R.I.P Stephen Hawking

garbo speaks · 14-03-2018 2:38pm

Funny to see so many posters on here, who are nothing more than pen-pushers in menial jobs, taking the intellectual highground on Hawkings work beacause they saw a 45 minute BBC documentary on him three years ago.

14-03-2018 2:42pm

garbo speaks wrote: »

Funny to see so many posters on here, who are nothing more than pen-pushers in menial jobs, taking the intellectual highground on Hawkings work beacause they saw a 45 minute BBC documentary on him three years ago.

AAhh..this is the internet..watching hawking 10 years ago means I am amply qualified to comment..

weldoninhio · 14-03-2018 3:10pm

Ger Roe wrote: »

For anyone having difficulty understanding his theories, he sang a song in 2014 that explained them in simpler terms...

It was a cover of the Monty Python 'Galaxy Song' and Hawking released it as a single in 2015 to mark International Record Store Day.

I prefer the song he did with Benny Benassi. Thought he might be in the video too, but its just a load of moths with power tools.

Dakota Dan · 14-03-2018 3:16pm

macbanana wrote: »

R.i.p.Mr Hawkins.

Who's Mr Hawkins?

Donald Trump · 14-03-2018 3:16pm

Gwynplaine wrote: »

Donald Trump wrote: »

Ah poor oul' Stephen. A great man. We'll never know what he would have contributed if he had had his full health.

AH answer:
A terrible disease what with the slowly wasting away. My friend had told me that he wasn't too bad until he got his first wheelchair. The brakes weren't very good on it.....Doctors said he went downhill very quickly after that

Too soon?

Get out, you idiot.

Ah that's terrible. How can you try to say he was not a great man?

This is a very serious matter and not to be taken lightly. A great man died. As a great intellect and top physicist, I have no doubt that Stephen himself would have appreciated the gravity of the situation......

marcbrophy · 14-03-2018 3:19pm

Dakota Dan wrote: »

Who's Mr Hawkins?

Your man from The Darkness

degsie · 14-03-2018 3:27pm

LoLth wrote: »

I cannot find a time of death anywhere but in the US format today just happens to be 3.14 2018 . ..

Wait! You're not going to tell me he choked on a Pi!

Donald Trump · 14-03-2018 3:42pm

CarlosHarpic wrote: »

Even though almost every cosmologist today accepts that Black Holes don't exist. An outdated concept rooted in Christian Big Bang Theory kept going by Hawking and his groupies.

You'll have to do better that Wiki me me oul China.

I think you're mixing up cosmologists with cosmetologists

Ave Sodalis · 14-03-2018 3:54pm

So the 14th of March is Einstein's birthday, Pi Day and now Hawking's death... pretty interesting date

garbo speaks · 14-03-2018 3:59pm

Ave Sodalis wrote: »

So the 14th of March is Einstein's birthday, Pi Day and now Hawking's death... pretty interesting date

So is any date.

humberklog · 14-03-2018 4:00pm

I liked Ricky Gervais line on him "Stephen Hawkings- born in Oxford but has an American accent. Bit pretentious."

retro:electro · 14-03-2018 4:07pm

Stonedpilot · 14-03-2018 4:50pm

kumate_champ07 wrote: »

nope

just making an observation, no ego involved

i wonder if it was an elaborate hoax, his physical condition gave him a lot of fame compared to his peers and many of them could be considered more intelligent, some people have been known to fake a different ethnicity in order to progress in their careers

that was a joke

He got away with a lot of old twaddle, greatest minds etc, people parrot that crap because they are TOLD HE IS. That intense repetition of this over the decades does sink in. Countless better scientists than him
Greatest mind ever?. Not even close. Anyway how would you define "Greatest mind?" so subjective.

I don't think so. Each to their own.

Good luck Stephen, you codded them all for a long time. R.I.P.

joey1111 · 14-03-2018 4:57pm

Sorry if this seems like a stupid question, I never followed the man and only know of him from articles in the news over the years and noticing his physical disability.

Did he ever come up with any solutions that have been proven and carried out and if so what are they?

I'm looking for laymans terms not an equation. thanks.

topper75 · 14-03-2018 5:18pm

Zirconia wrote: »

Just because that stuff sounds a bit wierd, it doesn't make them "bat**** crazy" , I believe he is on the right line on all of these!

But people believe a lot of things.

And then there is science. A lot of his recent proclamations wouldn't exactly be the most scientific, to put it diplomatically on the day of his demise.

In their departure from the scientific method, these ideas are indeed bat**** crazy.

kumate_champ07 · 14-03-2018 5:25pm

topper75 wrote: »

But people believe a lot of things.

And then there is science. A lot of his recent proclamations wouldn't exactly be the most scientific, to put it diplomatically on the day of his demise.

In their departure from the scientific method, these ideas are indeed bat**** crazy.

people believe a son is his own father, and his mother is a virgin, and those people eat his flesh every sunday

minikin · 14-03-2018 5:29pm

The likes of Elon Musk and other great innovators stood on Stephen Hawking's shoulders. Probably what killed him.

kumate_champ07 · 14-03-2018 5:33pm

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

I have asked you to name the peers you consider more intelligent.

Please do so.

If I had to name someone I would consider more intellectually capable I could name one - Carl Sagan.

Now i'm asking you to name these peers you consider superior intellects.

I'll accept a couple of names.

its ironic you mentioned Carl Sagan, a wise charismatic mind

but anyway im not playing that game. if it makes you feel better, just imagine this was a competition and you won the imaginary prize

kumate_champ07 · 14-03-2018 5:45pm

extra gravy wrote: »

How the fcuk would you know who's more intelligent than him or what it even means to be more intelligent than him? Are you a cosmologist with a similar IQ and understanding of theoretical physics? Don't embarrass yourself any further.

why so angry?

if i watch a game of football in my local park and a game of football on tv, i can see the players on tv are performing at a much higher level than the weekend warriors. is my observation false because im not equal to to the professionals?

i have a right to embarrass myself if it means i can be corrected, there is no shame in not knowing something, nobody is born with knowledge. i am open to the possibility that he was the smartest man on the planet during his lifetime, which is a difficult thing to prove.

lets take another iconic human as an example(but different logical context), Mother Theresa.
Mother Theresa was no Mother Theresa.

Fourier · 14-03-2018 6:14pm

kumate_champ07 wrote: »

Mother Theresa was no Mother Theresa.

Hawking was more intelligent than the public conception of him. He advanced General Relativity and Quantum Field Theory by decades. I can demonstrate this if you wish.

Sofiztikated · 14-03-2018 6:18pm

Fourier wrote: »

Hawking was more intelligent than the public conception of him. He advanced General Relativity and Quantum Field Theory by decades. I can demonstrate this if you wish.

/r/iamverysmart

Fourier · 14-03-2018 6:18pm

Stonedpilot wrote: »

people parrot that crap because they are TOLD HE IS. That intense repetition of this over the decades does sink in. Countless better scientists than him
Greatest mind ever?. Not even close.

And is parroting the reverse because it's "against the mainstream" any better?

His work is not twaddle.

Singularity theorems
Black Hole Thermodynamics
Information Problem
Gravitational Statistical Mechanics

All of these have had a major effect on theoretical physics.

pumpkin4life · 14-03-2018 6:19pm

Sofiztikated wrote: »

/r/iamverysmart

Even smarter from a user named Fourier.

/iamsosmrt

Fourier · 14-03-2018 6:21pm

Sofiztikated wrote: »

/r/iamverysmart

:rolleyes:
Yes everybody who knows a subject is boasting, very clever.

I mean I can talk him through what he did. But then sharing knowledge is probably boasting too.

I wonder what is acceptable to know, send me the list.

Sofiztikated · 14-03-2018 6:22pm

garbo speaks wrote: »

So is any date.

The 11th April 1954 is only interesting because nothing of interest happened on that day.

Fourier · 14-03-2018 6:23pm

pumpkin4life wrote: »

Even smarter from a user named Fourier.

/iamsosmrt

Wow seriously, can people not just know a subject. What's "smart" about it? Think about it, there have to be some people who know a subject. Does this mean they're automatically show offs?

kumate_champ07 · 14-03-2018 6:25pm

Fourier wrote: »

Hawking was more intelligent than the public conception of him. He advanced General Relativity and Quantum Field Theory by decades. I can demonstrate this if you wish.

no need, i dont dispute that

pumpkin4life · 14-03-2018 6:28pm

Fourier wrote: »

Wow seriously, can people not just know a subject. What's "smart" about it? Think about it, there have to be some people who a subject. Does this mean they're automatically show offs?

Take it easy, I'm taking the piss.

I've also a similar background to you (I'm guessing) as do a few others on here, but lets be honest, some of this shìte can be really really boring.

eagle eye · 14-03-2018 6:30pm

Very sad to hear this, a brilliant man. As has been said previously he was a inspiration to all. He didn't just walk, he ran through his war with disability and shone brightly for all to see. He educated us in many, many ways and lived for just over three quarters of a century which is incredible for someone with his disabilities, but he just kept beating expectations.

RIP Stephen.

Sofiztikated · 14-03-2018 6:31pm

Fourier wrote: »

:rolleyes:
Yes everybody who knows a subject is boasting, very clever.

I mean I can talk him through what he did. But then sharing knowledge is probably boasting too.

I wonder what is acceptable to know, send me the list.

Ah, ****ing relax. I popped in to read the thread, yours was the first post I saw, and reading it from a cold open, without context, it came across that way.

RIP Stephen, good ole brain on ye, thanks for using it.

irishfeen · 14-03-2018 6:41pm

"Hello. My name is Stephen Hawking. Physicist, cosmologist and something of a dreamer. Although I cannot move and I have to speak through a computer, in my mind I am free"

RIP ya legend

Stonedpilot · 14-03-2018 6:46pm

kumate_champ07 wrote: »

people believe a son is his own father, and his mother is a virgin, and those people eat his flesh every sunday

I'm always surprised with people who want to poo poo Christianity literally know nothing about it.

A. In Christianity God is a trinity, father son and spirit. The 'son' of God Christ is God in the flesh. But this flesh(son) is not his own father,
Bible is clear on this.
Think of it like 3 flames, Father son and Holy Spirit, put the flames together, you get one.

B. No Christian churches symbolically eat's Christs flesh on Sundays. You are thinking of Roman Catholicism. Different thing.

Frankly I'm amazed people on this forum often don't know the difference between Christianity and Roman Catholicism.

kumate_champ07 · 14-03-2018 6:54pm

Stonedpilot wrote: »

I'm always surprised with people who want to poo poo Christianity.

but im not, its not directed at you, youre Christian and feel your beliefs are threatened by my words?

it was directed at peoples lack of logical thinking, do you dispute my claim of what some people believe? you shifted the goal posts by adding various sects, but i did not even mention Catholicism or Christianity, just what some people believe

Uranium · 14-03-2018 7:00pm

Not usaully affected by celbrity deaths but quite shocked by Stephen`s death

Hammer89 · 14-03-2018 7:03pm

This sh*t's got to be Stephen-f*cking Hawkings.....Hawkins.....which is it?

If you know then you know.

14-03-2018 7:20pm

Fourier wrote: »

:rolleyes:
Yes everybody who knows a subject is boasting, very clever.

I mean I can talk him through what he did. But then sharing knowledge is probably boasting too.

I wonder what is acceptable to know, send me the list.

Don't mind that nonsense. I found your posts on the 'I Bet You Didn't Know That' thread very interesting. Some people like learning new things, others can't be bothered. It's their problem.

muckbrien · 14-03-2018 7:31pm

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

is theoretical physics dumbing down?

I remember a picture from 1930 of a conference with Einstein, Schrodinger, Heisenberg and many more. None to rival them now.

RIP mr Hawkings

I read a good bit about the amazing Dirac

I'm guessing he wasn't near as smart as Dirac or made a comparable contribution to physics,not that I'm a physicist.

Franz Von Peppercorn · 14-03-2018 7:44pm

Stonedpilot wrote: »

He got away with a lot of old twaddle, greatest minds etc, people parrot that crap because they are TOLD HE IS. That intense repetition of this over the decades does sink in. Countless better scientists than him
Greatest mind ever?. Not even close. Anyway how would you define "Greatest mind?" so subjective.

I don't think so. Each to their own.

Good luck Stephen, you codded them all for a long time. R.I.P.

He fooled all the great physicists but not you, though.

Franz Von Peppercorn · 14-03-2018 7:49pm

muckbrien wrote: »

I read a good bit about the amazing Dirac

I'm guessing he wasn't near as smart as Dirac or made a comparable contribution to physics,not that I'm a physicist.

Fourier, who seems to know his stuff, rates hawkings very highly. Enough for me.

Jamiekelly · 14-03-2018 8:38pm

Stonedpilot wrote: »

I'm always surprised with people who want to poo poo Christianity literally know nothing about it.

A. In Christianity God is a trinity, father son and spirit. The 'son' of God Christ is God in the flesh. But this flesh(son) is not his own father,
Bible is clear on this.
Think of it like 3 flames, Father son and Holy Spirit, put the flames together, you get one.

B. No Christian churches symbolically eat's Christs flesh on Sundays. You are thinking of Roman Catholicism. Different thing.

Frankly I'm amazed people on this forum often don't know the difference between Christianity and Roman Catholicism.

No one cares.

Donald Trump · 14-03-2018 9:22pm

joey1111 wrote: »

Sorry if this seems like a stupid question, I never followed the man and only know of him from articles in the news over the years and noticing his physical disability.

Did he ever come up with any solutions that have been proven and carried out and if so what are they?

I'm looking for laymans terms not an equation. thanks.

The oul physics is rusty but from what I remember he proposed Hawking radiation as an explanation of why particles were seemingly able to escape an inescapable black hole.

Basically energy would be converted into a particle-antiparticle pair out of empty space close to the Schwartzschild radius (energy and matter being equivalent and the particle-antiparticle cancelling out each other to preserve the various symmetries and conservation numbers). If one got sucked across the event horizon and the other escaped, it would appear that particles were coming out of the Black hole - which as you all know, is impossible. This mechanism would allow Black holes to essentially appear to "evaporate"

Oh, and I think he invented the TV show robot wars

barrier86 · 14-03-2018 9:26pm

the greatest mind of my generation.

an inspiration to millions, if not billions

RIP

Donald Trump · 14-03-2018 9:28pm

muckbrien wrote: »

I read a good bit about the amazing Dirac

I'm guessing he wasn't near as smart as Dirac or made a comparable contribution to physics,not that I'm a physicist.

I wouldn't think he'd be in the same category as Dirac

Someone else asked about more contemporary physicists who were "better". I'd have to go with someone like Feynman as being far ahead of Hawkings.

Not to say he wasn't talented, but he wasn't quite on the same level as those fellas. Although he was spasitcated. When you allow for that he probably outperformed all the above. But on an absolute scale, not really.

Donald Trump · 14-03-2018 9:31pm

kumate_champ07 wrote: »

people believe a son is his own father, and his mother is a virgin, and those people eat his flesh every sunday

But I'm my own grandpa. What say you about that Kimosabe?

Cork Boy 53 · 14-03-2018 11:17pm

Documentary on Hawking on Channel 4 now.

Yester · 15-03-2018 1:29am

I've had "a brief history of time" of time for ages but I just picked it off the shelf and started reading it yesterday. Then I heard he had died. Mad. I've always admired him for his sense of humour. I do have sense of wonder so I hope I will gain from reading his book (though I hear it is not an easy read). R.I.P. feels wrong somehow, there can be no peace when so many questions are unanswered.

"My goal is simple. It is a complete understanding of the universe, why it is as it is and why it exists at all."

jaxxx · 15-03-2018 1:36am

One of the most remarkable human beings in the entire history of our race. His work and legacy alone was amazing, but considering that most of that was done despite his condition... It's nothing short of superhuman. The world seems a little less bright without him. RIP Stephen.

Everything he achieved, as a fully able bodied person it makes me feel extremely guilty and ashamed. I've done a lot less with my life than I had the potential to actually do. And yet despite his motor neurone disease, look at his contribution to the world. Again, superhuman.

Junkyard Tom · 15-03-2018 1:36am

Fourier wrote: »

I can demonstrate this if you wish.

Through the medium of interpretive dance?

dublinman1990 · 15-03-2018 2:37am

People with mega minds & intelligence make themselves complete legends. Stephen Hawking was one of those people who gave us theories that were both fascinating & enduring to learn about the purpose of relativity & the making our own cosmos. R.I.P. Stephen.

Grid. · 15-03-2018 2:39am

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

Documentary on Hawking on Channel 4 now.

Watched that earlier.....what an incredible human being he was, R.I.P Stephen.

R.I.P Stephen Hawking

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