mayhem modes, and particularly Mayhem 3, I kinda understand the reasoning behind it.

In BL2/TPS, you only really needed maybe 8-10 legendaries; one of each element type and which use different ammo types, and one or two which are really particular to your build.

Here though, because of the Mayhem modifiers, you might find yourself with over half your backpack being largely redundant at any given time, say if pistols, smgs and shotguns do decreased damage, and elemental damage is reduced. So all of a sudden you need to have more weapons of different types, and elemental/non-elemental ones too.

I still do think they drop too often (I got a legendary jakobs pistol in a small cash safe yesterday), but there's definitely a need to not just have the same rotation and reliance of 4-5 legendaries like in previous games. Mayhem mode really forces you to keep swapping and changing.

gimli2112 · 29-09-2019 11:09am

at this stage I'm looking for very specific loot, the only thing at the moment that's not a walk in the park is slaughterhouse on Mayhem 3
found a purple mod for the siren last night that gave me a point in 2 1/1 skills in the fist of the elements tree, 3 in the blue, +5 grenades and 31% smg damage. I have a relic on the way that's going to give me 16% smg damage and 18% hok. A huntsman that does bonus damage when my action skill ends.

I don't even bother looking at the modifications anymore they don't make a big difference. Killed the gravewarden yesterday on mayhem 3 thinking it seemed a little harder checked mods and it was -50% smg -50% fire damage and that's what I used

29-09-2019 11:32am

It's maddening that a lot of the loot is in the general loot pool and not tied to certain bosses.

gimli2112 · 29-09-2019 1:18pm

one of the guys i'm playing with has 12 characters. one to store ars, one for smgs, one for shotties......
we're idiots but we're clever idiots

Notorious · 29-09-2019 1:23pm

I've just reached Eden 6 and I'm level 21. Leveling seems a lot slower than in previous games. I'm trying to do most of the side quests, so I'm never under leveled. Have to say that a lot of the game seems to be going through the motions. I'm not getting as much enjoyment out of BL3 compared to BL2, but that could also be down to playing the Operative class.

Some of the NPCs are a right pain in the arse. The twins could have been great enemies, but they're terribly boring. The videos they release are sickeningly annoying. I won't start on the siren in training.

Dcully · 29-09-2019 4:46pm

I suggest ignoring the side missions until after completing the main story.
When you do go back and do them they will scale with your level.

wotzgoingon · 29-09-2019 4:56pm

Dcully wrote: »

I suggest ignoring the side missions until after completing the main story.

Is there a reason for that?

29-09-2019 5:05pm

gimli2112 wrote: »

one of the guys i'm playing with has 12 characters. one to store ars, one for smgs, one for shotties......
we're idiots but we're clever idiots

I'm doing the same and only today do I see how to rename the characters at the new-u station

Dcully · 29-09-2019 6:41pm

wotzgoingon wrote: »

Is there a reason for that?

Once you complete campaign you unlock mayhem mode and TVHM.
Then you can get stuck into all the side quests on whatever mayhem mode you can which will give you increased xp gain and better loot.
Then once you hit lvl 50 you will unlock guardian ranks.

29-09-2019 8:21pm

I've been reloading when I get the reflect modifier in mayhem mode. I didn't really think about it until I was farming killavolt.

Transformer shield + shock weapons + reflect = a good thing for me :pac:

TitianGerm · 29-09-2019 8:52pm

Thanks to Dcully for dropping me lots of cash and a good few items earlier. Wasn't quite sure what all the explosions were when I was fighting a mini boss and how everything was dying so quick. Then I turned around and saw him in all his glory :pac:

nix · 29-09-2019 9:00pm

you guys playing on PC or console?

Penn · 29-09-2019 9:06pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I've been reloading when I get the reflect modifier in mayhem mode. I didn't really think about it until I was farming killavolt.

Transformer shield + shock weapons + reflect = a good thing for me :pac:

Yeah that modifier is just regoddamndiculous. Forgot about it when farming Graveward and destroyed myself with a vladof assault rifle

Also, have occasionally had the modifiers where assault rifles and snipers get +50% and pistols, smgs and shotguns get -50%, and another one with the exact opposite, I guess meaning they balance each other out

TitianGerm · 29-09-2019 9:26pm

nix wrote: »

you guys playing on PC or console?

I'm on PC but only level 14. My GT is TitianGerm on Epic if you want to add me.

29-09-2019 11:29pm

Anyone solved the rubix cube? Wouldn't have given it a second thought only a random I was playing with mentioned it as we passed it. Got nothing of worth from it in normal mode mayhem 3.

You can only do this once per character, I switched to TVHM Mayhem 3 and couldn't open it

gimli2112 · 30-09-2019 6:00am

just got a couple of legendaries, nothing spectacular

30-09-2019 6:27am

gimli2112 wrote: »

just got a couple of legendaries, nothing spectacular

I've used those golden keys (about 4 of them)

Nothing but purple pistols

Raging

gimli2112 · 30-09-2019 7:50am

I don't have any keys, didn't get the one promised for pre-ordering but I always seemed to get purples in the earlier game. Pretty handy when you are levelling up a new character and get stuck somewhere but that's about it I found.

the boss run on Athena is pretty good at the end of the level (captain truant?)

mayhem three he drops 1-3 legendries, a red chest and two other chests in that room and then two weapon chests at the entrance to the boss battle all give legendries and high level gear. I was getting up to 5 a run and it only takes a couple of minutes (I did have a 12.3% luck relic)

I think the modifiers influence the xp. I dropped in at one stage with atrocious modifiers but even regular adds were giving +2K xp. Had a mission to do which I did when I noticed it and went up several guardian ranks

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